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By David Futrelle
So over on 4Chan’s /pol/ board, the anons are talking about ways to save blondes with blue eyes from what anons think will be their eventual genetic demise. Never mind that the notion of the “disappearing blonde gene” is scientific nonsense; these guys love to get worked up about things that aren’t true.
In any case, one anon proposes what he sees as a solution to this imaginary problem, According to him, those with blonde hair and blie eyes
should only breed with alike phenotype. There should be serious incentives from the government if they have 7 children or more. There should also be a blonde hair blue eye ethnostate.
I would say I did Nazi that coming but I sort of did.
But as bad as this is, another anon manages to outdo it with a proposal that combines racism and misogyny, and even a bit of antisemitism, into one giant casserole of terrible:
I don’t even know where to start with this one; in addition to being utterly repugnant, I’m not sure it contains even a single sentence that’s true. Fertility (or the lack thereof) is tied most to birth control and abortions than it is to rape or promiscuity; there are plenty of traditionalist married couples with tons of kids. Black men aren’t out there raping white women en masse, nor are they “savages.” While “forced seduction” is a thing in some romance novels, women in real life don’t generally fall in love with their rapists. Consent — or “concent” — doesn’t make sex bad; it’s what distinguishes sex from rape. Jews are not sending financial aid to people of color. Black people aren’t churning out countless babies in their “gettos,” and, in fact, birthrates of people of color are declining rapidly. And while China is growing in worldwide influence, there’s no reason to think that Jews will soon be sharing the throne with Asians as kings of the world. (I mean, they make up 0.2 percent of the world’s population.)
Is that it? I may have missed an incorrect fact or two; it’s hard to keep track with something so densely wrong as this.
Ha! I wonder if this is a direct quote from the terrifying supraorganism known as Woman, or if he’s paraphrased a bit for the sake of brevity.
Does “Ikeans” above mean Swedish people?
While I’m sure some white men are civilized and respectful, by definition Nazis are not.
I think the phrase “it would be racist” in the second paragraph is true, but I think it’s accidental.
I’ve got blue eyes, but I don’t have blonde hair. My great-grandmother has blue eyes and blonde hair, but was of 100% Belarusian Jewish ancestry, so they wouldn’t like her at all.
I think it may be true women have said sex *with him* bores them to death.
So many questions.
Are these the same “civilized and respectful” white men who invented an entire economy based on chattel slavery?
Er, it’s up for debate how rape-y Vikings were when they were raiding, but ‘their own’ women had a lot of rights. There were laws against men forcing their attentions on unwilling free women, and women could divorce their husbands and get their dowries back if they were mistreated.
I have a weakness for blondes, but no one I’ve dated has had blue eyes. Hazel, green or brown, but not blue.
Plenty of boyfriends with blue eyes…and if I had to choose between the eyes and the hair, I’d go with the blue. But none of them had blonde hair. All medium to light brown.
And most blue eyed blondes I know are dishwater blonde with the help of a bottle. It’s a great look, but not as common without chemical assistance as people assume.
I suppose in Norway….
@pecunium
Haven’t seen you in a while. Welcome back.
And again: Who is going to support all these babies?
I don’t get it. I don’t understand this need to get into a baby-making race.
I’ll annoy these anons with a simple announcement: This white gal is fine if the only humans left are people of color.
@Naglfar
I’m blue eyed too, and have always felt slightly cheated out of the jet-black hair my gran and dad have strikingly paired with theirs (sporting instead that most enchanting shade, mousy brown). Nazis approving of my eye colour always makes me feel more ashamed of it, somehow.
Blonde hair (long, but sometimes in an updo often in a bun), blue eyes, petite and I choose my own partners period.
I am not going to “breed” with anybody and tounges mean way more to me than penises, as do abs, back muscles and shoulder muscles, a true heart and an artistic instinct.
We blue eyed blondes are doing just fine, it’s more that the Nazi creeps are just whining because we think they are gross.
@ lindsayirene
It seems at least some of the time they didn’t exactly have to force anyone.
@VP
Same here, though I get the feeling they wouldn’t count me as white because I’m Jewish and therefore part of (((the conspiracy))).
@Lollypop
I feel the same way. I like my eye color most of the time and I’ve gotten a lot of compliments about it, but this kind of thing makes me like it less.
It’s also weird how the original Nazis latched onto blue eyes as an Aryan-only trait. I know lots of Jewish people who have blue eyes (my whole immediate family, for instance), and also a lot who have blonde hair (I don’t have that, I have dark brown hair).
@Alan Robertshaw
So they were too classy for the rest to keep up? Well, to paraphrase ZZ Top, every Anglo-Saxon girl crazy ‘bout a sharp-dressed Viking.
@ Vicky P
Well the Sun is increasing in luminosity over time. So there will be evolutionary pressure for darker skin; and those lineages that don’t adapt will die off first. So that is kind of inevitable.
https://usm.maine.edu/planet/sun-getting-hotter-if-so-why-will-earth-eventually-become-too-hot-life
At a rate of 6% every billion years, the effect on human evolution is negligible.
We will be long extinct by then.
@Naglfar
My first name is of Hebrew origin, though my family’s been gentiles since at least 1066 as far as I know. I once had a co-worker tell me, “That’s a *Jewish* name.” The closest I’ve come to antisemitism aimed at me. I was dumbstruck. Worse, she was my team lead, so I couldn’t try to paraphrase JRR Tolkein’s famous reply on the subject. The best response I could think of at the time was to say, “Yes, it’s Hebrew.”
(If I’d been braver, I would’ve said, “Just like Yeshua ben Yosef.” I still regret that.)
The older I get, the angrier I feel at people who simply cannot stand the mere existence of “other” people.
@ nobody
Hey speak for yourself; I eat a lot of cruciferous vegetables!
One thing that does get me all wistful about the future is that, in about 600 million years, someone will be watching the last ever total solar eclipse.
@Alan Robertshaw
If conservatives hear that, I wonder if they’ll get upset that the sun is a Jewish plot for white genocide.
I’ve never seen a total solar eclipse but I did see a partial one a few years ago. If there is intelligent life on Earth (which would probably bear little resemblance to humans) in 600,000,000 years, maybe they would have advanced enough technology to bring the moon back to a position where we can have eclipses. There might also be practical reasons, as having a moon may stabilize a planet’s orbit, making it more habitable.
The thing about the “blonde hair blue eye ethnostate” just goes to show that ultimately, no one is “white” enough for the white nationalists. If they did get their private country for the pale of hue, they would start policing the exact shade of blondness and blueness, demanding ever-paler skin. And when those traits flattened out, they would start focusing on other features: the shape of nose and chin, maybe exiling anyone below a certain adult height or above a certain weight. That’s assuming, of course, that they didn’t utterly collapse into civil war as soon as they closed their borders to brown.
@Karalora
Yeah, they’d just keep moving the goalposts using fear and paranoia until it was all one genetic monoculture. At which point a disease would probably make like the Irish Potato Famine on them and wipe their Perfect Master Race ™ out, but actual science never really does enter their reasoning anyway.
@Karalora, Bananananana dakry
They would also probably have tons of genetic disease, as they’d all end up inbreeding to achieve the desired traits. Ironically, some white supremacists brand themselves as “human biodiversity advocates,” despite the fact that their plan reduces biodiversity by definition.
These folks really want to regress to a point where each family is at war with the one in the next house over, for their resources and wimmins.
I know a couple people who are adult children of rape. Their family dynamic is not great. Not exactly an ideal way to raise healthy children for your eternal Reich.
As a tall, blonde, blue-eyed woman I have a fondness for any other woman but. I’m not so convinced people are attracted to those who look the same. I feel it’s more of a Je ne sais quois of interests and personality.
They’re not very good at picturing people meeting each other ‘organically’ without some sort of rigid set of rules or ignoring consent altogether.
@Naglfar
They don’t understand Mendelian genetics. They think dominant traits (dark hair and eyes) permanently swamp out recessive ones (blond hair and blue eyes), destroying them for all future generations. So they think the only way to “save” fair coloration is to make sure its possessors only breed with each other.
Perhaps needless to say, they also don’t understand hybrid vigor.
Apropos of nothing really, but this is what the original* Brits looked like.
And your average ‘indigenous’ white Briton still gets about 10% of their DNA from this chap’s lineage. Although the bulk of our DNA originates in Mesopotamia. To do with Beaker People or Celts or something.
(*There were people in Britain before it was covered in ice; but none of their DNA seems to have found its way into the modern population.)
@NautaliaC
There’s some evidence that most people are more attracted to those who are different as a means of increasing genetic diversity. One study showed that people tend to be more attracted to other people who have different immunoglobulin patterns.
@Alan Robertshaw
Indeed, all people today are descended from ancestors who had dark skin, as the first humans had dark skin. Skin color is really just a function of how much sunlight an area gets, with areas that have more direct sunlight having darker skinned populations evolve.