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Incels welcome possible war with Iran because “the more dead normies the better”

By David Futrelle

Over on Incels.co, the regulars seem pretty stoked about what appears to be an impending US war with Iran. When one commenter asked his fellow “involuntary” celibates whether they thought there would be a war, a commenter called FinnCel answered with a hearty “I sure hope so.”

A commenter calling himself RemoveNormalf*gs quintupled his comrade’s enthusiasm, posting

I hope
I hope
I hope
I hope
I hope

Someone called Emergency Manual explained just what it was it was about this as-of-this-moment-still-hypothetical war that appeals to incels so much:

The more dead normies the better.

And there will certainly be quite a few “dead normies,” especially in Iran itself.

“I just eat popcorn and look at others killing each other,” FInnCel added.

Not all of the assembled incels were quite so enthusiastic. Some doubted a war would happen. Others railed against “k*kes” and worried about being “drafted to die for Israel.” And one suggested that

Iran would treat every American on this forum better than America would… Think about that if they try to draft you.

Apparently quite a few incels are under the delusion that every man in Iran is automatically gifted a hottie virgin wife.

At least you can’t say that the incels aren’t interested in foreign policy.

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Crip Dyke
9 months ago

Incels: Never missing an opportunity to make things worse.

Naglfar
Naglfar
9 months ago

Wait…I thought incels said all wars were fought over women’s butts. Doesn’t this disprove them? I’m not seeing any butts in the news related to the upcoming war.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
9 months ago

@ crip dyke

You like law stuff. There was a documentary series a few years back about the Iranian court system. They had amazing access. Iranian family law isn’t exactly feminist; but women are allowed to divorce on grounds of impotence or mental deficiency. So the courts were full of women saying “He can’t get it up and he’s loopy!”. There are women at court who lend the Petitioners conservative dress just for the hearings. Iran has the highest per capita spend on lingerie* of any country!

(*Or as the late great Victoria Wood called it “complicated underwear”)

Lainy
Lainy
9 months ago

This would be kind of funny if I didn’t have a talk with my husband last night that if he ends up in the middle of the way to not be a hero and to let everyone else die first if that means he gets to come home, I said this like half jokingly.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
9 months ago

@ lainy

Ugh; I really feel for you; and all service families right now.

If it’s any consolation, the experts are saying that any Iranian reprisals are like to take the form of asymmetrical warfare rather than engaging US forces directly.

Snowberry
Snowberry
9 months ago

Whenever there’s a prospect of war, creepy losers and wannabe abusers (nearly always same thing) are salivating over the prospect of fewer men = better chance at getting women. Or failing that, better chance of getting away with rape.

But if the war doesn’t hit home, then the loss of men will be trivial compared to the total population. Also, in most countries, women serve in the military as well, even if to a lesser extent in most cases. And if the war does hit home, there’s a major reduction in all genders. It doesn’t work out nearly as well as they’d hope, either way.

Also, if it did work like that, I’d tell my boyfriend to take a temporary harem of straight women and I’d take the bi ones. You still ain’t getting nobody, losers. (Yes, tasteless, I know, but I’m in a weird mood.)

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

Why don’t they enlist so they can get free Chadovers from the military? They’ll build muscle, get a free haircut and receive a uniform. Plus, they can attract Stacies with the prospect of spousal benefits.

Moggie
Moggie
9 months ago

@WWTH, the military probably has a wrist circumference entrance requirement or something.

Crip Dyke
9 months ago

@Alan:

That is interesting. I’ll have to go searching for that doc.

Lainy
Lainy
9 months ago

@alan thank you but that doesn’t really help. I don’t want anyone to get hurt or killed obviously. I’m just really scared and anxious for everyone

@wwth

You have to pay for the hair cuts. At least in the Marines

Jesalin, Goddess of Lust & Pleasure
Jesalin, Goddess of Lust & Pleasure
9 months ago

@WWTH, the military probably has a wrist circumference entrance requirement or something.

I bet they measure canthal tilt too!

Naglfar
Naglfar
9 months ago

@Lainy
I wish for the best for you and your husband. Here’s hoping this doesn’t force him into battle.

@WWTH
The haircut thing reminds me of this Terminal Lance comic.

@WWTH

Why don’t they enlist so they can get free Chadovers from the military?

Because then they might die to save normies and feeeemoids.

@Jesalin
Is canthal tilt the angle of your eyes? I’ll admit I’ve never actually paid any attention to that.

Jesalin, Goddess of Lust & Pleasure
Jesalin, Goddess of Lust & Pleasure
9 months ago

Yep. I’m not sure if they’re still on about it, but it was all the rage in incel circles for a while.

Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
9 months ago

Idiots who sit around eating popcorn and hoping for war so they can watch other people die…aren’t these the same idiots who whine nonstop about men being sent off to die as cannon fodder?

@Naglfar – Yes, it’s the angle of the eyes relative to a horizontal line. Tsurime vs. tarime, in anime terms. Supposedly negative canthal tilt is bad, but many men considered attractive have negative tilt (Paul McCartney, Ryan Gosling). Puppy dog eyes are hard to resist.

(Edit: ninja’d by Jesalin!)

Naglfar
Naglfar
9 months ago

Upon looking in a mirror, I appear to have a slight negative canthal tilt. This has had absolutely zero effect on me ever and I didn’t notice it until I looked in a mirror specifically to see it.

AJ Canberra
AJ Canberra
9 months ago

Can’t wait for our dipshit PM to start sending Australian military personnel to fight Trump’s asinine war.

Tohka
Tohka
9 months ago

@Snowberry

Incels and mgtows salivating over the prospect of a WW3 because it’ll mean they can act as the survivalist and deny women in need too. They love the idea of women suffering and Chads and normies dying while they rot alone in their bedrooms with only text on a computer screen as their source of socialization. I remember a while back when there was flooding in Houston TX, mgtows would openly admit in hoping that they would be near women struggling to survive only to ignore them and just drink their beer. Any semblance of basic human kindness was frowned upon. It was disturbing.

@weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

Oh no please no. My immediate family wasn’t a military one but almost all of my extended family are/were military in almost every branch besides coast guard. Sexism is still alive in it. DV gets swept under the rug alot, specially if done by higher ranked officers. It’s depressing having heard the stories….The last thing the military needs is a bunch of incels to be deployed to another country where they could hurt the locals too. Heck, the air force even recognized them as a dangerous group.

Troubelle: Moonbeam Malcontent, Bard of the New Movement
Troubelle: Moonbeam Malcontent, Bard of the New Movement
9 months ago

…Fucking sigh.

Lumipuna
Lumipuna
9 months ago

I’m not seeing any butts in the news related to the upcoming war.

A lot of the news illustrations seem to feature a literal trash fire at Baghdad airport.

(It was in three out of five image thumbnails on the Guardian’s “most read” list on Friday.)

Definitely not Steve
Definitely not Steve
9 months ago

What the actual fuck? I go without internet for three days and I come back to possibly actually the start of World War Three?

This is… sincerely depressing. I am very scared for Iranians all over the world.

Naglfar
Naglfar
9 months ago

@Tokha

I remember a while back when there was flooding in Houston TX, mgtows would openly admit in hoping that they would be near women struggling to survive only to ignore them and just drink their beer.

I also recall MGTOWs and MRAs during various natural disasters suggesting that they try to force women to trade sexual favors for food and shelter. These are people who will use any opportunity to hurt others and make gains.

Paireon
Paireon
9 months ago

…Welp. This happened.

Of course they have zero empathy. Of course they have chubbies at the thought of their “competition” dying horribly. Of course those who have doubts are more worried about covering their pathetic asses. Of course they’re being antisemites about it because why the fuck not? Of course they claim that a country with a pretty abysmal human rights record would treat them better because in a freer more democratic country they can’t get girls to give them the time of day by being misogynistic creeps. Of course they complain about “men having to die for Stacy in wars for the whole of history” but when the actual possibility comes along they’re going “Lul Chads n normie NPCs gunna die yay”.

Anyone else hearing “Land of Confusion” in their heads right now? Because as much as that song and its accompanying video clip was a send-up/wake-up call for the eighties/Reagan/Thatcher era, I can’t help but think it’s actually even more relevant now.

@Lainy – Here’s hoping your husband stays safe and PTSD-free.

Catalpa
Catalpa
9 months ago

Why don’t they enlist so they can get free Chadovers from the military?

Given the typical violent fantasies that the incels tend to indulge in, I feel like having them serve in the military is a recipe for war crimes.

Ohlmann
Ohlmann
9 months ago

Also, the army isn’t a trash can, and the skills they search include “being patient, adaptative, and don’t ask for too much comfort”. They most pointedly don’t include “be a whiny fuckboy, a murderous asshole, and never do any effort to help with a problem”.

In addition to the war crimes, please don’t let them touch weapons if at all possible. Imagine if Stanislav Petrov have been an incel.

Snowberry
Snowberry
9 months ago

We all know that you need to be at least 7½ feet tall and have beefy masculine wrists to join the military. Incels, who are hideous freaks because they’re shorter than 6¼ feet and have skinny feminine wrists, will never qualify. Women are exempt from such qualifications because the feminist overlords demand vanity service, as no woman has died from battle ever.

/s, obviously.

Rahu
Rahu
9 months ago

Alan Robershaw and Crip Dyke –

The documentary sounded interesting, so I went looking. I believe this is it, in full, for free on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYaRb070r8E

Thanks!

– Rahu

Rahu
Rahu
9 months ago

I also highly recommend this film:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1832382/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
9 months ago

@ rahu

Thank you ever so much for locating the documentary. I’ve just been watching it again. It’s funny how, despite some local differences, fundamentally all court proceedings seems the same. There was another documentary a few years back about the Karachi courts. You could tell that the makers were going for a vibe of how palm tree justice it was meant to be; but every lawyer I knew just thought “That might as well be Horseferry Road Magistrates Court”.

Bina
9 months ago

Dear incels: If your lives are really as shit as you say they are, why don’t YOU volunteer to go to Iran? That way, you’ll be killing two very pesky birds (so to speak) with the same stone.

PS: For Lainy and her man:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cdFuMgMkBM

This one dates back to the Vietnam war. Plus ça change.

Lainy
Lainy
9 months ago

Here’s hoping your husband stays safe and PTSD-free.

Thanks. But even if he did get ptsd that’s something we can deal with. I have complex PTSD and he deals with it so wonderfully. Every trigger, every flinch, every flash black, every night woken up screaming or not knowing where i am, every high and low he handles then so beautifully that I would gladly do the same for him in a heart beat. As long as there is love for me in his heart and that heart is beating anything is just a bill to climb.

Cindy
Cindy
9 months ago

I sometimes wonder, what is to be done with Incels? Clearly they are beyond redemption and rehabilitation; our resources are better spent on helping their victims anyway. Do we just shut down their online forums, isolate them, and hope none of them pull an Elliot Rodger? Or are stronger measures needed?

Bananananana dakry: Short-Haired, Fat, and Deranged
Bananananana dakry: Short-Haired, Fat, and Deranged
9 months ago

@Lainy

Sounds like a keeper. <3

Robert
Robert
9 months ago

Iran, China and Russia are holding joint military exercises in the Gulf of Oman.

I’m thinking of my grandparents reading the news in 1940, when my father was twenty. Our younger son is eighteen.

You can ignore history, but there’s no guarantee that it will ignore you.

epitome of incomprehensibility

@Lainy – I hope he doesn’t have to fight and both of you stay safe. It sounds like you have a really strong relationship.

Both of my bosses & many of my co-workers are Persian. They have friends and family in Iran. If the situation escalates, people like them could be “collateral damage.”

I read that at least one (if not both) of the leaders killed had ties to terrorist groups, but the U.S. strike seemed like a terrorist attack too. I mean, technically it’s not since it’s by a state and not a rogue group, but the action itself, attacking and killing people in a nation you’re not at war with? Gah. And this could hurt people on both sides who don’t deserve it.

On a lighter note, the wrist circumference/canthal tilt comments made me laugh. Oh, incels, never change (/s, of course).

Diptych
Diptych
9 months ago

the U.S. strike seemed like a terrorist attack too. I mean, technically it’s not since it’s by a state and not a rogue group

Official state actors can absolutely commit terrorism – and often do. As for whether assassinating government officials in the hope of triggering an international incident is terrorism or a different kind of crime, well, I’m not qualified to say.

TacticalProgressive
TacticalProgressive
9 months ago

@Ohlmann

Also, the army isn’t a trash can, and the skills they search include “being patient, adaptative, and don’t ask for too much comfort”. They most pointedly don’t include “be a whiny fuckboy, a murderous asshole, and never do any effort to help with a problem”.

In addition to the war crimes, please don’t let them touch weapons if at all possible. Imagine if Stanislav Petrov have been an incel.

Apparently if the GOP have their way they are going to turn the military into a trashcan: current word through the grapevine is the GOP led senate cut white nationalism as something to screen military enlistees on. Because that’s somehow a good idea: letting racist, fascist, authoritarian, bigots and outright Nazi’s enlist to get professional military training so they can take those skills back home for their Neo-Reactionary Conservative hate groups and domestic terrorist organizations to kill minority citizens, or to go abroad to commit war crimes, genocide and other atrocities against non-white foreigners overseas.

Everyone stay safe and frosty.