By David Futrelle
Here’s an interesting little exchange on Tumblr between a woman discussing how common it is for creepy older dudes to catcall girls in their early teens and another woman who thinks it’s no big deal. Because it doesn’t involve alligators.
No, really.
Hey, men’s rights lady, sorry you got chased by an alligator. That would indeed suck. You’d think that the experience might have made you more sympathetic to teen girls having to deal with large predators, but I guess not.
Having conversations with you must be a treat.
“Oh, fuck, I just got robbed at gunpoint.”
“YEAH WELL LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT THE TIME I GOT CHASED BY AN ALLIGATOR.”
“A guy just stuck a gun in my face and took my wallet and phone!”
“WAS HE BY ANY CHANCE AN ALLIGATOR?”
As logical fallacies go, this is one of the more inventive ones I’ve seen of late. “What about the time I got chased by an alligator” is a form of whataboutism, I guess, but it really needs a name of its own. Argumentum Ad Alligator, perhaps.
Here’s the most effective rebuttal:
H/T — r/TheBluePill
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@Vicky
Yeah I miss them all so much. It feels like being apart from my kids. with the younger classes it’s not so much about being good but giving them a safe enjoinment to be in to make friends, try out something to see if they like it, and get some healthy physical activity. I’ve got a few students I think will keep going with ballet purely because they love it and I’ve got a few that come because they love me and their friends. my older classes though, there the ones where being good starts to matter more. I’m so proud of each of them and I wish I could give them all individual attention they need because they have some real talent and could go far with it.
@LindsayIrene
The Scorpions album cover that I think inspired Spinal Tap was 1980’s Animal Magnetism, which while SFW, is not very tasteful so I won’t post it. It came out 4 years before the film and the similarities are rather apparent.
I think I hit a sore spot in the soft part of Mansvoice head. Wow they really hate attractive sexually active women. Oh well. His bitterness has nothing on me.
Some of us are employed and some are not. But it’s massively assholish to mock someone based on their employment status. Especially during a pandemic that has caused massive job losses.
A person’s worth has nothing to do with how much money they’re making for capitalists.
However, I wonder what you’d say if a woman turned a man down for a date and mocked him for being unemployed while doing so.
Oh, I don’t know about that. I certainly think I’ve been living rent-free in your head recently.
Different contexts.
Actually, I police the capitalists. They certainly don’t like me!
Well, I used to be hot. Super hot. I looked like Kate Winslet in Holy Smoke. I married a guy that a lot of people thought was ‘below’ me, lookswise. Fuck ’em. We’re happy 34 years later, and now we’re both middle-aged fatties, so in the long run, physical appearance doesn’t matter that much.
*doubt*
Lol different context because woman are the worst right? it’s perfectly fine if he mocks unemployed people but if a woman does it then it’s the worst thing in the world tm.
Hey mansvoice. I prefer big dicks over small ones. How evil am I? lol.
Well, that was completely predictable.
@Some chick in texas
If a woman likes big dicks and big muscles and strong jaws, she’s hitler, if a man likes tiny waist, big boobs and long flowing hair and round ass, well then he’s just a man and that’s totally different don’t you know. Bluh.
@MansVoice
They probably like that you vote for the political party that keeps cutting them billion dollar tax breaks and removing regulations.
@Lainy
I think it’s that they just don’t like the idea of women having preferences or standards for men, full stop.
I rest my case.
@Lainey
Yep. If a woman has preferences, she’s an evil bitch. But of course a man has preferences. Can’t fight biology, don’t ya know, or whatever they’re blaming it on this week,
@MansFart
Not sure what that proves. That someone responded quickly? You know this site has email notifications, right?
@some chick
and heaven forbid those standards are outside of some guys to be able to reach. You should just be happy that he doesn’t beat you to often and lets you go outside the house everyone in a while. Anything else is just to much to ask of any man. We should have standards so low that any guy who does the bare minim should be able to reach them. Hell we should just be happy if we get a guy at all, everyone knows a man is the ultimate prize of life . Double bulh.
Yes, because I occasionally have a break from work and refresh the front page to find your fewmets there, that means that I dream about you 24/7.
Whatever you need to believe to help you get through the night, buddy.
@Lainy
Again with the yep. Or we should “keep an open mind” or “just give the guy a chance.” But the guys are of course under no obligation to reciprocate. And no doubt, our young edgelord here will swoop in to explain why this is actually a completely fair system thus unintentionally proving our point. He will of course never admit to getting said point.
@some chick in texas
It’s because like so many like him he’s a coward that likes hearing himself talk. He won’t say the horrible stuff he wants to because he wants to keep posting here. Any attention from women in his sad life is good for him even if it’s negative. You know he wants to say all this stuff that incels say. I’m sure he wants to say it’s the 14 year old girl in this post fault for being cat called. I can’t stand them when their cowards. If your going to be a bag of shit at least say what you want to say instead of dancing around it like a little shit stained pansy. Have guts at least if your going to be hateful. But no, he’s a scared little boy who doesn’t want to be band so he’s not going to do that.
How is it different? If it’s right for you to mock a person’s employment status – as opposed to classist and shitty – then is it right for a woman to mock men’s employment status in a dating setting? If it’s not right for women to do in a dating context, why isn’t it right?
Why do you find unemployment to be mockable in the first place? What’s contemptuous about it?
@Lainy
Or he’ll play at “being a gentleman” and spew incel nonsense slightly to the left and that will somehow prove that he isn’t like all the guys he’s actually like. Neither of these options are great. Either he’s a coward who really hates women or he’s a self-deluding fool who doesn’t realize everyone can tell he hates women.
Given that the commenter’s URL was “blairewhite-77,” that woman was probably either a fan of hers, or maybe even some earlier account of the actual YouTuber.
(Blaire White is a trans woman who makes videos about how other trans people aren’t really trans, and criticizing leftists and liberals in general. IE, she’s a trans woman who enjoys the taste of boots on her tongue apparently.)
@Lainy –
That’s a fun imaginary version of me, even more detached from reality than usual.
Lainy, I’m responsible for what I say, not what you think I want to say. And I couldn’t give a rat’s ass if I got “band.” (Again, spellcheck is your friend.)
For what it’s worth, I’m not alt-right, an incel, or an MRA, though I’m fairly sympathetic to the latter. I would identify as center-right, though that’s reductive. Maybe “socially conservative, fiscally moderate”?
Speaking as one of the regulators, I do believe in regulated capitalism. Conformist pseudo-Marxists eg WWTH are wrong: the market is an immensely powerful productive force, and the modern world would be much poorer without it. But Piketty is also correct – too much laissez faire means that wealth does tends to concentrate at the top. The solution is smart, commonsense regulation. We had a pretty good thing going 1950-80; I never much agreed with Reaganomics, though even if it could be defended at one point, certainly by now it’s a zombie ideology that needs to be put to bed.
Man’s Voice has outstayed his welcome, so I’ve banned him
Couldn’t have happened to a more deserving fellow.
“Wally Gator is a swinging alligator in the swamp.
He’s the greatest percolator when he really starts to romp.
There has never been a greater operator in the swamp.
See ya later, Wally Gator.”
Preach.