By David Futrelle
Social Distancing, however necessary in the fight against the coronavirus, is going to be hard for most of us.
But there are some who are positively thrilled about the shutdowns of schools and bars and international travel. Over on the Incels.co forums the regulars were already excited about the coronavirus possibly killing off Stacies and Chads; they’re also feeling pretty darn good that shutdowns and social distancing mean they won’t have to see the Stacies and Chads who remain alive.
Yesterday, a gentleman called Hardworkingcel posted this:
Incels, always happy to sacrifice the lives of others if it makes them feel even a teensy bit better for a little while.
And it isn’t just Hardworkingcel who’s feeling a new spring in his step; many of his fellow incels are even more excited by the new developments than he is.
“The more deaths, the better, the less competition,” wrote a commenter called Koruga.
“Corona is the best thing thats ever happened to me tbh,” someone called Venomcore noted.
CrackingYs, meanwhile, gushed:
I’ve honestly never been happier in my life. I can’t wait to wake up each morning anxious and excited to read about all the new ways that normies lives are being destroyed. Day after day their suffering intesifies and my anxiety decreases and overal happiness increases.
The future is bright indeed my frens.
Incels, it seems, can only truly be happy when others are suffering.
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I was about to ask to hear more about @Jessie bellanger’s anti feminist community (in Chicago! I’ve read a book about that place!), since I’m sure it totally does something worthwhile and is a real thing, but then I realised it’s probably a Facebook page where you can complain if a woman hurts your feelings and if that’s the case there probably is nothing interesting about it.
@Joker
Bullfeathers, dude. Terminally ill patients don’t all use their diagnosis as an excuse to rejoice in the suffering of others, with or without scare quotes.
To quote a person who died too soon, “It’s chaos; be kind.” (Wondering how many other people will recognize this quote.)
I’d be interested in knowing how many will work NOW… NOT interested enough to want to find out, tho.
As a lifelong sufferer from depression, I have to say that the above very much does not match my experience.
@VP: she did die too soon. I wish she’d gotten to see what she helped accomplish.
If there’s nothing in your life to look forward to except death, you need to get yourself a therapist and a hobby. That’s the sort of thinking I occasionally fall into at the very depths of my depression – and even then I wouldn’t be made happy by someone else’s suffering. It’s absolutely not a normal or proportionate response to not having a sexual partner.
There’s more to life than sex, and pinning this much on it is seriously off-balance, while also being pretty much guaranteed to scare off any potential partner.
@Masse_Mysteria
Please, it’s a community UNIT. That makes it military-like and serious! Or is it a Anti Feminist-community unit, since community is a bad thing and a unit a good thing. Or a Anti-Feminist community-unit?
So many questions…
@TheKND, “unit” can also be slang for penis. A “community unit” would be some kind of shared penis, like in the Soviet Union.
@Moggie
Or it’s the ultra-manly way to refer to one’s friends.
“We aren’t BFFs, we’re a community unit!”
@Joker
This page counts as “the media”? Congrats, David. I didn’t know you were so prominent 😉
If that’s your attitude, you can hardly blame people for “bashing” you. You’re literally saying that the suffering of other people is all you have to live for. Is it any wonder we don’t like you? Would you want to hang out with someone who’s only goal was to make you suffer?
You’re producing a self-fulfilling prophecy. It doesn’t have to be that way; you’re making it that way.
I recommend therapy. Did me a world of good. For one, it made it clear how I was sabotaging myself. Once I got that, I could just stop. It was surprisingly easy.
Honestly, my life improved so much, so quickly, I was shocked. Looking back, it’s only been like 5-6 years. There was a time I thought I wouldn’t last that long. Instead, it’s been the best years of my life. No joke. I’m happier now than I can ever remember being.
Please take a moment and consider that you might be wrong. It doesn’t have to be this bad. Please give yourself a chance to improve your life. You might be surprised how well it goes.
Why does it seem like the trolls are just phoning it in on this thread?
Too obviously trolling to be anything but dull….
@Yutolia
Well said!
@Lainy
Thanks for the hint. I wasn’t trying to slutshame or play wild with terminology but rather contextualize with a bit of a medical background. You see, the sharp devision between STD and STI…does not appear that sharp to me. Take herpes simplex which contributes a lot to spreading the more serious diseases by weakening the imune system. Also, if you accept that the social act of kissing someone should be included in a consequentialist (thus analytical) model – then publicly kissing can produce both babies and STD/STIs. I normally don’t care, think that love should be abundant yet not boundless (gotta keep consent informed and enthusiastic) and keep my more problematic slutshamey thoughts to myself, but since I currently have to restrict myself to basically self-love, I would claim that anyone who has a lot of sex currently is probably either doing things completly different and likely much better – or just plain wrong. My danger-check triggered by unexpected intimate contact is working overtime but people here in Germany are incompetent in dealing with infection anyhow. So I dunno. Are you ok with all that?
@joker
Yes, all incels are the same. Either decided not to be an incel, of accept that you are just a cookie cutter piece of shit just like the others. Die mad about it <3
@Lisa, I’m not sure I understand you, but I don’t have the energy right now so okay honey. I figured you weren’t trying to slutshame, I just wanted you to see how it sounded to others.
Also just joining in against the joker dude. As someone with complex ptsd, and who’s life was nothing but suffering for a while. enjoying the suffering of others? was not a thing? Hell I even encouraged a girl who was bullying me in highschool to go to report a boy who was sexually harassing her when I found about it because no one deserves that. In fact when another of one of those girls who use to kick me when I was done and trying to get out of an abusive relationship, told me it was my fault, all that bullshit, she fell into one after highscool. moved in with him, had to escape with very little and rush back to her family. she tried to contact me on Facebook after all this and even after that, even though seeing her messinging me gave me a panic attack, I told her that I was glad she got away from him, that I hope that never happens to her again, because no one deserves that abuse. Also told her as politely as I could that she hurt me a lot and while I wish no ill will on her ever, I don’t want her in my life.
I found it more ironic that someone who had made me feel worse about being abused, ended up discovering how abusive relationships happen first hand. Does that mean I enjoyed her suffering? no, not at all. In fact I hope she find happiness and love someday, a respectful, loving partner that everyone deserves because no one deserves abuse.
Man, it’s a good thing women are immune to coronavirus or that would be a really stupid line of reasoning.
@Joker
Really?
So incels have nothing to look forward to except death? And because of that they enjoy the suffering of others? Dude, this is why feminists complain about incels: it’s because they enjoy the suffering of others, and they display this trait all the time online. So when it comes to human decency, all incels are the same — they lack it. (And I’m very much enjoying the quote marks around the word suffering. Only incels suffer minus the quote marks. Everyone who isn’t an incel gets quote marks: “suffering.” Got it.)
Oh wait, my bad. You’re a Joker! Now I see that your rant was very amusing.
@Jessie Bellanger
Please tell me more.
@TheKND
I stand corrected. Now that I realise how official and well-organised this thing truly is, I second Kat. We simply must learn more of this Unit and the the things that made it so Jessie bellanger simply had to form it.
@Masse_Mysteria, @TheKND
I’m on the edge of my seat. What feminist outrages led Jessie to form this unit? How many members does it have? What do they do? I mean, it can’t be that it’s a one-person group (Jessie) who just yells stuff online, can it?
@Lainy
CN: Trauma, transphobia, sexism,
It’s ok, you are a good guy. Truth is I sometimes color a little outside the lines as it where because mainstream feminism has traumatized me a bit and I’m not ready to give up on trans exclusive feminists for the moment. We need to win them over some day in order to protect trans, dya, inter and cis kids and youth. Also, the menz, because those of you who, like you, got the right idea about life, women and the universe and everything should be cherished and empowered, I think. In a crisis this means that I sometimes sound a bit like the trolls and get rightfully criticized for that — but since I am basically used to defending my right to exist 24/7 this is sorta expected and can even be relaxing. Yeah, my life is weird.
Also, your story sounds horrible and if you want to talk about being a survivor / experienced in enduring abuse / however you want to call it, feel free to chat me up / dm me on twitter or negotiate a private channel there, I’m chaossprite there and I like being ironic and analyzing the irony and paradoxes of life. I’m not yet qualified to be a therapist, but I have some experience in talking to people in similar situations as me regardless.
@Lisa, I think maybe you’re wrongly assuming Lainy is a bloke?
(incidentally, afaik her use of “honey” is a regional thing – mentioned it a while back, iirc – so although some of us “hear” it in a negative tone in our mind’s ear, I just remind myself that it’s part of her idiolect (like my idiolect has “bloke” in it rather than, say, “guy”). Not saying you ‘should’ have known that, or anything, just to let you know :-))
‘scuse the quick fly-by, I’m (or I ought to be) getting back to work now ::waves virtually to Mammotheers::
Where I come from it is very common for a woman to call a stranger, both men, women, children honey or sugar to show that you are open and friendly to them. I always do it as first nature to show someone that I am not trying to be hostile to them. I forget a lot that to others it can sound condescending.