By David Futrelle
On Wednesday night, a gunman opened fire on patrons at two separate hookah bars in Hanau, Germany, killing nine; he and his elderly mother were later found dead in his apartment.
Like many mass shooters today, he left behind a manifesto (link available on request), one that revealed him to be a genocidal racist and eugenicist who wanted the people in a wide swath of countries — from North Africa all the way to the Philippines — to be wiped off the face of the earth. His massacre — which seems to have been directed at Turkish immigrants, the main patrons of the bars he chose to target — was his way of getting attention to his genocidal ideas.
He also wove a strange and paranoid tale about his own life, claiming that he had been monitored since birth by a shadowy agency eager to hear and capitalize on his thoughts. He claims, among other things, that the Iraq and Afghanistan wars were his idea, that Donald Trump stole his slogan “America First,” and that he came up with the basic premises of a number of Hollywood movies and TV shows, from “Look Who’s Talking,” “The Cell,” and “Prison Break.” He also believes that the “invisible people” monitoring him can read (and control) minds. This portion of his manifesto reads less like a political declaration than the ramblings of a paranoid schizophrenic.
The 43-year-old shooter also made a few remarks, almost in passing, suggesting that he had never had a girlfriend, and some have taken this to mean that he was an “incel” This non-factual “fact” has made it into several news stories so far, and even onto Wikipedia,with The Sun describing him in a headline as an “‘Incel’ terrorist” and offering up a potted history of the incel movement to explain his rage. Meanwhile, The Independent (which should know better) made the contradictory claim that he
identified as an “incel”, and wrote that he had not been in a relationship with a woman, out of choice, for the past 18 years.
You can see the problem immediately; this is a claim that rebuts itself. “Incel” stands for “involuntary celibate”; anyone who claims to be celibate by choice is by definition not an incel. The shooter claims that in his younger years, from his mid-teens through his early twenties, he simply could not find a girlfriend who lived up to his exacting standards. “[T]o take a less good looking woman,” he wrote, “was out of the question – I wanted the best or nothing.”
In the years since then, he claimed that he remained single because “I know that I’m being monitored.”
There is no trace of the incel ideology anywhere in the shooter’s manifesto — no incel lingo, no rants against too-picky “femoids”or too-handsome Chads, no disquisitions on some lost golden age when every good man was able to date and ultimately marry his “looksmatch.” Unlike incels, the shooter did not blame women for rejecting him, nor (as far as we can tell from the manifesto) did he blame society for encouraging these women to “ride the cock carousel” with everyone but him.
Incel ideology is all about cultivating a deep sense of grievance toward women and feminism; the shooter’s grievances were directed at immigrants and Muslims and people of color generally — mostly North Africans, Middle Easterners, and South Asians — and at the people he imagined were monitoring him. If the shooter was even aware of the incel movement, there’s no evidence of it in the manifesto itself.
Indeed, though one imagines the shooter was radicalized at least in part online, as every right-wing extremist seems to be these days, there’s little in his manifesto suggesting just where, online or off, he got any of his ideas. There are no references to other mass shooters, no mention of the “great replacement” theory or the alt-right vision of “white genocide”, no sly allusions to 4chan memes. And while he lists Israel as one of the countries whose people deserve to die en masse, his conspiracy theories make no mention of Jews at all. A brief video he made aimed at Americans referred to an underground network of satanic baby-abusers, but made no reference to Pizzagate or QAnon.
In short, he’s given those us trying to make sense of his motivations plenty to work with. But, while his genocidal racism is certainly clear and obvious, he remains in many ways a mystery — and will remain so unless and until we find more evidence of his beliefs.
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I’m about as white as you can get if you don’t count like the drop of native American that comes from a couple great great greats back when my iris ancestries came to America to escape the famine and one of those gals fell in love with a native American man, they ran off with each other and started the long path that would lead to me, only thing I’ve got from that side of him was some high cheek bones and brown eyes.
Yet I have been called a “ghoul” as a play on girl since I was in 7th grade then up till my senior year of high school because I was the definition of a weird little girl meme. Still for some reason remember the creep that would make a point to tell me he wasn’t looking for a “ghoulfriend” every time I fought back against his abuse. So yeah, semen balls is reaching I think.
Also the middle eastern kids or exchange students would get called terrorist or “sand n words”
SRLO was much more entertaining before he got on the persecution train. Please go back to the weird semen mysticism and stop blaming all the darkness in human history on white women.
@Naglfar
A rising Global Left Wing could have been constructed at least 20 years back , if it was not for the intransigency of the White Left…now, the Left is just caught up in fire fighting mode…We face Global challenges which will disproportionately affect non-white people…It’s time to drop pretense and sees ourselves as what we really are—>stakeholders of this entire planet …nuclear clouds or natural catastrophes won’t respect immigration laws and the boundaries of “sovereign” nations…What we are in store for is 500x worse than the 2004 Boxing Day Tsunami
Why can’t the Left counter the smooth talk of the Right? Right Wing hypocrite upstarts like Nick Fuentes have started to feel for black people only now …Only now Right Wing men have started to “feel” that black people constitue one of the three historic groups of Americans along with “whites” and “native Americans”…BS BS BS BS……These men want to have black people especially black men as a permanent underclass over whom they can lord and terrorize in perpetuity…should blacks so easily forgive “one drop rule” insinuating in turn that black blood is inherently wrong?
These men are afraid that blacks may collaborate with the new and old brownsin order to be freed from forced servitude that has plagued them in the American nation for so long..Black men are to this day wrongly jailed because the white elite is afraid that armed black men may form militias to fight for an independent black nation on the North American continent..The Toyota War of the 1980s scared the living daylights of the Global White Elite…Here was a black nation equipped with little other than pick up trucks and assault rifles taking on an army armed to the teeth with the best of modern weapons and still winning…what are the things that are abundant in America? Pick up trucks and assault rifles….so began the mass incarceration of black men to abort the Birth of a Nation…the Birth of the Black Nation
anyways I digressed too far
I think I wrote extensively in the previous thread what I do regarding helping individual lives
@Catalpa
History is replete with references regarding the consequences of insulting non-white men with animal-like epithets
genocide,pogrom,slavery,forced labour soon follows
Am I wrong to nip that problem in the bud?
@Lainy
go ahead..as long as you are okay about hurting his chances of being able to provide you with the best possible life, I have no problem with it
@Semen
I don’t need him to provide for me, I’m a adult, with a job and in school to get a career. You misogyne is showing really well now dude.
” Oh no! how will I ever go on if a big strong man can’t provide for me! I am such an invalid I can’t possibly make a life for myself or build a life with him! oh no you have shown me the error of my ways oh brave semen boy!”
@Lainy
I wish you the very best with your school and career
Sure he doesn’t …but it just helps you sleep better at night that you have two good earning heads instead of one….A well rested sleep should not be the privilege of the powerful
@ semen
He’s a marine dude. He never really sleeps until he’s home. In fact him not being stressed and in the hyper masculine culture of the Marines and sexually frustrated actually helps him a lot so yeah me calling him to have a wank session before bed is actually good for him.
Also nice back peddling there.
Also again sleep only for the powerful? Am I the powerful because of my white skin? It certainly makes me more privilege then those who don’t have it but he actually sleeps better then me most nights. Most of my sleep is either insomnia, night terrors, anxiety and some times full screaming. Yup I’m certainly powerful my dude.
Wait, I’m confused, is this something that’s been happening since time immemorial or something you’re trying to stop as it starts?
It’s ever increasingly laughable to claim that the semen retention community is not misogynistic. Coming into a thread about a male mass murderer and derailing the conversation into a discussion of whether women are bad and men’s crimes are all our fault is classic MRA.
-6/10
SRLO lost points fast.
Well mine certainly can be an animal. It’s one of the reasons i fell in love with him so fast?
Also “whites” have not existed since time immemorial. Whiteness as an identity only goes back a few hundred years.
That’s not to racism didn’t exist before that, but racism changes with time and culture to suit whatever the privileged need.
I’d go with 3/10; points for SGP, but not logic, or arguments in good faith.
@Lainy
my warmest regards to your husband…I wish both of the very best of conjugal life till the time comes to step into the Great Beyond
I apologize for having any opinion whatsoever on what happens between both of you in the marital bed.That intimacy is sacred and any outsider should not have any opinion on it whatsoever..Moreover marriage brings it with its own blessings, spiritual protection and rewards
@Catalpa
I am trying to stop the use of such non-human epithets for non-white men in this thread…obviously the wider world is beyond my control
This guy really wants to play oppression Olympics. Let’s not, ok, dude? I understand you’ve experienced oppression. That sucks! It doesn’t bar us, however, from examining and criticizing your terrible ideas. Also, there are many groups aside from white women that have been simultaneously oppressed AND complicit in oppression of others. This is not an excuse and it isn’t ok, but it does happen. One example: the lack of acceptance of bi and pan people by more ‘traditional’ lesbians and gays. Yes, those people are oppressed, and they are simultaneously oppressing other groups.
@Yutolia
You should tell white men that it is white men who committed the world’s largest mass rape on white women at the end of the 2nd world war…black or brown men had nothing to do with it…it’s funny how modern german and russian men tend to ally themselves in order to fight black and brown men, when it is one group that terrorized the women of the other group barely three generations back
@semen
So white woman who are raped by men of color don’t matter because their a smaller number? As a member of that number go fuck yourself. Maybe you won’t be such a dick then.
Ummmmmm? Really? We’ve been trying to tell white men this for a long time. Have you read any other parts of this blog?
@SRLO
Nobody is saying that atrocities haven’t been committed. Men definitely have done awful things in the past and present. I’m not sure what this has to do with what Yutolia said.
@Lainy
I am extremely sorry and sincere apologies if you thought that was refrain of my argument ..women have had a bad deal meted out to them since the rise of agriculture—that is undeniable…What I am saying is that for the longest time being white even while being a woman would have afforded one life saving privileges that would not have been available if one were to be non-white even while being a man
The major reason the US as a country doesn’t talk about those mass rapes is because we have refused to acknowledge ANY soviet involvement in the war at all other than ‘the Russians were useless and Germans were beaten by the winter and that’s all, no more to that story, don’t talk about anything, the US saved the entire world single-handedly because we’re magic and special!!!!’
Most Americans don’t talk about the mass rapes because a lot of them don’t even know they happened.
But, like Naglfar said, I also don’t know really what this has to do with what I said earlier. Also, it’s still not my responsibility to educate white men about their bullshit.
The Sun wants to paint him as an incel terrorist rather than a far right racist, you say? Gee. I wonder why that is.
I can see the argument for that.
But it is one thing to go “hey, dehumanizing insults have been disproportionately been used against POC, can we avoid the use of non-human epithets?”
And a completely different thing to go “Aha! That word that has no established racial connotations is actually a slur with tons of historical baggage (which I shall not elaborate on)! You are clearly a huge racist and I don’t need to listen to you any more!”
Wait, so Western (which you seem to be using as a synonym for ‘white’, even though it isn’t) women were oppressed before Obama? Or does the mass rape not count as oppression because the Holocaust happened around that time and only one group can be oppressed at a time?
@SRLO – what the hell, friend. What the actual hell.
Why would you think this thread was the one to be horrible in?
Re: ‘white’ as an idea – in the last thread, i called him out on this, and linked to the wiki page talking about it. If he doesn’t know by now, it’s because he’s willfully ignoring information that contradicts his beliefs. I even gave hin the term he could use – ruling class – and he ignored me. Guess it wasn’t racially charged enough for him.
Louder, so he can maybe read it – THE IDEA OF BEING ‘WHITE’ IS FAIRLY NEW.
Re: ghoul – you said
I’m wondering if i should believe that when you were confronted with a word that accurately described your actions, and then had the definition explained, you again stuck your fingers in your ears so you could continue to live in the world you created.
Words mean things. Ghoul has nothing to do with animals.
Here is the definition:
You’re the second.
Re: him bringing up atrocoties – this is what he DOES. He can’t find a rebuttal for a good point, so he tries to distract with something horrible.
SRLO – You’re pretty transparently a person with terrible ideas.
ETA – right, Obama! Forgot about that. How does ‘women have only been oppressed since Obama’ square with
?
Could it be that, yet again, your philosophy isn’t internally consistent? Could it also be that you’ll ignore that, rather than trying to figure it out?
@semen
I don’t trust you but I will accept your apology because I believe it to be sincere at least.
To be clear men do not rape because of the color of their skin. Men rape because they are allowed to do so by society. I will never hold all men of color accountable because of one’s crimes against me.
@Yutolia
Or because for many of the mass rapes and genocides the US government actively worked to suppress knowledge of their existence. For example, the fact that the US government didn’t recognize the Armenian genocide as such until 2019, 105 years after it happened.
@Tabby Lavalamp
And even if he was an incel, the Venn diagram of these two groups is probably a set of concentric circles. There are far right racists who aren’t incels, but I have yet to see an incel who isn’t also extreme right wing and racist.