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Incel: Women shouldn’t have the right to vote because they have sexy bodies

Incels prefer women silent

By David Futrelle

Here’s a new one from the incel cesspit known as Incels.co: Women shouldn’t have the right to vote because they can already get whatever they want by using the hypnotic power of their sexy bodies on men.

In a post titled “Females Should NOT Vote,” an incel called COPE GmgH writes

Why should a female that only needs a passable body to succeed in life … care about freedom.

They don’t need to create something to have a good such [??] and for that reason they don’t care about freedom to own private property, freedom of speech.

Think about what kind of policies females push, the only thing they care about is undermining ugly men to eliminate them from the dating market and fuck the chads.

The states have become stronger because females have “been given” more political rights and female nature is submission, just like females don’t really negotiate for higher wages, they also don’t negotiate to have more rights.

Let’s throw some slightly veiled antisemitism into the mix:

And my fellowcels already know which elite wants females to have rights. Strong state is the enemy of mankind.

And there you have it.

As ludicrous as this argument is, it’s not that far off from an argument made by Warren Farrell, the intellectual godfather of the Men’s Rights Movement, who thinks that men are basically rendered powerless (or at least feel powerless) whenever they catch sight of a shapely female ass.

Incels’ terrible ideas about women don’t just appear out of nowhere; they take much of their inspiration from Men’s Rights and “Red Pill” ideology. Incels and MRAs aren’t exactly the same thing, but their ideas largely come from the same garbage dump.

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Redsilkphoenix: Jetpack Vixen, Intergalactic Meanie
Redsilkphoenix: Jetpack Vixen, Intergalactic Meanie
1 year ago

I have no idea if this is a female, but it is a shapely ass:
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And you say men like to loose control when they see one? XD

Still looks like a more fun ass to play with than what the incels have in mind.

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

What if I’m over the wall and don’t have a sexy body? Can I vote then?

Naglfar
Naglfar
1 year ago

they don’t care about freedom to own private property, freedom of speech.

Um, I kind of do care about freedom of speech, and I’d imagine most other women do as well. Fellow women, do you care about freedom of speech?

Also, aren’t incels constantly complaining that women have too much in the way to rights?

Think about what kind of policies females push, the only thing they care about is undermining ugly men to eliminate them from the dating market and fuck the chads.

Somehow I don’t remember that slogan from any of the feminist activism I’ve been involved in. I remember lots about abortion access and reducing wage gaps, but nothing about removing ugly men from dating markers.

The states have become stronger

Classic “small government” conservative, wants small government for himself but not for anyone else.

females don’t really negotiate for higher wages, they also don’t negotiate to have more rights.

Wait, then why are you constantly angry about feminism if women aren’t trying to get more rights?

This whole thing is just weird. It’s like they took all the usual incel bullshit, inverted about half of it, and let it dry. Incels generally complain about women trying to get rights, and now they’re complaining about women not trying to get rights, but kept all their weird stuff about the sexual marketplace.

@WWTH
And what if I’m under the wall but not sexy? Then can I vote? Who will determine which women are able to vote?

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
1 year ago

@ redsilkphoenix

but it is a shapely ass:

Whilst I do love me a donkey; if you want actual ass asses, various museums are having a ‘best bum’ challenge.

And also cats.

https://www.artfixdaily.com/news_feed/2020/07/08/5416-museums-battle-on-social-media-over-best-cats-mystery-objects-and

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
1 year ago

Why should a female that only needs a passable body to succeed in life … care about freedom.

Why, indeed? Why should a woman want to be something other than a literal slave to a man? Why should she care about freedom, if having a “passable body” is all she needs to secure herself a master to serve?

for that reason they don’t care about freedom to own private property, freedom of speech.

It’s interesting that “freedom to own private property” was the first place this incel’s mind went when trying to think of freedoms. Freedom of speech is talked about a lot, so of course he brings it up, but ownership of property was his first thought. I’m not sure if that’s because he thinks women should be property, or if he’s so immersed in capitalism that “freedom to own capital” goes completely unquestioned in his mind.

female nature is submission

Evangelicals will say the same thing, but evangelical women report that they have to fight themselves to submit as a general rule. Submission does not actually come naturally to them, despite believing fully that a woman’s God-designed place is under her father/husband. Even a woman who wants desperately to be in her “natural” place finds it unnatural to demure constantly, and there is a thriving business amongst high-profile evangelical women to help counsel other women on how to overcome this and submit anyway.

tl;dr: incels don’t know what they’re talking about when they discuss evopsyche biotruffs

Naglfar
Naglfar
1 year ago

@Alan Robertshaw
If you are ever in Boston, Massachusetts, at Faneuil Hall there is a painting of George Washington that I always found a bit laughable:
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I can understand depicting him with his horse, but I always found it a bit odd how they chose to make the horse’s butt so prominent, as opposed to its head. Anyway, that’s my nomination for the best bum challenge.

@PoM

I’m not sure if that’s because he thinks women should be property, or if he’s so immersed in capitalism that “freedom to own capital” goes completely unquestioned in his mind.

I read it as “women want socialism which means no private property,” but that might have been giving incels too much credit.

Tyko
Tyko
1 year ago

These jackwagons also think most women are hideous and unworthy *eye roll*

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
1 year ago

@ naglfar

You got me intrigued! So I did a bit of research. Here’s the supposed story.

The city of Charleston commissioned an artist called John Trumbull to paint a portrait of George Washington. He duly did so. However the city rejected it because it showed Washington at Trenton not Charleston (which they hadn’t actually specified in the contract). So they refused to pay him unless he redid the painting but with Charleston.

Trumbull did redo the painting; but with the horse about to crap on the town.
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But it seems “Washington is a horse’s arse” was not a unique sentiment amongst artists at the time; or maybe just artistic solidarity with Trumbull? I’ll have to check the dates.
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Hope the tradition continues for Trump’s official portrait.

Ooh, and now I’m reminded of the Clinton one.

Naglfar
Naglfar
1 year ago

@Alan Robertshaw
It seems likely that the painting at Faneuil Hall is probably inspired by the Trenton one or reflecting a common view, as the one at Faneuil is by Gilbert Stuart, better known for a partially completed painting of Washington he made which was the source of the image on the US one dollar bill.

Regarding the Clinton portrait, the creator of that one famously said that Clinton was the “most famous liar of all time.” Not so anymore, I guess.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
1 year ago

@ naglfar

I’ve put a call out to some of my art expert friends to see if they can shed any light on the subject.

As for unfinished presidential portraits; I think this one is especially poignant. I have a thing for uncompleted artworks; they can have really moving stories behind them.

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Naglfar
Naglfar
1 year ago

@Alan Robertshaw
I’m also interested in unfinished music, like Mozart’s Requiem in D Minor or Mahler’s 10th Symphony. I have somewhat mixed feelings about latter day attempts to complete these works in the style of the original composers, but I do enjoy seeing the different ways of reconstructing music from unorganized manuscripts.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
1 year ago

@ naglfar

I have somewhat mixed feelings about latter day attempts to complete these works in the style of the original composers

Don’t get me started on A.I.!!!

Rabid Rabbit
Rabid Rabbit
1 year ago

@Alan: I was hoping someone would bring up the best bum competition.

How badly do you think it would blow these idiots’ minds if they heard about it and then discovered that the majority of the bums being nominated are men’s?

Lizzie
Lizzie
1 year ago

@Alan, these unfinished artworks are certainly poignant – see Adrian Brandon.com ‘Stolen’ – “This series is dedicated to the many black people that were robbed of their lives at the hands of the police. In addition to using markers and pencil, I use time as a medium to define how long each portrait is colored in. 1 year of life = 1 minute of color. Tamir Rice was 12 when he was murdered, so I colored his portrait for 12 minutes.”

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
1 year ago

@ rabid rabbit

then discovered that the majority of the bums being nominated are men’s?

Ooh yeah. And we could rub it in further by going all Ludovico Technique on them with this.

Ariblester
1 year ago

Why should a female that only needs a passable body to succeed in life … care about freedom.

They don’t need to create something to have a good such [??] and for that reason they don’t care about freedom to own private property, freedom of speech.

I think “such” in this case is used in the sense of “the subject which was previously mentioned”, i.e. it refers to “life” in the previous sentence. English may not be OP’s first language.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
1 year ago

@ rabid rabbit

Oh, I posted the wrong video. I was thinking of this one. It pains out that, in western culture, the male form was seen to represent beauty until about the C18th. Then it shifted to women. But all those supposed traditional western men from classical times that MRAlt-right types idolise, would actually have been staring in admiration at men’s bums. I wonder how they’d rationalise that?

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
1 year ago

@ lizzie

Adrian Brandon

Are you familiar with Shaun Leonardo’s work? He’s done some amazing stuff on that theme. I won’t post any images as they can be a bit intense; but well worth checking out. I would say they were prescient. They seem almost to be recording recent events, even though they were produced ages ago. But of course, police murders of black people is hardly a new thing.

But speaking of unfinished; you probably know this one. For those who don’t; this guy had just found out he was being drafted to Vietnam. The look on his face is powerful enough. Then you wonder why he never came back for the second sitting; and it hits you.

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Naglfar
Naglfar
1 year ago

@Alan Robertshaw, Rabid Rabbit

It pains out that, in western culture, the male form was seen to represent beauty until about the C18th. Then it shifted to women. But all those supposed traditional western men from classical times that MRAlt-right types idolise, would actually have been staring in admiration at men’s bums. I wonder how they’d rationalise that?

It seems even today many heterosexual men do like to admire the bodies of other men. This seems to be why men’s magazines have so many pictures of shirtless muscular men and straight porn has so many shots of male actors’ penises. So although the culture has shifted, the idea of men admiring other men’s bodies has stuck around in some forms, though fewer would admit it. I’d imagine incels could rationalize it as that they think men are superior in general so it would be superior to look at a man’s butt.

Then again, alt rightists don’t seem to know much about the western civilization that they claim to love. Like how the Greeks had gay sex all the time.

Nequam
Nequam
1 year ago

I think Trump’s portrait can only be done justice by Joe Coleman.

https://joecoleman.com/ (NSFW in places)

Surplus to Requirements, Observer of the Vast Blight-Wing Enstupidation
Surplus to Requirements, Observer of the Vast Blight-Wing Enstupidation
1 year ago

@some chud:

The states have become stronger because females have “been given” more political rights and female nature is submission, just like females don’t really negotiate for higher wages, they also don’t negotiate to have more rights.

Oh, really? What, exactly, do you think the suffragists were doing back in the nineteen-teens then?

@Naglfar:

This whole thing is just weird. It’s like they took all the usual incel bullshit, inverted about half of it, and let it dry.

Transporter accident?

Battering Lamb
Battering Lamb
1 year ago

But all those supposed traditional western men from classical times that MRAlt-right types idolise, would actually have been staring in admiration at men’s bums. I wonder how they’d rationalise that?

By taking away voting right from Chad, would be my guess.

Lumipuna
Lumipuna
1 year ago

Who will determine which women are able to vote?

You need to appear before an all male panel somewhere and convince them that you aren’t sexy enough to efficiently manipulate men in social settings.

Ariblester
1 year ago

Surplus to Requirements, Observer of the Vast Blight-Wing Enstupidation wrote on
July 13, 2020 at 12:33 am:

@some chud:

The states have become stronger because females have “been given” more political rights and female nature is submission, just like females don’t really negotiate for higher wages, they also don’t negotiate to have more rights.

Oh, really? What, exactly, do you think the suffragists were doing back in the nineteen-teens then?

But the suffragists were ugly women, which we know because of all the reliable (male-produced, which is the same thing really) propaganda historical documents depicting them as such, so they obviously did not have the sufficient miniskirt power levels required to subvert democracy. Remember, women were given (Given! Typical.) the vote at the same time Communism (a known globalist plot) was making itself known (give or take a few years, it’s fine), so obviously it was all the culmination of a fiendish plot to wharble garble garble.

Rabid Rabbit
Rabid Rabbit
1 year ago

@Alan

And the Greeks, who came up with the theories of the perfect male body we still mostly follow, thought that overlarge genitals were ridiculous.

@Naglfar

It seems even today many heterosexual men do like to admire the bodies of other men. This seems to be why men’s magazines have so many pictures of shirtless muscular men and straight porn has so many shots of male actors’ penises.

I often wonder how people like this, who doubtless enjoy porn, deal with the dicks. I mean, I think it’s pretty clear that one reason pseudo-lesbian porn is popular is that it gives straight guys two women and no icky penises, but they put on strap-ons so clearly they’d want a/your dick if only they could get it, so you don’t have to feel inadequate or worry that they could get by without you… But surely they must come across porn where, even unconsciously, they find themselves thinking that they prefer looking at that actor’s dick rather than that other actor’s one?

Men’s reactions to dicks is actually one of the things I found most fascinating when I was flipping through the Hite Report on Male Sexuality recently. Well, one thing that’s fascinating is how it’s definitely of its time: the answers are definitely not from today. But there’s a constant thread of “I’m definitely not gay” tied with strong statements (from the same guys) of “The male body is definitely esthetically superior to the female body, and a well-shaped dick is definitely better than what women have (which is why I don’t go down on them, ew).” In this day and age, I can’t imagine many manly men explaining how dicks are visually great, for fear of coming across as gay. Explaining how it’s great to have a dick, sure (which is probably the same thing as explaining that one is a dick), but going on about how great they look and how superior they are? Even saying “No homo” won’t save you these days.

opposablethumbs
opposablethumbs
1 year ago

Who will determine which women are able to vote?

You need to appear before an all male panel somewhere and convince them that you aren’t sexy enough to efficiently manipulate men in social settings.

As Lumipuna has noted, if you sink you weren’t a witch (eh, too bad you drowned) and if you float you’re obviously a witch. That’s some catch, that catch 22. It’s the best there is …

Masse_Mysteria
Masse_Mysteria
1 year ago

Think about what kind of policies females push, the only thing they care about is undermining ugly men to eliminate them from the dating market and fuck the chads.

I was going to try and say something about how Sanna Marin became the Finnish PM last autumn and did not start a war on ugly men, but then I realised she took over from Antti Rinne, so if you were dead set on proving something like this, you could say she supplanted an ugly man, so there goes my theory…
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@opposablethumbs

As Lumipuna has noted, if you sink you weren’t a witch (eh, too bad you drowned) and if you float you’re obviously a witch. That’s some catch, that catch 22. It’s the best there is …

I was wondering about women who do not look like women, but then I realised that if you were one and appeared in front of the panel to enquire about your suffrage, you’d probably be in for some sort of trouble.

Ohlmann
Ohlmann
1 year ago

@Masse_mysteria : also, if you’re a woman not looking like a woman in a society where women are at best minors, there’s some incentives to make you pass of for a man.

vaiyt
vaiyt
1 year ago

“Democracy would be so much better if only people who agree with me got to vote” is such a freshman take on politics.

Naglfar
Naglfar
1 year ago

@Battering Lamb

By taking away voting right from Chad, would be my guess.

Seeing how much incels hate Chad, they could probably get behind this.

@Rabid Rabbit
I think part of it is that men like their own dicks, and they like to project themselves as the actors in the films, so they can conceptualize the penises as their own or an extension of themselves.

But there’s a constant thread of “I’m definitely not gay” tied with strong statements (from the same guys) of “The male body is definitely esthetically superior to the female body, and a well-shaped dick is definitely better than what women have (which is why I don’t go down on them, ew).”

I think this also partially explains the popularity of trans* porn, as them they can look at dicks that are attached to women. As a woman who happens to have a dick, I don’t really like the fetishization of a part of my anatomy that I don’t really care for, but I do understand to a degree why men watch this type of pornography.

The male obsession with penises is also present outside porn, anyone who’s met or been a teenage boy knows how much they love drawing dicks on things, while very few draw vaginas on random objects.

Lumipuna
Lumipuna
1 year ago

The male obsession with penises is also present outside porn, anyone who’s met or been a teenage boy knows how much they love drawing dicks on things, while very few draw vaginas on random objects.

I remember this penis-drawing thing from observing* other boys in school. However at least traditionally, a crude cartoon depiction of vulva is also a popular teen boy “joke” here in Finland. There are some slang names** for these vulva pictograms, distinct from slang names for the actual vulva.

* One time at about age 15, I was doodling a generalized live orthoceratoid in my school notebook, like a true nerd, and a classmate honestly thought at first I was drawing a penis. I wasn’t even trolling him, I was just bored and oblivious.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orthoceratoidea

** For example “church travel boat”, in reference to the several pairs of “oars” or schematically drawn pubic hairs projecting from the sides.

Naglfar
Naglfar
1 year ago

@Lumipuna
I did not know that. In America, vulva drawings are not as common among teen boys, or at least they weren’t where I went to high school.

Lumipuna
Lumipuna
1 year ago

Cultural differences, and perhaps also generational differences.

We don’t really have “men’s magazines”* or bodybuilding magazines either, though I’ve heard the latter were more popular back when gay porn was illegal. Bodybuilding magazines were the original publishing channel of the erotic artist Touko Laaksonen aka Tom of Finland.

* Except as in traditional Finnish euphemism for porn magazines.

Naglfar
Naglfar
1 year ago

@Lumipuna
That might also have to do with differing expectations of masculinity in Finland. In America most men’s magazines have “Men” or “Gentlemen” in the title and have a man on the cover to reassure the masculinity of the man reading it. I’ve never read a men’s magazine cover to cover, as I’ve never had the interest, so I don’t know what’s inside.

Threp (formerly Shadowplay)

… so I don’t know what’s inside.

50% adverts, 50% metrosexual bullshit.

You’re welcome. 😛

Lainy
Lainy
1 year ago

My female nature is to tell these guys to go suck on a cactus. But that’s really unfair to the cactus.

Naglfar
Naglfar
1 year ago

@Lainy

But that’s really unfair to the cactus.

Sticking with the southwest theme, maybe they could suck on some cowboy spurs instead?

Lumipuna
Lumipuna
1 year ago

50% adverts, 50% metrosexual bullshit.

There have been occasional attempts to launch a Finnish “magazine for men”, as in lifestyle magazine revolving around some stereotypical notions of “male interests”. I think this sort of identity marketing works much better with women, because men are set as the default people while women end up feeling like they’re truly a special interest group. It doesn’t help that the Finnish language community is only five million people.

Naturally, advertisers would be eager to establish expensive clothes/accessories/cars/toys as “male interests”. Not so much metrosexual, I think, but alternate fashionable bourgeois/virile playboy/high-tech outdoorsman aspersions.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
1 year ago

Had a response to the ‘Horse’s ass’ query.

Alan, I’ve been researching this question for more than a decade, as it relates to the depiction created by John Trumbull, later replicated by Gilbert Stuart, of the victorious Washington after the battle of Dorchester Heights. (Photo at bottom right).

I’ve not found a definitive answer. One scholar suggests the composition is a comment on the character of the subject. Trumbull served as Washington’s aide-de-camp during the Revolutionary War. By all accounts the two had a mutually respectful relationship. This would not explain why Stuart later embraced the composition.

One writer suggests Stuart was not good at painting horses. This would not explain Trumbull’s earlier composition, or other depictions of powerful man in the same pose.

Another historian offers that powerful men were so portrayed as in position to mount and head off into battle. Indeed, in the Dorchester portrait Washington confidently reigns in his favorite horse, as Blueskin appears to be twisting his neck backwards in obedience.

Unfortunately, although Trumbull left extensive writings he did not illuminate the philosophy behind the composition. As other artists have so embraced this composition, the last explanation seems most credible.

Threp (formerly Shadowplay)

… alternate fashionable bourgeois/virile playboy/high-tech outdoorsman aspersions.

Aye, they’re pretty much like that, with an overlarge dose of frat boy immaturity thrown in – the metrosexual reference is an old joke/lament about the content being both mixed (instead of sensibly confining one type of subject to one magazine) and the sudden emphasis on personal grooming pushed by the advertisers when these sorts of mags really started to get going.

Wouldn’t so much call them aspirational, mind. To me they seem more like targets or scorecards for the readers who are unsure of their place in the pecking order of manhood. /sarc.

Masse_Mysteria
Masse_Mysteria
1 year ago

@Naglfar & Lumipuna
Some time ago I saw a lot of those vulva pictures on belts, wallets and stuff, but not so much anymore. I used to wonder if it was some sort of reclamation thing, since the rudest Finnish swear word is slang for a vulva/vagina, which to me has always seemed kind of unfair.

… to say nothing of the fact that one of the euphemisms for the vulva picture is something like “spider wrong way around” and even as a child I was like, that’s not the correct amount of legs or body segments.

Naglfar
Naglfar
1 year ago

@Threp

the sudden emphasis on personal grooming pushed by the advertisers when these sorts of mags really started to get going.

Well, if it motivates men to have better hygiene I would consider that a good thing.

I do wish some of the material on personal grooming, both in magazines and elsewhere, was less gendered in how it is presented, there are of course women and non-binary people who have facial hair and may want to groom it a certain way or otherwise present more masculine (or men who may want to wear makeup, etc). Same with grooming/hygiene products like razors or antiperspirants, the same products are often marketed in different versions for men and women, with the women’s versions often costing more (the pink tax).

@Masse_mysteria

the rudest Finnish swear word is slang for a vulva/vagina, which to me has always seemed kind of unfair.

The same is true in English, as the c-word (not “crap”, the other one) is widely considered, at least in American English*, to be among the most offensive words. Although it originally was a neutral anatomical term, it is now considered very offensive.

*To the best of my knowledge, this word and it’s rhyming slang equivalent are considered less offensive elsewhere.

Masse_Mysteria
Masse_Mysteria
1 year ago

@Naglfar

The same is true in English, as the c-word (not “crap”, the other one) is widely considered, at least in American English*, to be among the most offensive words.

I’m pretty sure I never heard of that word before I was of age, and I was immediately fascinated by it, since the Finnish equivalent (to my knowledge) is never used to refer to a person. You can add “-head”, obviously, the same way you can make it into an adjective or a verb, but still.

Lumipuna
Lumipuna
1 year ago

The Finnish word Masse Mysteria alluded to is a very popular generic expletive (not usually a personal insult), functionally equivalent to English usage of “fuck” rather than any anatomical term. I think people only rarely recall its literal meaning, or its gendered association, but inasmuch as that happens, it’s certainly problematic. Sort of like the rape associations that sometimes come up with “fuck you” etc.

I think it alludes to some idea of dirtiness or black magic that was traditionally associated with the vulva/vagina. Hence, you get expressions of aggression like “go crawl into the *****!” Some of this language apparently goes back to Proto-Finno-Ugric. I know some sex educators and feminists are currently trying to reclaim the word for casual literal use.

Battering Lamb
Battering Lamb
1 year ago

In dutch the c-word isn’t that big of a deal either. Like saying c***-weather is pretty common here. Same goes for a more vulgar word for testicles. Both words start with a strong K-sound which is very satisfying in swearing for some reason.

We also swear a lot with diseases (cholera, typhus and cancer among other things). I’ve not found another country that does this, and it is one of the things that likely contributes to the dutch generally being considered rude. For what it’s worth, it always made more sense to me to swear with something negative like a disease than with genitalia or sexual preferences.

@Naglfar: Agreed. I kind of figured ‘getting rid of Chad voting’ would be the next step for incels. Aside from that guy who wanted to sell his semen to Chads (crap, now I remember that bit. Ew) there’s no love lost there.

Ohlmann
Ohlmann
1 year ago

Similarly, the most common swear word in french litteraly mean “cunt”, but have been so thoroughly watered down that most people aren’t even aware of its origine. Nowaday it mostly mean “stupid”.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
1 year ago

Berk is a very innocuous and mild insult here; quite affectionate really. Schoolteachers can say it to kids.

Even though it derives from Berkeley Hunt; which is Cockney rhyming slang for that particular word.

Naglfar
Naglfar
1 year ago

@Alan Robertshaw
Yes, that’s the word I was referring to by “its rhyming slang equivalent.”

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
1 year ago

@ naglfar

Ah gotcha.

Oh btw, the horse’s arse discussion is getting very interesting on LinkedIn. Seems it’s quite a specialist topic in the art world!

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

Off topic, but an MRA was murdered

https://www.thedailybeast.com/mens-rights-activist-marc-angelucci-shot-dead-at-his-california-home/?via=twitter_page

So, expect some interesting conspiracy theories from the manosphere in the coming weeks and months.