By David Futrelle
On Monday, porn star Ron Jeremy was hit with 20 new charges of rape or sexual assault involving 12 women and a teenage girl, on top of the charges he already faced for allegedly raping or assaulting four women.
As plausible as these charges against a man infamous for regularly groping women in public may look to you and me, the charges have been met with everything from skepticism to outright derision by Men’s Rights activists, who rarely run across rape allegations they aren’t ready to dismiss as false.
“It seems like a setup,” wrote one Reddit MRA in response to the original charges announced some two months ago.
[T]he man use to film three to four movies a day, no one would invite a man known as “The Ass Master” over to their house to hang out one on one without expecting sex.
“[H]e works in porn so he will obviously would have boinked some women,” added another Reddit MRA.
It’s like suing someone for groping you because he had to do CPR on you, and accidentally touched you on your breasts.
Well, no, it’s not like that at all.
But the strangest theory about the accusations I’ve run across in the Men’s Rights subreddit came from a fellow called omegaphallic, one of Jeremy’s most vociferous defenders. According to him, the accusations are part of a plot hatched by evil feminists who hate Jeremy because he’s not hot enough for their tastes.
“The Feminists have HATED Ron Jeremy for decades,” omegaphallic declared.
[A]nd the feminists in porn having been gunning for him, they wanted him out of the industry because he isn’t the gorgeous stud they demand out of Male pornstars,
Wait, what? I was not aware that the world’s feminists had a position on the minimum gorgeousness of male porn performers.
[H]e fuck above his Station, has gorgeous woman asking to have their boobs autographed, and yet he looks like your savage overweight working class Joe. So I’m not surprised about these BS accusations against him. They won’t rest until he is ruined.
Meanwhile, over on the Incels.co forums, one commenter has a similar theory.
“Ron Jeremy’s only crime is that he is not a Chad,” a regular commenter called Metabuxx wrote in a post today.
Ron Jeremy isn’t on trial for being a rapist. He’s on trial for having the audacity to fuck many women despite being a subhuman.
MRAs and incels, two sides of the same shitty coin.
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It’s not. Unpleasant =/= degrading.
@LindsayIrene:
If only the real-world incels would learn that too. Then we might never hear from them again.
It’s doing it again! My comment was right here, just below Threp’s at the top of page 2, but now it’s gone!
Surplus, how long will it take before you accept that the site is just unreliable sometimes, and nobody in the comment section is your tech support?
@Surplus
This sort of thing has been happening to pretty much everyone, at random intervals, for years. Seems like it shouldn’t really be a surprise now. Unless you felt like rolling up your sleeves and getting your hands dirty in some wordpress code, it’ll probably won’t get better any time soon.
It’s still there. I see it just fine.
Shit’s been getting really odd recently with the comments – I get the cookies acceptance button flash up then disappear every time I refresh. That ain’t supposed to happen.
Comments for me can take anything from instantly to 15 minutes to show up. Whatever the database problem is, it’s getting worse and I hope David can fix it soon.
This place is too valuable a resource (and community) – I mean, over half a million comments, I think he said? – to be lost to a corrupted database.
I still find it amazing that I can sit at my desk, click a button, and then that message is visible to people all round the world; regardless of how long it takes to show. To someone who grew up putting things in letter boxes this might as well be magic.
I get particularly mind blown when I’m sat in the middle of nowhere with a friend. They take a picture and send it to me. Not just the fact that even in some desolate old mining valley we’re still connected with the world; but that that picture may have gone on a route that takes it half way round the world or via space; just to appear instantly three feet away.
(This all gets me thinking about the Fermi paradox )
@Alan
I remember when it was a big deal as an American to have a pen pal from West Germany. The whole thing was brokered through a service introduced to our German class by our teacher.
Heck, I remember when it was a big deal to send the “finger” command to a snack machine in Australia. This is usually where Mr. Parasol makes the joke about how Australia’s bandwidth could once be measured in the cargo hold of a 747.
@Surplus
Unfortunately for them, it looks like less than 1% of penis-havers can do it. (Probably TMI) I’ve tried and my back isn’t flexible enough.
It would also work if incels had sex with each other, but even they can’t tolerate each other’s horrid personalities long enough to do that.
@Alan Robertshaw
What I find funny is how we have all this technology yet so much of what we do with it is trivial. We built the Internet, and half of it seems to be cat pictures.*
*I don’t actually know what percent of the Internet is cat pictures, probably not half. I do recall hearing the statistic that 30% of it is porn, though.
This xkcd comic kind of shows what I mean:
(Although it’s talking about local services rather than the Internet, the point still applies)
@ Vicky P
Oh wow, pen pals!
Do you remember a kids’ show called The Big Blue Marble?
That always had the thing at the end about setting you up with a pen pal across the world. I guess now we’re all pen pals!
@ naglfar
I seem to recall a statistic that the bulk of internet traffic was just things like financial information and spreadsheets. I guess it depends on how you measure it. There’s probably more bandwidth in a funny cat video than each day’s total LIBOR swaps.
@Alan Robertshaw
Here’s the source I’m drawing the 30% figure from, it doesn’t have any word on what percent is financial data but I’d imagine that’s significant. A lot of financial data is probably transmitted within companies by intranet, though, so that might not be counted.
Then there’s the existence of the dark web, which is harder to find data on because of the DIY nature and lack of indexing.
There’s a good argument to be made that porn created the internet for regular people – or at least high speed internet. 🙂
@Alan Robertshaw
I can’t remember the “Closer … growing closer” lyrics without googling.
Comments occasionally taking a while to appear is not new, no, but comments appearing and then disappearing again (and then reappearing a while later) definitely is new.
@ Vicky P
Ah, just been watching the intro again. Happy memories; and such a great and necessary message. Simpler times.
So, when I’m world leader I’m going to slow things down a bit.
WHTM will be David writing a post and then mailing it to the first person on the rota. They can add any comments and then forward it to the next person. We can do a round robin like one of those family Christmas letters. We’ll just keep the letter circulating until people run out of things to comment on.
Multi-player gaming will be turn based postal games (remember them!). And I’m sure it will cut down on abuse if people have to invest in a stamp.
Rotary dial telephones. Apart from anything else, misdialed numbers were a great way of meeting new people.
If people want to tweet, they can put a card in the local shop window.
Any other ideas for the manifesto?
I propose that in the field of politics we institute Frank Herbert’s idea of a Bureau of Sabotage.
(Not really, but that idea has always tickled me.)
In the work field:
– mandatory tea/coffee breaks, of at least 30 minutes each.
– all meetings to be held in the pub, most senior manager’s treat.
– unquestioned flexitime for all workers. I’d like complete flexitime, but that’s unrealistic for some jobs without a bit of a change in work practices.
@Alan Robertshaw
Gaming cafes, instead of video games, should have tabletop board games and RPGs. I stumbled across something like this in Ireland a couple years ago and would like to see more like it.
Free tea and scones delivered to your door fresh daily.
Instead of podcasts, we have town criers who make snarky commentary on the news.
I assume then the White House windows would be plastered with incomprehensible tweets.
And since it’s audio, you don’t have to worry about someone trying to show your their dick.
Alan and Naglfar – I’ll have to insist on re-introducing answering machines, though. I’m old enough to remember obscene phone calls.
A particularly stubborn caller (who liked to call at 2am) back when I lived in Nebraska was the reason I got my first answering machine in 1982. It may not have been dick pics, but it was all about his dick anyway.
@Hambeast
Mr. Parasol and I still have an answering machine, because we have a house number plus our individual mobile numbers, because if you need to reach either or both of us, call the house number. That’s how the various parents/other relatives reach us.
Hambeast
When I was a lot younger & answered the phone at a ladies’ clothing store, an obscene phone caller informed me that his dick was hard & asked me what should he do with it?
I told him to shove it down his throat & choke to death. He never phoned back.
I had a few calls at home that I thought were a couple of teenagers. I told them in all seriousness & with great concern, that people who make obscene phone calls had psychological issues & should seek out therapeutic help. They hung up.
When they phoned again, I said “Oh, you again? Have you found a good therapist yet? They can really help you with your problem.”
They hung up, and never phoned back.
Same. Landline and answering machine are the main way people get in touch with us, since she only ever turns her mobile on when she’s out at the shops and I usually ignore mine. Don’t believe in this always available, 24/7 bullshit that seems to have become the expectation. 🙂
Got no aversion to going back to rotary telephones – they had their charm – but can we please keep the ability to block/ignore numbers?
That’s been a godsend since retirement – retiring is like catnip to phone scammers and telemarketers.
I’ve still got a landline and answering machine, though I rarely get any calls on it aside from scammers and telemarketers. At this point I usually only answer my cellphone or the landline when I recognize the number or am expecting a call.
Once in a while I’ve answered a scam on purpose to try to keep them on the line as long as possible. Usually not long, but sometimes you can get them to curse at you and admit they’re scammers.
@ Surplus:
If you will indulge me, I believe I can help. Web programming technology (and computer system programming technology) is a VERY complex field. I struggle with it, and, particularly when I see others seemingly use it without issue, I get frustrated (for “frustrated”, read “scared, angry, loud, rude, demanding…”)… all I want it to do is WORK. Sometimes it doesn’t and there’s nothing my ire will change. My work history is 45 years in manufacturing, in the shop running computer-controlled machine tools, and later in the office running engineering design software. I like to quip that for 45 years, my job description was always: “Try’n’ Find A Way ‘t’ Make It Work” (or, “Try’n’ Find A Way ‘t’ Run It Broken”)
A large part of the problem comes from the fact that no two computers (none… in the entire known universe, there are none!) are set up the same. Consequently, I can ask for Office help, and get 11 hits, all from Microsoft Office Help, all with the exact same subject line, all different, and none workable on the machine I’m on.
It is what it is, and if you have trouble, wait through an update cycle for the software (usually every 6-8 hours 🙂 ) and you will likely be presented with a new and more exciting operations problem!
@ Threp:
I’ve always felt that the driving force for hardware development is video games and pornography….
@Weird Eddie
I definitely think video cards and chipsets were more games driven – even the old ones from the late 90’s can reluctantly handle 480p (standard telly resolution) video – as was TV development.
High speed networking and the entire rise of streaming TV and movies? That’s ALL on porn. 🙂