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How can I flirt with a woman without accidentally making her feel good about herself, alpha male wannabe wonders

Show some sympathy for the poor alpha male trainee confused about how to flirt with women without inadvertently making them feel good about themselves by telling them they look pretty or something.

How do you flirt without validating,” someone called Lanaskillet wonders in a post on the Ask the Red Pill subreddit. He knows the general Red Pill stance is “to avoid validating and kissing up to women but,” he asks,

how do you even show interest to begin with. Talking to them without any sort of compliment will just have her thinking of you as just a man without a penis right? Push/pull to me seems like the only answer but even then it’s some sort of validation for them since you still give them a feel good statement. I’m trying to comprehend this part of the red pill

The trick, I imagine, is to figure out how to compliment a woman without making her feel good, about herself or about anything, really.

You’re beautiful — like the precious lives so cruelly snuffed out on 9/11.

If you were a fish, I bet you’d be a cod.

Your head shape appears to be within normal parameters.

You have a sister? Let me guess: she’s the pretty one?

Your makeup really makes your eyes pop … I mean, bulge.

You look better than you smell.

You’re almost as pretty as my mother.

You remind me a lot of this bug I once saw.

Are you a national park? Because you look like you’re open for drilling.

Are those your actual toes?

Use any of these suggestions and you’ll be in like Flynn.

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Naglfar
Naglfar
4 years ago

So sorry to go O/T again, but I just have to because Jacob Wohl is at it again.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/jacob-wohl-staged-fake-fbi-raid-on-business-partner-actor-hired-for-production-says

Victorious Parasol
Victorious Parasol
4 years ago

@Alan, @Naglfar

This may interest you. An ancestor of mine was an explorer, and he kept a diary of his travels.

16th March. We kept up the Staunton to William Englishs. He lives on a small Branch, and was not much hurt by the Fresh. He has a mill, which is the furtherest back except one lately built by the Sect of People who call themselves of the Brotherhood of Euphrates, and are commonly called the Duncards, who are the upper Inhabitants of the New River, which is about 400 yards wide at this place. They live on the west side, and we were obliged to swim our horses over.9 The Duncards are an odd set of people who make it a matter of Religion not to Shave their Beards, ly on beds, or eat flesh, though at the present, in the last, they transgress, being constrained to it, they say, by the want of a sufficiency of Grain and Roots, they have not long been seated here. I doubt the plenty and deliciousness of the Venison and Turkeys has contributed not a little to this. The unmarried have no Property but live on a common Stock. They don’t baptize either Young or Old, they keep their Sabbath on Saturday, and hold that all men shall be happy hereafter, but first must pass through punishment according to their Sins. They are very hospitable.

Proof that the States have always had odd little sects running around.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
4 years ago

@ Vicky P

That is interesting; thank you!

not to Shave their Beards, ly on beds, or eat flesh

That’s basically me at any music festival.

What does “not much hurt by the Fresh” mean do you know?

Victorious Parasol
Victorious Parasol
4 years ago

@Alan

What does “not much hurt by the Fresh” mean do you know?

I’m afraid I’m not sure. A lot of his journal for this trip involved describing rivers and other waterways, so I’ve supposed that Great-Great-Great-etc.-Grandfather was describing a recent flood or a vigorous river.

Naglfar
Naglfar
4 years ago

@VP
Do you know if this is the same group he was referring to? If so, it appears they still exist.

Dalillama
4 years ago

@Alan
The fresh in this context would be a recent flood, probably caused by smowmelt.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
4 years ago

@ Vicky P

Hmm, got me thinking of possibilities.

The way it’s written may suggest somehow it’s connected with living on the river branch.

At first I thought maybe fresh water? But that doesn’t really seem to make much sense in context.

We sometimes use fresh here to mean cold; as in “Brrr, it’s a bit fresh out there today.” Wonder if that’s it?

ETA: Ah cheers Dali. That makes much more sense.

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Victorious Parasol
Victorious Parasol
4 years ago

@Naglfar

Yep, I believe that’s the same group!

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
4 years ago

@ naglfar

Dunkard Brethren

I initially read that as drunkard brethren and wondered where I signed up.

Full Metal Ox
4 years ago

@Naglfar:

<I>O/T: Looks like ICE has been doing hysterectomies on large numbers of women whom they have detained. Unsurprising, but horrible nevertheless.</I>

And with abundant precedent:

http://mississippiappendectomy.wordpress.com/about/

http://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2016/03/07/469478098/the-supreme-court-ruling-that-led-to-70-000-forced-sterilizations

Bookworm in hijab
Bookworm in hijab
4 years ago

Wow, I go to work for a few hours and come back to so many interesting comments! This site is great. ?

Bookworm in hijab
Bookworm in hijab
4 years ago

@ Alan,

That can be quite a hot topic in the Ummah!

…to put it mildly? ?

Diego
Diego
4 years ago

“O/T: Looks like ICE has been doing hysterectomies on large numbers of women whom they have detained. Unsurprising, but horrible nevertheless.”

Not sure how many times we have to say this is genocide and these are concentration camps before the liberals listen.

Ohlmann
Ohlmann
4 years ago

That ICE stuff is so vile,

An amusing case of french etymology is that waste bins are called “poubelle”, from the name of the guy who imposed their use in Paris. As a patronym it lost a lot of popularity since then.

Technically, it’s also a case of something not named for its inventor.

opposablethumbs
opposablethumbs
4 years ago

Thanks, Jenora. Yeah, it does sound reasonable – but we humans do love our just-so stories, so … guess I’ll file it under “dunno” (an excessively large category for me) until or unless somebody further enlightens 🙂

Big Titty Demon
Big Titty Demon
4 years ago

@ Penny Psmith

Huh, I totally had Sylvester Graham’s history mixed up with Kellogg’s history. I’m indebted to you for making me fact-check your report, which is 100% correct. I can’t even imagine a vegetarian causing a riot of butchers and bakers today, so… progress?

Ohlmann
Ohlmann
4 years ago

@opposablethumb : as a french speaker, I never ever have heard of “parler comme un basque espagnol”.

The etymology might be true (I have been raised quite further east than the Pays Basque), but it do reek of anti-basque racism.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
4 years ago

@ big titty demon

I can’t even imagine a vegetarian causing a riot of butchers and bakers today

Sainsburys set up a meat-free butchers in Shoreditch (of course)

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And that did provoke this!

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Admittedly it’s not exactly the Storming of the Bastille.

Naglfar
Naglfar
4 years ago

@Alan Robertshaw
Did the meat free butcher sell things like imitation meats and substitutes? If so, that sounds rather useful, as it’s hard to find those sometimes.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
4 years ago

@ naglfar

Basically it’s all the same stuff they sell in the regular Sainsbury’s but put out on trays rather than in packets.

That’s Shoreditch for you.

(I shouldn’t dig; I love the place)

Ohlmann
Ohlmann
4 years ago

It alway amaze me how much effort some people are able to do just because someone else do something not destined for them.

A bunch of vegan and vegetarian are annoying, but I much prefer doing some efforts to, you know, just be less annoying than them, than trying to one up and make myself even more of a nuisance than them.

Naglfar
Naglfar
4 years ago

@Ohlmann

It alway amaze me how much effort some people are able to do just because someone else do something not destined for them.

At this point, it seems the main philosophy of many conservatives is to be obnoxious because someone is doing something different, i.e. “owning the libs.” Instead of just not getting an abortion or not entering into a gay marriage, conservatives have to be assholes to people for those things.

For a more on-topic example, I saw a conservative meme the other day saying that they will eat twice as much meat to make up for vegans. Or, as someone who doesn’t eat meat and is Jewish, I’ve had antisemites tell me they will eat extra pork to make up for me not eating it. Truth be told, I really don’t care what they eat, but I think they were expecting a different reaction. Pigs aren’t kosher, but the reason for that is because the meat spoils in a Mediterranean climate, not because they are viewed as holy or special. Although I do think potbellied pigs are cute.
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Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
4 years ago

@ olhmann

It alway amaze me how much effort some people are able to do just because someone else do something not destined for them

There’s a guy called sv3rige who turns up at vegan things and eats raw squirrels at us.

https://metro.co.uk/2019/04/13/man-who-ate-raw-pigs-head-at-vegan-festival-stabbed-four-classmates-at-school-9184229/

@ Varalys is the expert on him though, so I’ll let her fill in the details if she’s about.

He does have some rather unpleasant views though; he’s an unapologetic rape proponent for a start.

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Ohlmann
Ohlmann
4 years ago

Someone who eat raw squirrels to spite people is already pretty unpleasant. I am not against squirrel-eating in general, but eating them raw in front of an audience seem much more motivated by spite than by taste.

I mean, still small potatoes compared to being a rape apologist. But I don’t expect that kind of individual to be pleasant TBH.

Threp (formerly Shadowplay)

There’s a guy called sv3ige who turns up at vegan things and eats raw squirrels at us

Oh, him. He’s an embarrassment to humanity. Not edgy or particularly irritating, just embarrassing. I can just see our far distant ancestors slapping him upside the head and saying “We tamed fire for a reason!”