By David Futrelle
Seems I wasn’t the only person to take note of the Daily Stormer’s growing excitement over sexbots and artificial wombs, which the Stormers think will render real human women obsolete and help to solve “our white reproduction problem.”
Over on Incels.co, one prolific commenter called Sparrow’s Song posted a link to the Stormer article about sexbots I wrote about yesterday, declaring that “the Daily Stormer is on our side.”
“It seems like this time around, the Nazis are trying to save the untermensch instead of dispose of them like femasites [women] want,” he wrote.
This is ideal, I cannot love a foid and a foid cannot love me, a waifubot is more human and worthy than a fembeast unclean animal.
Somehow I suspect that those “waifubots” would get pretty unclean pretty quickly, but never mind.
Add ectogenesis to fun, or as I like to call them, Uberwombs, and not only will every man have a reason to live and finally have their reproductive human rights recognized, but men would also never have to breed with genetically subhuman landwhales who produce deformed incel sons who rope.
English translation: Add artificial wombs to the mix and men will be able to pass their genes onto the next generation without having to have procreative sex with “genetically subhuman” fat women who would give birth to ugly male children destined to become incels and kill themselves.
Foids have nothing to complain about, they can turn their chad harems into physical dwelling places and have their animalistic, heartless, barbaric, and hateful blood orgies of death and bullying among themselves and their chads.
How do you change a “harem” of Chads into a building? What is this dude even talking about?
Ugly and fat foids can get chadbots and artificial creampie procedures, they have nothing to complain about it. This technology isn’t misogynistic, this technology is MERCIFUL GRACE.
Now, there are certainly many commenters on Incels.co who are sympathetic to white nationalism and the rabid antisemitism that comes along with it, but most of those in the comments took issue with Sparrow’s Song’s new enthusiasm for the Daily Stormer. For some, the Nazis are simply normie “cucks” who worship white women (though this is clearly not the case with the highly misogynistic Daily Stormer crew). Other incels, many of them not themselves white, are less than thrilled by Nazi racism.
But one commenter called turbocuckcel_7000, another prolific poster who, like Sparrow’s Song, has more than 12,000 comments to his name, sees some sort of alliance with the Stormer crew as both inevitable and good. While he dismisses the “older patriotic types” in the far-right milieu who are “very proud of their achievements in finding a wife and … lionize their daughters,” he’s enthusiastic about the
men on the younger side like those staffing the Dailystormer who are actually in touch with the new generation and the magnitude of the incel problem.
they see how having females in power everywhere simultaneously fucks up everything for rightwing purposes while accelerating the incel problem.
they also don’t lionize women like boomers, thinking of their wife as some kind of super-discerning judge of male worth, and their daughter as some kind of demi-god that’s better than most men.
they just see women as something to be controlled, much like the founders of all functioning civilizations see them.
this isn’t even an alliance by necessity, it just couldn’t even go any other way. both win when the other wins.
Misogynists of a feather flock together, and it seems likely that the incels’ and the Stormers’ shared hatred of women will bring them closer together over time, regardless of whether their weird pipe dreams about sexbots and artificial wombs ever come true.
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@Rabid Rabbit
Yup, Tatsuya Ishida is a TERF to an extreme degree. I never enjoyed Sinfest much before, as I found the whole “fembot” thing rather sexist and SWERFy, but it seems like many a sexist man he realized that he could rebrand as a TERF and be misogynistic while claiming to be a feminist.
The problem with what Suzanne Moore said is that it’s a dogwhistle. Transphobes talk about “biological sex” the way racists talk about race. Biological sex exists, yes, and trans* people acknowledge that. However, it’s not binary and it’s not immutable and is way more complicated than genitals or chromosomes. Here is an essay with more information. When transphobes talk about biological sex, they mean someone’s value and treatment should be contingent on what genitals they were born with, which is not the entirety of sex or gender (and is also a very antifeminist idea). It’s also a practice with a history linked to colonialism, as Europeans suppressed indigenous transgender and non-binary identities such as Two-Spirit or Hijra on this basis.
From what I saw, most of the trans* people I follow on Twitter went out of their way to condemn the sexual assault that JK survived, and also to point out that JK’s abuser was a cis man, not a trans* woman, and that it is transphobic nonsense to try to blame trans* women for what happened, especially seeing as trans* women are at extremely high risk of sexual assault. It’s also demeaning to survivors of sexual assault, cis and trans*, to reduce it to a justification of transphobia.
O/T: incels are now convinced masks are a conspiracy against them. One would think that if they are so ugly, they’d like masks that hide it.
And gaming YouTube is upset that Brie Larson started a YouTube Channel.
Sorry for the O/T, but I just had to share this. It’s a commission for UNICEF; “The Invisibility of Poverty“. It’s just drawn on the steps would you believe?
Years ago, I read a Chris Hedges book, “Empire of Illusion”. It was NOT a cheery book. Hedges devotes a chapter to commercial pornography. He describes a doctor who owns numerous life-sized sex dolls. He claimed to use the rhythm method with the dolls, because clean-up was easier that way. He also said something like, “In my experience, women who resemble these dolls aren’t in a good place mentally.”
I’m not condemning him…each to his or her own.
Wait, that’s not what I meant to say, at all. I meant to say “coitus interruptius”.
Is it my imagination, or is Twitter nowadays even slower and balkier than Facebook? I went to the Brie meltdown twitter link someone posted here recently and it took like five minutes to get to where the text of any tweet was visible and not just Twitter logos and spinning “loading” wheels, and then a couple more minutes before various flat-colored rectangles turned into images. During the latter period the browser indicated, apparently incorrectly, that it was done loading. The Twitter tab was focused the whole time.
This is on a 3 megabit down-pipe with little contention at the time. Not stellar, but a text-and-still-images web page should NOT take seven full minutes to load with that.
It seems many major websites now assume that everyone (or maybe just everyone-that-matters) has a fat 40+ megabit cable/fiber pipe and don’t make any efforts to optimize for bandwidth.
Even then, a page that takes 7 minutes = 420 seconds to download via my shitty 3 megabit drinking-straw would still take well over half a minute on that 40 megabit cable firehose they’re assuming incorrectly that everyone now has.
Remember when the recommended practice was to have your site load in 10 seconds or less?
*sigh*
OT: I know I’ve been here for a long time and it’s possible this has been explained to me before, but how do you post images?
@Yutolia
Copy and paste the image url (often can be found by right-clicking and choosing “copy image location”) and make sure it ends with an image extension like .jpg, .gif, or .png.
If it’s an image on your hard drive, you’ll need to upload it somewhere like imgur.com to post it.
@Yutolia
Supposedly, you post a link ending in .jpg (or similar graphic file type) on it’s own line.
I can get it to work maybe one time in 10 though, so I’m obviously missing something – a spell or an incantation maybe. 😛
@Alan Robertshaw:
Stunning. Thanks for sharing.
@Naglfar:
Thanks for the link!
@Naglfar, Threp: thank you!!
OT: It’s Malia Obama’s birthday today. Here’s a song to mark the occasion.
…. I don’t think anything raised by a doll would be a very healthy individual.
There’s an incel on the previous page that everyone missed
Where’s a site for incels that isn’t misogynistic. Because I’ve sure never seen one.
These things aren’t mutually exclusive. Abusers and bigots are always normal everyday people, not boogeymen in a dark alley.
Not getting a date isn’t a social injustice and framing it that way is actually misogynistic, even violent. Because if it’s an injustice that no one is dating and/or fucking you, how would justice be restored? By women dating and/or fucking you. And if no women want to do that? Well…violence must be used to achieve justice, right?
The World Health Organization is conspiring against incels? I’d have thought they’d be a little busy with the pandemic, but OK.
In all seriousness, who is conspiring to make everyone hate you and why? How are existing power structures served by keeping you sexless?
@WWTH
Didn’t notice that, he must have just come through from spam.
Anyway:
[Citation needed]
I guarantee you incels don’t need outsider help to look bad, y’all do that just fine on your own.
Ever heard of the No True Scotsman fallacy?
Oh, and you’re demonstrably wrong BTW, does the name Elliot Rodger ring a bell?
Ah, the great social injustice of not having a sex slave.
Pray tell, who is it? Teh Jews? Teh Feminists? I’m both, so I want to know if I’m supposedly doing that.
Oh yeah porn whinny incel is such a victim of social injustice because no one wants to touch their dicks. Get over yourself incel. Be glad you don’t have real problems. Now run along back to your sad little life you think you have
O/T: Fionne Orlander is a TERF token trans* woman to whom they can point and claim they’re not transphobic. However, she’s trying to fundraise to get facial feminization surgery and her “friends” are showing their true colors (Link tw transphobia). Once again, befriending bigots doesn’t pay, and they don’t actually care about the wellbeing of their tokens.
I hope this incel comes back to explain how to solve the great social injustice of women not having sex with him without force or violence.
@policy
Probably involves raising girls to have no standards. Which we all know won’t work and won’t happen.
Oh, that’s easy! Prevent women from holding jobs and impose harsh penalties on anyone having sex with someone other than their spouse. Then women will be
forcedincentivized to marry incels and have sex with them, or else they will starve on the streets!There, completely violence and force free, because everyone knows that violence only occurs when one person physically assaults another person, and is never ever systemic or intangible! /Sarcasm
O/T: JK Rowling continues her rapid output and spreading of bad takes by liking a tweet that manages to claim both that trans* people should try every possible way to not be trans*, and that using antidepressants is lazy. Ableism and transphobia, hand in hand, as usual.
…and she’s now gone full Glinner and is trying to start a pile on of a much smaller account that criticized her. If you have a Twitter account I encourage reporting her tweets for inciting hatred and targeted harassment.
Some part of me wonders if she was just waiting for Graham to get banned so she could be Queen of the TERFs.
Cranks only ever get crankier over time.
I’m a bit gobsmacked that Rowling went “I’ve ignored death and rape threats, but the implication that I think medication for mental health is for lazy people merely because I liked a tweet saying that the cause for medication of mental illness is laziness, that’s where I draw the line!”
So progressives calling out shitty behavior are worse than internet CHUDs sending out death threats. Cool.
I’m reluctant to call Rowling a TERF because I’ve seen no evidence that she’s a radical feminist. Calling her one when she isn’t one makes it too easy for her to shrug off the label. She’s just a straight transphobe and should be called one.
@Catalpa
This seems to be the general attitude of most reactionaries, both alt right and dirtbag left. Probably because criticism might prompt them to re-evaluate their behavior.
@PoM
I think at this point the term TERF is mostly used to indicate using pseudo feminist language or claiming to protect women as an excuse for transphobia, rather than actually being a radical feminist. By most definitions Graham Linehan was never a radical feminist and devoted much time to using misogynistic insults against cis women who disagreed with him, which isn’t very feminist, yet most would agree he is a TERF. Rowling claims to be a feminist, despite many antifeminist ideas in her books, and she does use arguments about protecting women and girls, so I think the label’s current usage fits.
And even if JK isn’t a TERF herself by your definition, she has surrounded herself with people who are unambiguously TERFs and regularly retweets and likes them, so that would also be an argument in favor of calling her a TERF.