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“Women over 30 shouldn’t interest you unless you have an impure, sexually perverted mind,” declares man obsessed with his own semen

Hideous over-30 woman

By David Futrelle

Just like Men Going Their Own Way, who can’t stop talking about the women they’re ostensibly “going their own way” from, militant NoFappers can’t stop obsessing over the sexual appeal (or alleged lack thereof) of the women they’re definitely not masturbating over.

In the Semen Retention subreddit, one brave man recently offered his thoughts on which categories of women it’s acceptable to lust after, and it’s basically No Fatties, No Uglies, and no one over 30.

The average woman is becoming uninteresting to me. (self.Semenretention)

submitted 11 days ago by Acceptancehunter

I know what most people expect after they give up porn is to become attracted to 'average' women again and this is a sign of healthy sexuality.

I have gone through that but now I see myself becoming increasingly uninterested in women who are not naturally noticeably beautiful and young.

This includes girls who look fake or enhanced. I'm also finding my disgust response is going up when I look at women who are aged or overweight. In the past I would find something erotic about a women who was maybe middle aged or if they were not skinny I could be attracted to their curvature. Now I just have incredibly high standards, for me it skinny, pale and young looking. By young I mean healthy looking really (18-30) That's really what should turn you on though, women who are chubby, not pretty or over 30 shouldn't really be that interesting to you unless you have an impure sexually perverted mind. Unless they are strikingly attractive I just don't really notice them.

I don't expect this post to be agreed upon lol but this is what I'm feeling.

Don’t trust lust after anyone over 30.

As it turns out, Acceptancehunter here had no need to worry about his fellow semen retainers disagreeing with him, as most of the commenters were happy to endorse his rather skewed vision of the world.

“I see where you are coming from,” replied the aptly named shared_consciousness.

My perception of women and definition of attractiveness has completely changed since starting this journey 5 years ago.

Generally speaking, young women will be more attractive to us… because time has not yet given them the opportunity to become impure. Older women MAY have racked up many years of gross behavior. Especially true for Western women.

You know what’s actually gross? Old dudes speculating on the “purity” of the young women they’re horny for.

I find some “hot” young women very repulsive because they are unpure (huge ego, drinking, many s partners.. ). However i sometimes find older women extremely attractive, because they are pure (worship god, loyal to their partner, helping others, eating healthy…).

Does this guy honestly think he can determine the number of sexual partners a woman has had, or the sort of food she eats, just by looking at her?

A commenter called Santanabbts, meanwhile, added yet another category of women to the discard pile: women using contraceptives.

I would also like to add that: women who do not use contraception are much more attractive and feminine. I have observed this many times, I think that contraceptives spoil the delicate hormonal balance of women

HOW DO YOU KNOW WHO IS USING CONTRACEPTIVES. And which contraceptives are you talking about? Just the pill? Do IUDs count? The sponge? What about women who insist their partners use condoms?

Other commenters professed to be repulsed by pretty much all women.

“Since starting this journey,” Destrapo45 declared,

I see most women as manipulative creatures who often move you away from a path of righteousness. Plus besides sex you start to realize their a lil annoying.

Someone called Juiceshop changed the subject slightly, telling the story of a grocery store cashier who’s TOTALLY INTO HIM.

Last week the cashier girl in the market looked a moment at me so full of sexual wanting, nearly like a devil Haha. I found out that she found out about my profile as a musician.

I don’t like when they want you because they can smell fame and success. I want to meet smart and empathic women.

I don’t think that’s going to work out for you, chief. Any woman who could possibly be into you after hearing you spout this sort of drivel is by definition going to be foolish and oblivious.

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KindaSortaHarmless
KindaSortaHarmless
1 year ago

I think that contraceptives spoil the delicate hormonal balance of women

A pill a day keeps the creep away?

Full Metal Ox
1 year ago

For female purity-assessment purposes, does deliberate abstinence count as a form of contraception?

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

So, pale means “white” and he just didn’t want to sound too much like a Nazi, right?

Can I also take a second to scoff at the part about “naturally beautiful?” Because I guarantee what he thinks of as natural beauty takes a lot of makeup and effort.

Naglfar
Naglfar
1 year ago

Does this guy honestly think he can determine the number of sexual partners a woman has had, or the sort of food she eats, just by looking at her?

Well, he could always use the signs of whether she’s a virgin. /s

I would also like to add that: women who do not use contraception are much more attractive and feminine. I have observed this many times, I think that contraceptives spoil the delicate hormonal balance of women

This seems to be a fairly common sentiment in the manosphere. However, these are probably men who think that femininity is determined biologically (i.e. gender essentialism). Pill contraceptives often work through estrogen, which should by that definition make women more feminine. It’s completely inconsistent, but when were these dipshits ever consistent?

I want to meet smart and empathic women.

From what I know about semen retainers, what he actually wants is a submissive woman who validates him on everything. I’m guessing if he ran into an intelligent woman he’d hate her, and she’d hopefully be able to escape the situation.

My guess is these men are actually super horny, just also extremely misogynistic and possibly repressed.

Lainy
Lainy
1 year ago

I know this isn’t mentioned in the post but I’ve started to notice, somewhere along the lines, goth women with big breast has become the new fetish for these creeps and I’ve been getting a lot of weird shit because of it.

LindsayIrene
LindsayIrene
1 year ago

@Lainy

I can’t say that I’m sad about being about 25 years too late for the ‘big tiddy goth GF’ thing.

(I’m still goth inside.)

LollyPop
LollyPop
1 year ago

If there’s one thing that sucks in certain men, it’s the suggestion that their preference in sexual partners is somehow reflective of their superior personality. Like they are picking out a fancy wine and need everyone to know about it.

Naglfar
Naglfar
1 year ago

@LollyPop
It dehumanizes the women and reduces them to personal affects. I think that’s kind of the point, though.

Bina
1 year ago

I see most women as manipulative creatures who often move you away from a path of righteousness. Plus besides sex you start to realize their a lil annoying.

Funny, I’m starting to think the same thing about men. Except the ones who babble about a “path of righteousness”. Those are a LOT annoying.

I would also like to add that: women who do not use contraception are much more attractive and feminine. I have observed this many times, I think that contraceptives spoil the delicate hormonal balance of women

You haven’t observed shit, dude. You literally can’t tell anything about a woman’s hormones just by looking at her. Nobody ever found me hideous when I was on the Pill. And there are non-hormonal birth control methods, too. But thanks for letting the world know that you have a gross impregnation fetish. I’m sure there’s a look YOU get when you’re horny that creeps women out, too.

Last week the cashier girl in the market looked a moment at me so full of sexual wanting, nearly like a devil Haha. I found out that she found out about my profile as a musician.

COOL STORY, BRO.

Actually, I’ll bet she knows he’s a “musician” only because he told her. Repeatedly. And that look he thought was “sexual wanting” was just bewilderment…like, “Why the hell is he telling me this?” Because all she wanted to do was ring up his purchase and get him to move the hell on so the next customer wasn’t kept waiting.

I don’t like when they want you because they can smell fame and success. I want to meet smart and empathic women.

Pretty sure that that wasn’t “fame and success” she was smelling on you, dude. Try showering more and dousing yourself in Axe NEVER.

Also, let’s face it: If you were ACTUALLY famous and successful, you wouldn’t be wanking around on an internet forum with this silly oblique bragging. You’d be too busy doing real things. Like playing actual gigs.

Generally speaking, young women will be more attractive to us… because time has not yet given them the opportunity to become impure.

Translation: They haven’t any basis of comparison for our at-best-mediocre asses…YET. We hope.

However i sometimes find older women extremely attractive, because they are pure (worship god, loyal to their partner, helping others, eating healthy…).

Speaking as an older woman, I say fuck all the way to hell off. If any imagined ideal of “purity” is your metric for finding ANYONE attractive, you’re shit.

Lukas Xavier
Lukas Xavier
1 year ago

Last week the cashier girl in the market looked a moment at me so full of sexual wanting, nearly like a devil Haha.

Yeah I totally believe you dude Haha.

It’s like some kind if extreme solipsism. They really don’t seem to understand that other people have an independent existence.

Naglfar
Naglfar
1 year ago

@Bina

But thanks for letting the world know that you have a gross impregnation fetish.

It’s probably not the only gross fetish this fellow has…I don’t want to know the rest.

If you were ACTUALLY famous and successful, you wouldn’t be wanking around on an internet forum with this silly oblique bragging. You’d be too busy doing real things. Like playing actual gigs.

I’m an amateur musician myself, and I’ve noticed there are 2 kinds of musicians in this world:
1. People who actually make music, play shows, record stuff, go to events, are part of a local “scene,” etc
2. People who talk at length about how great they are as musicians but never seem to actually play or participate in local events

I get the feeling this guy is the second kind.

If any imagined ideal of “purity” is your metric for finding ANYONE attractive, you’re shit.

Am I the only one reading “pure” as a dogwhistle for racial purity?

dousing yourself in Axe NEVER.

Serious question: does anyone actually like the smell of axe body spray? I can’t stand it and it seems to be a strong signifier of toxic masculinity. Can’t people find something that smells better? Or is that the point?

Bina
1 year ago

@Naglfar:

It’s probably not the only gross fetish this fellow has…I don’t want to know the rest.

Same, and same.

Am I the only one reading “pure” as a dogwhistle for racial purity?

For sure not. I got that same vibe off the OP, too, who mentioned his specific preference for pale skin. Speaking as a pale, 100% (to my knowledge) German, that creeped me RIGHT out.

Serious question: does anyone actually like the smell of axe body spray? I can’t stand it and it seems to be a strong signifier of toxic masculinity. Can’t people find something that smells better? Or is that the point?

Outside of douchey dudes (particularly the immature young ones who think it’s a legit substitute for proper hygiene), no one does. But it’s a testimony to the power of sexualized advertising that that eye-watering stinkum finds as many buyers as it gets.

impudentinfidel
impudentinfidel
1 year ago

Meanwhile the rest of the world is still talking about a fifty year old woman absolutely killing it on a stripper pole at the superb owl halftime show.

Definitely not Steve
Definitely not Steve
1 year ago

I love these posts about no-fappers. I like how utterly removed these dudes are from the “intellectual superiority” they think holding their semen in gives them.

@LollyPop

If there’s one thing that sucks in certain men, it’s the suggestion that their preference in sexual partners is somehow reflective of their superior personality.

Yo, this has bothered the shit out of me – as a straight cis man – for so long. Men say this like it’s some fascinating personality trait of theirs that they are sharing with the world. I can only imagine how gross it is to hear as a woman.

@Naglfar

Am I the only one reading “pure” as a dogwhistle for racial purity?

I tend to think of it more as a weird, gross fetishization of inexperience (which goes along with their stated or implied physical attraction to underage bodies).

An intellectual heavyweight, these dudes are NOT looking for. They’d be scared shitless by any of the women I work with.

Naglfar
Naglfar
1 year ago

@Bina

Outside of douchey dudes (particularly the immature young ones who think it’s a legit substitute for proper hygiene), no one does.

As I figured.

I still remember the first time I smelled it. I was about 8 years old, and my parents had forced me to take karate lessons. The assistant instructor was a man in his early 20s who one day decided to spray it all over himself. Everyone in the class winced and he said “It’s called Axe,” as if he was in a commercial. I don’t think he got any buyers.

Full Metal Ox
1 year ago

*raises hand apprehensively*

Umm…I genuinely like several Axe flavors?(1) That said, I’m severely hyposmic–so that it takes “cranked up to 11” to register on my olfactory radar. I confine myself to the bath products, and I’ve never induced writhing bom-chicka-wow-wow in those who surround me–nor sought to.

(1) Specifically, Instinct (leather), Unlimited (marine/grapefruit), Vice (cherry), and Anarchy II For Her (orange blossom.) For what it’s worth, all have lmg since been discontinued.

Naglfar
Naglfar
1 year ago

@Full Metal Ox
I didn’t mean my comments as any sort of attack on you or your opinions. You are of course entitled to your preferences. I merely was stating my personal opinions and associations, but if other people like it then that’s fine as well. I’m sorry if I came across as offensive.

epronovost
epronovost
1 year ago

I never understood this “women over 30 aren’t attractive anymore” idea. I mean, do these men have eyes? The number of women over 30 who are attractive is ridiculous large. I bet if you asked them to name attractive women at least one of them would be over thirty, but they simply don’t know it. Maybe it’s because these guys are kids who are intimidated by something as benign as adulthood.

Full Metal Ox
1 year ago

@Naglfar:

No offense taken at all! Just wanted to speak up as a sensory outlier (complicated into the bargain by synesthesia.)

Tangentially related Fun Fact, prompted by your karate instructor’s chemical warfare: in the Sixties-Seventies,there used to be a men’s cologne called Hai Karate (the name rendered in the inevitable Chop Suey Font); the schtick was that the user would be so besieged by hot women that he’d have to study martial arts to fend them off.

Full Metal Ox
1 year ago

@Naglfar:

No offense taken at all! Just wanted to speak up as a sensory outlier (complicated into the bargain by synesthesia.)

Tangentially related Fun Fact, prompted by your karate instructor’s chemical warfare: in the Sixties-Seventies,there used to be a men’s cologne called Hai Karate (the name rendered in the inevitable Chop Suey Font); the schtick was that the user would be so besieged by hot women that he’d have to study martial arts to fend them off.

Also, I’m picturing him assomething along the lines of Rex Kwon Do from Napoleon Dynamite.

Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
1 year ago

@Definitely Not Steve:

Yo, this has bothered the shit out of me – as a straight cis man – for so long. Men say this like it’s some fascinating personality trait of theirs that they are sharing with the world. I can only imagine how gross it is to hear as a woman.

Universalizing their personal taste is one of their most irritating cognitive errors. All men must want exactly the same thing they want (though of course, it’s women who are the “hive mind”).

Just listen to this guy, telling all the other men what they *should* want, as if he’s the supreme arbiter of taste. Meanwhile, he’ll scream his head off if asked to acknowledge that older/heavier/short haired women are attractive, because “we’re hard wired to want fertility, don’t tell ME who to lust after!”

If it’s so hard wired, why do they constantly need to remind each other to only look at nubile 13 year olds? Why do they have to keep reciting the same boring laundry lists of ideal traits to each other over and over again?

Come on, dudes. Just tie a string around your finger to remind yourself not to slip up and accidentally lust after a 29 year old.

time has not yet given them the opportunity to become impure

I find some “hot” young women very repulsive because they are unpure

Ah, there’s the obsession with contamination and purity that consumes fascists. I wonder if they drink distilled rainwater? Are bodily fluids their Kryptonite? If you flick a booger at them, would they short circuit?

I don’t like when they want you because they can smell fame and success.

Look at the famous successful musician, doing his own shopping at the market!

Naglfar
Naglfar
1 year ago

@Buttercup

If it’s so hard wired, why do they constantly need to remind each other to only look at nubile 13 year olds? Why do they have to keep reciting the same boring laundry lists of ideal traits to each other over and over again?

This is an argument I’ve also used against Petersonites who believe society should be restructured to a “natural” order that is actually BS they made up: if it’s so natural why does it need intervention and constant reminders? If it was natural for there to be a certain social order, we’d be doing it by our own accord.

there’s the obsession with contamination and purity that consumes fascists.

I think they do this because it allows them to feel better about themselves and see themselves as superior to everyone else. It’s like how they write everything they don’t like off as “degenerate.” I also think “impure,” like “degenerate,” is a dogwhistle for race.

Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
1 year ago

@Naglfar: It’s like how women “naturally” want to stay at home, raise babies, and be financially dependent on a strong alpha male abuser, so therefore we need to enact all kinds of laws and scarlet letters to ensure that happens.

Snowberry
Snowberry
1 year ago

I want to meet smart and empathic women.

While presumably not an incel, my experience with incel ideas about women suggests that “smart” means “conforms to gender stereotypes like a ‘natural’ woman” and “empathic” means “anticipates my moods and thinks about how to please me 24/7, and I don’t have to the same in return”.

Another Laura
Another Laura
1 year ago

Everyone is allowed their preferences, but this poor dude should remember that there’s a BIG difference between rating Miss America contestants, for instance, and finding a woman willing to date you. Narrowing the field by declaring that the ONLY women worth dating are skinny virginal pale blondes between the ages of 18 and 30 is just setting yourself up for ridicule when you fall for a curvy brunette with a kid from a previous marriage.
I, personally, am extremely grateful that social media wasn’t available during my dating years. I would still be hearing variations on, “What the hell, Laura? You always said you wanted a tall, dark, and sort of foreign artistic type, and you’re marrying a pale, wiry mad scientist from North Carolina? Are you on drugs or what?”
(I am completely aware that many of these guys are probably unable to find anyone to date, and they post these little lists so they can proclaim that no one meets their lofty standards.)

Nikki the Bluth Wannabe
Nikki the Bluth Wannabe
1 year ago

Axe has Dark Temptation (chocolate) and Gold Temptation (caramel) scents. I’ve sniffed them in the body wash aisle before and they actually smell pretty nice.

Lainy
Lainy
1 year ago

@LindsayIrene

Pick uplines that have been used on me recently have literally been “you look like the big titty goth girlfriend of my dreams” like that was said to me. and he thought that would go over well. Somehow between being the creepy goth girl in high school to a junior in college I’ve become a lot of teenage boys and young guys fetish and I don’t know what happen. The goth used to be part of a shield, it kept people away from me and now I’m here.

Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
1 year ago

I don’t like when they want you because they can smell fame and success. I want to meet smart and empathic women.

Dude, I’m smart and empathic. That’s how I know you’ll never find anyone smart and empathic. (Being empathic doesn’t mean I’m not honest.) And because I’m empathic (and honest), I’ll give you some advice: Get the eff over yourself.

Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
1 year ago

Someone called Juiceshop changed the subject slightly, telling the story of a grocery store cashier who’s TOTALLY INTO HIM.

Last week the cashier girl in the market looked a moment at me so full of sexual wanting, nearly like a devil Haha. I found out that she found out about my profile as a musician.

More likely she found out about your profile as a juice shop worker. Nothing wrong with working in a juice shop. But you are not Justin Timberlake.

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

The thing I’ve always found strange when these guys insist on universalizing their preferences is how they don’t seem to grasp how shitty it would be if they got their wish. If 100% of men were only willing to date the .01% of women in the world who are 18, thin, blonde, naturally beautiful, a virgin who will fuck like a porn star when they meet the “right” guy and independently wealthy without having any kind of career, then hardly any men would ever find anyone to date.

Maybe they figure if they have to be alone because they repulse women, all the other men should have to be alone too? Or maybe they think somehow all women will find a way to turn themselves into the manosphere dream girl if that’s what it took to get a man?

It’s just all so irrational to me.

Catalpa
Catalpa
1 year ago

On one hand, the more ludicrous unattainable standards that these guys hold, the less likely that they’re going to subject a woman to the horror of being in a relationship with these dickheads.

On the other hand, the more ludicrous standards that the average woman fails to meet, the bigger these assholes’ sense of aggrieved entitlement gets, and the more likely they are to treat all the woman around them like shit.

Masse_Mysteria
Masse_Mysteria
1 year ago

I’m not sure what to make of the fact that to me “skinny, pale and young” sounds like it could lend itself to some great androgynous looks that the OP would find unattractive and unnatural. I know it’s just my personal preferences* speaking, but it’s always funny to me when people like this speak in this sort of accidental shorthand where a great deal of their actual “standards” (feminine attire and all those curves even skinny women must have etc) are just supposed to be understood.

*Preference is for androgyny, paleness and youngness inconsequential.

@weirwoodtreehugger

Maybe they figure if they have to be alone because they repulse women, all the other men should have to be alone too? Or maybe they think somehow all women will find a way to turn themselves into the manosphere dream girl if that’s what it took to get a man?

My guess is they don’t expect women to actually meet their standards, just to strive for them and fail miserably — only to be properly grateful and therefore subservient when one of them magnanimously agrees to date such a substandard monster.

Ooglyboggles
Ooglyboggles
1 year ago

Exactly how do they know someone is on the pill? Gut Instinct?

Universal Kami
Universal Kami
1 year ago

@WWTH

I imagine so.

However everytime I see “pale” I imagine they want a woman who never goes outdoors (“they’re only job is to be a housewife”) or whose skin never gets touched by the sun (“they must wear clothing that covers them completely”).

Because being vitamin D deficient is apparently attractive.

Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
1 year ago

@Ooglyboggles
These guys are insightful. They can tell when someone is on the pill because her delicate hormonal balance is spoiled.

Women’s hormonal balance: It’s delicate. It can be spoiled.

Ladies, don’t let this happen to you.

occasional reader
occasional reader
1 year ago

Does this guy honestly think he can determine the number of sexual partners a woman has had, or the sort of food she eats, just by looking at her?
HOW DO YOU KNOW WHO IS USING CONTRACEPTIVES?

Ah, David, David… Is it possible you have forgotten about the total awesomeness of the SEMEN RETENTION POWERS (copyright and trademark, but i do not know how make the symbols here, sorry) ?

Now i just have incredibely high standards

You may have confused your standards with your assholery level. Which is very high, indeed. And even with that, you find a way to fart higher than your ass, as we say here.

That’s really what should turn you on

Hmm, that is not mansplaining as it is not a man trying to force his “knowledge” upon a woman, but i see it as a man trying to force his “standards” upon other men. How can this be called ? Mandardizing ? Standarmanizing ? Cause i really love when persons decide what my standards are. They surely know better !

Universal Kami
Universal Kami
1 year ago

@occasional reader

SEMEN RETENTION POWERS©™

Although I do have help in the form of the emojis my phone has come with automatically.

Amtep
Amtep
1 year ago

“I know this is an Unpopular Opinion, but my concept of attractiveness is exactly the one we’ve been bombarded with in movies and advertising all our lives. This distinguishes me as a refined and insightful man.”

Naglfar
Naglfar
1 year ago

@Snowberry

While presumably not an incel

This prompts me to wonder: since semen retainers swear off sex, should they be called volcels?

@WWTH

Or maybe they think somehow all women will find a way to turn themselves into the manosphere dream girl if that’s what it took to get a man?

This seems to be what they believe. A lot of manosphere rhetoric revolves around future tense schadenfreude and the idea that women will be sorry and end up lonely if they don’t attract these men. I doubt many women would find that to be a tragedy. At least, I sure wouldn’t want to be with a manosphere asshole.

@Masse_Mysteria

a great deal of their actual “standards” (feminine attire and all those curves even skinny women must have etc) are just supposed to be understood.

They seem to assume all men have the same standards. It doesn’t speak too highly of men TBH, but most manosphere stuff doesn’t.

@Amtep
Most of the unpopular opinion subreddit actually does seem to be that way. All the posts I’ve seen or heard about there are along the lines of “This is politically incorrect and the SJWs will get mad, but I think (some bigoted sentiment)” or “You’re all thinking this, but I’m the only one who will say (something idiotic and offensive).” That’s not what an unpopular opinion is.

Naglfar
Naglfar
1 year ago

@Amtep
Most of the unpopular opinion subreddit actually does seem to be that way. All the posts I’ve seen or heard about there are along the lines of “This is politically incorrect and the SJWs will get mad, but I think (some bigoted sentiment)” or “You’re all thinking this, but I’m the only one who will say (something idiotic and offensive).” That’s not what an unpopular opinion is.

Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
1 year ago

@Naglfar

A lot of manosphere rhetoric revolves around future tense schadenfreude and the idea that women will be sorry and end up lonely if they don’t attract these men.

Exactly. Red Pill encourages men to think of themselves as the prize, which sounds at first like reasonable advice, but when women fail to flock to their magnificent personalities, they can’t continue feeling like a prize unless they trash women. (Feeling like a prize is more important than actually being a prize.) It’s not that women reject them, it’s that their standards are just too lofty and no mortal woman can possibly meet them. They’re connoisseurs, mercilessly judging the women they can’t have.

It’s interesting that incels and no-fappers and MGTOW largely seem to be men cast aside by the patriarchy. A lot of them are extremely online, into video games and sci fi, working low-level STEM jobs (but rarely in management, and precariously employed due to not understanding how harassment works), unhappily divorced or single, not especially rich or good-looking or athletic or connected. Yet their response is to double down and become patriarchy’s most vicious upholders. They’re bitter that they failed to cash in on the perks of being a white man, which is supposed to automatically bring you a lucrative job, a submissive wife, and community respect. Somewhere they got the idea that you can asshole your way into being Chad, since it seems to work for him.

Chad, however, is surrounded by powerful institutions that protect him. He’s a prize swimmer at an elite college so we can’t ruin his future, or he’s from a rich family with a reputation to uphold, or he’s a politician who’s above the law because he makes the laws. He’s at the top despite being an asshole, not because of it.

Maybe someday these guys will clue in to the fact that the system hurts them, too. But I doubt it. They’ll just continue banging mindlessly against the window like moths, and blaming the female moths for their injured wings.

Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie
Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie
1 year ago

Like these assists didn’t spend the entire second half of the super bowl jerking their personal parts over two WAAAY post-wall women….

re: famous-for-my-music;

I play (ish) harmonica.. I have a t-shirt that sez:

“Will Play Harmonica For Free; Will Stop For Money”

Gatecrasher
Gatecrasher
1 year ago

There are some practical problems with their Perfect Wife Wish List.

Even IF you manage to find an 18-year old virgin skinny N-cup supermodel who agrees to marry you, even IF she spends all of her time serving you, exercising (but not in ways that will give her muscle mass or cause her boobs to shrink) and constantly dieting (while cooking tasty food for you) and caring about her looks (but only in natural ways that you aprove of) –

She would still only be acceptable for 12 years, then she would be “too old” for you and hopelessly unattractive and “gross”.

What do you do then? Toss her out and find a new one? These men often think that divorces are not ok, but the remaining option is to keep the “hideous old hag” you married. She who originally checked all the boxes on the list, she stays with you until the end of her life which is statistically aproximately 50 years into the future. That’s a lot of years of boredom and disgust. Or, you could kill her, I guess, but that might lead to unwanted consequences, such as prison and a reputation as a murderer.

Obviously, all of this means you must take great care not to start thinking of your “aged” wife as a… person, because that might make the out-tossing-and-replacing or murdering more difficult.

/irony and sarcasm

Now a serious point. I think a lot of the obsession with young women is about control. In several ways, but I think that one is by making it more difficult for a woman to leave a bad relationship. If she thinks that very soon she will be too old to find a new man, and too old to have children, just a few years then it is too late…. Then she cannot afford to leave, if she doesn’t want to be alone and childless! This is one of the the misogynists’ favourite threats against women who don’t keep in line. They want to stress and scare women with aging, so that women think they have no space to negotiate or press demands (such as being treated like people).

Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie
Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie
1 year ago

*ASSHATS* not “assists”…. fuckin autocorrect…

Naglfar
Naglfar
1 year ago

@Buttercup

Maybe someday these guys will clue in to the fact that the system hurts them, too. But I doubt it. They’ll just continue banging mindlessly against the window like moths, and blaming the female moths for their injured wings.

That seems to be generally true of the manosphere as a whole. There are legitimate issues which a “Men’s Rights Movement” could address (though hopefully under a different name, that one is too tainted) like domestic and sexual violence against men, racism against black men, homophobia against gay men, mental health issues, etc. But instead they actively contribute to all of those and spend all their time barking at women, because they don’t actually care about solving problems, they just want to find scapegoats. Much like other fascists.

@Gatecrasher

These men often think that divorces are not ok

I think they’re ok with it so long as the man initiates and gets to keep everything. It’s only bad if the woman wants out because the man is being shitty.

Diego Duarte
Diego Duarte
1 year ago

@Gatecrasher

What do you do then? Toss her out and find a new one? These men often think that divorces are not ok, but the remaining option is to keep the “hideous old hag” you married.

Friendly reminder that cheating is rampant with conservatives and that, on a societal level, it has not been uncommon for older men to divorce their wives to marry a younger woman.

Trump and Gringich did it twice. My dad married three times (I was the result of his third marriage).

Lainy
Lainy
1 year ago

@universal kami

However every time I see “pale” I imagine they want a woman who never goes outdoors (“they’re only job is to be a housewife”) or whose skin never gets touched by the sun (“they must wear clothing that covers them completely”).

Not entirely true. I’m incredibly pale and the main reason is is that I just can’t tan. I got out in the sun I go from white, to red, to back to white. once a sunburn fades it just goes right back to pale. there is like no melanin in my skin. When I go to the beach I am covered in the highest spf sun screen I can find and sitting under an umbrella if need be. meanwhile my husband will tell you he’s only really had one sunburn in his life and it wasn’t even that bad. which is you know…great and I’m not envies at all

Ann K
Ann K
1 year ago

Well, yes, I understand this. Men past their sexual prime require a lot more stimulation than virile young guys, for whom any household appliance, farm animal, or item found in the produce aisle is sufficient for arousal. The question is, why should any young woman who meets his rigorous list of requirements want to couple with him?

Be as choosy as you like, bubba, but remember that women are choosy too.

Allandrel
Allandrel
1 year ago

My favorite things about these guys universalizing their own standards of attractiveness is that even individual people rarely have a single, monolithic “type.”

My list of “the most beautiful women in the world” includes women with beautiful pale skin, and women with beautiful dark skin. Short women (OMG she’s adorable) and tall women (OMG she’s an amazon). Women with large breasts and women who give their measurements as “Can you apply measurements to something that doesn’t exist?”

It’s almost as if I’m looking at a person and not shopping for a car.

Katamount
1 year ago

Haha, the joke’s on Acceptancehunter. My personal standards are far, far, FAR higher than his. My ideal partner must also have blue skin and prehensile antennae.

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Oh yeah, all the hotties come from the ice-mountains of Andoria.