It’s “cruel” to tell fat women they’re beautiful, MGTOWs agree

Thanks, Threp.

I thought closing the window then re-opening a WHTM window a few minutes later would put my comment back on the bottom same as a refresh. I guess not. I’ll watch for that in the future.

Sorry for the double-post everyone.

Mish! One of the two people I miss from twitter 🙂

Being well?

@Crip Dyke

No worries. It’s taking some getting used to for me, this new layout. 🙂

Forgot to ask – you had any lingering effects from your dusting with dud CS a month or so back? We used to up our intake of the various B vits to avoid the skin lurgy and the corneal fogging that shit can give you.

Ruth Bader Ginsburg died. Fuck

There do seem to be guys outside the MRA et al axis who don’t like short hair. One of the creepier ones is conservative Christian Bill Gothard, who thinks women should wear their hair long and curly. He’s an influence on the infamous Duggar family.

You’d think these guys would be exposed to enough things online to be aware that attractive is subjective, and that some men like women they’d consider overweight. There is a such thing as a weight gain fetish.

What planet is this where older women convince young women to cut their hair and go around insisting men tell fat / obese women that they find them beautiful?

Is this a mythical la la land?

I think the problem is these men struggle to understand that women don’t owe them beauty and so they believe that saying a woman has more value than her looks is the same as saying they cannot have individual preferences for dating.

@Mish

I’m … not sure? Stepped out for a couple months initially because I had a small job come up that had me outcountry for a couple of weeks (unavoidable, was literally the only one they could call on), then were dealing with a wee bit of depression and … I’ve not really missed it, other than you and a couple other people. Some of the writing community too, but I don’t miss the drama!

[F]eminists are being cruel to obese women by lying to them that they look wonderful when they don’t.

So really, you’re being kind, unlike feminists. You’d say a lot more about feminists, but you’re on the nonhateful subreddit.

@ Surplus

Anyone else think the timing of this is extremely suspicious?

Not really. She had pancreatic cancer and was on chemo. Metastatic pancreatic cancer is a cancer you don’t come back from, I was just hoping she would make it a few more weeks. Not to be grim or anything. Rest in peace, RGB.

@ Ooglyboggles

“I think that’s too close, I really do.”

I am not fooled, but they should all be saying this, since February was too close 4 years ago. But I never did expect honor from Republicans in this election. Used to in the past, a little tiny bit, but not a shred now.

In addition, there’s a TON of content on the internet that peddle the idea that beauty is objective and that everyone should find X “super hot”.

Re: fatness

I have so many opinions on how white culture’s skinniness fetish is bullshit, but the thing that really got to me recently is one of the more subtle ways it causes harm:

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2020/aug/26/how-to-take-the-perfect-breath-why-learning-to-breathe-properly-could-change-your-life

It is hardly surprising, she says: “Modern life stops us breathing well.” Stress is associated with small, quick breaths which, in turn, makes us feel even more frazzled. Hartley has observed that people who live in cities, with the added problem of pollution, unconsciously take in shallower breaths. And even tight-fitting clothes, or snug bras, can affect your breathing, while “this mad desire to be skinny”, she says, has meant people holding their stomachs in – she says she has seen people reluctant to take a full breath because it gives a rounded-tummy shape.

Yes seriously. It’s that pervasive.

@Alan Robertshaw
Thank you for joining with us in this time of need.

I first found out about RBG’s death when I received a call from a Jewish friend about 5 minutes after the story broke. I had just finished a virtual Erev Rosh Hashanah event and was saddened to hear of her passing. She fit perfectly the definition of the Tzadik and was an inspiration to many.

@Cyborgette

while “this mad desire to be skinny”, she says, has meant people holding their stomachs in – she says she has seen people reluctant to take a full breath because it gives a rounded-tummy shape.

Yes. I confess that I usually don’t breathe as well as I could because of this socialized behavior. A friend of mine is a high school band director and she says that one of the things she has to teach every year to her students is how to take full breaths properly.

@Cyborgette

It was one of the things that made meditation hard for me pre transition, because of the way body image stuff stacked with dysphoria. Used to be I looked like I had a huge masculine potbelly whenever I did diaphragmatic breathing

Same here. I’m definitely on the skinny side but my dysphoria really does get worse if I inflate my abdomen too much. I don’t meditate for other reasons as well, but it seems like dysphoria has also contributed to my breathing habits.