By David Futrelle
So the incels are hailing Spongebob Squarepants as a bluepilled version of themselves. Over on Incels.co, one commenter has this to say about the underwater icon:
I suppose this is a step in the right direction; Spongebob may not be the idea role model but he’s certainly better than the mass killers the incels generally lionize.
Of course, the incels responding to Gymletethnicel’s post eagerly await Spongebob’s ultimate “blackpilling,” his acceptance of the incel ideology of bitterness, despair, and death. And of course they imagine him going “ER” — Elliot Rodger — and shooting up the Krusty Krab fast food joint.
“Final episode of SpongeBob: he either ropes or goes ER,” writes one commenter.
“First he kills Sandy, then goes postal at the Krusty Krab and then shoots himself,” adds another.
Still others speculate about the other characters on the show. According to Slavcel11,
patrick would be a blackpilled uglycel who don’t want his youth be wasted away on wageslaving and crawling before a haughty uncultured foid that is sandy.
btw squidward is too blackpilled on the society even for an incel.
But a prolific Incels.co commenter called Sparrow’s Song has a somewhat different take on the show.
The show is actually Jewish propaganda designed to convince incels to go gay. Obviously, Patrick and Spongebob are both ugly and disabled mentally and physically… they will die alone if they pursue foids. If they were blackpilled, they would just go ER or rope. Too bad the show is cucked. The show depicts them as “best friends” because back then, they couldn’t just have gay poop dick sex relationships on children’s shows like they do now. The writers want ugly and autistic male children to engage in homosexual buttfuckery at a young age.
That’s why I watched Rocko’s Modern Life instead when I was a kid. My dad liked that show but hated Spongebob. He didn’t let me watch Spongebob. In his own words “you’re not watching Spongebob because Sponegbob is a faggot”.
Well, that’s enough Incels.co for one day.
H/T — Twitter’s @EyesOnTheRight, the dude behind the Angry White Men blog
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@Knitting Cat Lady
If they did, they probably wouldn’t be incels. To be that hateful one must either be devoid of grasping other people’s viewpoints or simply fully ignorant.
O/T: The BBC has made a documentary about MRAs. Of course, MRAs being MRAs, the central character claims he is being silenced despite getting a massive platform (the BBC). I haven’t watched it, but I noticed it exists.
This is at least the second highly questionable documentary the BBC has aired lately. A few months ago it was a series of documentaries about detransitioners that was panned for not interviewing any trans* people who were satisfied with their transitions, and only talking to TERFs, detransitioners, and other anti-trans groups.
@ Snowberry:
If anyone in Bikini Bottom is going to go on a rampage, my money’s on Squidward.
Spongebob is too well-adjusted to be an incel. Also, I’m no marine biologist, but I’m pretty sure starfish, seasponges and most non-mammalian aquatic creatures never have actual intercourse. They either reproduce asexually or just release their eggs and sperm into the ocean current.
Putting the cart before the horse. There’s a reason intellectual and emotional maturity is stressed as important amd necessary before sexual activity is acceptable, and even “adult” incels clearly flunked development several steps ago.
O/T, but David might want to look into this for a post:
Some TERF (coletteub44) has a…interesting post history. A few weeks ago, she posted on r/GC to complain how it was hard to find a man who wasn’t into trans* women. Since then, she has repeatedly posted on r/AskMen and various sex-related subreddits to ask why men are interested in trans* women (getting her posts deleted very quickly by mods after they figured out what was going on). But the icing on the cake was when a week later she posted on r/GC to talk about the results of her “research.” Her post (TW: transphobia, biphobia) complains that men aren’t attracted just to vaginas anymore and see women as more than genitals, and that it’s hard to find men into just vaginas now. She also claimed that straight women are disgusted by vaginas and could never be interested in trans* men (which seems to be projection more than anything else).
Her fellow TERFs had a mixed response. While a few said that consenting adults should be left to their own, a number claimed that straight men dating trans* women were secretly bi, were virtue-signaling (using that exact phrase), or were trans* women with sockpuppet accounts.
I thought one of the long term goals of feminism was for women to be seen as more than vaginas. I guess I was wrong. /s
All joking aside, it is surreal how TERFs think they are still feminist while saying this.
@Genjones
Sea sponges can reproduce sexually or asexually, so you are correct. Either way, they don’t have intercourse.
There was an episode where Spongebob felt romantic attraction…but most fans prefer not to talk about it.
Personally, I’m surprised they don’t sympathize with Squidward. He’s also not romantically involved, and society constantly shits on him the way incels claim society is shitting on them.
Considering how warped incels’ ideas about human attractiveness, one of them describing Patrick as “uglycel” would immediately have me expecting him to be a pretty normal-looking starfish even if I’d never seen a picture of him.
@Naglfar
As far as I know, they also don’t go around bashing other sea sponges and blaming the ecosystem or what have you for all of their problems, so I imagine incles can’t relate.
Lots of self-delusion, even more hate, and a smug sense of superiority.
Naglfar – I checked out that Redditor.
She seems to be a very unhappy person who wants to be the cause of unhappiness in others.
Hey, that sounds a lot like most incels.
Regarding the OP, the general degree of realism in “Spongebob” is indicated by the presence of open flames at the bottom of the sea.
Off topic, I know, but at least two major news outlets are reporting Kim Jong Un is in a vegetative state if not already dead.
@TB Tabby
I played clarinet in high school. As pretty much any clarinetist in the last 20 years can tell you, the Squidward comparisons are ever-present and get old fast.
@Robert
TERFs and incels have a lot in common. They both seem to generally hate everyone who doesn’t agree with them, have a persecution complex, and love collectively moaning about how everyone else sucks. They even use similar language (“adult human female” vs “femoid”).
@Chris O
I heard. If that’s true, I’m not sure what the North Korean government will do next, seeing as his children are young so I’m not sure who the next leader will be.
@Naglfar
His sister, a military junta, or the country dissolves completely are the leading bets. Possibly sequentially.
It seems weird to me that people are accepting that Kim Jong Un had some sort of cardiac event because he is (was?) fat and a smoker. I mean, he was in his thirties. I know people can die of a cardiac event at young ages, but still. I can’t help wondering if it was poison or something. Or maybe Covid-19, which they’re apparently pretending hasn’t been a problem in North Korea even though it reportedly is. Idk. Just speculation.
@Genjones
I read that some cephalopods like cuttlefish have the male produce a little “packet” of sperm, which he offers to the female with his little tentacle arms. If she accepts it, she takes it with her little tentacle arms, then tucks it away in a pouch so that she can impregnate herself with it later.
It’s all terribly civilized.
@Naglfar
That a TERF would claim to be feminist while also complaining about men seeing women as more than their genitals is perhaps the most perfect example of how they are really Feminism-Appropriating Reactionary Transphobes (FARTs). (I love that term so much.)
@Allandrel
They’re not the same as cephalopods, but among seahorses the males carry the eggs after fertilization. As a result, I’ve seen jokes about if instead of mpreg (male pregnancy) erotica seahorses would have fpreg (female pregnancy) media.
It’s a good term also because when one shows up in your comments section you can say “I smell a FART.” It’s sophomoric, but it gets the point across. Of course, fewer people know what it means, but they have yet to declare it a “slur” like they have with TERF. A few have even started claiming that “gender critical,” a name they chose for themselves, is a slur, but I don’t believe the majority think this because their main subreddit is still r/GenderCritical.
@Naglfar:
And now we even have one complaining about being unable to find a partner who meets their standards.
It figures that when we finally found a female incel, she’d turn out to be a TERF.
@miscellaneous:
Case growth under 4% for the first time in Ontario today. Maybe we’re finally getting it under control? But we need sustained negative case growth rate, and we’re not there yet …
Meanwhile I’m hearing more and more horror stories about complications, particularly clotting disorders. Some people as young as 33 having strokes after contracting the virus. Makes me wonder if that’s what got Kim Jong-Un. Which leads to a whole new kettle of worries: the potential for loose nukes depending on what happens next there.
Thoughts and prayers for Dennis Rodman at this difficult time.
@weirwood
Could be some kind of congenital heart defect or the result of some previous illness. Viruses are notorious for damaging the heart if you don’t rest long enough after getting better.
If it was poison, it probably was someone close to him.
I think that if Kim is actually dead, this will be what will lead to the collapse of North Korea eventually.
He’s just managed to consolidate his power, he doesn’t have kids, and the line of succession is up in the air.
I’d guess his sister would take power immediately, but I doubt the military would accept being ruled by a woman. They’d probably back a male descendant of Kim Il-Sung. And different parts of the military would probably back different Kims. Leading to civil war.
@Knitting Cat Lady
Kim Jong-Il only had one other surviving male descendant and that is Kim Jong-Chul, who was passed over in favor of Jong-Un. Apparently Jong-Chul is a musician and is not involved in politics, but it’s possible he’d be called back in to take the place of his brother.
I have never seen Spongebob so I don’t really know what they’re going on About. It’s a children’s cartoon about a community of sea creatures centred around a burger restaurant, is that right?
I didn’t have access to much TV as a teen/20s because we couldn’t afford anything but standard terrestrial TV. I only saw Firefly in 2014, for instance. I’ve never got around to catching up on all the TV I missed because I was too busy reading and surviving. And to be honest, I can only focus on one thing at a time, so it’s either watch something or read something, and I have far too many books on my TBR pile to spend time on TV.
Unless it’s QI or Sewing Bee. And even then I crochet or embroider because I can’t have empty, still hands.
My grasp of ‘incel speak’ is as limited as my understanding of TV from the 1990s and 2000s. But I do understand that they’re being ignorant, homophobic and engaging in a bit of autistic hate while they’re at it.
Horrible creatures.
Talking of horrible creatures, it’s interesting news about Kim Jong – Un. First time I’ve heard the news. I might have a look around the Web to see what I can find. I hope North Korea doesn’t implode, for the sake of the people there, but if he is dead then I hope there can be changes, just not sudden that’ll cause more distress and harm than the existence of the Kims already has done.
@Nanny Oggs Bosom
There’s a lot of anti-autism crap among incels. I think part of it is that some are autistic (or think they are) and are both extremely self-loathing but also see it as an excuse for being assholes. Combine that with the alt-right’s hatred of autistic people and you get the phenomenon we see here.
@Knitting Cat Lady:
I dunno. The DPRK military are subordinate to the OGD (Organization and Guidance Department). This has been around since 1946, but it was remodelled by Kim Jong-il when Kim Il-sung gave him its leadership in 1973. Kim Jong-il, a really smart operator, developed it into an outfit which would give him almost unlimited power, even while Kim Il-sung was officially Great Leader. OGD sees everything (think Stasi). OGD section 13 is responsible for military guidance (including indoctrination), and section 4 is responsible for military appointments. While Kim Jong-il ran the OGD, any general who stepped out of line was likely to end up in jail or dead. Admittedly, I don’t know Kim Jong-un’s relationship with the OGD, but there are defectors who claim that the OGD really runs the country, and KJU is just a figurehead.
(Source: North Korea Confidential, Daniel Tudor and James Pearson)
@Naglfar
In my experience, there is a direct correlation between someone’s autism being self-diagnosed and them using autism as an excuse for being an asshole. I do not think that this correlation is coincidental.
And, of course, the anti-autistic stereotype of “autistic-asshole” that pervades media (e.g., Sheldon Cooper) just gives them ammunition for this excuse.
Is there a particular reason to think that Jong-un’s sister would have a much harder time taking the position by account of being a woman? Considering North Korea has been so isolated for so long, I’m not sure what kinds of cultural analysis would even apply to the succession line of a communist-offshoot autocracy.
Also, lots of people self-identify as autistic. Part of it is the neurodiversity movement trying to move society in general away from medicalization of different ways of being, and part of it is how specifically lacking the definitions and process of autism diagnoses are. There are still “functioning levels” in the DSM-V, but so-called “low-functioning” autistic people have demonstrated that they’re capable of roughly as much functioning as anybody else, given their access needs are actually met.
I think a lot of mollusks have sex. In addition to the aforementioned cephalopods, most gastropods have some form of intercourse and internal fertilization as well. Of course, some form could equal something very different from what mammals are familiar with. In nudibranchs, both hermaphroditic animals fertilize each other’s eggs, or sometimes only one acts as the male, and they can store sperm in each other for months before the eggs actually develop.
In addition, among many marine creatures that have external fertilization, there is still some form of sex where a specific male fertilizes a specific female’s eggs as they are produced.
As someone who is an autistic straight man myself, and now apparently happily married and sexual, something I wasn’t sure I was interested in before I met my wife, I wholeheartedly agree that the stereotype of autistic men as creepy and boundary-breaking in relationships with women is something that is pushed by media and by “self-diagnosed” autistic males. It hurts the many men with autism who do try very hard to be decent and respect people’s boundaries.
I struggled with the idea of entering into a relationship for a long time, because I worried that I was doomed to be like the “autistic” men on television and the internet, and I knew that their behavior was not ok and not something I wanted to emulate. Was I being a creepy stalker like them and not realizing it? Add to that that I didn’t actually know whether I was even interested in a sexual relationship. I ran from people for years.