By David Futrelle
On Monday, Reddit announced what looked like a massive crackdown on hate, banning some 2000 subreddits guilty of hate speech and/or harassment, including The_Donald, once Reddit’s main hangout for Trump trolls and a vast virtual storehouse of hate.
But the closer one looks at Reddit’s actions the less dramatic they appear. The vast majority of the newly banned subreddits were tiny and/or inactive. The_Donald itself had been moribund for some time as its inhabitants, expecting an eventual ban, had long ago moved offsite. And some of the most hateful sudreddits out there remain intact — the misogynistic havens of the Men Going Their Own Way subreddit and the assorted “Red Pill” subreddits.
Yep, they launched a crusade against hate speech that simply ignored the extreme misogyny of the site’s MGTOWs and “Red Pillers” — exactly as I worried they would in a post here last week. Sure, Reddit took down the small and only semi-active AgainstWomensRights subreddit and seems to have cleared out some even tinier incel subreddits. But somehow they overlooked r/MGTOW and TheRedPill, each with a massive audience of its own.
Let’s consider r/MGTOW, perhaps the most egregiously hateful of the surviving subreddits. Were the higher-ups at Reddit fooled by the assertions of some MGTOWs that their movement, such as it is, has nothing to do with misogyny and is really about men celebrating life on their own terms? Because that’s complete bullshit; MGTOW men spend so much time slandering women they barely have time to cook themselves dinners.
Take a look at this selection of posts from r/MGTOW over the past several years and see if you can detect any hints of misogyny.
Huh. Seems to me that this might just be some sort of hate subreddit. And these are just the headlines. What happens when you click on the headlines and look at the actual posts in question? This is the sort of thing you get.
There are plenty more examples in the archives here. And even if you’re not convinced by the misogyny, there’s no way to get around the other forms of hate that run rampant in the MGTOW subreddit, including racism and antisemitism and all the other hatreds popular amongst the alt-right.
Reddit’s new rules claim that “communities and people that incite violence or that promote hate based on identity or vulnerability will be banned.” It’s clear that the MGTOW subreddit is in constant violation of the rules for its promotion of hate against women — and that no reform of the subreddit is possible, as hatred of women is in fact the central tenet of MGTOW ideology. There’s no denying the obvious: if Reddit’s new rules are to mean anything the MGTOW subreddit should be banned immediately.
If the things MGTOWs say about women were said about any other group no one would have any trouble classifying them as hate speech. I don’t know why misogyny is so often given a pass when it comes to discussions of hate speech, but it shouldn’t be. Ban r/MGTOW now.
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