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Western incels furious they’re being denied a hologram waifu in a jar

No “Japanese jailbait holo gitls” for you, incels, unless you speak their language

By David Futrelle

Several years ago, I wrote about a holographic “virtual companion” that seemed designed to fulfill the romantic fetishes of every anime-obsessed incel. “Azuma,” as she was known, was basically a tiny, chatty waifu encased in a jar she could never escape from — seemingly a Black Mirror episode waiting to happen.

Unfortunately, at least for Western weebs, the tiny kidnapped princess only spoke Japanese.

Now, the company behind Azuma has announced an English language version of the device is on the way. But it’s not going to look much like the original. The holographic image has been replaced by a 2D version on a tablet. And the tiny waifu herself has been swapped out for more “realistic”-looking characters, including a gym bro and a stern-looking adult woman. The makers hope to sell the device not to lonely men with anime fetishes but to companies looking for “virtual concierges” and greeters to help customers check in on cruise ships and at gyms.

The world’s creepiest dudes are, not surprisingly, outraged by this development. Billy D., the histrionic cultural critic who runs the One Angry Gamer site, shouts his disappointment to the heavens, lamenting that the new version of the device has replaced a perfectly good “anime waifu” with

a bossy looking feminist in a purple pantsuit, and a douche bag personal training assistant who looks like he injected steroids into his jowls. …

[T]here’s zero sex appeal or attractive qualities to the Westernized models they are using … Instead of being comforting and welcoming, they have a cold, stand-offish design for the female, making her appear like a typical Left-wing feminist that no one wants to talk to; follows Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on social media; and spends all of her free time with her cats while complaining about President Donald Trump on Twitter. She’s also probably a lesbian.

In short, the design for the female assistant in the Western version of Gatebox is nothing short of a cancer-inducing wench.

I don’t know; she sounds kind of cool to me.

On the Incels.co forums, meanwhile, the regulars are if anything even angrier.

“Why can’t they realize we want to escape reality with cute anime grills and not std-ridden sjw banshees?” asked one commenter. “Why do companies bend the knees to shrill, shrieking feminists on Twitter?”

Another replied:

Whoever made this decision should commit sewerside in roblox

JFL THE BITCH LOOKS LIKE ANITA SARKEESEAN 

Well, vaguely, I guess.

“Women shouldn’t wear pants,” still another commenter added.

But one incel shared his idea for a possible workaround: Just learn Japanese!

“Jesus fucking christ,” he wrote.

I’m learning Japanese and Kanji right now just to play porn games and because I dont have a life, but I guess another good reason for it is so I can import Japanese [jailbait] holo girls instead of getting ugly feminist western bitch versions.

Lovely.

If you want to see what non-Japanese-speaking incels will be missing, here’s the creepy, cringey promo for the Japanese model.

And if you want to see what the Westernized version of the device will look like, check out this report from Endgadget.

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IronCthulhu
IronCthulhu
8 months ago

@Buttercup Q. Skullpants

Being asinine should cost money.

I use BitTube Browser. Being asinine on the Internet literally makes me money.

Because women are tired of being the default gender for servility

Everyone serves in one way or another. Assistant isn’t the worst thing in the world. Maybe they just prefer a female voice?

and because the temptation to abuse and belittle realistically female-sounding digital assistants is too strong for some men

Pretty sure they’d be abusing & insulting regardless of the type of voice. It’s just curiosity on how it will respond. I’d say the novelty eventually wears off like it does with potty humor.

and because that then spills over into their real-life attitudes towards women

Assuming we’re dealing with people who don’t know the difference between fiction and reality.

What are these “ridiculous levels”

I’m talking about the Paretto distribution, where 80% of women are chasing 20% of men.

, and how are Red Pill demands for submissive HB10 virgins who fuck like porn stars and don’t require food, shelter, and clothing any less ridiculous?

If you’re referring to sex robots, if you’re going to go through the trouble of buying one then you might as well make it look perfect. You’re not going to give it skin blemishes & love handles & varicose veins on purpose. That doesn’t mean you have unrealistic expectations about real women. Remember these are being marketed to men who feel that a relationship with a real woman is not an option for them.

I assume you’re talking about ogling, pedestaling, and catcalling here. Women would be perfectly fine if men stopped doing that. It’s not flattering, it’s annoying and terrifying. You wouldn’t want to be subjected to it either.

I was referring to the attention they specifically look for on social media. It has made a lot of women very narcissistic. Also the lack of geographic limitations that used to place practical limits on the pool of men a woman could possibly meet. Gone now. Again thanks to the Internet.

And no, I’m not arguing that we should try and wind back the clock on history or take away womens choices, so cool your jets. I’m saying it has made women a lot more picky. That’s the new social reality that men have to operate in. If it becomes too difficult to find a woman to have a relationship with, men will seek out greener pastures in one way or another. You can’t blame them for that unless you expect them to become monks.

I suspect that that iswhat some of you expect.

Naglfar
Naglfar
8 months ago

@IronCthulhu

Pretty sure they’d be abusing & insulting regardless of the type of voice. It’s just curiosity on how it will respond. I’d say the novelty eventually wears off like it does with potty humor.

Studies would beg to differ.

Assuming we’re dealing with people who don’t know the difference between fiction and reality.

Which it is clear you and your manosphere buddies do not.

I’m talking about the Paretto distribution, where 80% of women are chasing 20% of men.

[Citation needed]

I was referring to the attention they specifically look for on social media. It has made a lot of women very narcissistic.

[Citation needed]

If it becomes too difficult to find a woman to have a relationship with, men will seek out greener pastures in one way or another.

Translation: “If women start actually having standards for who they will date, men will get sad.”

Cat Mara
Cat Mara
8 months ago

Nobody mentioned the GymChad™ avatar in the Engadget clip? Obviously, maximum trollage would be achieved by replacing all instances of waifu with GymChad™.

Give me one that acts like an evil sidekick, reporting on the status of my orbiting death-ray platform and I’m sold.

Fabe
Fabe
8 months ago

Would using on of the female voice pack from here be that misogynistic?

https://www.hcsvoicepacks.com/

I plan on getting one or two for Elite:Dangerous.

Cat Mara
Cat Mara
8 months ago

Also, seeing “girl in a jar” over and over has got Cristina’s “Deb Behind Bars” stuck in my head now…

Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
8 months ago

I’m talking about the Paretto distribution, where 80% of women are chasing 20% of men.

This statistic gets flung around a lot, but it’s pretty meaningless outside of Tindr.

I’m saying it has made women a lot more picky. That’s the new social reality that men have to operate in. If it becomes too difficult to find a woman to have a relationship with, men will seek out greener pastures in one way or another. You can’t blame them for that unless you expect them to become monks.

I think it’s a win-win for everybody. I’m fascinated by the idea of men for whom treating women as equals is so onerous, so burdensome, so incredibly unrealistic, that buying and maintaining a $20,000 sexbot looks like the easier option. And equally fascinated by the idea that this somehow represents a loss for women. Men who view women as fungible were never going to make good partners anyway, so why not improve the dating pool? I don’t see what the problem is here.

Surplus to Requirements, Observer of the Vast Blight-Wing Enstupidation
Surplus to Requirements, Observer of the Vast Blight-Wing Enstupidation
8 months ago

@Tripoli:

Can we get mooooore cartoon animal/object digital assistants again, please.

Be careful what you wish for. What if Microsoft brings back that infamous paperclip?!

@Naglfar:

Studies would beg to differ.

?? A blank page? <disables CSS> Still blank? So there’s no text anywhere in the body tag? WTF?

Cyborgette
Cyborgette
8 months ago

@IronCthulhu

I’m talking about the Paretto distribution, where 80% of women are chasing 20% of men.

IDK if this is true, but when you consider

a) a majority of men (by looks) seem to not give a fuck about their appearance

b) really handsome men (again IME) tend to be privileged assholes who aren’t used to being told ‘no’

c) something like 15% of men are serial predators*, and will generally present very charming and then exploit us once they’re in our good graces

it’s pretty obvious why women don’t chase men very much – it’s simply not worth the effort, since so many men are boring and ugly and some of them will even abuse us in return for our attention. (And again, the abusive ones have a higher chance of being handsome and charming.)

Growing up as a bi boy, with mostly female friends, teaches you things about this. You see the fear hit your friends around age 15 – the realization that they’re smaller than the boys now, and adults don’t believe them as much, and a boy who doesn’t like their flirting could actually physically murder them. Watching that happen was one of the most depressing things I’ve ever experienced, and now I get to see it happen all over again (all the fucking time) with new trans fems.

Do I sound angry? Oh hell yes I am angry. The tip of the iceberg you see is us not openly chasing you. The part under the water is what patriarchy does to us. Even as a teenager what I saw of patriarchy made me want to murder the sadistic male God who had imposed it, and learning the details (and accepting the absence of a prime mover) has not calmed me any. It wouldn’t calm you either, if you’d seen the same shit in person.

Naglfar
Naglfar
8 months ago

@Surplus
I linked to the UN website, which uses an embedded viewer. Try this link to directly download the PDF:
https://unesdoc.unesco.org/in/rest/annotationSVC/DownloadWatermarkedAttachment/attach_import_77988d38-b8bd-4cc1-b9b4-3cc16d631bf9?_=367416eng.pdf&to=146&from=1

O/T: Boy George has come out as transphobic, also seems to not know what pronouns are. I’m actually rather surprised, seeing as he originally was known for a gender non-conforming aesthetic and is openly bisexual one would expect him to have some respect for trans* people but apparently not. Fan response seems to be negative, but TERF organizations are stepping up to defend him.

Bina
8 months ago

@Buttercup:

At least cat love is earned, not pre-programmed.

I suspect that that’s what infuriates these guys about cats and women both. We’re not robot slaves, we’re living creatures that have to be convinced to like someone. And these guys hate having to do any such convincing, because life without algorithms (and cheat codes) is haaaaaard.

Lainy
Lainy
8 months ago

Yeah I know incels hate this but you actually have to be a person worthy of love to be loved when your an adult. This has nothing to do with looks but about working on your toxic baggage before entering a relationship so your shit doesn’t become someone else unhappiness. The adult world hurts but if you want to be loved you have to be loveable.

M K
M K
8 months ago

I do think it’s weird, from a marketing and profit-making perspective, not to put out some version of the original waifu program translated into various languages passably enough that incels around the world will spend money on it.

That said, I feel like if you really wanted one of these things, you could either learn Japanese, like that one guy from the post is doing, or find/create a dubbed program for English-speakers or speakers of whatever non-Japanese language you speak. Aren’t these people always bitching about how they’re the Real Nerds (and women are Fake Nerds), and they’re the ones whose brains are evolved for STEM/tech? So mod the program, guys.

Or hell, just write to the company and let them know there’s a market for this.

(I mean, ideally they would work on themselves to the point where they can interact and be satisfied and respectful with real women, but that’s probably not going to happen.)

Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
8 months ago

@IronCthulhu

Trolling is a art.

It’s not an art. You’re not an artist. Nor is it a science. And you’re certainly no scientist.

Nah, a troll composes the online equivalent of what were known as poison pen letters back in the day.

A poison pen letter is a letter or note containing unpleasant, abusive, or malicious statements or accusations about the recipient or a third party. It is usually sent anonymously. In the term “poison pen”, the word poison is used figuratively, rather than literally. Poison pen letters are usually composed and sent to upset the recipient. They differ from blackmail, which is intended to obtain something from the recipient. In contrast, poison pen letters are purely malicious.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poison_pen_letter

Fetch
Fetch
8 months ago

you heard it here first! the female equivalent of a fake girlfriend in a jar, is an actual living man. because… men are robots? because women never deserve attention so it must be a trick? who knows! but IronCthulhu is sure that actual human interaction is just like an algorithm, and you should definitely trust him, because he thinks bitcoin is money.

sunnysombrera
sunnysombrera
8 months ago

@MK
I was thinking the same, but the creators perhaps don’t think there are enough incels in the West that would buy it (and they’re right). Hell, there’d probably be a bunch of mocking press releases too which would damage the brand image.

I really don’t know much about Japanese social or cultural issues so take what I say lightly, but from what i understand the lonely men/”otaku” market is greater in number so they assume this waifu version of the product would sell well enough as is. But they adapted it based on what they perceived a Western audience would want.

Katamount
8 months ago

Not gonna lie, that promo video filled me with existential dread. I mean, I allow fictional characters to run around my brain and like everyone, indulge in plenty of fantasy in the comfort of my own surroundings, but candle-lit dinners for an anime girl in a jar? How does your soul not run screaming out of your body like it just saw Kabal’s face?

I mean, this isn’t the Blade Runner universe or Star Trek where AI is advanced enough to obtain sentience, but sentience alone doesn’t necessarily indicate the kind of emotional intelligence necessary to offer the kind of reciprocity required of companionship (Data crashed and burned his first time out). The best this thing can do right now is mimic those emotional cues, and even then, I foresee plenty of purchasers getting bored and annoyed by it very quickly.

And I’m really not sure what’s more terrifying, that people actually sat down to program this thing or that there’s enough of a demand for it that it got the investment capital to get off the ground.

Get off the internet, incels. Make human connections. Anything.

Naglfar
Naglfar
8 months ago

@Katamount

Get off the internet, incels. Make human connections. Anything.

Be careful what you wish for. They’d probably interpret that as “harass random people” if not worse.

Katamount
8 months ago

@naglfar

Be careful what you wish for. They’d probably interpret that as “harass random people” if not worse.

They have to rediscover empathy for others somehow. That online community is an IV drip of poison.

rv97
rv97
8 months ago

Thank you for recommending that service whoever mentioned it, looks like I’m gonna get myself a slice of the pie and use it for my own means or against what you stand for eventually.

Naglfar
Naglfar
8 months ago

@Katamount

They have to rediscover empathy for others somehow. That online community is an IV drip of poison.

I know, and I would hope they could reintegrate into the real world and break free of their horrid ideology. Some have done it, so we know it’s possible. I was just worried that they might then simply try to bring their ideology into force in meatspace.

Jenora Feuer
Jenora Feuer
8 months ago

Regarding ‘you remind me of the babe’…

While I loved Labyrinth, am I one of the few remaining people on the planet that remembers Cary Grant doing the same ‘hoodoo/who do?’ routine back in the 1940s in The Bachelor and the Bobby Soxer? (Granted, it was ‘man’ instead of ‘babe’, but otherwise…)

Back more on topic… social interaction is a good thing. There was a neurobiologist on the radio this morning who was noting that social interaction was a good way to help ‘age gracefully’, because it’s a complicated subject that requires a fair bit of brain activity and flexibility. A ‘bot in a box is somewhat sub-par for that.

Sadly, we have already had plenty of examples of incels who had no intentions of getting old at all.

Moon Custafer
Moon Custafer
8 months ago

@Jenora:

I couldn’t recall the movie, but I knew the meme went back to the 1940s (if not earlier).

Surplus to Requirements, Observer of the Vast Blight-Wing Enstupidation
Surplus to Requirements, Observer of the Vast Blight-Wing Enstupidation
8 months ago

@Kat:

They differ from blackmail, which is intended to obtain something from the recipient. In contrast, poison pen letters are purely malicious.

So, to summarize, “Donald Trump’s tweets”.

A. Noyd
A. Noyd
8 months ago

sunnysombrera says:

But they adapted it based on what they perceived a Western audience would want.

It should be noted that the Gatebox is a platform which was created to have uses beyond emotional support for lonely misogynists. There’s already a market for robot receptionists and concierges and, more globally, for virtual home assistants. Gatebox is trying to get a slice of that. Rather than adapting the Gatebox to a different purpose in foreign markets, they’re simply choosing to promote the concierge/assistant half of the business which already existed.

The pantsuit woman and gymbro characters themselves, on the other hand, certainly appear to be deliberately tailored to a Western audience. But the platform was always meant to run custom character designs and interaction scripts. In fact, the company itself says the “waifu” character is inappropriate for business purposes and other options are available.

Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
8 months ago

@Surplus to Requirements

They differ from blackmail, which is intended to obtain something from the recipient. In contrast, poison pen letters are purely malicious.

So, to summarize, “Donald Trump’s tweets”.

Yes, the man and his messages are pure malice.

IronCthulhu
IronCthulhu
8 months ago

@WWTH

You’re really overestimating how much feminists care about your wanking habits. We really, really don’t. We only know about your theoretical future wank habits because you decided to come in here and tell us. I promise you, we weren’t losing sleep wondering about it.

@Catalpa

Your version of trolling consists of doing something that only you can see but would presumably really piss off feminists if they knew about it?

I mean, the idea that your fantasy is subjugating whomever you think of as the face of feminism is gross, don’t get me wrong. But this is about as sophisticated a form of trolling as holding your fingers up close to your eye and squishing the heads of people you dislike.

Let’s not jump to conclusions about my theoretical future wanking habits. Not that I don’t have them, but let’s focus. I have no theoretical future wanking habits that involve a virtual Chanty Binx for example. That would be gross. Plus I think she’s more suited to guys with a trampling fetish. Not my scene.

I’d model a digital assistant on whoever the latest angry misandrist was, but make her all sweet & old fashioned and have her bake virtual brownies & stuff. Use AI rendering to subtract a couple of hundred pounds, remove tattoos & face piercings, then I’d upload a copy of her to the Internets & see if she goes viral.

Naglfar
Naglfar
8 months ago

@IronCthulhu

have her bake virtual brownies & stuff.

Still, I doubt anyone, feminist or not, would care. Also, you can’t eat virtual brownies so it just sounds like a waste of time.

Use AI rendering to subtract a couple of hundred pounds, remove tattoos & face piercings, then I’d upload a copy of her to the Internets & see if she goes viral.

Since I have better things to do, I can’t say I really care. Make digital models if you want.

Fabe
Fabe
8 months ago

@IronCthulhu

You are as edgy as a plastic spoon.

Gaebolga
Gaebolga
8 months ago

@Fabe

He’s also boring and repetitive as fuck.

If trolling really were an art, his efforts would be velvet Elvis paintings.

cornychips
cornychips
8 months ago

@trollll

Bruuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhh

my stoned eyes are rolling like a mothafucker

up your game brah. I assuming you are another sock; your troll game is weeeeeeak (unless you are a protege of our vile steele). Youre gonna get banned for being boring. so get better at trolling and get banned later, brooooseph

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

It took IC two days to come up with basically a bitch, make me a sandwich joke? That’s just said.

Meanwhile, as an evil 3D real person feminist, I sometimes make baked goods you can actually eat. I wouldn’t share them with a troll though

Naglfar
Naglfar
8 months ago

@WWTH

I sometimes make baked goods you can actually eat. I wouldn’t share them with a troll though

Same here on both.

Lainy
Lainy
8 months ago

Is this troll that mral lad who use to stalk around and make a lot of fake accounts?

Lainy
Lainy
8 months ago

Also @ naglfar

Since this thread got pretty derailed by the troll I want to tell you about my new tattoo I got that you suggest for one my shoulders. It’s a map view of the world and I’m gonna add a dot for each place I’ve travel too. First two this summer are going to be Canada and Japan! It for some reason hurt way more then the one on my thigh and my ribs. My leg wouldn’t stop twitching the whole time and I was so worried it would ruin it but it turned out really nice.

Naglfar
Naglfar
8 months ago

@Lainy

I want to tell you about my new tattoo I got that you suggest for one my shoulders. It’s a map view of the world and I’m gonna add a dot for each place I’ve travel too. First two this summer are going to be Canada and Japan! It for some reason hurt way more then the one on my thigh and my ribs. My leg wouldn’t stop twitching the whole time and I was so worried it would ruin it but it turned out really nice.

That’s great. I’ll have to tell my friend who has the map tattoo that she indirectly inspired this.
Oh, and enjoy your trip. What part of Canada are you headed to? I’ve been to a few parts of Canada but I’ve never been to Japan.

Quentin Long
8 months ago

sez Citerior Motive: “The Black Mirror episode would involve one of these ‘virtual companions’ gaining sentience and turning on her owner, right? Bonus points if she also functions as a PA, like a more advanced version of Alexa or whatever, so she has the power to really fuck the person’s life up.”

Sounds like you’ve just described the plot of Jexi?

Lainy
Lainy
8 months ago

@naglfar

We’re going to see the falls on the candian side basically. I’m going to visit my older brother and that’s one of the main things he wants to show me. Then the Japan trip is to visit my husband. Being apart from him for 11 months then getting just a month with him isn’t going to be enough for me right now

Bryce
Bryce
8 months ago

simply not worth the effort, since so many men are boring and ugly and some of them will even abuse us in return for our attention.

… women don’t chase primarily because rejection sucks and there isn’t a need to when the social norm still dictates this is men’s role. And you can bet “ugly boring” dudes don’t enjoy this role.

SmokedGouda
SmokedGouda
7 months ago

@IronCthulhu

Being asinine on the Internet literally makes me money.

I guess you’ve got no choice but to get by on the limited skills you have

Kevin
Kevin
3 months ago

David (and other commenters), setting aside ridiculous incel/manosphere takes on sexbots, what are your thoughts on sexbots in general? Do you think they could be dangerous by reinforcing misogyny? Do you think they should be banned?

EDIT: I apologize if you already covered this issue before, I’m a first-time poster, I used the search function but didn’t find anything.