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Men’s Rights activist: Ron Jeremy’s rape charges are part of a plot by feminists angry that “he isn’t the gorgeous stud they demand”

By David Futrelle

On Monday, porn star Ron Jeremy was hit with 20 new charges of rape or sexual assault involving 12 women and a teenage girl, on top of the charges he already faced for allegedly raping or assaulting four women.

As plausible as these charges against a man infamous for regularly groping women in public may look to you and me, the charges have been met with everything from skepticism to outright derision by Men’s Rights activists, who rarely run across rape allegations they aren’t ready to dismiss as false.

“It seems like a setup,” wrote one Reddit MRA in response to the original charges announced some two months ago.

[T]he man use to film three to four movies a day, no one would invite a man known as “The Ass Master” over to their house to hang out one on one without expecting sex.

“[H]e works in porn so he will obviously would have boinked some women,” added another Reddit MRA.

It’s like suing someone for groping you because he had to do CPR on you, and accidentally touched you on your breasts.

Well, no, it’s not like that at all.

But the strangest theory about the accusations I’ve run across in the Men’s Rights subreddit came from a fellow called omegaphallic, one of Jeremy’s most vociferous defenders. According to him, the accusations are part of a plot hatched by evil feminists who hate Jeremy because he’s not hot enough for their tastes.

“The Feminists have HATED Ron Jeremy for decades,” omegaphallic declared.

[A]nd the feminists in porn having been gunning for him, they wanted him out of the industry because he isn’t the gorgeous stud they demand out of Male pornstars,

Wait, what? I was not aware that the world’s feminists had a position on the minimum gorgeousness of male porn performers.

[H]e fuck above his Station, has gorgeous woman asking to have their boobs autographed, and yet he looks like your savage overweight working class Joe. So I’m not surprised about these BS accusations against him. They won’t rest until he is ruined.

Meanwhile, over on the Incels.co forums, one commenter has a similar theory.

“Ron Jeremy’s only crime is that he is not a Chad,” a regular commenter called Metabuxx wrote in a post today.

Ron Jeremy isn’t on trial for being a rapist. He’s on trial for having the audacity to fuck many women despite being a subhuman.

MRAs and incels, two sides of the same shitty coin.

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Naglfar
Naglfar
4 years ago

[T]he man use to film three to four movies a day, no one would invite a man known as “The Ass Master” over to their house to hang out one on one without expecting sex.

Umm…just because someone does something as a job doesn’t mean they should do it to everyone they meet. If I invited a professional boxer to my house, that wouldn’t give them license to punch me in the head.

Also, how on Earth did he film 4 movies a day? Didn’t he get tired and sore?

I was not aware that the world’s feminists had a position on the minimum gorgeousness of male porn performers.

I’ve noticed ever MRA seems to think there is only one official feminist position, with no dissent, and it’s a tell every time. Same with how conservatives think that everyone to the left of Trump thinks the same thing.

Ron Jeremy’s only crime is that he is not a Chad

He’s had sex with thousands of women. How on Earth is he not a Chad in their eyes? If he was a beta, how would that have ever happened? The gynocracy would never allow it.

I’m quite surprised none of them noticed that Ron Jeremy is Jewish (his original last name was Hyatt). I guess they can put their antisemitism aside for a bit to hate women more.
…and maybe that’s how they think he did this while not a Chad, maybe they think he had connections to some sort of international Jewish conspiracy.

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
4 years ago

It’s the other side of the argument that a (female) sex worker can’t be raped because getting fucked is her job, that raping her is more of a property crime than a violent one. This is is a male sex worker, so he can’t possibly be guilty of rape, it’s just what he does and you’re a fool if you don’t expect that.

Ron Jeremy isn’t on trial for being a rapist. He’s on trial for having the audacity to fuck many women despite being a subhuman.

If this “subhuman” can get laid a bazillion times, what’s preventing incels from getting laid once?

sunnysombrera
4 years ago

If this “subhuman” can get laid a bazillion times, what’s preventing incels from getting laid once?

Weak chins and short patellas!

But yeah, this is another flavour of “sex workers always consent” mingled with the stench of “men are always horny, what else should women expect if they’re ever alone with one.”

[A]nd the feminists in porn having been gunning for him, they wanted him out of the industry because he isn’t the gorgeous stud they demand out of Male pornstars

Porn has its problems but the hotness of male stars are the least of feminist concerns.

Ariblester
Ariblester
4 years ago

Ron Jeremy manages to have sex with many women. Incels go, “That’s unfair! His physiognomy should make that impossible!”

Ron Jeremy gets arrested on charges of rape or sexual assault. Incels go, “That’s unjust! This proves that the gynocracy is imposing looksism on men!”

Incels can’t ever be fucking happy, can they.

Saint Podkayne
Saint Podkayne
4 years ago

Aside from every other ridiculous aspect of these takes, Ron Jeremy didn’t look like what he looks like today when he started his career. They would have called him a Chad then.

Kimstu
Kimstu
4 years ago

Actually, back when I saw the 2001 biopic Porn Star: The Legend of Ron Jeremy, I thought he seemed kinda sweet and endearing (though I still wasn’t interested in watching his films or for that matter any other X movies). Was highly disappointed and disgusted to learn about his abusiveness in real life.

So no, incels, it’s not Jeremy’s ordinary-schmo middle-aged looks that are earning him so many enemies. It’s his own deliberately chosen shitty behavior.

Chris Oakley
Chris Oakley
4 years ago

O/T, but in the Massachusetts Senate Democratic primary Ed Markey just KO’d Joe Kennedy III. The Kennedy family dynasty has officially come to an end.

epitome of incomprehensibility

I was not aware that the world’s feminists had a position on the minimum gorgeousness of male porn performers.

Thanks for this sentence, David! The topic’s miserable, so I wasn’t expecting to see something that’d make me laugh.

Umm…just because someone does something as a job doesn’t mean they should do it to everyone they meet.

@Naglfar – YES, EXACTLY.

On that note, what @PoM wrote:

It’s the other side of the argument that a (female) sex worker can’t be raped because getting fucked is her job, that raping her is more of a property crime than a violent one.

Do people say this seriously?? 🙁 I knew there was a morbid joke like this, but if people actually believe it…*incoherent angry noises*

Kevin
Kevin
4 years ago

@ Naglfar

(I hold up my hand in a rather doddery way) – Five times a day was feasible longer ago than I care to remember, self service, and I don’t recommend it, you are right about tired and sore.

You are right there with the boxing analogy too.

Surplus to Requirements, Observer of the Vast Blight-Wing Enstupidation
Surplus to Requirements, Observer of the Vast Blight-Wing Enstupidation
4 years ago

It’s the other side of the argument that a (female) sex worker can’t be raped because getting fucked is her job, that raping her is more of a property crime than a violent one.

Do people say this seriously?? ? I knew there was a morbid joke like this, but if people actually believe it…*incoherent angry noises*

And the analogy doesn’t even work anyway. Consider a non-sexual job, say, a carpenter. If you hold a carpenter at gunpoint and demand they build you a house, that’s not merely a theft of services or stiffing them for the bill. It’s forced labor. It’s slavery. That’s much worse than just theft as well and is not considered “a mere property crime”.

Surplus to Requirements, Observer of the Vast Blight-Wing Enstupidation
Surplus to Requirements, Observer of the Vast Blight-Wing Enstupidation
4 years ago

Where did my last comment go? I typed it in, hit send, and it was there, then I hit “back” and “reload” and … no sign of it!

Surplus to Requirements, Observer of the Vast Blight-Wing Enstupidation
Surplus to Requirements, Observer of the Vast Blight-Wing Enstupidation
4 years ago

And now it’s simply eating them outright.

<sigh>

AJ Canberra
AJ Canberra
4 years ago

And the analogy doesn’t even work anyway. Consider a non-sexual job, say, a carpenter. If you hold a carpenter at gunpoint and demand they build you a house, that’s not merely a theft of services or stiffing them for the bill. It’s forced labor. It’s slavery. That’s much worse than just theft as well and is not considered “a mere property crime”.

Carpentry is men’s work, and therefore different to all the irrelevant jobs women do.

(Sarcasm in case anyone misses it)

numerobis
numerobis
4 years ago

Umm…just because someone does something as a job doesn’t mean they should do it to everyone they meet

Wait so you mean if you invite me over, I’m not supposed to program you?

Battering Lamb
Battering Lamb
4 years ago

Also, how on Earth did he film 4 movies a day? Didn’t he get tired and sore?

Not sure about 4 movies, but the realities of a male porn star (well, any porn star) and the need to perform are, well, disturbing. Cracked.com had an interesting bit about it, so hopefully you can laugh a bit along with the cringe: https://www.cracked.com/personal-experiences-1386-5-reasons-being-male-porn-star-less-fun-than-it-looks.html

As for the attractiveness of male porn stars, I doubt it’s much of a priority. I’ve yet to see one I feel qualifies, though YMMV.

Ohlmann
Ohlmann
4 years ago

AFAIK, most porns are made to satisfy men first, so attractiveness of the male performer isn’t that important.

Similar to how most lesbian porn is made to attract males.

Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
4 years ago

Umm…just because someone does something as a job doesn’t mean they should do it to everyone they meet

Wait so you mean if you invite me over, I’m not supposed to program you?

And I’m not supposed to edit you? Or even proofread you? Even if you invited me over? Something seems off about this.

Knitting Cat Lady
Knitting Cat Lady
4 years ago

So people actually don’t want a radiation protection evaluation of their homes when they invite me?!

So that’s why I never get invited for a second time!

Viscaria
Viscaria
4 years ago

and yet he looks like your savage overweight working class Joe.

Ah, yes, omegaphallic, you are truly a defender of the working class. As an aside, according to my quick Google search, Ron Jeremy has an estimated net worth of $6 million.

Lukas Xavier
Lukas Xavier
4 years ago

Honestly, expecting someone to perform their job function when you’ve asked them over socially is rather rude. They’re off the clock. If you want to hire them, call during business hours.

Naglfar
Naglfar
4 years ago

@Epitome

Do people say this seriously?? ? I knew there was a morbid joke like this, but if people actually believe it…

Last I checked, MRAs think this, but they believe all kinds of awful garbage.

@Numerobis, Kat

Umm…just because someone does something as a job doesn’t mean they should do it to everyone they meet

Wait so you mean if you invite me over, I’m not supposed to program you?
And I’m not supposed to edit you? Or even proofread you? Even if you invited me over? Something seems off about this.

I guess I’d better be sure not to invite any hitmen to my house.

Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
4 years ago

@Naglfar

I guess I’d better be sure not to invite any hitmen to my house.

Or brain surgeons.

Naglfar
Naglfar
4 years ago

@Kat
Or nuclear weapon developers.

Threp (formerly Shadowplay)
Threp (formerly Shadowplay)
4 years ago

Never understood how Jeremy were a porn star in the first place. The few times I’ve seen him – mostly in interviews, he’s doesn’t do my preferred sort of porn – he’s given off an uncomfortable vibe that even my limited creepdar could pick up.

Naglfar
Naglfar
4 years ago

@Threp

Never understood how Jeremy were a porn star in the first place.

I’m told the main criteria for male porn performers are “has a big dick” and “can have sex for a long time then ejaculate on cue.” If he can do those things, that’s probably how he got to be a porn star. He’s far from the only creep in porn, there are a lot of male porn stars who have assaulted their colleagues off set.

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