By David Futrelle
Lesbians around the world face a deep existential crisis today as it has been revealed that they do not, in fact, exist. At least according to some dudes on the internet. Specifically, some dudes on the Men Going Their Own Way subreddit, long a hotbed of Lesbian Denial.
In a recent discussion, a commenter by the name of NathanHollister explained that so-called “lesbians” are just straight women who can’t find quality men.
Lesbianism is not real. It’s just women who are sick and tired of unmasculine, wussy, spineless soyboy men. They will magically turn straight for a real sexy, charming man.
Basically, women who cannot find a top 20% man become lesbians. Women who can find a top 20% man but also are kinky sluts become “bi”, but mainly because they know a threesome with another girl would turn their man on.
Other commenters agreed with the “can’t get a man” theory.
“Lesbians only exist because Chad said ‘no’ and didn’t give them attention,” declared edgysecularist.
Still others feel that lesbianism is more about the hatred of men than the lack of them. According to bbhuntt:
Any ‘lesbian’ Is really a straight person who doesn’t like men and is willing to have intercourse with women rather than not have intercourse. …
Being a lesbian is the ultimate move of feminist and nothing more. It’s all a giant game
Sir_manalot suggested that it was also about status, as no one apparently has more status than women today.
[W]omen just fuck whoever they believe is highest on the social chain. Right now, women are being given a bunch of unearned power and so lesbianism is in.
Fortunately for men — or at least for the cis men who make up the overwhelming majority of MGTOWs — they have one great advantage over all these fake lesbians. And it can be found in their pants.
“You have a dick and they don’t,” wrote rejac218.
They will never know what a woman’s pussy really feels like from balls deep. You should laugh right at them.
But of course as MGTOWs they don’t spend any time at all fantasizing about said pussies. Nope! As SprinterLyfe reminded his fellow Own-Way-Goers:
Pussy is all women have to offer. By placing little or no value on pussy, we regain control of ourselves, finding legitimate freedom from feminized cultures bent on enslavement and domination of men by women.
And there’s no greater proof of the freedom these men have from women than their tendency to discuss these completely unimportant-to-them women angrily on the internet all day every day while talking about how cool their dicks are. That’s what male freedom looks like!
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@Eric – you know this isn’t just a fun little argument for some of the posters on here, right? You grasp that there are consequences to saying “the purpose of lesbians is so that men will rape them and get them pregnant”, right?
You claimed we weren’t intelligent, in your first post. I try really hard not to resort to such barbs, because of a lot of reasons.
So i’m going to ask you to take of your smartie-pants smart pants, and put on your thinking cap, and really and truly think.
Just WHY are so many of us horrified by the results of a study that says that the evolutionary purpose of lesbianism (which would mean lesbians, as in real live people) is to tittilalate a man so much that he impregnates (and by this we all correctly read rape, because they weren’t into the man at all) them.
What sort of real world beliefs could this reinforce? What are the consequences?
Be honest.
Because your “this is all in fun lolololol” is reonforcing ideas that let men rape women.
@Lainy
In other words you’re trying to use sex as a mean to shut up men approving stuides you don’t like.
Then one wonder why I used the word “pathetic”…
@Eric
Humans. Are. Humans. Not. Bonobos. We are not the same.
I didn’t go to your blog to be an asshole, you came here.
Correction: there are 2 sides. There’s you defending a study criticized by other academics, and there’s us pointing out the flaws. I know which one you’re on.
@WWTH
This. Not everything exists to cater to the people who like it.
@Rhuu
I think for Eric here that’s a feature, not a bug. A horrifying feature.
@eric
Rape isn’t irrelevant here. There are rape victims here myself included and we have to carry that on our bodies and in our hearts for the rest of our lives like a brand.
Eric Eric Eric i can only use it to a means to shut you up if you want to have sex with me. Your colors are showing Eric and the answers is still no. I’m a married woman after all
*take OFF your smartie-smart smart pants, whoops missed a letter.
@Rhuu
No, I referenced to “the average level here”.
The study is valid, but “the evolutionary purpose of lesbianism” doesn’t equate to “the purpose of the lives of actual lesbians”.
This is an interesting question.
It could reinforce the idea that lesbians do not actually exist – as it actually did with the moron.
Or it could reinforce the idea that homosexuality is part of natural evolution and it evolved for the benefit of humankind: indeed more offspring did mean humankid spreading more, and faster. That was very important in the past.
It depends by the intentions of those who handle the theory.
@Lainy
Exactly.
Hence why the “pathetic”.
@Eric
Or it could reinforce the idea that lesbians evolved to cause men to rape them. That seems to be the implication you and your manosphere buddies are pushing. Rape is a horror for anyone of any gender or sexual orientation. Don’t be that rape apologist.
O/T: This is the fastest growing thread I’ve seen in quite a while. Sadly, it’s not because of a great intelligent conversation but because of an argument with a troll.
@eric
Man you get super bitter when a woman tells you no and that your disgusting don’t you? I’m not surprise you reek of fragile ego lol
Extrapolating from our troll here:
If men find a trait arousing, that is THE reason that it evolved, and so is its Purpose.
Since I, a cis man, find women with large, prominent noses very attractive, these noses clearly evolved to make women more desirable as mates and increase their rate of reproduction. SCIENCE!
I’m not going to touch the rape apologetics with a ten-foot pole, though.
@Eric
I know you don’t care but you are hurting real rape victims here. Myself included. I know you probably get off on that but if you keep it up your not going to be allowed back.
@Lainy
No, I actually like it very much when a female suddenly brings sex on the table as an “argument” to “convince” me.
Always, in all the circumstances, because I always win: either I accept the transaction because I think it’s valid, or I reject her and she look pathetic, as I did with you.
@eric
I never offered sex, I told you that you were disgusting. your the one taking no as an offer for sex which just makes you look like a rapist.
@Allandrel
No, “the purpose” is a strawman of your.
The actual version is:
Exactly.
Just like the boobs in women (shaped by men’s choices), and the big penis in men (shaped by women’s choices).
I’m tapping out guys, Eric is sliding into the triggering portion of the conversation for me by trying to tell me my no doesn’t actually mean no and that I want to have sex with him so I’m gonna go before it gets there. Y’all keep messing with him, please do, You guys know by now. My ptsd is hell and I don’t want to get into it right now.
@Lainy
I’m actually trying to sleep but I can’t since I drank too much coffee. I have to work tomorrow. It’s a minor problem but still a problem.
IMHO it’s highly unlikely that people who experienced actual sexual trauma would try to use sex as a mean to convince strangers to change their ideas: such kind of manipulative behavior is hardly compatible with persons who experienced real sexual trauma.
@Eric
okay you can fuck yourself to hell and back you absolute human garbage.
@Lainy
Without being sexually approached by me….
…a rapist answering: “no thanks, I’m not in the mood”: that’s what your former rapist did, too?
It’s a question, not an affirmation. I’m curious.
@Lainy
Yeah, the Rapist seems to be taking particular delight in deliberately misrepresenting everything you say.
It’s not gone unnoticed.
Given his deliberate harassment of Lainy and his frankly obvious attempt to get banned – combined with his inability to back up any of his dumbshittery – I’m going to formally ask David to give Rapist the boot.
@Eric
She never tried to use sex to persuade you of anything. You’re projecting all of this and it’s causing trouble. You’re doing real harm, which I’m sure was your goal. Fuck off.
@Lainy
I sent David an email, so hopefully this situation will be rectified soon. I’m sorry you’re having to relive it all and I hope you feel better soon.
@Gaebolga
I just sent an email, hopefully David sees it soon.
@Gaebolga
Problem being that the whole page and comments had already been saved in Webarchive.
So we have a man answering “no, thanks. I’m not in the mood” being accused to be a rapist for saying “I’m not in the mood”.
And it can’t be erased.
NOW, that’s funny, isn’t it? 😀
@eric
He bite a chunk of flesh out of thigh. He held me down by my hair. I was a teenager and a virgin. I didn’t know I could bleed so much from that area when I wasn’t on my period. But that was nothing compare to the anal bleeding. You want to know what he said? you really want to know? he said you make do this to you. And that god is not here to hear my cries. That no one was ever gonna want me now. I hear that voice when I close my eyes at night. I see the demon that was in his eyes, you don’t know that demon do you Eric? It’s not a supernatural thing, it’s a man Just a man that is filled with so much rage he wants to kill you from the inside you. He takes something from you that you can’t get back and leaves you branded. You are a low human being. And you are just bad as him in my eyes because you like to excuse it. And that’s why I fight against people you like, I fight with everything I have for anyone I can. If it takes every day of the rest of my life I will fight.
How could one sentence contain so much wrong? It’s almost impressive.
They always take the cheap shots