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Men’s Rights activist: Ron Jeremy’s rape charges are part of a plot by feminists angry that “he isn’t the gorgeous stud they demand”

By David Futrelle

On Monday, porn star Ron Jeremy was hit with 20 new charges of rape or sexual assault involving 12 women and a teenage girl, on top of the charges he already faced for allegedly raping or assaulting four women.

As plausible as these charges against a man infamous for regularly groping women in public may look to you and me, the charges have been met with everything from skepticism to outright derision by Men’s Rights activists, who rarely run across rape allegations they aren’t ready to dismiss as false.

“It seems like a setup,” wrote one Reddit MRA in response to the original charges announced some two months ago.

[T]he man use to film three to four movies a day, no one would invite a man known as “The Ass Master” over to their house to hang out one on one without expecting sex.

“[H]e works in porn so he will obviously would have boinked some women,” added another Reddit MRA.

It’s like suing someone for groping you because he had to do CPR on you, and accidentally touched you on your breasts.

Well, no, it’s not like that at all.

But the strangest theory about the accusations I’ve run across in the Men’s Rights subreddit came from a fellow called omegaphallic, one of Jeremy’s most vociferous defenders. According to him, the accusations are part of a plot hatched by evil feminists who hate Jeremy because he’s not hot enough for their tastes.

“The Feminists have HATED Ron Jeremy for decades,” omegaphallic declared.

[A]nd the feminists in porn having been gunning for him, they wanted him out of the industry because he isn’t the gorgeous stud they demand out of Male pornstars,

Wait, what? I was not aware that the world’s feminists had a position on the minimum gorgeousness of male porn performers.

[H]e fuck above his Station, has gorgeous woman asking to have their boobs autographed, and yet he looks like your savage overweight working class Joe. So I’m not surprised about these BS accusations against him. They won’t rest until he is ruined.

Meanwhile, over on the Incels.co forums, one commenter has a similar theory.

“Ron Jeremy’s only crime is that he is not a Chad,” a regular commenter called Metabuxx wrote in a post today.

Ron Jeremy isn’t on trial for being a rapist. He’s on trial for having the audacity to fuck many women despite being a subhuman.

MRAs and incels, two sides of the same shitty coin.

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Lumipuna
Lumipuna
4 years ago

Alan and Naglfar – I’ll have to insist on re-introducing answering machines, though. I’m old enough to remember obscene phone calls.

IIRC, Pratchett & Gaiman’s Good Omens had this scene where some demon characters were magically trapped inside an “ansaphone”. I read it in original English, and that word was new to me. Incidentally, in Finnish, “ansa” means trap.

Naglfar
Naglfar
4 years ago

@Threp
Cross the streams, though, and nothing good results. Every porn game I’ve seen or heard about has managed to be both not titillating and a crappy game that isn’t fun to play.

Threp (formerly Shadowplay)
Threp (formerly Shadowplay)
4 years ago

I’m old enough to remember when Custer’s Revenge came out – we had an Atari (who’s sole purpose in life was running a bootleg copy of Elite, far as I recall. Wife did the piloting, I did the trading. She were more the gamer back then.)

Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie
Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie
4 years ago

High speed networking and the entire rise of streaming TV and movies? That’s ALL on porn. ?

I imagine it would be completely INAPPROPRIATE to discuss Virtual Reality…. 🙂 🙂 🙂

And math geeks who write algorithms probably all work for market research and social media (and organized crime!)

Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie
Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie
4 years ago

WAAYYYY off topic, jus’ askin….

When I was a young and impressionable commie pinko (1970s), we would occasionally muse upon the chances of “Social Security” even being there when we reached the age of AARP….

I’m to begin collecting the pre-paid gimmee in… one month….

Anyone care to muse upon the odds of it even being there when I reach that milestone?

🙁

Naglfar
Naglfar
4 years ago

@Threp

I’m old enough to remember when Custer’s Revenge came out

Was that the one where the aim of the game was to rape a Native American woman? I never played it but I’ve heard about it.

Re: VR
VR is one of those technologies that I remember seeing a lot in the news a few years ago with massive predictions of how it was the way of the future, then it promptly dropped off the radar (my radar, anyway). I know it still exists, but it never went mainstream the way it was predicted to. Same with smartwatches, I bought a cheap one expecting to be an early adopter, then it never became as common as I predicted.

Jenora Feuer
Jenora Feuer
4 years ago

@Naglfar:

I’m not sure this is true of sewage work either, many people choose jobs others may find unappealing.

I ran into someone who was a good programmer, but worked as a garbage truck driver. (Yes, there’s a Dilbert character based on that idea, but this was before that.) His attitude was that the waste collection job was more stable because society would be needing them for a while, so few people wanted the job, and they had a good union. Also, having a nice intellectually boring job gave him more time and energy for programming as a hobby.

Gaming cafes, instead of video games, should have tabletop board games and RPGs. I stumbled across something like this in Ireland a couple years ago and would like to see more like it.

Those exist. There’s a place here in Toronto called ‘Snakes and Lattes’ which has a huge board game library, and you can play while drinking your coffee. Actually, a number of ‘Escape Rooms’ also have board game libraries for the people who are waiting.

@Victorious Parasol:

I remember when it was a big deal as an American to have a pen pal from West Germany.

I can still sing the entirety of ‘TEAM/The Baseball Game’ from the musical ‘You’re a Good Man, Charlie Brown’, most of which is narrated as Charlie Brown is writing to his pen pal. Ending with: “Dear pen pal, I’m told where you live is really quite far. Would you please send directions on how I can get where you are?”

Heck, I remember when it was a big deal to send the “finger” command to a snack machine in Australia.

Granted, people stopped using the finger command so much after the Morris Worm used that as one of its ways to get around. It was, sadly, a horribly insecure setup.

This is usually where Mr. Parasol makes the joke about how Australia’s bandwidth could once be measured in the cargo hold of a 747.

I had to set up a video conference to Australia back in those days for a convention, where one of the guests was stuck in Australia. We never did get audio working at all, so all the Q&A was via chat. We did get video at about four frames per second, but audio was just not happening. (Audio may take less bandwidth than video, but with video you can throw out data if it’s too late and it doesn’t have much effect. You can’t do that with audio; it needs to be continuous and jitter-free or it’s useless.)

Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie
Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie
4 years ago

@ Jenora:

there’s a Dilbert character based on that idea,

My favorite Dilbert moment was the MENSA member talking to Dilbert; Dilbert asks, “if you’re so smart, how come you work here?” The Brain dude answers “… sadly, intelligence is not as much of an advantage as one might think….”

Naglfar
Naglfar
4 years ago

@Jenora Feuer

Also, having a nice intellectually boring job gave him more time and energy for programming as a hobby.

I imagine this is similar to why Einstein took a job in a patent office.

Jenora Feuer
Jenora Feuer
4 years ago

@Weird Eddie:
Also, ‘intelligence’ and ‘wisdom’ are very much different things.

As people have pointed out with regards to ‘Dunning-Kruger Syndrome’, sometimes more intelligent people are easier to fool, partly because they assume they’re too smart to be fooled, and partly because they are so often better at coming up with post-hoc rationalizations as to why they were really right all along.

@Naglfar:
Quite possibly. I can certainly speak from the other side of it: doing programming work as work means I don’t have the time or energy to do it as a hobby much anymore. (Which hasn’t stopped me, entirely; I ended up helping the original author debug a problem with a Pidgin plugin I was using, in part because it was running into an issue I’d run into at my day job.)

Big Titty Demon
Big Titty Demon
4 years ago

@Weird Eddie

And math geeks who write algorithms probably all work for market research and social media (and organized crime!)

No we don’t… 🙁

Moon Custafer
Moon Custafer
4 years ago

@Naglfar:

I’ve certainly always felt the most boring tasks are the ones that are not intellectually demanding enough to be interesting, but are just enough so that I can’t think about other topics while I’m doing them.

Naglfar
Naglfar
4 years ago

@Moon Custafer
I agree. When I was in school I would often have homework that was very unstimulating but required just enough concentration that I couldn’t effectively multitask.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
4 years ago

Re: Einstein

The thing to remember about his patent clerk job is that he specialised in scientific patents. You needed at least a masters degree to qualify for the role. Even today IP work is the highest paying law gig.

As for the rest. A mate of mine works on the bins. They make more money from all the old Star Wars toys and similar than they do in wages.

And when I was in London there was a street sweeper guy on the Strand. He would do loads of overtime for eight months of the year, then spend the rest of the time travelling. He’d been to some amazing places; and knew a lot about places like Manchu Pichu (sp?)

Threp (formerly Shadowplay)
Threp (formerly Shadowplay)
4 years ago

Wow. New look. My automatic dislike of change isn’t terribly happy … 😛

@Naglfar

Aye – Custer’s Revenge were you trying to navigate a pink sausage in a hat through virtually invisible arrows to rape a pink sausage near a cactus. Having said that, it were still more tasteful than Leisure Suit Larry.

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
4 years ago

Wow. New look. My automatic dislike of change isn’t terribly happy … ?

Haaaaaate the new look. Hate. LOL Functionality has been lost.

Dalillama
Dalillama
4 years ago

There’s no labour/trade/profession that’s inherently degrading. There are lots of circumstances under which people work that are inherently degrading, but that’s a separate matter.

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

Off topic, but definitely related to the topic of this blog, I tweeted about street harassment and some creep made a whole ass thread ranting about it and is now trying to find out how attractive I am and what pickup lines might.
https://twitter.com/LegOfBeeste/status/1301617915569950720?s=20

Since I don’t have tons of followers I am definitely not used to this kind of bullshit, but I’m not surprised either because I’m a woman on the internet.

Love when creeps make the entire point for you! I might have to block this dipshit eventually, but for now, it’s kind of funny.

Naglfar
Naglfar
4 years ago

Can’t say I’m a fan of this new look, but I’ll probably get used to it. Is there any way to shrink the font size of the post titles, it takes up the whole page on my computer and I have to scroll down to see any of the post. Or, is there a way to increase the number of recent comments shown? It used to show 8, now there are just 5.

Teyuna
Teyuna
4 years ago

The new look hurts my eyes ?

Big Titty Demon
Big Titty Demon
4 years ago

Re: Hating new look

Is it bad on desktops or something? I’ve only seen it on mobile but I can’t perceive what functionality has been lost, it seems like nothing special but nothing bad, maybe slightly preferable to the old one. Is it a colorblind issue that I’m not aware of?

Naglfar
Naglfar
4 years ago

@Big Titty Demon
It just seems like the sizes make it a bit harder to use. On my phone I need to do more scrolling. And because the comments background coloring is different it’s a little harder for me to read but not impossible.

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
4 years ago

@ Big Titty Demon

Is it bad on desktops or something?

It makes the desktop site look more like the mobile site. Navigating pages on a particular post is difficult. You have to scroll all the way to the bottom to get to newest comments. The fonts are HUUUUUGE and take up a ton of the page.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
4 years ago

Re: Jobs again

It’s funny how surgeons were once considered to be the lowest of the low. Even when they parted from barbers they were still looked down on by doctors because they learned by apprenticeship rather than university.

Which incidentally is why here, even though surgeons now go through med school, they’re still called ‘Mister’ not doctor when they qualify.

Makes you wonder what professions in the future will drastically change status. I can see waste management becoming a highly regarded area when all the environmental catastrophe stuff kicks in.

Threp (formerly Shadowplay)
Threp (formerly Shadowplay)
4 years ago

You also can’t jump to page one of the comments – got to scroll all the way to the bottom, hit “Older Comments,” then scroll all the way to the bottom to see if you’re on the first page of comments or not.
Not terrible for a current thread, but really annoying for archive crawling.

Beh – the nebulous “they” says change is good – keeps your mind flexible. Apparently. 😛