By David Futrelle
Lesbians around the world face a deep existential crisis today as it has been revealed that they do not, in fact, exist. At least according to some dudes on the internet. Specifically, some dudes on the Men Going Their Own Way subreddit, long a hotbed of Lesbian Denial.
In a recent discussion, a commenter by the name of NathanHollister explained that so-called “lesbians” are just straight women who can’t find quality men.
Lesbianism is not real. It’s just women who are sick and tired of unmasculine, wussy, spineless soyboy men. They will magically turn straight for a real sexy, charming man.
Basically, women who cannot find a top 20% man become lesbians. Women who can find a top 20% man but also are kinky sluts become “bi”, but mainly because they know a threesome with another girl would turn their man on.
Other commenters agreed with the “can’t get a man” theory.
“Lesbians only exist because Chad said ‘no’ and didn’t give them attention,” declared edgysecularist.
Still others feel that lesbianism is more about the hatred of men than the lack of them. According to bbhuntt:
Any ‘lesbian’ Is really a straight person who doesn’t like men and is willing to have intercourse with women rather than not have intercourse. …
Being a lesbian is the ultimate move of feminist and nothing more. It’s all a giant game
Sir_manalot suggested that it was also about status, as no one apparently has more status than women today.
[W]omen just fuck whoever they believe is highest on the social chain. Right now, women are being given a bunch of unearned power and so lesbianism is in.
Fortunately for men — or at least for the cis men who make up the overwhelming majority of MGTOWs — they have one great advantage over all these fake lesbians. And it can be found in their pants.
“You have a dick and they don’t,” wrote rejac218.
They will never know what a woman’s pussy really feels like from balls deep. You should laugh right at them.
But of course as MGTOWs they don’t spend any time at all fantasizing about said pussies. Nope! As SprinterLyfe reminded his fellow Own-Way-Goers:
Pussy is all women have to offer. By placing little or no value on pussy, we regain control of ourselves, finding legitimate freedom from feminized cultures bent on enslavement and domination of men by women.
And there’s no greater proof of the freedom these men have from women than their tendency to discuss these completely unimportant-to-them women angrily on the internet all day every day while talking about how cool their dicks are. That’s what male freedom looks like!
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Yeah bro, I’m super entitled to male attention because I want most of them to stay away from me, including you. How about this, I don’t even breath the same air as you. Is that better?
@Gaebolga
Then I will say I gave you a supportive wink to your not said joke.
@ Eric – you brought up sex (but really rape), broski. You were the one who linked to the rape study, not us.
Lainy is merely demonstrating why that study couldn’t include any lesbians, because if it did, the conclusion would be ruined.
The idea that women are preforming their interests for a male gaze so one (or both) will get preggers from being raped is disproved right here.
Because it’s gross.
Were you involved with this study? You seem very invested in it not being considered a horrifyingly rapey mess.
@Lainy – awwwww!
@general – Oh, and uh… i’m never okay with joking about sexual assault, so i’m not going to laugh at it. :/
Thank you, Lainy.
Also, that tattoo sounds very sweet! My wife has a Celtic tree of wisdom with our names and the names of our children woven into the branches; I’m touched every time I see it.
Marriage is so fucking cool.
@Rhuu
Fair enough, and my apologies.
Thanks, Kupo.
Quite close to the Cyprus Univeristy theory.
Their theory is actually:
There’s also another very similar theory:
The latter is widely accepted, why the former is controversial.
Probably because the lizards cannot protest / get offensed by the theory 😀
@Rhuu, first thank you. And second I know! He’s got the best type of skin for black ink tattoos as well. To me he’s just so perfect. The only other tattoo he wants to get is a rose over his heart if we have a daughter. He hasn’t figured out what he wants to get if we have a boy.
…and the stupid just keeps on flowing.
I have now decided that I don’t even want to share the same carbon that all live is made up of with Eric.
@eric
Why are you so obsessed with lesbians evolutionary role to be for men to rape them?
@Lainy
That’s a sweet tattoo. I’ve never really thought of bats as a symbol of love before, but now that I think of it they’re quite romantic.
I hear silicon might work…
@Eric
Because humans and lizards are different? You planning to bring up lobsters next?
In addition to your views on women, you seem to have a very low view of men. Every man is a rapist to you, it seems. I have higher opinions of men in general, and I think people are more than base drives.
Listen to them the children of the night and what sweet music they sing.
@Rhuu
“This scientific study is wrong because their theory is immoral”.
Really?
@Eric
Yes, just like how eugenics is wrong you piece of shit.
I’m not sure which is more pathetic: if Dumbass meant to fake-quote Naglfar but was too stupid to get the attribution right, or if he really did mean Rhuu and he thinks that fake-quote bears any resemblance to anything Rhuu actually said….
Ah, you said ‘theory’, not ‘results’. Have you heard of a thing called ‘ethics’?
What is the ethical justification for a theory that says ‘lesbian and bi women exist so men will rape them’?
@Gaebolga – maybe because i called it straight up a ‘rape study’?
@Lainy
I’m not particularly interested with lesbians evolutionary role.
I just highlighted that the moron saying “lesbians do not exist” have some sort of backup through the misrepresentation of such theory from Cyprus University.
Attacking the scientific theory doesn’t help, unless you attack it with serious scientific arguments.
What it could help is highlighting the misrepresentation of the theory.
There are a lot of those cases.
Another one is: “women have into the brain the DNA of the men they had sex with”.
It’s a distortion of a real scientific finding: scientists did find male DNA into female brains.
But it wasn’t their lovers’ DNA, it was their male children DNA. It’s called microchimerism, a lot of mammals have that, it’s useful to establish a bond with the offspring. In other words all the mothers have some DNA of their children, of both sexes, into their brain.
Morons use the actual theory to misrepresent women as being strange creatures.
@ Eric
But your pushing a thing that actually says lesbians purpose is to be raped so they can get pregnant by men. Do you really not see the problem with that?
Also becareful or I might “harass” you again by telling you that I don’t want to fuck you again. Wouldn’t want that would you?
@Eric
Ah, the age old debate tactic of “switch sides randomly when you’re losing.” You’ve been defending your pet study for like a dozen posts now. You’re fooling nobody.
Also, nice diversion with with microchimerism. Microchimerism is real, but it’s of IMMUNE cells, not nerve cells. Nobody said it wasn’t real, just that what Roosh et al describe beard no resemblance to the real thing. Like if someone said there was a flying pig and it was a cardinal.
@ Eric
How about “constructing a pool of people that specifically excludes the very people you are studying is a pretty transparently shitty practise.”
Or how about “pretending like socialisation plays no part in what men find sexxxxxxxy is ridiculously shortsighted.”
Or maybe “pretending that what we, as a culture, find sexxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxy is a single fixed thing denies the reality we all live in.”
People once thought frosted tips looked cool, too.
(I would have killed for some frosted tips, #90sChild)
I mean, the conclusion is so laughably wrong…
The scientific study did find that lesbian practices increase the chances to get pregnant. Pregnancy could happen in many ways: men offering resources, men raping them, etc. This isn’t relevant: what is relevant is that they did find that female homosexuality increase chances to have an offspring, while male homosexuality don’t.
This have several implications: it could be misrepresented against lesbians, or even against gays.
In the bonobos there’s a similar phenomenon, much more prononuced: heterosexual female bonobos are unlikely to have an offspring and even to survive. They have to be bisexual to be accepted by the female group that will protect and support them.
Is this theory immoral, too?
Worth noticing that the bonobos are the creatures closer to us.
Why do you keep thinking about fucking / not fucking with me?
I’m just a random poster on the net.
Eric,
The theory is not very good or at all scientific. It’s not falsifiable. And asking for the boner notes of men (who’ve been socialized a certain way, so their opinion says nothing about boner opinions thousands of years ago) provides no information about the evolutionary purposes of lesbians. Just like how I find men in sweaters attractive doesn’t mean that sweaters were made to attract me. Correlation does not equal causation.
God, evopsych trolls are tedious. And so, so bad at science.
@Eric
Because your disgusting and I intend to remind you that every time you try to defined the notion that lesbianism is to help women get pregnant for some reason. For now me and my sore legs are gonna go soak in a tub so you’ll just have to find some other poster to get upset by for a little while.
Bwa ha ha ha ha ha ha!
Pro tip: if you’re not going to link to the study supporting your claim, maybe try to get the claim right.
Because getting it wrong makes you look like a fucking moron.
Dumbass.
@Naglfar
I’m not switching sides: I still think that the Cyprus study is very valid and I don’t get sides.
There aren’t sides: there’s me highlighting a theory partially backing the moron (who’s misrepresenting it) and some people getting offensed by the existence of an academic study.
I just observe. For my benefit.
The one time a misogynist prefers comparing humans to bonobos rather than the more violent and patriarchal chimpanzee and it’s to defend the corrective rape of queer women. Go figure.