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Roosh V wishes he were still a virgin. A lot of women wish he were as well.

The 41-year-old wannabe virgin

By David Futrelle

We’ve reached the point in Roosh V’s redemption arc in which we have to hear him complain about all the sex he had back in the day. Roosh, you may recall, used to be a professional “pickup artist” who made his living teaching his extraordinarily problematic, er, techniques; now he’s a newly minted religious fanatic of the Orthodox Christian variety who is trying, in his own terrible way, to make amends for his sinful former life. Trouble is, he’s feeling remorse for the wrong things.

In a recent post on his blog, Roosh declares that he wishes he’d remained a virgin instead of wasting nearly two decades of his life relentlessly pursuing women, sometimes literally. Now he’s given up on sex, including the self-serve variety.

Upon receiving the grace of God, I ceased all sexual activity. I don’t look at porn, or even sexy lingerie images. I don’t masturbate and definitely don’t fornicate. If sexual thoughts attack my mind, I pray to Jesus Christ to take them away, and He does.

His new abstinence applies even during his dreams. When some comely dream lady hits on him during his slumbers, he says, he stays pure (mostly), “usually say[ing] no to the flesh that is offered me.”

How very impressive.

The primary villain in Roosh’s story is lust — a powerful inner force that, he thinks, can transform male virgins and sex-havers alike into angry, bitter misogynists who hate women as much as they desire them. As he puts it:

If you are a virgin in lust, and fail to gain physical pleasure, you will experience tremendous anguish. You will be angry at all the men who are getting laid, and you will also be angry at all the women for not choosing you for sex. You will masturbate to experience the pleasure of the orgasm, and then experience an immediate emotional hangover of having had to masturbate. This is an unbearable state that most men “solve” through prostitution, yet since a prostitute is not what any man truly wants, the pain and anguish intensify.

Actually, only a small minority of men ever turn to sex workers to alleviate their lusts — with only about 1.5 percent of American men visiting a sex worker in any given year.

Even for the sexually active man, the accomplished player, the pain of his lust is transmutated into other forms, such as the simultaneous addiction and hatred of “sluts.”

Most sexually active men don’t turn into raging misogynists. Some of them rather enjoy the sex and have actual warm feelings towards even their casual partners.

Roosh concludes his attack on non-marital sex with a theatrical lament:;

I truly wish I were a virgin. I wish I didn’t learn game and become good at it. I wish I didn’t sleep with all those women, and I’ve prayed to God to not only forgive me for those encounters but to help me forget them. The intimacy I’ve had in the past does not at all serve me in the present. It doesn’t make me feel happier or more masculine. Instead, I feel regret and shame. I can’t stress how the sex I had in my life was in no way an addition. Instead, it was a subtraction, one that occupied most of my free time and intellect while taking my eyes off God.

I feel precisely zero sympathy for poor Roosh and his overwrought laments. Because in his attempt to frame himself as a sort of victim of the sex he willingly engaged in he has somehow overlooked the real victims — the women he pressured and manipulated into bed.

I’m not being facetious here. If you have read any of Roosh’s “fielf reports” in his assorted books and booklets you will notice at once that none of them are descriptions of hot sex and enthusiastic consent. Roosh instead details the assorted tricks he used to navigate often quite drunk women into bed. He treated their “nos” as little more than temporary hurdles to push past. In the case of one woman, Roosh wrote,

It took four hours of foreplay and at least thirty repetitions of “No, Roosh, no” until she allowed my penis to enter her vagina. No means no—until it means yes.

In another case, he reported, his, er, partner was so drunk that

[i]n America, having sex with her would have been rape, since she couldn’t legally give her consent. It didn’t help matters that I was relatively sober, but I can’t say I cared or even hesitated.

In one case when a woman revoked her consent part way through, “I had to use some muscle to prevent her from escaping.”

While not all of Roosh’s “field reports” are direct (if sometimes unintentional) confessions of rape, they all seem to involve trickery, manipulation and in some cases intimidation — and his writings about these, er, conquests never involve even the tiniest smidgen of remorse. (For more details, see here.)

If Roosh wants absolution for his sins, he needs to reckon with what he did to all these women — and do penance for it, preferably by turning himself over to the authorities. A thoroughgoing apology would be a good first step, if only the first step. Somehow I doubt we’ll ever get one.

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Naglfar
Naglfar
7 months ago

Even for the sexually active man, the accomplished player, the pain of his lust is transmutated into other forms, such as the simultaneous addiction and hatred of “sluts.”

Roosh is projecting so hard here. When misogynists talk about what “all other men” think, they’re telling on themselves.

One could maybe give a little benefit of the doubt and think that this is has way to manifesting guilt and remorse for what he did, but then one would remember that he’s Roosh and doesn’t feel guilt and is still an awful person. He does not feel remorse at all.

I can’t tell if Roosh pivoted because he thought he’d get more money as a grifter, or if he did so because he’s having a midlife crisis, or both.

Ohlmann
Ohlmann
7 months ago

I think he might feel remorse for himself, but he certainly don’t feel any remorse for the women he raped. For me, he missed what was problematic ; and as usual for fanatics, he didn’t read the command of his religion all that well.

I remember a lot of jokes about french collaborators confessing or having remorse about their behavior, only to say that they should have betrayed for more money. I feel that the “remorses” of Roosh are entirely based on him feeling he didn’t get enough from it.

Note how pointedly absent are the agenda of women in his post. That’s the most damning part for me.

Tyko
Tyko
7 months ago

My hope is that his dramatics somehow convince some would-be players to leave women alone.

LindsayIrene
LindsayIrene
7 months ago

You will masturbate to experience the pleasure of the orgasm, and then experience an immediate emotional hangover of having had to masturbate.

Not everyone has that problem, Roosh.

Garnetstar
Garnetstar
7 months ago

Well, if Roosh believes that lust is the root of all evil, and he has to fight it off still, let me suggest that he castrate himself.

That would do the trick, and then he could shut up and perhaps turn his thoughts to all the women he wronged. Or, advocate for a society in which all boys are castrated at birth, that would eliminate the problem altogether and lead to the utopia Roosh is looking for.

Good luck to you with your procedure, Roosh, let’s see how that turns out.

Naglfar
Naglfar
7 months ago

@Tyko
It does seem like Roosh’s current state could be a cautionary tale to aspiring PUAs: if you follow that path, you could end up like Roosh in your 40s; unhappy, creepy, and alone. My guess is Roosh probably realized that now that he’s older it will be harder and harder to convince women to sleep with him as he becomes that creepy old man, so he is trying to shift his life to a different misogynistic tack.

@LindsayIrene

Not everyone has that problem, Roosh.

He could be experiencing post-orgasmic illness syndrome. Or it could be psychosomatic from religious guilt.

@Garnetstar

let me suggest that he castrate himself.

Well, there was the Orthodox sect of the Skoptsys, who practiced castration. Maybe he could follow in their footsteps.

Naglfar
Naglfar
7 months ago

O/T: A couple weeks ago, Reddit banned r/GenderCritical, the main TERF hangout, but left some other TERF subs up. They’ve banned most of those left over now, including r/itsafetish and r/LGBDropTheT. Some TERFs are now threatening to sue Reddit, demanding $1,000,000 per woman in a class action suit.

Victorious Parasol
Victorious Parasol
7 months ago

So Roosh now thinks his bang days were a mistake. Agreed. But he’s unsurprisingly focused on what this meant to him, which is consistent with his approach to, well, everything.

I’ll think better of him once he realizes that other people have a right to exist beyond their interactions with him.

OT:

Guess who’s employed again? I start the new job in a month, which gives me time to finish up some fiber arts projects and work on the ol’ watchlist.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
7 months ago

@ Vicky P

Guess who’s employed again? I start the new job in a month, which gives me time to finish up some fiber arts projects

Hooray!!! I am so chuffed for you!

and work on the ol’ watchlist.

Can you let me back on aeroplanes?

Victorious Parasol
Victorious Parasol
7 months ago

@Alan

Chuffed ter naafi breaks?

And far as I’m concerned, you can get on any airplanes you want. But do you really want to fly in a time of corona?

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
7 months ago

Congrats, VP! You are truly victorious this day.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
7 months ago

@ Vicky P

But do you really want to fly in a time of corona?

Well, so long as they don’t adopt my local pub’s policy of only allowing you to drink outside.

Naglfar
Naglfar
7 months ago

@VP

Guess who’s employed again? I start the new job in a month, which gives me time to finish up some fiber arts projects and work on the ol’ watchlist.

Congrats!

Chuffed ter naafi breaks?

I’m not quite sure what this means.

@Alan Robertshaw

Well, so long as they don’t adopt my local pub’s policy of only allowing you to drink outside.

I find the beer goes a bit flat with the pressure at 30,000 feet. And Bernoulli’s principle doesn’t help at 300 knots.

All joking aside, it is actually very difficult to serve tap beer in airliner cabins because most tap systems rely on CO2, which cannot be brought on airplanes, and the pressure changes from takeoff to cruising present additional challenges for the foam. So much so that it made international headlines when KLM became the first airline to serve beer on tap in 2015.

Victorious Parasol
Victorious Parasol
7 months ago

@Naglfar

British Army slang I learned from a squaddie back in the 1990s. It means something like “very pleased.”

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
7 months ago

Hope these embed.

Being Britain; it’s all about tea.

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Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
7 months ago

Been, there, seen that, got the…

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Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
7 months ago

This incident was attested to in a couple of memoirs.

Naglfar
Naglfar
7 months ago

@VP, Alan
Thank you, that makes far more sense.

Miche
Miche
7 months ago

That man has always exuded “terrible in bed” energy.

At least he’s not become a Quiverfull fundie?

Rabid Rabbit
Rabid Rabbit
7 months ago

his writings about these, er, conquests

Honestly, I don’t think that “er” is required. Seeing as conquering generally involves forcing unwilling people to submit to you, it seems like just the right word for his behavior.

As for the NAAFI discussion, it just makes me think of that moment in the Harley Quinn show where Batman mocks Alfred for having been in the British Army with words to the effect of “Oh yeah? What did you ever fight over, who’d get the last cup of tea?” Alfred: “Occasionally, sir, yes.” (I don’t remember the actual dialogue, but it was something like that.)

Crip Dyke
7 months ago

You will masturbate to experience the pleasure of the orgasm, and then experience an immediate emotional hangover of having had to masturbate.

I’m with LindseyIrene: If masturbating makes you unhappy, the problem isn’t that you were willing to masturbate.

@Victorious Parasol:

I’m so happy for you! Hope working the job is even better than hearing the news you got the job.

Lainy
Lainy
7 months ago

…. I think someone hit their wall and now their looking for a nice beta girl to be their beta wife so they can have children, but he’s so used up no one wants his shriveled up, deflated dick anymore. Should have spent his prime years being a good little boy to find a wife and earn money for lots of babies, but instead he used them up being a “player” and now he’s empty and alone.

(I’m sorry I had to, it was to perfect)

happy cat
happy cat
7 months ago

So if you stop having sex, you turn into a great person?

I remember an asexual man who also happened to be a sexist jerk. He didn’t understand why he couldn’t get an asexual girlfriend (because he treated women like dirt, basically). That roosh v sounds like a terrible person.

Talonknife
Talonknife
7 months ago

Why does Roosh look like he’s slowly mutating into the reincarnation of Grigori Rasputin?

opposablethumbs
opposablethumbs
7 months ago

Congratulations on the new job, VP!

Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
7 months ago

[N]ot all of Roosh’s “field reports” are direct (if sometimes unintentional) confessions of rape

In my opinion, every time Roosh confessed to rape, it was intentional. If his readers revel in one description of him raping a woman, they’re going to revel in all of them.

Now he’s given up on sex, including the self-serve variety.

Nah, Roosh will never stop being self-serving.

@Victorious Parasol
All best wishes!

Naglfar
Naglfar
7 months ago

@Lainy

…. I think someone hit their wall and now their looking for a nice beta girl to be their beta wife so they can have children, but he’s so used up no one wants his shriveled up, deflated dick anymore.

And he’s now an old bratwurstie. He should have chosen the sperm, not the shoes, but it’s too late now. All those years riding the vagina carousel with Stacies mean that no woman will ever want him.
I can hear the world’s smallest violin playing.

All joking aside, that does seem to be what happened more or less. He spent all those years having casual sex, yet now that he’s older he finds it harder to hook up with young women, who now see him as a creepy old man. So now he’s scrambling to find a wife and has taken on this orthodox grift as a new way to be misogynistic.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
7 months ago

@ rabid rabbit

Batman mocks Alfred for having been in the British Army with words to the effect of “Oh yeah? What did you ever fight over, who’d get the last cup of tea?”

There’s probably a book to be written about the British Army and its relationship with tea; you’d have plenty of material:

D-Day

On Sword beach, DD tanks landed first, followed by the first regiments of 3rd British Infantry Division, which secured the beach rapidly, but then delayed the advance inwards by stopping to take a tea break (a common British trait that confounded the Canadian and Americans). However, the objective of Caen had not been planned with the same level of detail as the landings, so that this was delayed (though a bombing campaign started in the city at 13.45 hours), and would take over a month to take.

Waal Crossing

There is even a report that one American company commander was so angry about the failure to advance that he actually threatened a British officer with his submachine gun, causing him to close the hatches on his Sherman. Certainly, Tucker said to General Gavin the next morning, “What in the hell are they doing? We’ve been in this position for over 12 hours and all they seem to be doing is brewing tea.” In view of the casualties his regiment had suffered securing the north bank of the Waal, his anger would seem to be justified.

Arnhem

Nevertheless, there is the question of the British sitting around and drinking tea rather than trying to help their comrades at Arnhem. A slightly different take on this is provided by an American soldier. Whilst no progress could be made by the troops of either country, the Americans simply did “nothing constructive”. The British, on the other hand, produced a football and organised a game of soccer amongst the tank crews – a far more constructive use of the time.

I think that last passage provides the context though. Brewing up can be both a morale booster; and a worthwhile exercise if there’s nothing else to do. To quote from the video clip: “Couldn’t hurt Sir”.

Hence all British Army armoured vehicles have built in tea making facilities.

https://www.wearethemighty.com/articles/this-is-why-every-armored-vehicle-has-british-tea-making-gear

Viscaria
Viscaria
7 months ago

@VP

Guess who’s employed again? I start the new job in a month, which gives me time to finish up some fiber arts projects and work on the ol’ watchlist.

Congratulations on the new job!

May I ask about the fiber arts you enjoy and are working on? I myself am working on a big cross stitch as a wedding gift for a friend right now. I’m very glad the wedding isn’t until summer 2021 because I started it in February and I’m a little less than halfway through. O_O

Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
7 months ago

@Naglfar

All joking aside, that does seem to be what happened more or less. He spent all those years having casual sex, yet now that he’s older he finds it harder to hook up with young women, who now see him as a creepy old man. So now he’s scrambling to find a wife and has taken on this orthodox grift as a new way to be misogynistic.

And after he spent all those years crowing about men aging like Chateau de George Clooney, and warning women not to waste their fleeting youth riding the cock carousel. As usual, it’s pure projection with these guys.

Roosh 2.0 isn’t an improvement over Roosh 1.0. He’s still the same tightly wound misogynistic scold he always was. All he’s done is go from viewing women as prey to viewing women as obstacles to spiritual attainment, which is a very short and undemanding moral journey. Nothing original or special about it. It’s just a different way of being awful towards women, only with Biblical Authority™ behind it.

If he were truly enlightened, and not just a fraudulent, self-absorbed hustler, he would feel remorse over the damage he did to the women he targeted, manipulated, and raped. But no, as usual he’s focused on himself as the victim. All those conquests didn’t do HIM any good and didn’t make HIS life any better and didn’t reward HIM with a wife and family. I think he’s angry that he fell for his own lies.

At least he’s not bothering women any more, so that’s a plus?!

Victorious Parasol
Victorious Parasol
7 months ago

@Viscaria

Thanks! Currently I have a spinning project going – almost done with the last bobbin of singles, and then I can ply everything together. The fiber was blended by me; I dyed the Shetland Sliver myself, mixing it with milk protein and silk waste. I’m spinning it semi-worsted, and it’ll be a 2-ply yarn of about DK weight.

The other two main projects are knitting WIPs. One of them is a placemat for Mr. Parasol’s sister and her husband, and the other is a lace scarf. I keep changing my mind about who the scarf is for.

Naglfar
Naglfar
7 months ago

@Buttercup

I think he’s angry that he fell for his own lies.

This seems to be the case for many conservatives. They repeat lies until they believe them, then when those lies start negatively impacting them they get angry but instead of being angry at the party that lied to them, they blame it all on various scapegoats so they can keep voting for the people who got them into the mess.

Ohlmann
Ohlmann
7 months ago

@Naglfar : when a human is being foolish, he or she will do a lot of efforts to not admit it, either by doubling down on his previous attitude, or by finding a scapegoat.

Providing an escape hatch allowing thoses fools to keep their face can help them quit, but it don’t alway work. Pride is sadly a very big problem in general, and with thoses kind of fool in particular.

Jesalin, Goddess of Lust & Pleasure
Jesalin, Goddess of Lust & Pleasure
7 months ago

@VP

CONGRATS!!

@Naglfar

I think that just goes to show that as much as it’s about hate, it’s also about the grift.

Moon Custafer
Moon Custafer
7 months ago

@VP:

The fiber was blended by me; I dyed the Shetland Sliver myself, mixing it with milk protein and silk waste.

Ooooh

Demonhype
Demonhype
7 months ago

@Garnetstar

Castration to prevent lust? I believe there was something in the Bible about how you should cut off your hand or pluck out your eye if it offends you (ie: if you can’t stop using them to “sin”). I think it was Jesus who said that too, curious be wrong–too lazy to to fix our right now.

Catalpa
Catalpa
7 months ago

I believe there was something in the Bible about how you should cut off your hand or pluck out your eye if it offends you (ie: if you can’t stop using them to “sin”). I think it was Jesus who said that too, curious be wrong–too lazy to to fix our right now

Yep, that was what Jesus said. Matthew 5:30

Rabid Rabbit
Rabid Rabbit
7 months ago

@alan:

Well, according to Asterix, Julius Caesar was unable to conquer Britain until he realized that all he had to do was attack only on weekends at 4:00 in the afternoon…

Viscaria
Viscaria
7 months ago

Currently I have a spinning project going – almost done with the last bobbin of singles, and then I can ply everything together. The fiber was blended by me; I dyed the Shetland Sliver myself, mixing it with milk protein and silk waste. I’m spinning it semi-worsted, and it’ll be a 2-ply yarn of about DK weight.

That is so neat. I’ve never done anything like that.

Victorious Parasol
Victorious Parasol
7 months ago

@ all fiber artists

My blending board is an indie I bought on Etsy, but it looks a lot like the Ashford blending board, and this video is a great demo of how blending works:

Bookworm in hijab
Bookworm in hijab
7 months ago

@VP, congrats and also your fiber arts sound ah-maze-ing!!! I can sew but that’s it; I am always so impressed by knitters, spinners, crocheters (I think that last one may not be a word, but you know what I mean…) 😁

Naglfar
Naglfar
7 months ago

O/T: Following the banning of more of their subreddits, TERFs have taken to Twitter to rant about cis women’s exclusive sex-based right to…get cervical cancer. They don’t seem to give a fuck about people who actually have cervical cancer, but they are very happy to weaponize them for transphobia. Sort of like that time MRAs pretended to care about prostate cancer.

Surplus to Requirements, Observer of the Vast Blight-Wing Enstupidation
Surplus to Requirements, Observer of the Vast Blight-Wing Enstupidation
7 months ago

So who’s going to break the news to them that trans men can get it too?

Naglfar
Naglfar
7 months ago

@Surplus
The point of the TERFs doing this seems to have mainly been to invalidate trans* men and AFAB non binary people. So I think they know, they’re just being assholes as usual.

Yutolia the Laissez-Fairy Pronoun Boner
Yutolia the Laissez-Fairy Pronoun Boner
7 months ago

Ok, since this has been fairly icky (it is Roosh) I’m putting up some new pet brain bleach.

I got pet mice! They are the coolest and cutest and most distracting little guys ever!!

This is Philo

View post on imgur.com

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And this is Gunge

View post on imgur.com

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And yes I am a big Fraggle Rock fan.

I’m having trouble getting the images to show still but that might be the inebriated state I’m in, we’ll see tomorrow.

Ariblester
7 months ago

Yutolia the Laissez-Fairy Pronoun Boner wrote on
July 11, 2020 at 11:40 pm:
I’m having trouble getting the images to show still but that might be the inebriated state I’m in, we’ll see tomorrow.

Image embeds require that the URL starts with “http://“, because this site is still using HTTP (as opposed to HTTPS).

http://imgur.com/8eUFXj4

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
7 months ago

Awww!!!

Hello Philo and Gunge!

Naglfar
Naglfar
7 months ago

@Yutolia
They’re so cute!

As for the embed, you’ll want to make sure the URL is in full (including the https:// bit, and make sure the text is directly to the image file.

Victorious Parasol
Victorious Parasol
7 months ago

@Yutolia

Ariblester
7 months ago

Don’t mind me, I’m just testing Imgur embeds.

https://imgur.com/8eUFXj4

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