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By David Futrelle
It’s not a secret that incels are obsessed with underage girls and the allegedly pure joys of teenage sex. Now they seem to have collectively decided that any guy who doesn’t manage to have sex in high school has lost out on something so magical that he is essentially scarred for life; he might as well rope, as they like to put it.
In a recent post on the Incels.co forums, an incel called Personalityinkwell declares, in all caps, that
SEX IN HIGH SCHOOL IS EVERYTHING
everything else is pure cope. …
The only thing that matters is having good genes/good parents so you can be a JB [jailbait] slayer, everything else is GIGACOPE.
Other incels expand on this theme. Mylifeistrash declares that
it’s the harshest pill
that you only got one shot in life and your genetics determined it all
no amount of self-improvement cope or money maxxing will ever make up for your teenage years
AmIjustDreaming agrees,
No amount of money or any other cope can make up for missed teen love. I’m almost 26 and the teenpill still gets to me. While I rotted playing video games, everyone else was having their first kiss, sex, teen love. It will fuck you up forever.
“Only teen love can make up for missed teen love,” laments LOLI BREEDING.
“Highschools need to offer euthanasia at the last day of school,” adds _wifebeater_.
The anger, naturally, stokes the incels’ feelings of entitlement.
“Its such a crime that we never got to fuck prime girls,” complains Ropemaxx.
And it’s not long before they start talking about the age of consent in the Phillipines.
Even aside from the pedophilia, an undercurrent in almost all incel discussions of sex, this is all just bullshit. There’s nothing magical about having sex as a teenager; it’s exciting, to be sure, but it can also be awkward and even a bit embarrassing, as no one knows what they’re doing at first. Sex can actually be a lot better for everyone once both partners have had a little more (or a lot more) experience.
And sex isn’t everything; it’s certainly a pleasant part of life, for those who are into it, but you can live without it. And lots of people do, living through “dry spells” than can last years. Not having sex in high school doesn’t make you special; it doesn’t even make you all that unusual, given that the average age at which Americans have sex for the first time at is 17, with the percentage of high schoolers having sex dropping below 50% in recent years.
That’s right: MOST PEOPLE in high school aren’t having sex.
Yes, it sucks to go through high school dateless. But there are worse things in life. And you have the rest of your life to make up for lost time. Move the fuck on, dudes; stop fixating on something you cannot change.
There are some guys whose lives basically peaked in high school who spend the rest of their lives trying to recapture what they felt the day they scored the winning touchdown. And they won’t shut up about it. Incels are doing something similar, only backwards, fixating on their sexual failures in high school and never shutting up about them. I can’t decide which group is more pathetic, but I know that neither the aging jock or the aging incel is going to be happy until they clear the resentment and self-hatred out of their heads and start living in the present.
@NautaliaC
I can’t speak for everyone, but in my book it certainly is welcome (assuming the proper context, of course).
Weird Eddie : I know an ex Pars metro train driver. He changed jobs after having piloted a train that killed a teenager who was doing stupid stuff on the roof of the train. One of his responsability after stopping the train was to check if the poor sod was still alive, and his description was enough to leave a big mark on me just by second hand description. I don’t want to know how traumatizing the first hand experience must have been.
Apparently it’s one of the leading cause of turnout for metro driver. It’s not that common, about one accident per driver per ten year, but they considered that people should change job after such an accident.
@PoM : I don’t remember anything like that in France, perhaps because the country is overall more hostile to lawsuits.
@Ohlmann
It’s not just lawsuits, but the railways have their own police forces and can arrest people who screw around with train operations. It’s illegal to interfere with trains, and you can be criminally prosecuted.
@ Policy & Ohlmann:
As a society, we do poorly when determining fault and liability…. FOR SURE….
The most common cause of accidents involving non-railroad personnel and vehicles is, and has always been, the failure to yield. The rail roads have done a good job (not great, but…) of getting grade crossing controls installed at crossings which have consistent traffic, and accidents involving grade crossing control failures are in single-digits-per-year now. The most common cause is the road vehicle operator not noticing or ignoring the control signals. When the rail roads have to design grade crossings control barriers that block BOTH DIRECTION LANES, it means that people driving around the barrier has reached crisis proportion.
The MOST preventable, tho, are the accidents caused by pedestrians being on the tracks. When I did the last of the PSA work (2010-ish?), that was the only category that was consistently increasing.
These are the ones the train drivers will never un-see. I reviewed and edited film that had scenes I desperately want to grab people and show them and MAKE them understand… civilians see the PSA… I AND the train drivers saw the whole scene.
Here’s an exercise:
Take a can of soda pop (full — we wanna get the proportions correct). Put it on the driveway and run over it with a standard family sedan.
Note the results.
When a 100-car unit train strikes a family sedan, the weight proportions are the same as when your car ran over the Coca-Cola.
The front “sheet metal” which strikes the sedan is 1/2″ – 1″ thick steel, but the damage to the locomotive isn’t done by the impact. Think of a train as a thunderbolt inside an eggshell. The train is big and heavy, but even that impact with the sedan can lever it off the rails. And getting it back ON the rails is very expensive, thus the lawsuit — not that the lawsuit solves the problem, but it is what it is.
@ Victorious Parasol, I, too had a fascination with PSAs, maybe still do… but after DOING PSAs, I now watch them with an ear to the experience of the emergency workers, the bystanders, and the others who will have to parse those images.
@ Ohlmann;
it’s almost like the U.S. believes McDonalds OWES me $9 mill because I’m an idiot….
@ Policy:
If the link preview doesn’t show up, this is Arlo Guthrie doing his dad’s tune “East Texas Red” — oops, his dad’s friend Cisco Houston’s tune…
One would think “don’t walk on a fucking rail trestle” would be an obvious enough thing that nobody over the age of six should need to be told it. It’s right up there with “don’t play on the freeway” and “don’t waterslide down a sawmill” in terms of obviousness. As far as I’m concerned, any adult foolish enough to do that should be billed for it, and possibly face further penalties if they survive. Among other reasons, it’s a crime against the poor drivers who they forced to kill/injure them.
If you’re referring to the coffee lawsuit, that was grossly misreported in the media. The woman suffered third degree burns (burns that destroyed her flesh) and needed multiple skin grafts to her pelvic region because of something McDonald’s knew perfectly well was a danger and decided to do nothing about. From my understanding, she’s still in pain today. McDonald’s slandered her as a fool but nobody should expect molten lava to be in their coffee cup and you’re not a fool for that.
@Dalillama : one of the causes for stupid accident in Paris metro is teenagers trying to outdo each other with dangerous stunts. That’s why the aforementioned teenager was on the roof. Unlike some other childlike behaviors like gamers insulting everyone mother, I didn’t heard of 25+ year people doing that.
And yes, I would easily classify this kind of stunt of unvoluntary assault. Similar to unvoluntary manslaughter, where your intent isn’t to do the deed but you still are very much responsible for it.
@PoM : yes I heard that that macdo coffee was like 70°C, which is an obviously insane temperature for a beverage. That being said, it’s still very american that the problem was solved via a lawsuit from that woman ; in France, the normal road would be for a governement agency to study how coffees are done and either punish MacDonalds or push for a law about that.
@ POM
I remember reading about this after the event. It did get me wondering. Over here coffee is served scalding hot. If you get it from a ‘greasy spoon’ cafe especially. They pump super heated steam through it so you can’t usually drink it until quite a while after. For example, I get a free coffee from a supermarket about two miles away. I take it home in one of those bamboo cup things; and it’s usually still too hot to drink straight way even then. Is coffee normally served a bit cooler in the States? I know that often people say not to use boiling water to make coffee; so is that a regional thing?
ETA: If you get takeaway coffee here in a cardboard cup they often put a polystyrene or corrugated card sleeve on it so you can hold it. Do they have those in the US?
It was 180-190 F which is more like 85 C, which is not insane because insanity has nothing to do with it, but rather a stupid temperature that nobody can drink and which can cause third-degree burns in 3 seconds of contact.
How does the victim get compensated for her injuries and expenses with no lawsuit?
@Alan
I don’t know the exact temperature of the coffee I buy, but it’s sippable immediately and can be drank normally in about 30 minutes. I buy from a Starbucks-like coffee shop which is local to my area; I think Starbucks serves their coffee drinkable, too.
I don’t drink a lot of coffee though, because it gives me palpitations. It’s only when I’m am super craving some that I will buy it. Regardless, McDonald’s had had to settle with other people who were burned by their coffee before the infamous suit, so they knew perfectly well it was dangerous. They made the calculated business decision that harming people wasn’t so expensive that they were motivated to stop, because their settlements were for relatively low sums every time someone was injured prior to the big lawsuit.
I normally drink green tea, which as every connoisseur knows is best brewed at 155 F.
Well, sorry, I tend to use “insane” for “not thought out at all).
The victim in France would get healthcare regardless of lawsuit, and if left handicapped would get handicapped benefits. Neither are contingent on the women being blameless or MacDonald being guilty.
(now, the handicap benefit in France are at best stingy, and while somewhat socialized, being hospitalized can still be costly in France. It’s more that the system work entirely differently ; I would advice every country to get socialized healthcare, but I would not particulary direct them toward copying France)
(and I don’t mean it’s a good thing that I use insane for that ; it’s more that old habit die hard)
No, she’s dead, actually. Stella Liebeck was 79 at the time of the injury. She died in 2004 and according to her daughter she was in pain and suffered from significantly diminished quality of life for the 10 years following the incident, up until the day she died.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liebeck_v._McDonald%27s_Restaurants
@PoM
Remember we’re talking about a (reasonably) civilized country here. The state would have covered the medical expenses as per usual, and pay out temporary disability payments, also as per usual.
Re: Paris train accidents
I recall a few years ago I followed the blog of an urban explorer who did a lot of stuff in the Paris Metro. He got some interesting photos of the inner workings of the lines, but definitely not advisable due to the extreme risks. His blog is down now, but I can try to find an archive link if anyone is interested.
I guess that makes sense. It seems like it didn’t happen that long ago, but I reckon it was quite a while back.
@ POM
I had to google the conversion to C!
I wonder though if that’s the cultural difference. You know what we’re like here for tea. And the conventional wisdom is that you have to use super hot water on tealeaves to blanche them to get the full flavour. An SAS team attempted Everest by some unconventional route and they complained that the altitude meant they couldn’t get the water hot enough to make decent tea. You’d think there’d be more things to worry about at 29,000 feet; like the whole breathing thing.
But takeaway places use the same boilers to make coffee as they do tea, so maybe that’s it.
The Enterprise replicators must have been programmed in America hence Picard having to specify “hot”.
ETA:
Presumably you’re familiar with Unsafe at any speed?
Omg coffee and safety shorts! My two favorite things!!!!
I shoot for 140f when serving coffee, 160 if they ask for it extra hot, too much hotter and you’ll scald the milk.
It’s not from the 70s but, duck and cover. Bert the turtle teaches kids about nuclear armageddon! From the 70s ricky raccoon is pretty out there, so is “what is nothing”
Any short from encyclopedia brittanica shows what happens when a company has money to burn and drug fueled writers.
From the 90s the wendys training videos featuring a rap on how to put soda in a cup
I’ll stop now, but I could go on all day
Well, black tea is different. It tastes like oxidation anyway so you might as well boil it to death. Green tea has multiple components which leach out of the leaves at different rates at different temperatures; the caffeine, which tastes bitter, comes out better at higher temps than lower ones. Catechins and amino acids come out at lower temps equally well, so you can get a full flavor without the bitterness by brewing lower.
I always figured he was distinguishing from iced tea.
@ POM
I’d never considered the possibility of iced Earl Grey. Iced Lady Grey might be nice though. It’s practically orange juice anyway.
https://www.twinings.co.uk/about-twinings/latest-news-and-articles/top-10-twinings-iced-tea-recipes
@ clever4agirl
Go for it; I love PIFs!
@Alan
https://www.sweetandsavorybyshinee.com/earl-grey-iced-tea/
Twinings used to do this amazing iced green tea with elderflower and ginseng. I was pretty much addicted to it. Then they discontinued it. I was having a bit of a grumble when my chambers roommate said she hated when things like that happened. “I have a letter standard letter though, you could use that. You might have to edit it a bit”
“As a black woman it is always such a pleasant surprise to find a foundation cream…”
Yeah, just a bit.
We then realised that as Twinings was literally next door I could go round and whinge in person. They gave me the last two boxes of it, at cost. That might have been just to get me out of there. Still a result though.
ETA:
@ POM
Ooh, thanks. I’ll skip the honey (Don’t know if I’ve ever mentioned it, but I’m vegan) but do have some vanilla pods somewhere, and lemons (G&T fan) and of course Earl Grey .I shall report back.
@Alan : for all your need of PIFs, I will raise you that :
Only context I am willing to give is that it come from the french communist party.
@ ohlmann
“So remember kids, Charley says, stay away from the Bourgeoisie…”