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And now the sequel: Incels, Daily Stormer find common ground on sexbots and artificial wombs

The ideal Aryan woman?

By David Futrelle

Seems I wasn’t the only person to take note of the Daily Stormer’s growing excitement over sexbots and artificial wombs, which the Stormers think will render real human women obsolete and help to solve “our white reproduction problem.”

Over on Incels.co, one prolific commenter called Sparrow’s Song posted a link to the Stormer article about sexbots I wrote about yesterday, declaring that “the Daily Stormer is on our side.”

“It seems like this time around, the Nazis are trying to save the untermensch instead of dispose of them like femasites [women] want,” he wrote.

This is ideal, I cannot love a foid and a foid cannot love me, a waifubot is more human and worthy than a fembeast unclean animal.

Somehow I suspect that those “waifubots” would get pretty unclean pretty quickly, but never mind.

Add ectogenesis to fun, or as I like to call them, Uberwombs, and not only will every man have a reason to live and finally have their reproductive human rights recognized, but men would also never have to breed with genetically subhuman landwhales who produce deformed incel sons who rope.

English translation: Add artificial wombs to the mix and men will be able to pass their genes onto the next generation without having to have procreative sex with “genetically subhuman” fat women who would give birth to ugly male children destined to become incels and kill themselves.

Foids have nothing to complain about, they can turn their chad harems into physical dwelling places and have their animalistic, heartless, barbaric, and hateful blood orgies of death and bullying among themselves and their chads.

How do you change a “harem” of Chads into a building? What is this dude even talking about?

Ugly and fat foids can get chadbots and artificial creampie procedures, they have nothing to complain about it. This technology isn’t misogynistic, this technology is MERCIFUL GRACE.

Now, there are certainly many commenters on Incels.co who are sympathetic to white nationalism and the rabid antisemitism that comes along with it, but most of those in the comments took issue with Sparrow’s Song’s new enthusiasm for the Daily Stormer. For some, the Nazis are simply normie “cucks” who worship white women (though this is clearly not the case with the highly misogynistic Daily Stormer crew). Other incels, many of them not themselves white, are less than thrilled by Nazi racism.

But one commenter called turbocuckcel_7000, another prolific poster who, like Sparrow’s Song, has more than 12,000 comments to his name, sees some sort of alliance with the Stormer crew as both inevitable and good. While he dismisses the “older patriotic types” in the far-right milieu who are “very proud of their achievements in finding a wife and … lionize their daughters,” he’s enthusiastic about the

men on the younger side like those staffing the Dailystormer who are actually in touch with the new generation and the magnitude of the incel problem.

they see how having females in power everywhere simultaneously fucks up everything for rightwing purposes while accelerating the incel problem.

they also don’t lionize women like boomers, thinking of their wife as some kind of super-discerning judge of male worth, and their daughter as some kind of demi-god that’s better than most men.

they just see women as something to be controlled, much like the founders of all functioning civilizations see them.

this isn’t even an alliance by necessity, it just couldn’t even go any other way. both win when the other wins.

Misogynists of a feather flock together, and it seems likely that the incels’ and the Stormers’ shared hatred of women will bring them closer together over time, regardless of whether their weird pipe dreams about sexbots and artificial wombs ever come true.

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Naglfar
Naglfar
3 months ago

@PoM

This occurred in some areas all the way up to the 1980s.

Honor killings are still common in some countries. I wouldn’t be surprised at all if women who are pregnant out of wedlock meet that fate there.

you’ll probably find a mate and get married one day, if you get rid of your toxic attitudes

The “if” is doing a lot of work here. It may be possible to escape, but I’m not sure how many do.

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

I’d like Friendly Neighborhood Incel to explain to me how he can use social shame to make me stop being aromantic without coercion.

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
3 months ago

It may be possible to escape, but I’m not sure how many do.

Some definitely do, although they typically graduate from “incel” to “douchebag” from reports.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
3 months ago
Naglfar
Naglfar
3 months ago

@Alan Robertshaw
Interesting article. I see its point re: cities not being designed for women and about how skyscrapers are phallic. Although I’m not sure how to make vagina-shaped buildings, I do see how cities could benefit from being redesigned to cater towards women.

Catalpa
Catalpa
3 months ago

Mostly that headline makes me think about the first time I learned about erection engineers and had to exercise extreme levels of self control to not snicker all the way through the planning meeting.

Lainy
Lainy
3 months ago

But incel. I like having sex with my husband and the different partners we have. Why do i have to live my life the day way you think i should just because your such a shit head that no one will love you or let you into their body? Hmm?

Lainy
Lainy
3 months ago

@naglfar

I’ve given up hope for a lot of incels. They enjoy being miserable. They don’t know how to be happy and don’t want to be. They would find something wrong with the world even if they got everything they want. Their all basically just a bunch of death worshiping miserable scum bags that even the devil turns away form and says eeew

Threp (formerly Shadowplay)

Believe me, little incel, you’ll probably find a mate and get married one day …

Nah PoM, he won’t.

We did – all the guys who’ve mentioned over the years that “There but for the grace of God” and annoyed everyone.

What we didn’t have to prevent it were a community of like minded sorts where faux misery and bullshit gets you cred.

Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
3 months ago

@Friendly Neighborhood Incel

Real incels are not violent. We are your neighbors and coworkers. And we are victims of social injustice. Despite the media’s attempt to portray us as terrorists and haters. You should think about WHO is feeding you this line, and WHY.

You haven’t answered our questions about WHO is feeding us a line that incels are terrorists and haters or WHY they are doing this.

I have my own theory about WHO says that incels are terrorists and haters: It’s incels themselves. WHY do incels do this? For credit. They’re proud of their terrorism and the hatred that underlies it.

At least six mass murders, resulting in a total of 44 deaths, have been committed since 2014 by men who have either self-identified as incels or who had mentioned incel-related names and writings in their private writings or Internet postings. Incel communities have been criticized by the media and researchers for being misogynistic, encouraging violence, spreading extremist views, and radicalizing their members.[2][24][25][20] Beginning in 2018, the incel ideology has increasingly been described as a terrorism threat, and a February 2020 attack in Toronto, Canada became the first instance of allegedly incel-related violence to be prosecuted as an act of terrorism.[20][26][27][28]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incel#Mass_murders_and_violence

Naglfar
Naglfar
3 months ago

@Kat

You haven’t answered our questions about WHO is feeding us a line that incels are terrorists and haters or WHY they are doing this.

Apparently it’s the “powerful high value men.” I think he’s trying to dogwhistle about Jews, but I’m not sure.

Lainy
Lainy
3 months ago

@Naglfar

I figured it was men who can get a partner that they abuse and rape but incels can’t do that because they can’t even pretend to be a decent person for 5 minutes. They don’t have the charm and confidence of an abuser, but their would be abusers if they could get a partner.

I want the incel to explain to me though how his plan would get me to marry and sleep with a man who is beneath me instead of just choosing the man that is my husband again? Because if anything it will make women’s standards higher, not lower. If I could really only have sex with one person for the rest of my life and I had to choose that person super carefully, I’m picking my 5’6 muscles, dark, handsome, beautiful husband again for sure.

Naglfar
Naglfar
3 months ago

@Lainy

They don’t have the charm and confidence of an abuser, but their would be abusers if they could get a partner.

Oh, certainly. They’re abuser wannabes, who want to abuse women but think it’s too much work.

I want the incel to explain to me though how his plan would get me to marry and sleep with a man who is beneath me instead of just choosing the man that is my husband again?

The way I read it, it sounded like he was advocating some sort of enforced monogamy/arranged marriage policy where women do not get to choose and are assigned a man. That sounds awful.

What I want to know from him is this: he said in his post that “It [freedom to choose partners] does not benefit women and in fact hurts them almost as much as it hurts low-value men” and that “I am genuinely regretful that so many western women will suffer when this happens.” I am curious in what way he thinks being a free human and able to choose partners hurts me or other women. Especially since I generally prefer other women over men as partners, which he probably thinks is a big no-no.

Lainy
Lainy
3 months ago

@Naglfar

Is that what the enforced monogamy is? I also thought it was like I would get to choose one sexual partner for the rest of my life, but just one. So like any of the partner sex my husband and I do would be outlawed, and if I had sex outside of marriage it would be outlawed, and if I got pregnant outside of marriage I would be punished. But I also thought I at least got to choose the one I would get to have for the rest of my life.

Naglfar
Naglfar
3 months ago

@Lainy
I don’t know if there is a formal definition since it’s not really an academic idea, but in my experience the people who rave about the joys of enforced monogamy seem to think it would mean everyone is assigned an opposite sex partner. So I’m not sure if there would be partner choice, but I doubt an incel would allow for that since, as you point out, no woman would want him even then.

Catalpa
Catalpa
3 months ago

I don’t necessarily think that the “gentle” incels think that women should be handed out in arranged marriages. (Though I’m sure that there are plenty of entitled misogynists who that want exactly that.) That would be using “force”!

No, they want to pair together the removal of sexual freedom with the removal of economic freedom. (I.e. no or very limited career prospects for women, no welfare, etc.)

Therefore, women will need to marry someone in order to have their basic needs met, and they’ll need to do it as soon as their parents stop supporting them. And since you’re only allowed one partner, the prospects for marriage will be slim, therefore even the most undesirable incel will be able to get a wife due to the law of averages and statistics, and all of this without (technically) forcing women into marriage!

I wrote about it in the last page a little more succinctly.

Oh, that’s easy! Prevent women from holding jobs and impose harsh penalties on anyone having sex with someone other than their spouse. Then women will be forced incentivized to marry incels and have sex with them, or else they will starve on the streets!

Naglfar
Naglfar
3 months ago

@Catalpa

I don’t necessarily think that the “gentle” incels think that women should be handed out in arranged marriages.

I think they want it but they’re trying to sound “reasonable” so they don’t say it outright.

Lainy
Lainy
3 months ago

@Naglfar

Oh so it’s just another case of them being cowards who can’t even come right out and say what they believe. You know that pisses me off so much, if your going to believe hateful crap, then come out with it. Don’t dance around it like a coward. At least own your shityness and if you don’t like how people treat you because of it, then change.

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
3 months ago

Incels always try to portray themselves as pathetic sad sacks whenever they are out in public, but we know what they are like when they are in their “safe” spaces. We know what they really want, and what they’re willing to do when they don’t get it.

Naglfar
Naglfar
3 months ago

@Lainy
I agree. If someone is going to be an asshole, they should make it apparent immediately so I know to avoid them. It’s like how I think it’s good that a lot of transphobes on twitter put a checker flag emoji in their name or bio, because it means I can easily see who is a transphobe and discard whatever they have to say and don’t accidentally follow any. The downside is that I sometimes end up ignoring non-transphobes who are into car racing, but that’s a risk I’m willing to take.

@PoM
The real issue is that that others might be fooled into thinking incels are just lonely men and end up sympathizing with them.

Catalpa
Catalpa
3 months ago

I think they want it but they’re trying to sound “reasonable” so they don’t say it outright.

Fair. I should have more accurately said that I think they’d like it if they were given a government-mandated HB10 virgin sex slave, but they’re willing to propose a more “modest” system that they think will be more palatable to the normies.

Naglfar
Naglfar
3 months ago

@Catalpa
This also gives them the plausible deniability that the alt right runs on—they can say “we don’t actually want [extreme solution], we were just joking, instead we want [toned down thing],” when really they want the extreme one.

Friendly Neighborhood Incel
Friendly Neighborhood Incel
3 months ago

Clever move, letting my comments through only after I left so it looks like you got the last word… typically deceptive strategy.

Lainy
Lainy
3 months ago

@incel

So are you going to answer what I asked you or do you not want to do that know because it shows how much of an ass you are? come on coward answer the question.

Naglfar
Naglfar
3 months ago

@FNI
And I’d like to know the answers to my question as well.

You said previously that feminism and the sexual revolution have hurt women “almost as much as low value men.” How does it hurt women that we are considered people and not property?

Masse_Mysteria
Masse_Mysteria
3 months ago

@incel

Clever move, letting my comments through only after I left so it looks like you got the last word… typically deceptive strategy.

Curiously enough, this is less likely to be a Strategic Move to make you look silly than just your comments stuck in moderation since you are a new commenter.

Funny how the world in general isn’t conspiring against you, isn’t it?

Lainy
Lainy
3 months ago

@incel

And then there is WWTH question about how you are going to stop her from being asexual without coercion or force since you seem to think you can do that.

Lainy
Lainy
3 months ago

@incel

Also avoiding answering the hard questions because you know the answers will show what you really are. Typical cowardly incel move. Typical internet cult strategy.

Naglfar
Naglfar
3 months ago

@Masse_mysteria

Funny how the world in general isn’t conspiring against you, isn’t it?

Mr. Incel right now:
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weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

And then there is WWTH question about how you are going to stop her from being asexual without coercion or force since you seem to think you can do that.

Aromantic, not asexual. But yes. I would like to know how I’m supposed to be convinced to want only a monogamous marital relationship in a way that’s not coercive.

I suspect the answer would be that my identity isn’t real and I’m just brainwashed by feminism or something. But please prove me wrong.

Naglfar
Naglfar
3 months ago

@WWTH
He might also claim that it‘s not coercion unless it’s an enforced law or something like that, as before he claimed that social pressure wasn’t coercive.

Catalpa
Catalpa
3 months ago

@Friendly Neighborhood Incel

First time commentors on this site need to be approved by David before their comments show up, since the subject material tends to attract some pretty shitty takes. It’s not some conspiracy against you specifically.

You’re through moderation now, so why don’t you take the opportunity to actually, y’know, respond to the replies you got, instead of whining about us getting the last word? You can’t get the last word in if you don’t elaborate on your points, my dude.