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The best responses to Stefan Molyneux getting banned from Twitter

By David Futrelle

Last week, we celebrated Stefan Molyneux’s YouTube ban. Now the wannabe philosopher racist has managed to get himself banned from Twitter as well, reportedly not for anything he said but rather for “platform manipulation,” specifically fake sockpuppet accounts.

I don’t have much to say beyond “good riddance,” but others have been posting their responses to his banning on Twitter. So today I’m going to go all Twitchy and show you some of my favorites.

Let’s start with the eggs — referring back to Stefan’s weird and creepy obsession with young women’s eggs, particularly those belonging to Taylor Swift.

https://twitter.com/mercfromthesout/status/1280681078961983489

There were some who took a moment to remind us of some of Stefan’s Greatest Hits.

But it’s this tweet that may be Stefan’s real masterpiece:

I have so many questions. Why is the shoe so small? Why don’t the shoe and the egg cast shadows? And most importantly, WHY ISN’T HE WEARING A SHIRT.

For more of Stefan’s Greatest Hits, on Twitter and elsewhere, see the links here.

Good night, sweet prince. Go work your grift on Telegram.

H/T — @RationalGenius, from whom I borrowed the “cult leader banned” meme,

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Snowberry
Snowberry
2 months ago

@Naglfar: The UK does have an extradition treaty with the *US*, though. So does nearly all of Europe. He’d have to skate on all Federal charges at the very minimum to be safe in Scotland; I don’t know how it works on State charges.

Amtep
Amtep
2 months ago

I think Trump is most likely to flee to Russia, where he will find out what happens to people who are no longer useful to Putin.

Naglfar
Naglfar
2 months ago

@Snowberry, Threp
I’m not sure if federal charges will be pressed, seeing as I get the feeling Biden will not want to press charges for some naïve reason about “forgiveness” or the like. As for the state-level charges, I don’t know how extradition works for those. The state most likely to try to nail him with charges is New York, seeing as it’s a blue state where he has lots of property he probably didn’t pay taxes on.

Lumipuna
Lumipuna
2 months ago

I’m not saying he will get what he deserves, but he’s already not getting what he wants, and it’s driving him up the wall.

… big, beautiful wall that the world’s best mountaineers couldn’t climb.

Naglfar
Naglfar
2 months ago

O/T: More TERF hypocrisy ensues, as JK Rowling and some other high profile bigots (and a few non bigots who claim they didn’t know what it was) have signed an open letter in Harper’s Magazine condemning “cancel culture” and complaining that they got pushback for bigoted view. Shortly after, Jennifer F. Boylan, the only trans* signatory, realized what it was and apologized, and JK attempted to send harassment her way and “cancel” her despite the letter ostensibly being anti-harassment and anti-“canceling”.

Lukas Xavier
Lukas Xavier
2 months ago

On the subject of “cancel culture”, can anyone explain to me what the fuck that even means? People seem to use the term for actions ranging from “publicly stating disagreement” to “sending death threats”.

Is it more than a buzz word? If so, what does it mean?

Dalillama
Dalillama
2 months ago

It means calling bigots on their bullshit and proposing that they should be socially marginalized because they’re scum.

Naglfar
Naglfar
2 months ago

@Lukas Xavier
It used to be called holding people accountable for their actions, but now is what (mostly) right wingers allege is happening when they get called out on their bigotry or find real world consequences.

The thing about it is, nobody seems to stay “canceled.” Pretty much everyone who gets “canceled” gets to keep producing media and often uses it as an opportunity to boost their profile by going on podcasts and television or publishing books about how they’ve been “silenced.”

Snowberry
Snowberry
2 months ago

My experience with “cancel culture” is extremely limited, but it seems that ideally it would consist of convincing third parties to deplatform them, and convincing their fans to abandon them en masse. Though generally, unless they’re not well known to begin with, or really egregious to “respectable people” to the point where it doesn’t actually take that much convincing, this isn’t nearly as effective as cancelers would hope. In addition, this nearly always comes with a side of harassment, both to them and people connected to them and occasional third parties with only tenuous or indirect connection. And even *if* it works, if they have a lot of resources, they can usually bounce back.

Canceling is all but useless at dealing with highly-problematic but “respectable”, well-off, cis-hetero white men, but on the other end of the scale, if you want to take out moderately-problematic but “unrespectable”, lower class, LBTQ+, woman of color, and you don’t care about the considerable splash damage, it’s a great tool. Or so it seems, again, in my fairly limited experience. While it does serve the function of giving the normally voiceless a sense of empowerment, so does (for example) scapegoating Jews. At present I’m highly skeptical that it does more good than harm.

Naglfar
Naglfar
2 months ago

@Snowberry
In my experience, the main people I’ve seen complain about being canceled were white cishet men who didn’t take any permanent damage from it. I’m sure it is worse for smaller actors, but I see far fewer of them complaining about it. I don’t approve of harassment targeted at people, but I do find it very hypocritical when conservatives complain about the left “canceling” people when conservatives do far worse to many people for minor reasons. For every leftist who stopped watching ContraPoints because she’s a transmedicalist, there are a hundred conservatives who burned Dixie Chicks CDs when the band opposed the war in Iraq.

Snowberry
Snowberry
2 months ago

(I should add that I meant “my direct experience is extremely limited”. I do have some significant secondhand experience, but that’s not the same thing.)

Hypatia's Daughter
Hypatia's Daughter
2 months ago

Naglfar
That Harper’s letter is such a shitburger. Posted on PZ”s blog:
href=”https://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2020/07/08/weaponized-ambiguity/” rel=”nofollow ugc”

I am embarrassed for many of the signatories who signed it.
If your life’s blood is the meaning & precision of the written & spoken word, WHY, oh, WHY, would you ever sign such such a vague, half-assed, mealy mouthed document?
Airy, feel good statements like this are nothing but a right-wing PR tactic to get naive libs to sign onto their agenda to repress dissent against the status quo. And these “smart” schmucks bought it!
(The Discovery Institute did the same thing in 2001 with their “”A Scientific Dissent from Darwinism”” statement. One hundred “scientists” signed a statement, many without knowing its source, vaguely calling for “open-minded inquiry into competing biological theories”. Well, of course, scientists should be open minded!
Then they were Shocked! Shocked! I tell you, that their signatures were used to claim that hundreds of scientists not only knew that evolution was a lie, but that Creationism was true. Because that’s how the lyin’ Right rolls.)

Snowberry
Snowberry
2 months ago

@Naglfar

For every leftist who stopped watching ContraPoints because she’s a transmedicalist,

Not much of an improvement, because Natalie “Contrapoints” Wynn isn’t even a transmedicalist; she just refused to denounce Buck Angel, someone who she has (fairly limited) ties to, for being transmedicalist. Making excuses for him in response was kind of dumb, but even so, they’re still off-base here.

Katherine the Adequate
Katherine the Adequate
2 months ago

I love a good pair of red pumps, and I love omelettes, especially filled with spinach and herbs. Yum. Molyneux does *not* rock that leather jacket, either. He needs a sensible collared t-shirt, poly blend slacks and some golf shoes at his age, or whatever’s appropriate for misogynistic, racist cranks.

Naglfar
Naglfar
2 months ago

@Snowberry
She did more than refuse to condemn Buck. She made a 2 hour video bashing non-binary people for the whole thing, defended Buck’s history of domestic abuse, and declared that her trans* critics are actually Nazis in disguise. A good breakdown of her video can be found here:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=bCOq9BcRh54

And that’s before even getting into the other evidence of her being a transmedicalist and enbyphobic, like her videos on The Aesthetic and Transtrenders. Or her internalized transphobia in the video on Shame. Or her anti-autistic bigotry in her video on Cringe. In short, she is a rather problematic person.

Catalpa
Catalpa
2 months ago

Off-topic, but this came across my timeline and made me giggle, so I thought I’d share.
https://mobile.twitter.com/am_Dino_rawr/status/1281240361726291969

(It’s a Ven diagram with one circle labeled “incel” and the other circle labeled “excel”, with the middle bit labeled “incorrectly assuming something is a date”. Couldn’t figure out how to embed the image.)

Naglfar
Naglfar
2 months ago

@Catalpa
Here’s the image embed:comment image

@everyone
Sorry if my last comment had too harsh a tone, I was writing it in a hurry because I had a video call to get on, reading it back now it sounds a bit terse. This was not my intent, apologies. Although I do think ContraPoints is a problematic content creator, I did not mean to be overly brusque in my comment.

Catalpa
Catalpa
2 months ago

@Naglfar
Much obliged!

Snowberry
Snowberry
2 months ago

Eeurg, I’m going to have to do research on a few issues which I admittedly have some knowledge gaps, watch a bunch of Contrapoints criticism videos, re-watch the most essential Contrapoints videos, maybe watch a few defenders as well, and take notes to make sure there’s no out-of-context-and-chronological-order Obama Time Machine Plot going on. And possibly be disappointed to find the real issue is “talking to the ignorant/uninitiated at a level they can comprehend rather than using ‘proper’ terminology and framing which they can’t yet make sense of” like I’ve gotten crap for doing in the past, or mistaking problematic characters who are supposed to show *why* the views they espouse are problematic for the actor’s actual views. Or maybe it’s legit and most of her fans never heard about anything except the Buck Angel thing (and based on her channel’s comments, it appears a lot of them never even heard *that* much until she made a video about it).

I’m not doing that right now. I need to spend the next few days helping someone move. For a future ‘project’, maybe.

Naglfar
Naglfar
2 months ago

@Snowberry
I’m sorry. I don’t mean to make you feel that you have to do a ton of research or anything like that. What I meant to do previously was point out the issues with Natalie from my perspective, with some sourced video essays that I thought summed up the issues for anyone interested. I didn’t mean to suggest you have to watch them or do a deep dive into her history. I admit I had a bit of a knee jerk reaction because I’ve already had several arguments on here about Natalie and Buck and wanted to pre empt another. I apologize.

numerobis
numerobis
2 months ago

@Catalpa, @Naglfr, I am inordinately amused.

Possibly that’s because I’m a SRSBZNS software developer reduced to coding up spreadsheets in my pointy-haired days.

Also it’s stupidly hot and I drank a small glass of wine.

Snowberry
Snowberry
2 months ago

@Naglfar:
No big. I do deep dives occasionally. Thing is, it appears that Natalie is really popular and hasn’t noticeably lost any popularity, I don’t see any serious problems with her channel (there are some things which would seem badly framed from a deep-end SJW perspective, but this channel is aimed at people on the shallow end and those not quite at the water, and they wouldn’t always get things otherwise), but I do note that there are a few “Natalie is terrible” people here and elsewhere who seem to be in a bubble which I have no awareness of. It might be interesting or useful to know what’s going on and why; I do make some effort to learn about what things are like outside the few bubbles I personally occupy.

I mean, I’m on *this* site so I can get a taste of various bubbles in the misgynosphere. I have done a few closer looks personally (mostly not the same ones David looks at) because seeing it curated isn’t the same as seeing it raw… but honestly, even what I see on WHTM is a bit corrosive to my mental health. I also occasionally lurk in several communities which I’m not meaningfully a part of, and even check out conservative news sources (intellectually I don’t regret that; emotionally I do) because being limited only to the tiny slice of reality which contains my comfort zone just isn’t my thing.

That doesn’t mean that I will, which is why I said “maybe later” – only that based on what I currently know, I suspect a shallow dive won’t actually do anything other than muddy the waters, and won’t let me pinpoint the bubble(s) involved which I can’t yet see.

[Edit] The “eeurg” was an expression of “kind of want to, kind of can’t” not disgust. Sorry.

Naglfar
Naglfar
2 months ago

@Snowberry
If you do in the future want to look into different perspectives on Natalie, the videos I linked above from Essence of Thought are a decent place to start from, and they also have works cited lists that contain further resources. Again, no obligation, you decide what works for you.

Lumipuna
Lumipuna
2 months ago

incorrectly assuming something is a date

Speaking of which, is there a way to get around this in Excel? I’ve tried randomly turning off settings for automatic language correction etc.

Threp (formerly Shadowplay)

@Snowberry

Chrisiousity has a pretty fair video about the whole cancel culture thing as applies to contrapoints. (I like chrisiousity, as much as I like any video – she doesn’t take 20 minutes to get to the damned point). It’s the top vid on her channel when you search contrapoints.

— skippable happiness —

A completely OT thing that has had me buzzing all night – was messing with the guitar after being reminded of the song La Seine et Moi, and the missus started singing along in the kitchen.
She almost never sings, despite having a wonderful voice and almost constant music in the house. Her Grandmother beat that out of her half a century or so back.

So – buzzed as hell. Still on twitter break, but I had to be happy about it somewhere! 🙂

If you don’t know the song, it’s by Vanessa Paradis and is from the movie A Monster in Paris. Warning – it’s an earworm, and the movie is wonderful.

Ariblester
2 months ago

Re: cancel culture, here’s a piece on its many facets in terms of teen culture when applied to people who are not necessarily celebrities:
Tales From the Teenage Cancel Culture

(I know, I know, it’s from the New York Times, which is centrist to a fault, but I still think it’s worth a read.)

Ariblester
2 months ago

Lumipuna wrote on
July 9, 2020 at 10:51 pm:

incorrectly assuming something is a date

Speaking of which, is there a way to get around this in Excel? I’ve tried randomly turning off settings for automatic language correction etc.

Format Cell > Number is how I usually do it, though Microsoft also has these other suggestions:

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/stop-automatically-changing-numbers-to-dates-452bd2db-cc96-47d1-81e4-72cec11c4ed8

Perry
Perry
2 months ago

Cancel culture absolutely exists. The discourse around it gets really hairy because of 1) how it gets disproportionately weaponized against certain people and political tendencies (read: liberals and leftists alike) and 2) the connotation of the term is pretty overwhelmingly negative, so even people who support it will deny it’s existence as a shorthand for rejecting the idea that it’s a problem and 3) the reality is that a lot of people mean on the internet because oftentimes it isn’t really structured to encourage productive discourse. How much of that can we really attribute to some sort of inherent moral failing of people today?

Its most base form is when a group of people publicly shun/exile someone who differs from their views/code of conduct, rather than tolerating/engaging with the dissent. I mean this definition in the most objective way possible, because I don’t think people are under any inherent obligation to tolerate all opinions or behaviors. Every political tendency and social group has certain boundaries they don’t want crossed, despite some very persistent “free speech warrior” posturing from some

But the realities of cancel culture can span from very powerful asshole getting a lot of criticism and none of it sticking, to person getting fired and harassed off of the internet for a genuinely ignorant offhand comment. I don’t think it serves anyone to ignore either of those.

Personally I feel like whether or not you should embrace “cancel culture” really depends on what you want to achieve and where. For example, if you’re on twitter and a popular artist says some homophobic shit when all you wanted to do was have a comfortable space for queer people, then it makes sense to (attempt) to cancel them. Conversely, political organizing in general can’t really be about safe spaces because your goal is to recruit/convert as many people as possible. If you choose to engage in political advocacy, I think you should try your best to engage with bad ideas, or at least encourage your allies to do so if you don’t feel equipped. It’s also always better to take an educational approach than a punitive one.

That being said, I definitely support the deplatforming of very popular thought leaders on the right. Rather than banking on Stefan Molyneux changing his ways, it’s strategically more important that his followers and would-be followers are now cut off. Large groups of regular people are who matter in the long run.

Lumipuna
Lumipuna
2 months ago

Ariblester – Thanks, I’ll try that.

Surplus to Requirements, Observer of the Vast Blight-Wing Enstupidation
Surplus to Requirements, Observer of the Vast Blight-Wing Enstupidation
2 months ago
Naglfar
Naglfar
2 months ago

@Perry

If you choose to engage in political advocacy, I think you should try your best to engage with bad ideas, or at least encourage your allies to do so if you don’t feel equipped. It’s also always better to take an educational approach than a punitive one.

I have mixed feelings about this. On the one hand, I do think people can learn and change and stop being ignorant or bigoted, and I do think it is possible to educate people. On the other hand, many refuse to learn and if corrected will just keep doubling down, and when they have a very powerful platform that can be very harmful.

Take JK Rowling as an example. She has 14.3 million Twitter followers and is a billionaire. Many people have tried to explain to her the error of her way, but she refuses to listen and keeps doubling down in her transphobia (with occasional other bigotries). Therefore, it seems advantageous to do what we can to deplatform her and reduce her power to limit the spread of her ideas. I do not mean that people should harass her or her fans online, but what I mean is that people should point out to others that she is a bigot so others can make an informed choice about buying her books or following her. In other words, if one can not educate the person in question, they can educate others to make an informed choice about whether to buy/support/follow.

My main objection to the term “cancel culture” isn’t the idea itself, it’s that I find it hypocritical when the right wing complains about it when they “cancel” people all the time for minor slights yet acts like the left is doing something horrible when they decide not to support someone or to deplatform somehow who is hateful.

varalys the dark
2 months ago

Margaret Atwood spoke up for trans people and the TERFs are unironically calling her a handmaiden on twitter. We really are in the dumbest timeline.

Naglfar
Naglfar
2 months ago

@Varalys the dark
The other day I also saw that one linked her the Cliffnotes for the Handmaid’s Tale. It reminds me of that time MRAs tried to ‘splain it to her.

The weird part about calling cis women who support trans* rights “handmaidens” is that a) the handmaids are the ones who rebel against society, it’s the aunts that are the villains (and which seem very reminiscent of TERFs) and b) the book calls the women “handmaids,” so I’m curious whether TERFs have ever read it or where they got the “-en” from

Catalpa
Catalpa
2 months ago

the book calls the women “handmaids,” so I’m curious whether TERFs have ever read it or where they got the “-en” from

I expect that TERFs have about the same amount of understanding of The Handmaid’s Tale as MGTOWs have of The Matrix. They just want to co-opt the bare aesthetics of the work (‘women being oppressed and endangered’ and ‘the world is not as the masses see it and only a few look beyond the surface’ respectively) for their own agenda without engaging with the actual themes or the intent of the creator(s).

Anonymous
Anonymous
2 months ago

Re: the Harper’s letter:

I noticed that it was worded in such a way that it would look like a vague, unobjectionable endorsement of free speech and open discussion, which probably explains why they somehow got people like Noam Chomsky and Gloria Steinem to sign it. At least a few others have since distanced themselves from the letter after realizing their mistake, so we have that.

Perry
Perry
2 months ago

@Naglfar

I pretty much agree with you. When I say “you should try to engage as a general rule”, I recognize that it can only go so far. JK Rowling won’t change, so there isn’t much to be gained from appealing to her directly. But I do think it’s necessary for people to make articles, videos, etc. dissecting her transphobia, which leaves a door open for her fans to learn. And yeah, tell people who may not know that she’s a transphobe.

I also agree that the term cancel culture is very nebulous, which lends it to being used in slanted, dishonest ways. That so many things fall under one umbrella is pretty frustrating for me,) as someone who thinks some aspects of it are very important to address, and others not so much.

@Varalys the dark

Reactionaries can’t even pretend to keep their “free and open debate” masks on for more than a day. I don’t see how this is any better than what Rowling was complaining about was happening to her. I wonder if some of the more reasonable people who signed that letter are questioning their bedfellows at the moment.

Jenora Feuer
Jenora Feuer
2 months ago

@Lukas Xavier, Naglfar, Snowberry, etc.:
Slacktivist just did a post entitled ‘Canceled’ = ‘disgraced’ where he describes ‘cancel culture’ as pretty much ‘that thing that the people in power complain about when they’re actually being held accountable for their behaviour’, using R. Kelly as an example:

Kelly has become a prime example of what The Powers That Be have now christened “cancel culture” and they are deeply saddened and concerned about this supposedly new phenomenon. This term — “cancel culture” — has become the latest mandatory hot topic for the pundit class and they want you to know that it’s the latest New Thing about which they are worried and concerned with a full-blown case of the vapors.

The fact that there is not actually any such thing as “cancel culture” hasn’t lessened pundits’ enthusiasm for penning endless iterations of their nearly identical condemnations of it. Nor has the unanimity of these condemnations stopped such pundits from pretending that what they’re really concerned about is protecting “dissent.” And the ease with which these pundits are able to publish their views on multiple, lucrative, prestigious platforms also hasn’t stopped them from posturing as somehow being threatened and sidelined and oppressed by this nefarious, but imaginary, thing called “cancel culture.”

So let’s be clear. R. Kelly is not a victim of cancel culture. R. Kelly disgraced himself. He brought disgrace upon himself and upon his music by engaging in harmful, predatory sexual behavior toward children. As a consequence of his own actions, he is now “canceled.”

This is what “canceled” means. It means “disgraced.” Nothing more, nothing less. And disgrace is not a New Thing. It is as old as Cain. It is not a trend, or a hot topic requiring trendy hot takes. It is no more or less a matter of concern or worry or consternation than it has ever been.

Naglfar
Naglfar
2 months ago

@Catalpa
That’s a good comparison. In the cases of both The Matrix and The Handmaid’s Tale, the authors have condemned the bigot interpretations yet bigots refuse to listen and try to ‘splain their own work to them (see: that time some MRAs tried to mansplain The Matrix to Lilly Wachowski).
I’d guess more MRAs have watched The Matrix than TERFs have read The Handmaid’s Tale, mainly because it’s easier to watch a 2 hour film than to read a 300 page novel. Still, the point stands that they totally missed the point.

@Anonymous

I noticed that it was worded in such a way that it would look like a vague, unobjectionable endorsement of free speech and open discussion, which probably explains why they somehow got people like Noam Chomsky and Gloria Steinem to sign it.

Yes, this is a common tactic of bigots of all sorts to word manifestos vaguely with all kinds of dogwhistles. This has 2 effects:
1. It means people can sign it without knowing what it actually means and so they get more signatures.
2. It means most observers won’t notice the dogwhistles and as a result those who call it out look like they’re seeing what isn’t there and can be dismissed.

@Perry

But I do think it’s necessary for people to make articles, videos, etc. dissecting her transphobia, which leaves a door open for her fans to learn.

Definitely. A silver lining to JK’s rapid descent has been that she has aired all the transphobic dogwhistles and many people have published threads and articles breaking them down. She showed her hand, and now far more people can see through her bluffing. She’s also lost over 300,000 followers since May, which suggests most people don’t agree with her. As well, a lot of people and groups that had been silent about trans* rights before have spoken up against her, so that’s something.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
2 months ago

Bit O/T; but the RCA have a webinar coming up that may be of interest to some folks here.

Join this interactive workshop exploring how we think about neurodiversity and how we can look after our mental wellbeing during lockdown.

Professor Amanda Kirby is, in her own words, “a bit unusual”. She is a medic, academic, entrepreneur and parent of an adult with Dyspraxia, Dyslexia, and ADHD. She is passionate about improving the lives of people who are neurodiverse in education and employment. She has founded and plays a key role in many organisations devoted to supporting neurodiverse communities and individuals.

Amanda’s interactive workshop will help us understand how neurodiverse individuals have been impacted in lockdown and provide us all with tools to help us manage our wellbeing.

This workshop is brought to you by the Neurodiversity in Albertopolis Network. Everyone is welcome – come along and explore a different perspective.

https://www.rca.ac.uk/news-and-events/events/buckets-balls-amanda-kirby/

Kereea
Kereea
2 months ago

Could I not choose the shoe and then hit him with it in order to get the egg?

Lainy
Lainy
2 months ago

I’m still really disappointed about jk . I know harry potter has problematic shit in it. But harry potter started coming out before I was born. I grew up with it. There has never been a time in my life, where there hasn’t been harry potter. And harry potter helped me escape from a very lonely childhood so it will probably always hold a special place in my heart because of that. Same as will the X-Men and dear America book series. It’s one of those stories that started to shape me as a child, and I can’t express the disappointment that the person who created something that releived a lot of my pain, could actively inflict pain onto other people.

Naglfar
Naglfar
2 months ago

@Lainy
I especially find it sad because a lot of the people I know who loved Harry Potter are LGBT. I can understand why so many LGBT people liked it: it’s a book series about a boy who lives in a literal closet but his life gets better when he comes out as who he truly is and finds friends like him. For JK to be able to write that and then be the hateful person she is saddens me.

I really liked these bits of fan art about that aspect:
https://twitter.com/MelodyDickens/status/1278275247800795137

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

But harry potter started coming out before I was born.

This sentence made me feel a certain type of way

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Lainy
Lainy
2 months ago

@Naglfar
Yeah, for me, I was different then the other kids in my tiny town. I was bi and I didn’t know yet because I didn’t know what bi was. I was also just kind of a weird kid and I didn’t understand social ques all that well. I grew up on a farm in the middle no where with no neighbors or kids around, I didn’t have many friends, and my parents left me alone a lot when they had to work. So the idea of getting sent a letter and going to a school with people who were different and like you, and being surrounded by other people, sharing bedrooms with them, having a castle full of people. That was so comforting to me. Same with the X-Men, kids who didn’t fit in going to a big machine to learn about themselves and be surrounded by people who care about them. Those were very comforting stories. Ones I don’t need as an adult now, but they live in a special place.

@WWTH
Lol, the first book came out in 1997, I was born in 1998. Then the first movie came out in 2001 When I was like 3. I remember seeing the first half of deathly hallows when I was 11 years old in threaters, and that was the first of the movies I was able to see in the theater.

Naglfar
Naglfar
2 months ago

@Lainy

I was also just kind of a weird kid and I didn’t understand social ques all that well.

I can totally relate to this. Although I grew up in a city, I was also a social outcast, as I was very nerdy and socially awkward. I liked reading fantasy and science fiction novels because they helped me dissociate from reality.

Surplus to Requirements, Observer of the Vast Blight-Wing Enstupidation
Surplus to Requirements, Observer of the Vast Blight-Wing Enstupidation
2 months ago

@Alan Robertshaw:

Bit O/T; but the RCA have a webinar coming up that may be of interest to some folks here.

RCA … aren’t they an old manufacturer of VCRs and TVs whose heyday was back in the 1980s or so?

Naglfar
Naglfar
2 months ago

@Surplus
In the UK it stands for the Royal College of Arts.

Jenora Feuer
Jenora Feuer
2 months ago

Whereas the VCR manufacturer RCA stood for Radio Corporation of America.

Amusingly, due to RCA buying the old Victor Talking Machine Company for their phonograph department, they acquired the American rights to their famous mascot as well… the mascot being the little dog Nipper looking into a phonograph horn, in a picture originally called ‘His Master’s Voice’… which also lent its name to the English and Canadian chain of record stores called HMV. (Which recently got bought out by the Canadian chain Sunrise Records after going bankrupt again.)

I’m sure somebody could do a long dissertation on the complexity and shuttling about of trademarks in the music industry without even touching the bands…

Moon Custafer
Moon Custafer
2 months ago

Whenever I see a smooth-coated terrier in a post-surgical cone, I think it looks like the RCA Victor dog got stuck in the phonograph.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
2 months ago

I recall that ‘JVC’ stood for Japanese Victor Company. Is that related?

@ jenora

I’m sure somebody could do a long dissertation on the complexity and shuttling about of trademarks in the music industry without even touching the bands…

There was quite a lot of fallout when Apple brought out iTunes. The Beatles had trademarked ‘Apple’ in relation to music related categories. That’s why you couldn’t get any Beatles stuff on iTunes for a while. Even though the Beatles back catalogue was owned by Michael Jackson. It all got a bit messy.