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“Women over 30 shouldn’t interest you unless you have an impure, sexually perverted mind,” declares man obsessed with his own semen

Hideous over-30 woman

By David Futrelle

Just like Men Going Their Own Way, who can’t stop talking about the women they’re ostensibly “going their own way” from, militant NoFappers can’t stop obsessing over the sexual appeal (or alleged lack thereof) of the women they’re definitely not masturbating over.

In the Semen Retention subreddit, one brave man recently offered his thoughts on which categories of women it’s acceptable to lust after, and it’s basically No Fatties, No Uglies, and no one over 30.

The average woman is becoming uninteresting to me. (self.Semenretention)

submitted 11 days ago by Acceptancehunter

I know what most people expect after they give up porn is to become attracted to 'average' women again and this is a sign of healthy sexuality.

I have gone through that but now I see myself becoming increasingly uninterested in women who are not naturally noticeably beautiful and young.

This includes girls who look fake or enhanced. I'm also finding my disgust response is going up when I look at women who are aged or overweight. In the past I would find something erotic about a women who was maybe middle aged or if they were not skinny I could be attracted to their curvature. Now I just have incredibly high standards, for me it skinny, pale and young looking. By young I mean healthy looking really (18-30) That's really what should turn you on though, women who are chubby, not pretty or over 30 shouldn't really be that interesting to you unless you have an impure sexually perverted mind. Unless they are strikingly attractive I just don't really notice them.

I don't expect this post to be agreed upon lol but this is what I'm feeling.

Don’t trust lust after anyone over 30.

As it turns out, Acceptancehunter here had no need to worry about his fellow semen retainers disagreeing with him, as most of the commenters were happy to endorse his rather skewed vision of the world.

“I see where you are coming from,” replied the aptly named shared_consciousness.

My perception of women and definition of attractiveness has completely changed since starting this journey 5 years ago.

Generally speaking, young women will be more attractive to us… because time has not yet given them the opportunity to become impure. Older women MAY have racked up many years of gross behavior. Especially true for Western women.

You know what’s actually gross? Old dudes speculating on the “purity” of the young women they’re horny for.

I find some “hot” young women very repulsive because they are unpure (huge ego, drinking, many s partners.. ). However i sometimes find older women extremely attractive, because they are pure (worship god, loyal to their partner, helping others, eating healthy…).

Does this guy honestly think he can determine the number of sexual partners a woman has had, or the sort of food she eats, just by looking at her?

A commenter called Santanabbts, meanwhile, added yet another category of women to the discard pile: women using contraceptives.

I would also like to add that: women who do not use contraception are much more attractive and feminine. I have observed this many times, I think that contraceptives spoil the delicate hormonal balance of women

HOW DO YOU KNOW WHO IS USING CONTRACEPTIVES. And which contraceptives are you talking about? Just the pill? Do IUDs count? The sponge? What about women who insist their partners use condoms?

Other commenters professed to be repulsed by pretty much all women.

“Since starting this journey,” Destrapo45 declared,

I see most women as manipulative creatures who often move you away from a path of righteousness. Plus besides sex you start to realize their a lil annoying.

Someone called Juiceshop changed the subject slightly, telling the story of a grocery store cashier who’s TOTALLY INTO HIM.

Last week the cashier girl in the market looked a moment at me so full of sexual wanting, nearly like a devil Haha. I found out that she found out about my profile as a musician.

I don’t like when they want you because they can smell fame and success. I want to meet smart and empathic women.

I don’t think that’s going to work out for you, chief. Any woman who could possibly be into you after hearing you spout this sort of drivel is by definition going to be foolish and oblivious.

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Daughter
Daughter
7 months ago

@impudentinfidel

I enjoyed your autocorrected comment. I would definitely like to watch a superb owl!

Gaebolga
Gaebolga
7 months ago

Lainy wrote:

I’m incredibly pale and the main reason is is that I just can’t tan. I got out in the sun I go from white, to red, to back to white. once a sunburn fades it just goes right back to pale.

I’m pretty much the same, with one difference: I go from white to red, then the burn peels off and leaves a kind of “tan” (I think of it as toasted rather than burned), which then peels off after a week or so and I’m back to fishbelly white.

The sun hates me, and the feeling is mutual. Good thing I moved to Florida….

Naglfar
Naglfar
7 months ago

@Allandrel

Can you apply measurements to something that doesn’t exist?

Well, the manosphere does that quite frequently which the whole “sexual market value” business. There is no such thing as sexual market value (or at least there shouldn’t be) but they’ve devised all sorts of ways to measure it through examining their wrists, eyes, and skull shapes.

Allandrel
Allandrel
7 months ago

@Katamount

I’m with you on the blue skin, but antennae? No, goat horns and little tendrils behind the ears. Ain’t no woman like a Draenei woman.

Jenora Feuer
Jenora Feuer
7 months ago

@Naglfar:

I’m an amateur musician myself, and I’ve noticed there are 2 kinds of musicians in this world:
1. People who actually make music, play shows, record stuff, go to events, are part of a local “scene,” etc
2. People who talk at length about how great they are as musicians but never seem to actually play or participate in local events

As an amateur (but published) writer, I can tell you that the same applies for writers. The people who will talk most at length about their great novel are the ones who usually haven’t actually written any of it.

@Daughter:
“Superb Owl” probably wasn’t autocorrect, that’s a pretty common deliberate misspelling, which I believe originally started because the NFL is extremely protective of the trademark for ‘the big event’, and more than a little litigious.

LindsayIrene
LindsayIrene
7 months ago

I would much rather see a superb owl (and all owls are superb) than the Superbowl. I caught a bit of this year’s, just in time to see an ad with a woman of color saying, “Thank you, Donald Trump!” with the fervor of a Seventh Day Adventist saying, “Thank you, Jesus!” That was enough for me.

This owl is quite superb:

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Naglfar
Naglfar
7 months ago

@LindsayIrene

I would much rather see a superb owl (and all owls are superb) than the Superbowl.

Same here. I just really don’t care for sports.

Masse_Mysteria
Masse_Mysteria
7 months ago

@Katamount
I see the best hotties also know their way around a type II phaser (since type I is for wimps) and are Starfleet officers. Personally, I’d settle for a lieutenant, but your higher standards are a testament to your great status and my hat is, like, permanently off now.

C.A. Collins
C.A. Collins
7 months ago

Axe like any other scent, gets worse in concentration. A little, ehh, might smell okay. A dousing-bleh.
Obsession was my Kryptonite when it was popular, because I swear people swam in the stuff.

Couch Thing
7 months ago

” I think that contraceptives spoil the delicate hormonal balance of women ”

Oh noes! they are spoiling their precious bodily fluids – er, I mean delicate hormonal balance!

Diego Duarte
Diego Duarte
7 months ago

Speaking of which, did David ever touch upon this subject?

https://www.dailydot.com/layer8/republican-goddess-website/

The Republican Goddess dude, who seems to think that he (68) can find young women (25) who would want to date him, provided they fulfill all of his absurd pre-requisites.

Jesalin, Goddess of Lust & Pleasure
Jesalin, Goddess of Lust & Pleasure
7 months ago

Last week the cashier girl in the market looked a moment at me so full of sexual wanting, nearly like a devil Haha.

For the 183,432,468,193rd time: She’s not into you, it’s her job to smile and be nice to the customers.

Naglfar
Naglfar
7 months ago

@Diego Duarte
The sentence that left me shaking my head even more than for all the others was this one:

“As you read through this website, you will notice that I’m an intense, complex man who thinks waaay ‘outside the box,’”

If he were complex and thought anywhere outside the box, he wouldn’t support Trump. Really, if he thought at all period he wouldn’t support Trump.

I also focused on the sentence where he says he’s ok with women into equal rights but not feminists. I’m guessing that means he’s fine with people like Christina Hoff Sommers or Camille Paglia who profess to be feminists but spend most of their time bashing feminism and promoting antifeminist policies.

I also went to his website and found it quite gross. In addition to his poor web design, his views after the questionnaire make him very creepy.

Another Laura
Another Laura
7 months ago

Responding to Butterfly Q. Skullpants about STEM workers and Scifi fans – it’s obvious from all the comments that many of us WHTM fans are also STEM workers and Scifi fans. I met my darling STEM worker at a Society for Creative Anachronism meeting back in college, and we bonded over a mutual love of science fiction. Now that we’re getting older and more feeble, we sometimes spend our evenings binge watching The Expanse and re-watching Firefly or the various iterations of Star Trek.
While there’s a lot of science fiction that caters to patriarchal norms, there’s a great deal more that doesn’t. While even the best intentioned scifi can’t help but reflect the times it was created in (oh, god! Those Star Trek mini-skirts!), much of it does try to push us into a more egalitarian future (once again, Star Trek, which made pointed comments about racism, had a black woman bridge officer, and the first interracial kiss on television.) These days, even the most right wing scifi writers (David Weber and John Ringo, for instance) present multiracial societies and women in positions of leadership.
Every fandom will have its assholes, but I’ve found that scifi’s assholes tend to be loudly mocked.

Naglfar
Naglfar
7 months ago

@Another Laura

These days, even the most right wing scifi writers (David Weber and John Ringo, for instance) present multiracial societies and women in positions of leadership.

Vox Day still won’t because it’s “historically inaccurate“, but Vox Day will always be an asshole. I’ve never read anything he’s written, but I’d imagine it’s shit.

Masse_Mysteria
Masse_Mysteria
7 months ago

@Another Laura
It may be just that I wasn’t there in the sixties, but I don’t mind the miniskirts in TOS that much because I assume they were new and modern and seemed futuristic or something.

The short hems on the new Star Trek movies on the other hand… It’s not like it can be that hard to design a unisex uniform that harkens back to the TOS aesthetic. That’s what the primary colours are for!

Diego Duarte
Diego Duarte
7 months ago

@Naglfar

“As you read through this website, you will notice that I’m an intense, complex man who thinks waaay ‘outside the box,’”

I think you misinterpreted that one line.

I mean, if you really thinks about it, when he talks about thinking outside the box he’s clearly referencing his coffin and its inability to contain his outdated medieval views.

Amtep
Amtep
7 months ago

Yeah, I’d read that the miniskirts were considered empowering — modern women wore those, and they were a rejection of the prevailing patriarchal norms. I think they represented a kind of ownership of one’s body and sexuality.

Nichelle Nichols even fought the producers to make her skirt shorter. Apparently they were a bit nervous about a modern black woman doing the same.

FlyByKiwi
FlyByKiwi
7 months ago

Urgggghh. Reminded of a comment by a male acquaintance about a woman he came into contact with at his work. He swore up and down she was like really into him. I imagine it went more like hi, I am being pleasant and professional because you can make navigating this organisation difficult and if I come across as a world class b***h then I will suffer for it! But not only was it yuck cos I forget males in a professional setting might not also be thinking 100% professionally about my interactions with them (and this was nasty reminder), but also if he made that comment to the wrong person he could seriously harm her reputation. I did suggest to him she was being nice cos he could make her professional life difficult, but, no, he was SURE she was gagging for him.

Naglfar
Naglfar
7 months ago

@FlyByKiwi
Was he a semen retainer? It seems to be a common idea among those types that all women are really into them and/or trying to steal their precious bodily fluids.

O/T (and TMI): Jessica Mann says that Harvey Weinstein has ambiguous genitalia with no testicles and a vagina.
I don’t know much about this, but I have several questions. Does that mean he’s intersex? And how did he supposedly father 5 children then? And, more importantly, what does this mean for the trial?

Jenora Feuer
Jenora Feuer
7 months ago

@Amtep:
I didn’t know that about Nichelle Nichols, but I can see it. Of course, ‘taking ownership of sexuality’ has long been one of the fracture lines in feminism.

Actually, that just led me into a thought. There’s a term called ‘euphemism treadmill’, referring to the race for creation of non-slur terminology before it inevitably gets used as the basis for a new slur. It made me think that there should be a similar ‘feminism treadmill’, of the race for new ways for women to express themselves and break out of the mold before those ways get co-opted as advertising material by the more general patriarchal culture.

Granted, thinking that over also makes me think it’s obvious enough that anybody who has seriously studied this has probably already run into the concept and that there’s likely already a formal name for it.

QuantumInc
QuantumInc
7 months ago

I can’t help but notice that he likes skinny and young women, but really the two things that set female porn stars apart is that they are skinnier and younger than the general female population. 18 to 30 years is the age range you will see on Pornhub. A lot of content specifically emphasizes how young the women are. “BBW” exists but is considered a specific fetish. There was even a guy who did a study based on a database of professional online profiles and found that one average the only difference is that female porn stars apart is that they are skinnier and younger than the general female population. Of course it probably isn’t a coincidence in a community of men who are there because they watched too much porn. You might think such a community would focus on introspection, self-reflection, and exploring all the ways their views on women and sexuality are warped, but of course like any alt-right community they immediately validate every little bias and angry thought.

LindsayIrene
LindsayIrene
7 months ago

@Naglfar

(CW warning for mentioning Harvey Weinstein’s junk)

I’m assuming Jessica Mann was saying vagina when she actually meant vulva. Weinstein may have low T (that would explain the injection), which could make his privates shrink, making his balls look a bit like a vulva.

Of course, Weinstein could have the most beautiful genitals on the planet and I still wouldn’t want to look at them.

Paireon
Paireon
7 months ago

Welp. Thank you people for those wonderful mental images of Weinstein’s privates /s (I have a hyperactive, hard to control imagination).

That said, from what I’m reading in that creep’s posts, seems to me that the longer he goes without masturbating to porn, the more his ideas about women he’d be DTF seem to conform to porn-like ideals. Methinks he’s not so much becoming more “in-tune” with a sort of feminine ideal (which he strongly implies, in barely-coded racially-charged language no less), but rather experiencing porn withdrawal coupled with the truly astounding capacity for self-delusion people like him have, which magnifies the effects far more than what an ordinary person might feel, and keeps it going for far longer than it should.

(Porn withdrawal is relatively easy to cope with in my experience -results may vary of course- as long as you’re relatively open-minded about what’s going on; had a stint where I had almost zero access to it for the better part of a year once, didn’t exactly narrow my preferences to porn star-like body types. These dudes seem to want to fit everything into their warped worldview, which predictably also warps what they manage to fit in)

TiredFeet
TiredFeet
7 months ago

Depressingly, that photograph reminds me of how vocally disgusted and outraged my mother was when Blondie had their comeback in the Nineties. Because it was somehow in poor taste and “not right” for Debbie Harry to still be making music whilst looking like a perfectly normal, attractive fifty-something woman. It goes without saying that my mother simultaneously thought that the Rolling Stones were wonderful for going on peforming into middle age and well beyond. It’s only women who need to retire from public life, preferably with a bag on their heads, to avoid offending people with the dreadful sight of a middle-aged woman. Anyone who has any doubts about the extent to which women internalize and enforce sexism just needs to have a ten minute chat with my mother…

TiredFeet
TiredFeet
7 months ago

“Some women”, I should have said. Also, I’m not looking to derail or distract attention from the behaviour of the kind of men covered in this blog. But equally, I don’t know how feminism is meant to engage with women like my mother, who benefited from feminism and are proud of their freedom but also really, really hate other women.

Universal Kami
Universal Kami
7 months ago

@Lainy

I wasn’t talking about naturally pale people.

I was merely explaining what I personally think they mean when they say “pale”.

Simon
Simon
7 months ago

@Daughter

There you go.

Semen_Retention_Liaison_Officer
Semen_Retention_Liaison_Officer
7 months ago

Hi there, I am here as a practicing unbroken semen retaining celibate…It seems this site spotlights on semen retention(SR from now on) quite often. As a member of the SR community, is it okay if I strictly post in the comment section of SR posts in order to clarify the historical position (mostly from Hinduism,Buddhism,Taoism but also Western Oneida) as well as modern opinions from within the SR community?

It seems there is a lot of ignorance regarding the genesis of semen retention and celibacy in these posts….(Nobody’s fault as it is intricately linked with male body geography and male mental approach to sexual energy)

Hope this leads to fruitful conversations around history, society, various spiritual traditions around the world

interesting tidbit, Since this is a woman centric blog I think the following information would be of interest to the audience here:

The continued protection of Rome (the city not the empire) for 800 long years is attributed to the spiritual power of an unbroken line of female celibates within the SR community ….known as Vestal Virgins who would be celibate for 30 years before marrying in mid or late 30s

(marriage with Vestal Virgins was considered to be highly prestigious affair, nullifying the above ignorant comment that women over 30s are not desirable to eligible powerful handsome men)

A Vestal Virgin cursed Rome and its elite ruling class in the 380s after the Christians desecrated and shut down the Temple of Vesta….within a few decades of that Rome was overrun by Visigoths under Alaric after 800 years of peace

Christians of course tried to deny that fall of Rome was due to Christian abrogation of Vestal Virgins and paganism in their book called “The City of God” by St. Augustine of Hippo

another interesting tidbit. Women who have stopped their monthly energy loss through spiritual practice, even in their fertile years, are considered even more powerful than celibate semen-retaining men ….

Anandamayi Maa from Eastern India comes to mind in this regard ..She chose to go full on celibate even while being recently married

SR comes under various forms:

1) One would be carnal congress without any release. Mostly done with a committed partner (Steve Jobs. etc)

2) The second version is where the guy is celibate most of the times (no porn, no self-pleasure/pollution) and may engage in no-strings-attached intimacy with women a few times a year

3) Complete celibacy. Absolute no staring at women, fantasizing about women, touching oneself, peaking at porn, edging, romantic or sexual relationship, no wet dreams and hopefully no nocturnal emission…

This vow is carried out in 12 year streaks. A single failure means back to square zero and starting again…Vivekananda, Tesla and Newton were such kind of celibates

4) A fourth more realistic celibacy: Absolute clean celibacy till one gets married. The energy is used to create prosperity, security ..so that when one does get married, he can provide full security and well being to wife and child. In this day and age where whole nations are suffering from the vagaries of economic forces, this is the best option

such a man is celibate from age of 20 till mid to late 30s..before getting married…This way money issues donot sour the emotional atmosphere of the young family

Andrew Carnegie comes to mind when it comes to this sort of celibacy..Though he married in his fifties…well it really takes 35 years’ worth of sexual energy to build an empire

Sorry if the post was a bit hetero-normative..as I can only write from the male heterosexual perspective

if you think my voice in the comment section of SR posts would be helpful, do let me know

if you think I am irrelevant and a nuisance here, then also please let me know as then this would be my first and last post here

cheers,

Semen_Retention_Liaison_Officer
Semen_Retention_Liaison_Officer
7 months ago

PS: the issue of wet dreams is the most fraught subject in SR community. More akin to the disputes regarding the Nature of Christ in Christianity

one must remember that it was controversy around the subject of wet dreams that split Buddhism thousands of years ago

Frederic Christie
7 months ago

I love how good they are at self-delusion. Sure, buddy, the purest attraction POSSIBLE are to the people you just coincidentally want to fuck the most.

vaiyt
vaiyt
7 months ago

I love how good they are at self-delusion. Sure, buddy, the purest attraction POSSIBLE are to the people you just coincidentally want to fuck the most.

“MY kinks are the rational ones”, take eleventy billion.