By David Futrelle
So the incels are hailing Spongebob Squarepants as a bluepilled version of themselves. Over on Incels.co, one commenter has this to say about the underwater icon:
I suppose this is a step in the right direction; Spongebob may not be the idea role model but he’s certainly better than the mass killers the incels generally lionize.
Of course, the incels responding to Gymletethnicel’s post eagerly await Spongebob’s ultimate “blackpilling,” his acceptance of the incel ideology of bitterness, despair, and death. And of course they imagine him going “ER” — Elliot Rodger — and shooting up the Krusty Krab fast food joint.
“Final episode of SpongeBob: he either ropes or goes ER,” writes one commenter.
“First he kills Sandy, then goes postal at the Krusty Krab and then shoots himself,” adds another.
Still others speculate about the other characters on the show. According to Slavcel11,
patrick would be a blackpilled uglycel who don’t want his youth be wasted away on wageslaving and crawling before a haughty uncultured foid that is sandy.
btw squidward is too blackpilled on the society even for an incel.
But a prolific Incels.co commenter called Sparrow’s Song has a somewhat different take on the show.
The show is actually Jewish propaganda designed to convince incels to go gay. Obviously, Patrick and Spongebob are both ugly and disabled mentally and physically… they will die alone if they pursue foids. If they were blackpilled, they would just go ER or rope. Too bad the show is cucked. The show depicts them as “best friends” because back then, they couldn’t just have gay poop dick sex relationships on children’s shows like they do now. The writers want ugly and autistic male children to engage in homosexual buttfuckery at a young age.
That’s why I watched Rocko’s Modern Life instead when I was a kid. My dad liked that show but hated Spongebob. He didn’t let me watch Spongebob. In his own words “you’re not watching Spongebob because Sponegbob is a faggot”.
Well, that’s enough Incels.co for one day.
H/T — Twitter’s @EyesOnTheRight, the dude behind the Angry White Men blog
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@ impish pepper
I’m not sure that’s totally correct. Even in the Peninsular Wars the British Army made it a thing to outgun the enemy. All that “What makes a good soldier…” Sharpe stuff.
Then in India the Army realised that, once their red jackets were covered in mud (or ‘Khaki‘ in the local vernacular), soldiers could blend in with the surroundings and shoot the enemy without being seen.
“Perfidious Albion!!!”
@An Impish Pepper
I agree, and it’s probably best that unless he indicates otherwise we assume that he’s living as normal. He’ll let us know if there’s anything he wants us to know.
@Alan
Yeah I’m not sure how true what I said actually was, but to any extent that it’s false, it looks even worse for those whose whole extent of activism is participating in the system. I’m aware that a large part of why we tolerate the system so much is because we’re taught to believe that we’ve always operated this way.
@Naglfar
I’m sure your position is not that you have to drop everything to canvass for Biden as much as possible, every little push moves the needle, and if you do less than the optimal level of canvassing then you should be held responsible for all the death and misery of a continued Trump presidency. So clearly there’s a line of some sort. Like I said before, I’m not saying any of this because voting has been hard for me personally, but because I’ve heard how hard it has been for many Americans, and what they’re holding their noses for on top of that. I just feel like some people are so focused on the idea (seemingly) that Biden specifically absolutely must win at all cost or else the universe itself will collapse and no more democracy or progress will be possible, anywhere. I wonder what will happen to those people if Trump wins. Will they lash out at everyone who deviated even slightly from the party line, calling them Russian troll bots? (Some are already doing that.) Will they just give up, go home, move on with their lives, and yell at those who are still fighting outside the confines of the ballot box that it’s their fault Trump won?
@An Impish Pepper
I think another four years of Trump will be devastating, far more so than his first four years now that he knows nobody will hold him accountable. If Biden wins, that probably won’t happen.
Okay but I never disputed that. Is that the only point you can contribute to this? I guess this is a better response than the last few times the presidential election was discussed, or even the last several times anything contentious was discussed here. People have said some truly awful things on this site, and I guess I should keep better track of my goals and expectations for bothering to engage.
@An Impish Pepper
I think a lot of people are specifically focused on notTrump! winning. I haven’t met too many people with a specific great love affair for rapey Biden, myself included, although those people of course exist, somewhere.
But I did ask you pretty specifically how, for example, safe abortions would be provided with the entire system working against them. Because it’s not that I have a great love affair for how things are, it’s just that I’m a pragmatist, not an anarchist.
At this point, I’d say the Republicans are so dangerous that the Democrats would have to come to power, and stay in power, forever and ever, without the conservative elements of that party ever taking power, in order to prevent the scaling back of women and minorities’ effective rights into oblivion. That doesn’t sound much more pragmatic than what I said, at least in the long run.
You can still invest in making Trump lose. You probably should, honestly, to whatever extent you think is warranted for you. It’s not necessarily either or. It’s just, safe abortions are provided by people with the right skills who have the right resources. You ask how alternative institutions can ensure stuff like that, but if the U.S. keeps crumbling like this, there isn’t going to be any other choice. Lots of communities in the U.S., particularly indigenous ones, have already basically had to fend for themselves, with the system working against them regardless of party, and they obviously haven’t exactly thrived but they’re still chugging along. So I dunno, maybe I just have more faith in humanity?
@Impish:
I was under the impression that some people here had stronger connections to David. And as for the notion that he’d notify us if he got ill, I’ve read more than a few scary stories at this point about COVID patients deteriorating shockingly fast in some situations. Sometimes so fast they die at home without ever getting off so much as a 911 call, and sometimes they never knew or suspected they even had COVID.
This is one scary goddamn virus.
“It’s just, safe abortions are provided by people with the right skills who have the right resources.”
There isn’t a single at home abortion procedure of an implanted pregnancy that doesn’t carry significant risk of needing medical care at some point. The use of abortifacients outside of medical supervision may be the best bet, but a. the need for medical intervention afterwards is not uncommon. b. you do realize abortifacients will be banned and possession of them aggressively prosecuted if things really go sideways, and c. any woman seeking care for a “suspicious” miscarriage will be jailed if things continue on this path?
Cases like Purvi Patel, sentence reduced but still convicted of child neglect after needing medical care after an incomplete black market medical abortion, are the canaries
in the coalmines of what is to come.
“You ask how alternative institutions can ensure stuff like that, but if the U.S. keeps crumbling like this, there isn’t going to be any other choice.”
Yes, just like how if I was stranded on the top of a mountain with only the human flesh of my dead friends to eat, I would do so. In the meantime… I would like to avoid the worse case scenario from happening instead of banking on people’s resilience to survive the horrible.
“You can still invest in making Trump lose. You probably should, honestly, to whatever extent you think is warranted for you.”
Cool. Thanks… I guess?
“Lots of communities in the U.S., particularly indigenous ones, have already basically had to fend for themselves…”
Somehow using “surviving a literal attempted genocide” as an example feels like aiming too low.
“So I dunno, maybe I just have more faith in humanity?”
This is such a cop-out.
@Moogue
Just yesterday I saw David tweet that the Democrats actually don’t have to nominate Biden. Many of the responses to that basically told him to shut up and accept it. That’s not exactly the kind of thing I see and think, “Hey, maybe if I support these people then I can help save democracy.” Not that I have a choice, since I’m not American.
As morbidly fascinating as your responses have become, I’d rather not go further down this rabbit hole of you continuing to argue with a straw leftist instead of an actual person, because it’s already come pretty close to “shithole country” territory. Instead I’ll just comment on where all this started, when you opened with, “If anyone thinks that this country can survive another 4 years of Trunp’s presidency.” I took issue with what this seemed to imply. Are you going to give up if Trump wins or something?
At this point I can’t believe I’m the one saying this, but state, local, and congressional races are all still just as important as the presidential election. Trump can say all he wants that he’s a dictator, as he’s already done many times already, but we’ve seen everyone from activists to state governors pushing back. Yes, every moment that the Republicans are regarded as being in charge of the federal U.S. government will make everything that much harder, but that’s not the same as not surviving. It can’t be the end, even if we have to get creative about it.
@An Impish Pepper
I do not agree with the people who told him to shut up, but I do realize that the chance of someone other than Biden being nominated is extremely low. I did not engage in that conversation.
Maybe I’m misreading you, but it sounds like you think Trump is not very bad. Let me give an analogy:
I would very much prefer to not get cancer. If I got cancer, I would do my best to live as I have before, but it would be harder to do many things while receiving treatment and I might die. As a result, I’m trying to avoid getting cancer by avoiding carcinogens and having regular medical examinations. I don’t know where anyone said that they would give up, I think people are pointing out that Trump winning again would be very bad and that we’re trying to avert that.
I recognize their importance, but I don’t think it’s accurate to say it is as important. Dictators tend to wreak havoc no matter who the lower level leaders are, and in the US the president has far more power than governors as is, and that’s even without him being an outright dictator. I don’t think anyone here is saying not to vote in those races, but I think we’re focusing on the presidential election because that is a singular race. Even if the Senate goes blue and the Democrats hold the House, Trump can use executive orders to cause harm and there is no chance of Democrats having the Senate supermajority needed to remove from office.
I mean I don’t know how else I can rhetorically dance around to convince people that I think Trump is extremely bad. I just take issue with someone posting in a progressive-leaning blog with a fair amount of left-leaning people and basically daring people to say we’ll be all right if Trump wins. I’m baffled as to what the point of this is other than to provide a thinly veiled excuse to rag on non-liberals yet again, and the subsequent responses have provided more evidence toward this belief. The refusal to budge on this in the slightest even when I try to talk about voting accessibility, while taking every opportunity to insinuate that I’m a misogynist, is simply asinine, and I very much regret taking so much effort into satiating my morbid curiosity on investigating a question I already knew the answer to.
“I’m baffled as to what the point of this is other than to provide a thinly veiled excuse to rag on non-liberals yet again,”
The point was to share an interesting article on how Trump is basically dismantling the checks to our system of checks and balances. I thought some people may like to read the article, or not.
Also who’s a non-liberal?
“while taking every opportunity to insinuate that I’m a misogynist,
To be clear, I’m not implying that you’re a misogynist, I don’t think that you’re a misogynist, I just think that you’re dangerously naive, which is probably a far more offensive accusation anyway. Anytime I ask a straight question about a concrete problem like how we’re going to provide safe abortions in a country that may criminalize women that are “suspiciously” vaginally hemmorhaging, and seem to get “use your imagination” as an answer, red flags go up for me.
Maybe it’s just me.
“As morbidly fascinating as your responses have become, I’d rather not go further down this rabbit hole of you continuing to argue with a straw leftist instead of an actual person”
To be fair, you did tell me to use my imagination. Give me some credit, I’m trying here!