By David Futrelle
Today I present to you some thoughtful comments posted to this blog by critics. Well, they weren’t technically posted here in that I didn’t let any of them through moderation. But I think you’ll see why I felt they were worth sharing with you all.
First, there’s a dude called, somewhat ironically, RealitySpeaking who has a unique solution to the whole incel problem:
If you don’t do something to correct the gender imbalance there will be an uprising of men most likely sooner or later in the west as Black Pidgeon Speaks has warned in his analysis. There will be lots of violence and you are going to end up like the Middle East or any other countries with gender imbalances in partners for males.
At the very least you should make it mandatory for some of them to become women in order to correct this, at least the most feminine ones in the population
(I believe this commenter is the same dude who put forth a similar plan several weeks ago. )
Then there’s “God,” with a rather spectacularly antisemitic (and thoroughly wrongheaded) take on Stefan Molyneux:
Molyneux is Jewish and has always been controlled opposition working for the neocon Jews who led the fake Alt-Right movement, which is another BS movement run by Jews to make whites look bad. But you see, Molyneux finally began to cave in to expose the evil Jew only after being pressured by his uneducated Alt-Right followers to name the Jew. And he did so for the money. Like all Jews, money is the God of Molyneux.
For what it’s worth, while Molyneux does indeed seem to be a big fan of money, he’s not Jewish. (He did apparently have a Jewish grandmother, but he’s clearly not culturally or religiously Jewish. Not that there’s anything wrong with that.) Also, I’m pretty sure Jews aren’t secretly running their own fake version of the alt right.
Then there’s this guy, who has some thoughts on “international Chad markets” in Europe and East Asia.
[T]he reason why the fertility rate is dropping is that there simply aren’t enough chadlike men in some of the aforementioned nations/continents. When was the last time you saw an East Asian who qualified as an alpha male? The declining birthrate in Japan, I would say, is due to the existence of novel, international chad markets that native Japanese women are eager to take advantage of, leaving Japanese men to wear makeup and live like hermits amongst their comic books and talking foid simulators.
Next he moves on to, er, Brexit.
Likewise, the hostility towards such movements as Brexit and all the elite bashing of anyone who so much as criticizes the EU is no doubt the result of women looking to expand their available pool of +8 men.
Women’s unchecked sex drives are one of THE major causes of globalization in the modern world, and I can easily foresee a future in which attractive, mogmaxxing men are abducted from every corner of the world, and brought against their will to live in wealthier nations where they will be relegated to pleasing the every sexual whim of whichever woman it’s their turn to please.
Well, someone’s got a very vivid imagination, huh?
Sub 8 men will find themselves with even fewer of the rights they so presently enjoy.
Speaking as a sub-8 man I really have no fucking idea what he’s talking about here. I have as many rights as anyone else, and I’m really not afraid of being replaced by kidnapped international alphas.
Well, that’s enough of a male bag for one day.
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Any threat, no matter how insignificant, to men’s balls is just the end of the UNIVERSE!!!
I won’t be looking up “mogmaxxing,” as the last time I did that the term was “goatse”….
@ tim gueguen;
135lbs or no, Bruce Lee was Alpha!
@ weird eddie
Bruce’s mum initially gave him a female name (Sai-fon). I wonder what incels would make of that?
She later gave him a name (Jun-fan) meaning ‘return again’ because she believed he would one day return to the US.
(Like all 70s Brit kids I’m a bit of a Bruce obsessive!)
WWTH : The hypothesis that a contracted killer was killed by his patron before he can talk isn’t too far fetched, people try that a lot at the very least. Usually it’s pretty obvious, but competency do happen.
As for being manipulated, that depend on what you mean by that. If it’s that he was approached and asked to kill the judge, just not having been said that he would die afterward or lied for the reason to do it, then yes it’s very possible. If it’s that he was gaslighted into killing someone, then it’s pretty far fetched and unlikely, because plans that complex tend to not work, too many point of failure.
His site was taken offline it seem.
For me, the base hypothesis is that it’s either a failed assassination or a failed intimidation attempt. I also expect the police to not make much effort if any to find the culprit, similaire to how they didn’t seek too hard how Epstein died. It’s also unlikely to be directed by Trump but since it benefit him he is probably fine with it.
O/T: For anyone in the gaming industry or community, this may be old news, but it seems like Ubisoft has been protecting rapists and other awful people.
Super petty, but I hate when Americans type ‘er’. You’re trying to express ‘uh’, like the sound you make when you’re thinking of what to say next. You don’t say ‘er’ with an ‘r’ sound out loud, do you? No. You say ‘uh’. Type ‘uh’.
You got the ‘er’ spelling from British people. Think about it – ‘uh’ in an American accent sounds the same as ‘er’ in a British accent. But ‘er’ coming from an American would be pronounced with the hard ‘r’. You don’t say ‘er’ out loud, you say ‘uh’. So type ‘uh’.
@Naglfar:
Thx, I appreciate the good thoughts. Like several of us, I’ve been lurking & reading. Just really haven’t had the urge to post much (ah, the “joys” of depression), &, so far, this year has been…rough.
@ObSidJag
Sorry to hear that. Anyway, hang in there, this too shall pass.
@ObSidJag
hugs And welcome back.
@Ariblester:
*looks up the linked RationalWiki page* Oh good lord, another Canadian alt-righter, dammit. Well, that explains why Lauren Southern was spending time with him.
@Lumipuna:
Sorry, I can’t look at that thumbnail image without my brain automatically singing ‘Go have a nice day!’ (For those unfamiliar, ‘Have a nice day’ was another song by the same group, and the first one of theirs that I heard. It involved a lot of odd jerky dancing in the same sort of V formation. They definitely play off a lot of the ‘otaku’ culture.)
Eh. I’ve heard someone say he wasn’t because he dies of an allergic reaction, and that’s a weakness or something.
This is pretty much the reason I dislike this talk of generalized “alphas”. If there’s a group of men (or people), I suppose it can make sense to declare one of them the alpha, but it seems like with the talk of men being alphas in general, any little thing can trip you up, no matter how irrelevant or nonsensical. There are no real qualifications, so no one qualifies.
@Masse_mysteria
I think that’s the point. If you can make an impossible standard, you can control people by telling them they need to do/buy things to fit the standards that they will never reach. Similar to how the beauty industry markets by making women insecure about their bodies at telling them they have to buy certain things to meet impossible (or at least unhealthy) standards, toxic masculinity makes men insecure in their masculinity and tells them they have to do certain things that are often dangerous or destructive to live up to the impossible standards of being an “alpha.”
@PetPeevy
Heck off.
@PetPeevy
Who made you the language police? You’ve never met us IRL, so how do you know how we talk anyway?
@ petpeevy
Er, I kinda do.
(If I’m about to broach a particularly difficult topic it can often be, errrrr…)
@ naglfar
I think Mitchel and Webb illustrated your point pretty well.
@Alan Robertshaw
I sort of do, though for me it’s more of a combination of “err” and “umm” to get “erm.”
And that sketch does show what I’m talking about, I know the problem of “lady moustache” far too well. It’s too bad Robert Webb is a TERF now.
@ naglfar
I have different ‘envelopes’ for different situations.
There’s a general “Sorry to interrupt, but…” Er
There’s “I’m not quite sure how I’m going to deal with this”; which starts as an Er and transitions into an Mmm?
Then there’s the slow realisation that we’re in an irresolvable predicament. Which is a very long Err, that turns into a rumbling growl, and ends as a noise that only whales can hear.
So the thing about British “er” is that we ‘Muricans read it so many times in books before ever realizing that it meant the “uh” sound that we also say…that “er” became an actual thing that we vocalize too. We picked it up by reading. If I type “uh,” I’m imagining myself saying “uhhh,” and if I type “er,” I’m imagining myself saying “errrrrr.”
@PetPeevy
What if I learned British English at school but usually write “uh”? How bad is my transgression?
I’ve never really thought about this, mind you. Maybe back when the Harry Potter books were still new and I’d started reading them in English, but happened to leaf through a Finnish translation and was incensed to find it having people say “ööm” all the time, probably as a translation for “erm”, even though it was a sound I’d never heard anyone say in real life, much less multiple times in the span of a few sentences. It’s supposed to be “öö” or “ööh, obviously.