By David Futrelle
Seems I wasn’t the only person to take note of the Daily Stormer’s growing excitement over sexbots and artificial wombs, which the Stormers think will render real human women obsolete and help to solve “our white reproduction problem.”
Over on Incels.co, one prolific commenter called Sparrow’s Song posted a link to the Stormer article about sexbots I wrote about yesterday, declaring that “the Daily Stormer is on our side.”
“It seems like this time around, the Nazis are trying to save the untermensch instead of dispose of them like femasites [women] want,” he wrote.
This is ideal, I cannot love a foid and a foid cannot love me, a waifubot is more human and worthy than a fembeast unclean animal.
Somehow I suspect that those “waifubots” would get pretty unclean pretty quickly, but never mind.
Add ectogenesis to fun, or as I like to call them, Uberwombs, and not only will every man have a reason to live and finally have their reproductive human rights recognized, but men would also never have to breed with genetically subhuman landwhales who produce deformed incel sons who rope.
English translation: Add artificial wombs to the mix and men will be able to pass their genes onto the next generation without having to have procreative sex with “genetically subhuman” fat women who would give birth to ugly male children destined to become incels and kill themselves.
Foids have nothing to complain about, they can turn their chad harems into physical dwelling places and have their animalistic, heartless, barbaric, and hateful blood orgies of death and bullying among themselves and their chads.
How do you change a “harem” of Chads into a building? What is this dude even talking about?
Ugly and fat foids can get chadbots and artificial creampie procedures, they have nothing to complain about it. This technology isn’t misogynistic, this technology is MERCIFUL GRACE.
Now, there are certainly many commenters on Incels.co who are sympathetic to white nationalism and the rabid antisemitism that comes along with it, but most of those in the comments took issue with Sparrow’s Song’s new enthusiasm for the Daily Stormer. For some, the Nazis are simply normie “cucks” who worship white women (though this is clearly not the case with the highly misogynistic Daily Stormer crew). Other incels, many of them not themselves white, are less than thrilled by Nazi racism.
But one commenter called turbocuckcel_7000, another prolific poster who, like Sparrow’s Song, has more than 12,000 comments to his name, sees some sort of alliance with the Stormer crew as both inevitable and good. While he dismisses the “older patriotic types” in the far-right milieu who are “very proud of their achievements in finding a wife and … lionize their daughters,” he’s enthusiastic about the
men on the younger side like those staffing the Dailystormer who are actually in touch with the new generation and the magnitude of the incel problem.
they see how having females in power everywhere simultaneously fucks up everything for rightwing purposes while accelerating the incel problem.
they also don’t lionize women like boomers, thinking of their wife as some kind of super-discerning judge of male worth, and their daughter as some kind of demi-god that’s better than most men.
they just see women as something to be controlled, much like the founders of all functioning civilizations see them.
this isn’t even an alliance by necessity, it just couldn’t even go any other way. both win when the other wins.
Misogynists of a feather flock together, and it seems likely that the incels’ and the Stormers’ shared hatred of women will bring them closer together over time, regardless of whether their weird pipe dreams about sexbots and artificial wombs ever come true.
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@Buttercup
I also find it a bit weird that this is what they think “reproductive rights” means. I can just imagine one showing up at a Planned Parenthood and demanding a sexbot.
@Ohlmann
There have been talking dolls for a while, so I imagine in the future if sophisticated enough AI is ever developed it would be available in doll form. The current talking dolls on the market creep me out a bit still.
Harem is in fact the same word as haram, “that [place] which is forbidden,” in this case to (almost all) men.
Interesting that the conclusion is “Yay, the Nazis are on our side this time!” and not “…uh, we’re on the Nazis’ side this time?”
I’ve never got around to thinking up a story to house the character, but it did occur to me a few years ago that a SFnal sexbot might reasonably complain about how anyone they actually want to sleep with is too worried about consent issues to accept their offer.
Something like this?
http://magazine.uc.edu/content/dam/magazine/images/famous/famousTV/superbowl.jpg
@Catalpa
That’s a start. And maybe another one could stand and hold a light to be a lamp. Or a couple could stand in the doorframe and swing out of the way to let people in.
@Catalpa
I just thought they’d make a human pyramid or something.
An incel, a nazi, and a g*m*rg*t*r walk into a bar.
The bartender says “Good evening, sir. Table for one?”
@Naglfar:
Eventually, every person online will have their own social network, which connects to none of the others. And on that day, the Internet will be perfected.
@Moggie:
Well, manure is very enriching!
Let a billion echo-chambers bloom!
@Moggie
Well, the main TERF social networks now are Graham Linehan’s vanity network Glindr and M.K. Fain’s Spinster. Both are part of the Fediverse and (predictably) connect to Gab, so they haven’t quite reached that yet.
Now I have House of Fun by Madness stuck in my head, except for it’s House of Chad instead.
My interpretation of this was that he was envisioning a harem forming around one Chad (since that seems to be incels’ primary beef with Chads – hoarding all the Staceys) rather than women forming their own reverse harems of Chads. Then in these harems they could fight amongst themselves for the privilege to sex up their Chad. The Chad at the end is plural because harems was plural – there will need to be many, many harems in this sexbot utopia he’s dreaming of, to keep the femoids from ruining everything.
Hmm, sounds like some mommy issues here… But if incels are deformed because landwhale mothers, won’t their offspring be as well, or does subhumanity only transfer through the maternal side? /s
@Prith kDar
Given the incel views on women and genetics, they might believe that.
Clearly subhumanity is an X-linked dominant trait, and since cis women have two X chromosomes, they have twice the chance of exhibiting this trait, compared to cis men.
I hope they’ll be very (quietly) happy together.
@Naglfar
Yeah, true. Another funny thing about Mezzo Forte is the it has two sex scenes that can be easily removed without affecting the plot–one is a dream the female merc has about her boss, and the other, ostensibly a r-pe of the female merc, is revealed to have been the sexbot which they used to replace her. It made it easily-censored to sell in the States (violence, as we know, does not need censoring).
Also has a terrifying female villain–see, the mercs were sent to kindap a mob boss, but when they find out he’s a mob boss and not just a rich dude they try to let him go and flee the country only to realize he’s already dead and now his daughter is going to destroy them all. And the daughter is scary as all get out.
Downside, the female merc’s actress is the woman who voiced Rika in Digimon Tamers, and she is using the exact same voice.
@Catalpa
Then how did all the incels inherit it? As we all know, males only inherit traits from their fathers, and presumably their fathers were Chads who had sex. /s
Webcomic questionable content (less bad than that sounds) has sentient AI in robotic bodies and there are romance between human and AI subplots. There are many things incels etc would not like about this webcomic
Oh, thank goodness. I’ve been really struggling to find good places to have my animalistic, heartless, barbaric, and hateful blood orgies.
I have two boomer dads, and I can confirm that neither of them thinks I am a demi-god. They both like me well enough–one of them thinks I’m pretty decent as far as non-engineers go, and the other seems to appreciate me as an audience for terrible puns–but they’re both well aware that I am a human being with faults. Was this sentence only about boomer nazis? They’re not nazis, so maybe that’s the problem.
I’m kind of confused by the cleaning concern. Making your bot self-cleaning is orders of magnitude easier than making it capable of satisfactory sex would be.
@Viscaria
Did you try the alternate dimension invoked by writing the runic alphabet on a mirror and lighting a purple candle below (it must be purple)? That’s where I hold my blood orgies of death and bullying.
@impudentinfidel
I’m not so sure about that. A lot of people like Fleshlights and vibrators, which are much simpler than a sex robot but provide orgasm for many, and those do not self clean. Making something that self cleans is a totally separate concern from sexual stimulation, and probably would take a back seat seeing as the main purpose of the robot is sex. There are also currently no self cleaning sex toys that I am aware of. There would also be the risk of mangled genitalia if cleaning mode was somehow activated while in use, so that’s another reason it probably wouldn’t be self cleaning.
Oh please. incels.co? That site is 90% trolls pretending to be incels. Alot of them are just “normies” (people who are not incels) trying to make incels look bad because they hate us.
Real incels are not violent. We are your neighbors and coworkers. And we are victims of social injustice. Despite the media’s attempt to portray us as terrorists and haters. You should think about WHO is feeding you this line, and WHY.
That is, oddly, the most generous and reality-aware thing I think I’ve seen from this sort. Usually the fantasy is that Chads will still fuck hawt Stacies, incels will get hawt sexbots, and ugly/fat women will cry into their buckets of ice cream that incels will no longer have to “settle” for them. Or that all women everywhere will shrivel.up and die off due to sexbots eliminating their power to control men through horniness because after all no woman actually enjoys sex they only use it as a weapon to oppress men, donchano?
This may be the first one to acknowledge that yes, women like sex and, as such, there will very likely be sexbots for women just as much as for men.
Hell on.some level it sounds like heaven! A hot guybot, built to my.specifications, who can give me everything I want minus the aggravation of having to tread softly around some fragile male ego, plus if I want a kid after all I can use a fake uterus,no nine months of hell and hours of agonizing torment and a lifetime of heath problems and health risks, not to mention no having to fight some patronizing profiteering doctor to have any control over my.own birth In experience and/or try to avoid birth abuse? My goodness, I would be crying so many years into my bucket of ice cream…years of joy!
@Ariaflame
And, of course, webcomic Sinfest has a sexbot revolution plotline, but then its author, on becoming woke, turned almost overnight into a caricature of a redfem, and I’m told is TERFing it up with the best of them these days. (I lost interest in that strip years ago as it became more and more ridiculous, so can’t speak to how it’s doing these days.
Speaking of TERFs, Suzanne Moore had a column in the Guardian which is a monument of either misinformation or bad faith. I mean, surely no one will pillory her for saying that “I continue to think biological sex exists – which in certain circles is heresy”. Well, maybe for the second half. I mean, I don’t deny the existence of biological sex, I just don’t think it has any importance. And I freely admit that there comes a point in discussions of transness where I get completely lost, especially when it comes to the non-binary side of things. At a certain stage, I no longer know what we’re talking about, and I’m not enough of a Platonist or a Descartes-ian to be able to grant the complete separation between physical body and mind that sometimes seems to be implied in some trans discourse.
On the other hand, I’m perfectly aware that 1) as a straight cis male, this is my problem, not trans people’s, and 2) it’s no reason to be an asshole. (And that it’s unfortunate that it’s very hard to come across places discussing these issues that might help me through them without landing straight on the shores of TERFland.)
Anyhow, all of which is to say that this passage really set my teeth on edge:
JFC, Suzanne Moore, that is not what happened. First, JKR got into hot water over her transphobic comments, as actors (and others!) called her on it; then she revealed her history of domestic abuse, as a way of justifying herself, and people were torn between the support owed to abused women and how appalling it is to see someone use their own history of abuse as justification for punching down; then the Sun did its thing, and no one backtracked — they expressed their disgust at the paper, showed a lot more grace to JKR than she has to them, and at the same time still pointed out that she was wrong. And that it’s possible to support a person in one area while still condemning them in others.
Christ. I really want to know to what extent Moore is consciously twisting what happened, and to what extent she genuinely believes her version is what happens. I like to know when my villains are being deliberately evil and when they’re just deluded. (Not that they can’t be both.)