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Incel genocide? Conspiracy theorist claims the government is trying to eradicate beta genes by refusing to fund incel plastic surgery

It all makes sense now

By David Futrelle

You’ve all heard of “white genocide,” I presume — that racist conspiracy theory claiming that evil “cultural marxists” are trying to genocide the white race by encouraging whites to miscegenate white genes away until, several centuries down the line, everyone on earth is the same shade of tan?

Now the incels have their own weirdly complicated genocide theory, courtesy of an Incels.co commenter called Metabuxx, who is convinced that the government’s refusal to fund plastic surgery for incels is part of a massive plot to “eradicat[e] beta genes from the genepool.”

Let’s let him explain:

The biggest problem most nations face today is overpopulation and there are very few ways to control it. First one is genocide of subhuman beta males as we are nothing more than biological wastes and our deaths won’t affect the economies of nations at all.

Metabuxx acknowledges that the earth’s evil rulers — presumably Chads and Stacies all — haven’t yet started murdering betas en masse yet. But that’s just because they know they don’t have to.

[T]hey are not opting for [mass murder] yet because the problem is still solvable by a more subtle approach, which is eradicating beta genes from the genepool.

The first step in this dastardly plan? Give women the right to decide who they want to have sex with.

[T]o accomplish this they have given women all the power in the world. Governments have know all along that women are hypergamous in nature and they will never breed with a beta male. So by giving them the power, they are making sure that the process of mate selection strictly resides in their hands.

Naturally, the ladies choose to have sex only with Chad and his black counterpart, known amongst racist incels as Tyrone. This will ensure that no beta males will be able to pass along their beta genes.

Government wants the new generation of men to be the descendants of Chads and Tyrones solely and since only 5% of men will be breeding with 100% of foids the population is bound to decrease.

Naturally, the evil feminists are involved.

And the government extending its full support to the feminist movement whose primary purpose to put an end to the practices of women cohabiting with beta males further supports my theory. This is the reason why feminists glorify cheating, polyamory, abortions, hookup culture and women who do these things are labeled as empowered and independent.

But the government knows that if incels could get plastic surgery they too could look like Chad and Tyrone — and possibly fool the, er, “foids.”

The reason why governments won’t fund looksmaxing surgeries is because if we get it, we’ll be as good as Chads and foids won’t be able to spot the difference between us and natural Chads. And if some foid mistakenly bred with us our subhuman genes won’t be exterminated from the genepool, which is not what the government wants.

So the government nefariously refuses to fund this foid-fooling surgery, thus ensuring that only a tiny percentage of incels will be able to afford it.

But even those betas who can afford to make themselves look like Chad won’t be able to pass on their genes due to … *checks notes* … VACCINES!

[I]f some rich beta does gets a looksmaxing surgery, the government has a backup plan too, which is vaccination. Our genes are not strong enough to resist the side effects of vaccines that is autism but Chad’s powerful genes can easily resist it. Vaccines are strictly designed to harm betas, not foids and Chads. That’s why the government funds vaccination programs so that we become autistic and foids could easily spot that we are subhumans and refrain from breeding with us.

And so those with beta genes will ultimately be wiped off the face of the earth, eventually, with the process of their eradication sped up a little by … *checks notes again* … land mines?

Its a very big conspiracy against us and we are losing every battle and in a couple hundred years we’ll loose the whole war. Betas of the future generation will be slaves to foids and they will be forced to work in sewers and land mines until they succumb to their deaths. The cost of evolution of mankind into a more intelligent and powerful species will be paid in our blood.

So there you have it!

Say what you will about this dumb theory, it’s still not as dumb as the flat earth theory, so at least the incels have that going for them.

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Viscaria
Viscaria
4 years ago

@Catalpa

Aren’t incels doomed to extinction by definition, anyway? If they’re truly incels, then they aren’t having any sex and therefore will not reproduce.

I hate to crawl into the mind of an incel (I’ve already had a shower today) but my best understanding is they believe they shouldn’t be doomed to celibacy in the first place. They reason that their incelification is a result of factors that only exist in this time of reduced social impacts for women who have sex outside of marriage (as compared to the US in the 1950s) and increased female financial independence (as compared to the US in the 1950s). Their wrists would have been too small to be lovable in any era, they believe, but at least they would have retained their God-given right to coerce a woman into a sexual relationship with them that she wanted no part of with the twin threats of poverty and social exclusion.

Therefore, the government doomed what is now the incel community when it stopped banishing women who had boinked one dude to the highest mountain to live with the goats. Plastic surgery would be the only way to combat the vicious anti-incel social forces that will end their lines. Since the government refuses to fund these necessary procedures, it proves that their anti-incel moves are not accidental, but part of a deliberate eugenics program.

Okay. Time to shower again.

Allandrel
Allandrel
4 years ago

Oh look, the misogynistic racist is also an anti-autistic bigot. How shocking.

I’m a 40-year-old straight white cis man, on the spectrum, had a girlfriend for a month in high school, went on three dates between 16 and 38, and did not lose my virginity until I was 38 – and that was a hookup, not a relationship. (She’s an awesome person.) I long to be married, but I doubt I ever will be.

By incel standards, I’m one of their “genetically inferior betas,” as no doubt they’d consider my kidney failure a sign of my inferior genetics. And yet I find everything these assholes say and do utterly loathsome.

Have I ever been angry because of rejection? Hell yes. Both at myself, and at the women who rejected me. But through this astonishing thing called empathy (and my budding feminism and Quakerism – those two are closely linked), I was able to deal with it in a healthy manner.

Jenora Feuer
Jenora Feuer
4 years ago

With the anti-vaxx screed in there, I’m wondering if this is one of those people who isn’t actually autistic but self-diagnoses as such because he believes that gives him an excuse for being anti-social. I’ve run into a few of those. From what I’ve heard, actual autistic people tend to really dislike them for the attempts blurring the definitions.

Naglfar
Naglfar
4 years ago

@Jenora Feuer

From what I’ve heard, actual autistic people tend to really dislike them for the attempts blurring the definitions.

I can only speak for myself, but as an autistic person I absolutely hate it when someone blames their failures on autism. It just furthers negative and incorrect stereotypes of autistic people and makes us all look bad. I’d imagine other autistic commenters here feel the same way as I do about this.

opposablethumbs
opposablethumbs
4 years ago

@Viscaria, yes, re the 1950s etc. – I’m sure you’ve captured the essence of their ‘reasoning’. That seems all too plausible!

personalpest
personalpest
4 years ago

@Naglfar:

I can only speak for myself, but as an autistic person I absolutely hate it when someone blames their failures on autism. It just furthers negative and incorrect stereotypes of autistic people and makes us all look bad. I’d imagine other autistic commenters here feel the same way as I do about this.

As someone who was officially diagnosed with Asperger’s Syndrome a decade ago, I certainly agree. Manospherians who claim to be autistic (whether they really are or not) are just using the condition as an excuse to be selfish, bigoted assholes.

Cyborgette
Cyborgette
4 years ago

As someone who got tagged as an autie and shunted into an abusive private school… Thirded. Abusive men who blame their abusiveness on autism are disgusting.

Ohlmann
Ohlmann
4 years ago

At that point, autistic is a cursed term in my opinion. When someone say it, you never know if it will be someone describing people who are slightly different, or 4chan drivel.

I also absolutely hate when it’s described as a super power. Almost alway, it’s just as much an insult as a praise, and it reinforce the idea that autistic are circus monsters. It also terribly cheapen the achievement of a bunch of people. Yeah, right, maybe Einstein was autistic, but regardless, he got a nobel prize because of his quality, neither because nor despite being different.

(for what it’s worth, I am not, albeit a lot of people have chalked to “autism” the fact I tend to actively hate peoples of all stripes. I guess for them anyone who dislike company is an autist ?)

Cyborgette
Cyborgette
4 years ago

BTW related, there’s a thing I was discussing earlier with a friend… Let me see if I can summarize it.

CN: this gets a bit personal again, but I promise it’s relevant…

I call this thing Joss Whedon Feminism, for lack of a better term. It’s a very cisheteronormative kind of pop feminism, where male insecurity and and misogyny are treated as intertwined to the point of not really being distinguished much. Sexist men are assumed to be those who are meek and shy and insecure in their masculinity; feminist ones are assumed to be confident, secure, dominant, and really good at protecting women. (And finding female partners, who they would presumably protect.)

If you don’t think this sounds very feminist, congrats, you win a prize! The problem IME is, for a while it seemed really hard to find anything else – the main alternative I got exposed to in the early 2010s was TERF/SWERFism, so for a long time I didn’t ID as feminist because I understand “feminism” to have no place for meek, feminine men.

Also IME, Cracked.com was a rich source of this kind of BS. When I first read Laurie Penny and saw them tear apart a sample of it from said website, I was almost disbelieving – I could barely wrap my head around someone else seeing the same problem, let alone having the words for it.

To this day I consider myself lucky, because I was extremely depressed at the time; finding feminist thinking that had a place for me (and continued to have a place for me as I transitioned) probably saved my life.

But anyway yeah to bring this back on topic, ^^^ this is why I’m super wary about connecting incels’ insecurity and self-hatred too directly with their vile misogyny. There is a connection, but there’s also IME a pop culture bias towards seeing misogyny as an Insecure Guy Problem, something that can be fixed by relaxing and gaining confidence and having more casual sex. Which (kind of obviously) plays right into MRA bullshit, and yeah it doesn’t surprise me that the MRA converts I’ve known started out as huge fans of Joss Whedon and similar pop-feminist creators.That Whedon himself turned out to be a serial abuser IMO just underscores how much bullshit this stuff is – and Black feminists were calling out his creepiness for years too, but we white people didn’t fucking listen because he was too much a fave.

TL;DR version: IMO pop- culture feminism as pushed by a lot of male feminists is uncomfortably close to MRA thinking, and also just super creepy and protectionist and paternalistic. And treating misogyny as mainly an insecurity problem is part and parcel of those tendencies. So yeah, don’t do that.

(And BTW dudes, if you pride yourself on your sexual conquests, sorry to say you’re still a misogynist. And a jerk. Even if you can quote bell hooks at me.)

Oh and sorry in advance if this is stuff covered a million times over by actual feminist scholars. I’m still a newbie with respect to all of this, don’t mind me too much!

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

Also IME, Cracked.com was a rich source of this kind of BS. When I first read Laurie Penny and saw them tear apart a sample of it from said website, I was almost disbelieving – I could barely wrap my head around someone else seeing the same problem, let alone having the words for it.

There’s some fun stuff on Cracked. Or there was. I haven’t read it in a while so I don’t know how it is lately. But there’s definitely been some misogyny apologia masquerading as anti-misogyny. There was more than one piece about how guys are misogynistic because girls didn’t date them in high school.

Cyborgette
Cyborgette
4 years ago

@WWTH

Yeah, the piece Penny tore into was a David Wong thing claiming that all breakthrough inventions were the result of men trying to impress women. I remember a lot of stuff along those lines around that time (ca. 2014 I think) – common themes tended towards “You should be more motivated at work,” “Your anger at injustice in the world is a turnoff to women,” “You should be more grateful and less sad in general,” etc. Really vapid and sexist stuff, but billed as Uncomfortable Truths, and designed to sound both Uncomfortable and Truthy.

As with basically every bit of sexist crap billed as Uncomfortable Truth, there was a lot of, “Your offense at this only serves to indicate how true it is.”

Lainy
Lainy
4 years ago

Rv97

Sometimes I tell my husband no to sex. Sometimes I’m not in the mood and I don’t want him to touch me ever for a kiss. Sometimes I don’t want to take my clothes off for him when we have a video chat. Sometimes i tell him no just because I don’t like the partner he wants to bring into our sex life. Sometimes I just like that particular woman, she makes me uncomfortable or I’m not attracted to her. I only allow my husband to touch me because his touch is the only touch that doesn’t physically hurt my skin with this pens and needles like feeling. I became extremely touch sensitive after my assault. None of that is your business and if you have any problem with any of that that’s your problem. I make him wait 11 months out of the year till he has sex because I want a monogamy relationship that sometimes evoles other sex partners but his commitment and relationship is towards and he won’t have anyone else unless I’m involve. That’s our sex life that has us and other consenting adults in it. And it none of your business. You can’t force people to have the type of sex life you seem appropriate. And you can’t force people to like sex or give others access to their bodies so stop worrying about who’s fucking who or who’s not fucking someone if it doesn’t involve you.

Viscaria
Viscaria
4 years ago

@rv97

Very well. Let David know he can ban me the next time I do this.

I’m sure David is already aware that he can ban anyone at any time for any reason he chooses. Rather than shifting the responsibility to David to keep your behaviour in check, I, at least, would definitely prefer if you would try to abide by the policies that exist for everyone here. You have the power to stay within the guidelines we have all been given.

Allandrel
Allandrel
4 years ago

Add me to the list of autistic people who loathe people who excuse their asshole behavior with self-diagnosed autism. They’re right up there with Sheldon Cooper in reinforcing stereotypes.

Naglfar
Naglfar
4 years ago

Re: Cracked
There is some funny stuff there, but there is a lot of BS and I generally end up falling down rabbit holes, so I try to avoid it.

@Cyborgette
I haven’t heard the term “Joss Whedon Feminism” before, but I know exactly what you are talking about. It reminds me of the men who pretend to be feminists just to get laid.

Regarding autism and stereotypes, I can pass for neurotypical most of the time, so I usually just don’t mention it. I’m not ashamed at all, but I know that people will have preconceived stereotypes and notions they will project and I prefer just to avoid that by not saying it, or at least waiting until they get to know me.

Mish of the Catlady Ascendancy

@Cyborgette

this is why I’m super wary about connecting incels’ insecurity and self-hatred too directly with their vile misogyny. There is a connection, but there’s also IME a pop culture bias towards seeing misogyny as an Insecure Guy Problem, something that can be fixed by relaxing and gaining confidence and having more casual sex. Which (kind of obviously) plays right into MRA bullshit

This is such an important point. It reminded me of David Sherratt – a former MRA turned leftie who’s fairly well-known in left Twitter circles (although he appears to be on one of his periodic breaks right now). This is the core of his beliefs about incels, and he’s obsessed with male loneliness and disadvantage. He claims that women have all the power in the dating arena, and honestly I think he still holds a lot of MRA/MGTOW ideas.

Naglfar
Naglfar
4 years ago

@Mish

I think he still holds a lot of MRA/MGTOW ideas.

I’m not familiar with him, but from your description it sounds like that’s the case. I find that a lot of people who claim to be “former” incels/MRAs/white supremacists never fully give up the views they had at the time, they just manage to mask it in a veneer. Of course, some people can move on and leave the past behind, but a lot struggle with it.

Mish of the Catlady Ascendancy

@Naglfar, exhibits A and B (he’s usually less blatant than this, and these tweets did get a lot of pushback. He’s still really popular though, for some reason)

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Naglfar
Naglfar
4 years ago

@Mish
I think those leave little doubt as to him being an MRA/MGTOW.

Mish of the Catlady Ascendancy

@Naglfar

You’d think so, yeah.

Crip Dyke
4 years ago

@Naglfar:

I haven’t heard the term “Joss Whedon Feminism” before, but I know exactly what you are talking about. It reminds me of the men who pretend to be feminists just to get laid.

I’ve got a theory. It could be witches, some evil witches!

…Which is ridiculous ’cause witches they were persecuted. Wicca good and love the earth and women power and I’ll be over here.

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

It really annoys me that men whine about how they’re expected to make the first move, yet when women make the first move, they hate it. Any woman making the first move must be either a slut, desperate and pathetic, or have an agenda.

rv97
rv97
4 years ago

I’m talking about pastors and people of a religious community, or even pro-JBP/pro-Molyneaux fuckers insisting people stay celibate until marriage and fuck only to make babies, or even trying to make it the law of the land as is the case in a few countries.

I’m sorry, but ever since that conversation in August, I’ve not felt consoled in that matter. What should I do if I have to be stuck in a community whose faith considers even masturbation a sin? I do plan to leave said community but my efforts can be in vain. Even if I were successful in doing so, those ideas still have influence.

Cyborgette
Cyborgette
4 years ago

@Mish

Wow that is a really gross take by Sherratt. So gross. Wow.

“It’s reality” argh. Gods I really, really hate the way misogynists bill their crap as Uncomfortable Truth, that makes it super hard to argue against even when it’s patently false.

Anyway yeah he sounds a lot like what I’m talking about. Much creepy, ugh.

@Naglfar

Yeah I come up with a lot of weird terminology because I’m relatively illiterate as far as theory; people who actually Know Feminism probably have better words for these things. But the flip side of names having power is that no name means no power, so I find it helpful to have provisional names to stick on things.

@WWTH

Ugh yes same. All the more so having seen it “from both sides”.

A. Noyd
A. Noyd
4 years ago

I’m not autistic myself, but I share some characteristics with folks on the spectrum (like executive dysfunction and a sensory processing disorder). I do teach a number of autistic kids, though. They’re all very different individuals, but every single one of them tries so hard to get along with their peers. Every. Single. One.

Also, one of the autistic kids at my last school was bullied. He ended up having a meltdown one day because of it, out of sight of the teachers. One of the misfit girls in his class stayed with him to help him through it even though it meant both of them got in trouble for missing their following homeroom class.