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MGTOWs write virtual love letters to their Fleshlights: “Who knew $60 could replace a woman completely?”

MGTOWs do love them some Fleshlights

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By David Futrelle

So-called Men Going Their Own Way are some of the most ignorant motherfuckers on the entire planet. But they do have a certain expertise in a small number of areas — whining, cooking inedible food in great quantities, and of course the fine art of fucking inanimate objects.

Yep, MGTOWs sure do love the Fleshlight — the silicone vagina-simulator that comes inside a plastic shell that looks a bit like the world’s largest flashlight — and aren’t shy about proclaiming this love to the world, at least in the virtual safe spaces MGTOWs have carved out for themselves online.

“[I] fully believe my fleshlight saved my life. by creating an experience in masturbation that was as good as real sex,” wrote TheTruthSetYouFree in the MGTOW subreddit.

“Who knew $60 could replace a woman completely,” he added in another r/MGTOW thread.

Thank you modern silky smooth stretchable plastics. I was released from my hormonal illusions. For a while I still wanted women. I still dated. But sex had 0% power over me. What I saw shocked me. Women literally have nothing else to offer.

“When men en mass value sex dolls, VR, and fleshlights over a woman, it’s game over for the female species,” gloated Gutsybukel, another MGTOW Redditor, arguing (in a separate comment) that

Women are always thinking about themselves and what is there to be gained on their behalf. By men having fleshlights and sex dolls, [women] lose their power and become null and void.

A woman, argued MGTOW Redditor DangZagnut, is essentially

a fleshlight that complains a lot. I can buy a fleshlight for the cost of one date. Except the fleshlight is superior in the sense that it doesn’t have the inherent liabilities as a relationship does.

Over on the MGTOW.com forums, the sentiments are similar.

A Fleshlight, snorts a MGTOW called Boar, is

[a] one-time investment that I don’t have to keep ‘hhaaappppyyyyyy’ or worry about its collision with the Wall and subsequent lunacy.

Oh, and it can’t f~~~in’ tweet!

“We’re getting married next month,” another commenter joked about his Fleshlight. “You’re all invited.”

“[F]leshlights are better than women in every way.” enthused a MGTOW by the name of Anthony.

Now only if they made a version where it would make me a sandwhich afterwards and they’ll be perfect.

That said, not all MGTOWs are quite so fervent in their Fleshlight fanhood. Some prefer vagina-simulators from other brands. Some, as one MGTOW.com commenter put it, “[p]refer to use a human female body to masturbate with.” Then there’s the MGTOW Redditor who insists that his own particular dick is just too big for a Fleshlight to handle.

There’s also a small contingent of men who prefer to craft their own Fleshlight-equivalents. Some keep it all-natural, and simply carve out the inside of a cucumber. Others are willing to devote more time to fashion something a little more sophisticated.

“A vagina is essentially a blind pouch,” explained hmskl’d on MGTOW.com.

It is a muscular walled canal with a soft flexible lining that provides lubrication and sensation. …

It is so simple in design that it can be reproduced by any beginning anatomy student over a weekend in a homeschool science project using nothing more than some kitchen wrap, aloe containing lotion and some cotton and foam pillow stuffing. I mean the engineering of this is so basic that it only takes simple pressure tweaks and twirly twists in design to actually improve on the sensation. If done fairly correctly .. it will likely produce a “holy-moly” result.

Holy Moly indeed. I think we have at last found a MGTOW who is really and truly Going His Own Way.

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Travis
Travis
8 months ago

Tim,

Of course. He is a recent immigrant (with an accent), no less, not some second generation Polish American like Meathead Stivic or something.

The thing is, that blog is so preposterously racist, and so incredibly willing to ignore evidence that contradicts its meme (there are tons of pictures of Taylor Swift in happy skin-to-skin contact with black men), that it is the perfect target blog for David Futrelle to make a mockery of.

A lot of former Heartiste commenters have taken roost there. The most racist ones in particular.

Cat Mara
Cat Mara
8 months ago

@Dalillama:

Under the old Brehon legal system, a woman whose husband didn’t perform his duties in the bedroom was legally entitled to take a lover, and her husband legally required to treat her children as his own.

It wasn’t just children conceived in his household: it was the custom for any unmarried woman who found herself pregnant to name the local chief as the father. Apparently, the chiefs were cool with this because it made them out to be total alpha Chads 😀, plus the kid would be raised in the chief’s family (or, more likely, fostered out)

There was no distinction between children conceived in and out of wedlock in Brehon Law when it came to the distribution of an inheritance. This was one of the things the Anglo-Normans found particularly odious (apart from, you know, mostly fining criminals instead of imprisoning and/or mutilating them)– not only did these “barbarians” not pass authority from father to son like decent people, they let bastards inherit! Degenerates!

In fact, the only mention of homosexuality in that code held that if a man was too busy with his boyfriend(s) to satisfy his wife, she could seek divorce on that account.

Under Brehon Law, a woman’s testimony was not normally acceptable in court, except on one occasion: if a husband refused to grant a divorce, the woman could take him to court and spill all the tea about him and his marital failings in front of the judges. I wonder how many guys dared to go through with that! In any case, when a woman left, she took her personal property and her dowry back.

It’s sometimes spun in Ireland that Brehon Law was somehow very liberal and enlightened because of stuff like this– in many ways it was extremely inequitable– but it was relentlessly pragmatic and designed for a sparsely populated country in which there was no centralised authority to speak of (the notion that there was a High King at Tara who exercised sovereignty over the entire island was a pleasant fantasy of mediaeval historians mooning about the Good Old Days™ before those awful Sasanachs showed up). The only institution a person could count on for protection was their own family (their immediate family and larger kin-group) so families had to work. There was no point in prolonging a marriage that one or both partners wanted out of; indeed, it was downright detrimental to the social fabric. Trial marriages were a thing too– get married for a year and make sure you can stand one another before committing to the long haul. Some historians estimate that the bulk of Irish people only contracted Brehon marriages until as late as the eighteenth century and never bothered having their unions validated by the Church, which makes me laugh when right-wing Catholics start bleating about “traditional marriage” in this country. In fact, the performative “family values” of the conservative Christian set make me laugh generally: they can only maintain a façade of same because of the modern social safety net. My ancestors had to live their “family values” and were far more realistic about it as a result.

Sorry, ranting now. For anyone interested in this stuff, I’d recommend Fergus Kelly’s A Guide To Early Irish Law. It’s horribly expensive (a result of it being a short-print-run book by an academic outfit) but your library might be able to snag a copy on Inter-Library Loan.

Dalillama
Dalillama
8 months ago

Trial marriages were a thing too– get married for a year and make sure you can stand one another before committing to the long haul

The basis of one of my absolute favorite stories from Irish history. It seems that Grainne ní Mhaille contracted such a trial union with Risdeárd an Iarainn Bourke, and moved with him into his fortress tower at Rockfleet. Some months into the marriage, Bourke went off to do some administrative duties on his lands. When he came back, he found Rockfleet was full of Grainne’s retainers who won’t let him in. And here’s Grainne herself, shouting down from the window “Risdeárd Bourke, I divorce thee! And I’m keeping the castle!” And she did.

IronCthulhu
IronCthulhu
8 months ago

@Demonhype

We’ll set up a fund to ensure there is an artificial vagina for every MRA, MGTOW, etc penis, and I think you would be surprised at how many evil feminists would be eagerly donating to it!

It’s really just sour grapes with these guys, and all women know it. But give the tech another ~20 to mature. Whether it’s VR or sex robots, men really will be just as happy with that as they would be in a relationship. But I doubt that feminists will be as relieved as you think they will.

If a large number of unwanted men just walk away from the table and stop trying altogether, the remaining men will realize they don’t have to try as hard any more. And women will have to compete over the remaining men unless you’re into polyamory.

Naglfar
Naglfar
8 months ago

@MeltedCthulhu

If a large number of unwanted men just walk away from the table and stop trying altogether, the remaining men will realize they don’t have to try as hard any more. And women will have to compete over the remaining men unless you’re into polyamory.

LOL

I mean, do you seriously think this is what will happen? MRAs and MGTOW are a tiny fraction of the population, and I don’t think any feminists were going after them anyway. Really, the only major effect would be that we wouldn’t keep getting hit on by annoying men we don’t want to date. The only men I or any other feminist would want to date are not the ones who would be walking away. So no, there will not be increased competition for men.

kupo
kupo
8 months ago

Whether it’s VR or sex robots, men really will be just as happy with that as they would be in a relationship.

I’d be much happier* single than with a man like that, anyway, so it’s really a win-win.

*I mean, even studies show this. It’s scientific fact.

Ohlmann
Ohlmann
8 months ago

I can’t see why VR or sex robots would compete with real human for relationship.

Also, if a large number of men stop trying to get relationship to concentrate on thoses toys, roughly as many women will do that too. Men and women behave in much of the same way after all.

IronCthulhu
IronCthulhu
8 months ago

@Naglfar

MRAs and MGTOW are a tiny fraction of the population, and I don’t think any feminists were going after them anyway.

I’m not talking about MRAs & MGTOW. Even if they were all misogynists (they’re not, just like how feminists don’t all hate men), being a misogynist isn’t the only reason for not being able to find a partner. Looks, mental health issues, emotional trauma, can all be reasons for lack of a romantic partner.

Then there are men who could get a partner but who will opt for the convenience of technology instead. It’s not just going to be cheeto-encrusted neckbeards.

@Ohlmann

I can’t see why VR or sex robots would compete with real human for relationship.

Assuming we’re talking about someone who has options. These products are being marketed towards people who feel that they don’t. It could also be for people who want a break from relationships or who even want to use it as a way of spicing up a relationship.

Also, if a large number of men stop trying to get relationship to concentrate on thoses toys, roughly as many women will do that too.

Or they’ll just share the remaining men among themselves in a hookup culture, unless these men start raising the bar too high for a large chunk of the female population.

Ohlmann
Ohlmann
8 months ago

@IronCthulhu : I mean, I am all in favor of soldiers getting that instead of prostitute, but that don’t prevent them from also getting a wive. Same thing for submariners and more generally sailors. So, just like the bottom two, it really isn’t in competition.

Also, I know of roughly the same number of men and women who don’t currently try to get into a relation for whatever reason. In both case, generally speaking it’s because [the other gender] are clearly all asshole. Really no gender difference here.

Funnily enough, while the number are too small to do statistics on that, it seem to apply to homosexuals just as well as to heterosexuals. I guess that humans in general are assholes.

Cat Mara
Cat Mara
8 months ago

Heh, I imagine that even if sex robots became A Thing, a significant proportion of the guys who’d end up buying them wouldn’t even use them: they’d form clubs and stuff to obsess endlessly over them.

Sexbotter A: Oh, you’re still using the old phthalate-free integument? I find the new metamaterials far more realistic.
Sexbotter B (determined not to be upstaged): Well, you know, I was going for a more retro vibe…

(I have a friend from university who was– is– a keen scuba diver. When his kids started being born, his opportunities to dive became more limited, so it used to infuriate him when he was able to get away for a few precious hours that many diving club members were far more interested in attending on the pier all afternoon stroking their chins and opining on the finer parts of diving technique and equipment than, you know, actually diving. It goes without saying that nearly all these types were men seeking to impress others with their supposed erudition and the ridiculous amounts of money they were spending on equipment for their hobby 🙄)

Naglfar
Naglfar
8 months ago

@TwistedCthulhu

Even if they were all misogynists (they’re not, just like how feminists don’t all hate men)

False equivalency. Not only has it been repeatedly shown that the vast majority of feminists do not hate men but have more positive attitudes towards men than non-feminists, but the thing is that feminism is an actual human rights movement. MRA and MGTOW are reactionary backlashes that don’t help anyone. By definition, these movements are misogynistic and their members are misogynists.

Then there are men who could get a partner but who will opt for the convenience of technology instead. It’s not just going to be cheeto-encrusted neckbeards.

There already are men who could get partners but aren’t actively seeking them. Net result of technology still = no noticeable change.
When pornography began to gain popularity, conservatives made apocalyptic predictions about it ruining society. That has yet to come true. I imagine the same will be true of sexbots if and when they become a thing.

@Ohlmann

I guess that humans in general are assholes.

Probably true.

@Cat Mara

a significant proportion of the guys who’d end up buying them wouldn’t even use them: they’d form clubs and stuff to obsess endlessly over them.

Oh, for sure. That’s what seems to have happened with the MGTOWs and their fleshlights (and pillowcases full of aloe).

Crip Dyke
8 months ago

And women will have to compete over the remaining men

lol

The regressives just can’t stop assuming that we are all compelled by biology.

We don’t **have to** do anything. If we don’t want to date you, we just won’t date you. The fact that there are other people we do not want to date who have declared themselves married to their fuckdolls doesn’t enter into it.

Weird how that works, free will and all.

Ohlmann
Ohlmann
8 months ago

Something that the topic of sexbot inspire me is that, as an alternative to the classic turing test, I would say that if an Artificial Intelligence is competent enough to make me want to integrate it to my family (as a significant other or as an adopted children), then that AI is A – sentient and B – entitled to be considered (and protected) as a full person in the society at large.

IronCthulhu
IronCthulhu
8 months ago

@Naglfar

There already are men who could get partners but aren’t actively seeking them. Net result of technology still = no noticeable change.

I never said men who could but don’t. I said men who could but who opt for the convenience of technology instead.

When pornography began to gain popularity, conservatives made apocalyptic predictions about it ruining society. That has yet to come true.

Depends on what predictions you’re talking about. I wouldn’t be surprised if there are lots of negative consequences that we’ve simply adapted to, like the boiling frog in the pot.

I imagine the same will be true of sexbots if and when they become a thing.

One of my less dystopic predictions about sex tech is that it will culminate in a kind of sexual egalitarianism. I mentioned earlier about the Striking Vipers episode of Black Mirror.

If this became the way people had sex in the future, where you could enter a virtual world with any physical appearance you wanted, your looks would effectively no longer be a factor. Neither would gender. Or even personality when I think about it.

In an online world where you’re connected to literally billions of people, you couldn’t even be a big enough asshole on purpose to not be a match for somebody. And if you were, you could simply pair up with an AI-driven character or something.

@Crip Dyke

The regressives just can’t stop assuming that we are all compelled by biology.

If you’re immune to your biology then more power to you.

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

I see we’re having a merry trollmas in here.

It’s real cute that MGTOW think that sexbots will provide all the sex and compliments of a girlfriend without the man having to put in any time, energy or money. Technology is plenty time and energy consuming. A robot that can pass as a human is going to cost a lot just up front. Then there’s the cost of keeping it powered, maintainence and repairs, cleaning, etc. A lot more money than springing for dinner on Valentine’s day. And you know men are going to race to compete with each other over who has the newest, hottest, most high tech bot. You all going to wind up replacing them every few years.

But, sure. Keep on with the fantasy that men will leave us en masse for sexbots and we’ll finally be sorry we didn’t want to turn ourselves into subservient wives for misogynists. The sexbot revolution has been predicted and not come more times than the rapture at this point.

Naglfar
Naglfar
8 months ago

@AluminumFoilCthulhu

If you’re immune to your biology then more power to you.

We all are “immune to biology” the way you define it. Part of what separates humans from many simpler animals is that we have the ability to control our own actions and aren’t simply motivated by primal drives. Freud was disproven decades ago. Plus, biology doesn’t work that way anyway. We are all very much still bound by biology in what is does mean, such as that we are all mortal and carbon-based life forms.

If this became the way people had sex in the future, where you could enter a virtual world with any physical appearance you wanted, your looks would effectively no longer be a factor.

Looks are for the most part not a factor. People of all appearances can find partners, regardless of what the incels tell you. But hey, if technology makes sex better, I don’t really think that’s a problem. In such a future I’d be far more worried about the same technology things I worry about today; that is, massive corporations controlling our data.

Naglfar
Naglfar
8 months ago

@WWTH

A robot that can pass as a human is going to cost a lot just up front.

If one even can. The only sexbots I’ve seen for sale are creepy and would not fool most people into thinking they’re humans.

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

Yeah, I’d probably prefer VR sex to robot sex because the uncanny valley effect is too much for me. But I just can’t see VR sex ever feeling like more than high tech masturbation as opposed to something that can replace a relationship.

Tohka
Tohka
8 months ago

When men en mass value sex dolls, VR, and fleshlights over a woman, it’s game over for the female species,” gloated Gutsybukel, another MGTOW Redditor, arguing (in a separate comment) that

Women are always thinking about themselves and what is there to be gained on their behalf. By men having fleshlights and sex dolls, [women] lose their power and become null and void.

The female species? Seriously? I know these men are young but they ignore biology so blantantly.

This whole mentality of wishing for a genocide of half of the human species because women are human beings with rights and autonomy is incredibly alarming. I don’t see mgtow surviving much long the more their narrative turns away from “just men living their best lives” and into “sex toys will eliminate women from the world for good!!!!” Alot of spaces online are being wiped clean because of their hate speech and call to violence. I do hope they’re next on reddits chopping block and that they’re being watched on some sites. I know they branched into r/mgtow2 where they wanted to seperate from all the misogyny but even then it’s still has posts like ‘what use is a woman’ etc. Mgtow is conditional. They know it. It has never been about general self improvement but to whine at women in general at the door before they leave. And they want to rag every man down to their miserable level. If women were to drop everything, relinquish our rights and become chained to a stove, they’ll happily jump on board again. They want sex slaves. It’s pathetic and I’m disturbed that they continue their rethoric of wishing for our genocide as if it’s nothing.

Also they completely ignore normal men and women who want families? The entire LGBT community? Or the fact that sex toys like sex dolls, regardless of their advancements, will just stay in the realm of porn?

Ohlmann
Ohlmann
8 months ago

@Naglfar : while most of the time, and in particular for relationship, primal instinct are more of a polite list of suggestions in the back of your brain, sometime it … isn’t a polite suggestion. I don’t say that at all with painful memories of having to seek a neighbor to get rid of something I have phobia for.

Now, is there *anyone* who feel compelled so strongly to find a mate that they lose all reasons and switch to reptilien brain ? I very highly doubt it. And it’s not the attitude of the MRA bozo that will convince me of that.

Ohlmann
Ohlmann
8 months ago

@tohka : why would sex dolls stay in the realm of porn ? I mean, apart from the fact it’s deep into science fiction and that it can cause a lot of ethic problems, an artificial companion would have a lot of use. Helping spacionauts staying sane for year-long missions, like Mars mission, for example, without inflating the count of actual human too much.

Sex functions would be quite secondary to thoses artificial intelligent, that being said. Then again, in a relationship, sex is often secondary.

Naglfar
Naglfar
8 months ago

@Ohlmann

Now, is there *anyone* who feel compelled so strongly to find a mate that they lose all reasons and switch to reptilien brain ? I very highly doubt it. And it’s not the attitude of the MRA bozo that will convince me of that.

That’s closer to what I meant. I know people can have phobias and I don’t mean to hurt those with phobias at all. I have some of my own. What I meant is that people don’t have the uncontrollable need to reproduce that some manospherians think we do.

Tohka
Tohka
8 months ago

@OhlMann
Oh it’s my belief just purely based from what is seen already with other sex toys. In porn, it’s a common tool that alot of people find pleasure in and outside of it, it’s something personal you keep inside the bedroom and.. online lol (but with how the climate of politics is shifting towards becoming much more conservative than in past due to alot of conservative younger gens, openly discussing anything with sex and sex toys could shift dramatically too.. ) . I haven’t experienced anyone un ironically consider their sex toys as partners in public which is what alot of mgtows hope to change in lieu of replacing half of the human species right now. It’s disturbing. I can’t imagine having the energy to wish for millions of deaths based on their sex alone

I can see what you’re saying about space flights but like you said, it’s Sci fi right now. I kinda hope we fix our own environmental issues first before we go off into another..

Naglfar
Naglfar
8 months ago

@Tohka

I can’t imagine having the energy to wish for millions of deaths based on their sex alone

It’s probably a good thing that you can’t do that. It means you’re not a monster like them.

Tohka
Tohka
8 months ago

@Naglfar
Yup!
I’m sorry it’s not on topic but I love your dog in your picture so much lol

IronCthulhu
IronCthulhu
8 months ago

@weirwoodtreehugger

Yeah, I’d probably prefer VR sex to robot sex because the uncanny valley effect is too much for me.

I get it. Automatonophobia. It’s why I couldn’t imagine wanting to own one. I’d be afraid of it sitting up in bed and stealing my soul while I slept.

But I just can’t see VR sex ever feeling like more than high tech masturbation as opposed to something that can replace a relationship.

But people will also have VR sex with each other, not just with Lara Croft.

@Tohka

This whole mentality of wishing for a genocide of half of the human species because women are human beings with rights and autonomy is incredibly alarming.

You’re incredibly melodramatic. Extrapolating genocide from the sort of crass talk that some people like using on the Internet? Take a chill-pill. Nobody wants to genocide your species.

@Naglfar

We all are “immune to biology” the way you define it.

Then why do otherwise heterosexual men and women start playing for the other team when they’ve been in prison long enough? Yes, consensual sex does happen in prison. Not all of them do this, but even among the ones who don’t you can be sure that some of them damn well considered it. Even the fucking pirates went gay.

I guess that’s another possibility. If men turn to virtual reality & sex robots there could be an uptick in lesbian relationships. That could be good news or bad news depending on who you’re asking.

Biology isn’t everything, but it’s there and it’s a factor and it will effect the behaviors and choices of lots of people. That doesn’t mean they will abandon all rationality and free will and revert to their reptilian brain or something. That’s black-white thinking.

But hey, if technology makes sex better, I don’t really think that’s a problem. In such a future I’d be far more worried about the same technology things I worry about today; that is, massive corporations controlling our data.

I ain’t. Decentralized & powered by the blockchain, baby! That’s the Internet of the future. One of the driving forces behind its early adoption is the desire to escape de-platforming & censorship, something you lefty progressives are very zealous about doing to anyone you disagree with. Without knowing it you are forcing the evolution of a better Internet. You are doing the world a favor, just not in the way you imagine. I’ve literally considered pretending to be a lefty progressive for that very reason.

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

blockchain, baby!

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LindsayIrene
LindsayIrene
8 months ago

Sexbots are gross, but given how much of my life I’ve spent playing Sims, I think I could really get into VR, and not just for sexual reasons.

IronCthulhu
IronCthulhu
8 months ago

@LindsayIrene

I can’t wait for the Internet to basically become The Matrix. With brain-machine interface you could have instant transfer of vast fields of knowledge that would normally take a lifetime to accumulate. The future is going to be interesting.

kupo
kupo
8 months ago

@IronCthulhu
I mean, none of that’s actually going to happen and you don’t seem to know much about how either brains or electronics work, but cool, I guess.

Nequam
Nequam
8 months ago

Is there a reason you all feel obliged to spend Christmas giving a troll virtual handjobs?

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

Batting around trolls is harmless fun considering they get banned if they go out of line.

Any particular reason you needed to get judgmental and any particular reason you felt the need to compare a fairly mild interaction to a sex act?

Demonhype
8 months ago

@Ironcthulu

I don’t think you were reading everything i wrote. I said that women would be relieved if the guys who refuse to stop harassing women who have made it clear theater interested and/or only see sexual value and nothing else in women would just go for an artificial vagina. You’ll notice that’s not all guys, not even most–i know lots of guys who prefer human companionship to an obedient hole that never disagrees with them, and plenty guys who have the decency to not hound a woman who is clearly uninterested in them. Believe me, stalking and being dehumanized don’t magically become acceptable, much less attractive, just because there are fewer men around, and most of us girls have no problem staying single if that’s the only option.

And that whenev robot wives are cheap and plentiful, so will robot husbands, and considering women have been simulating artificial dicks as long or longer than men have–seeing as how phallic objects are easier to produce, often exist in nature and require little to no special alteration–and engaging in just as many fantasies about ideal lovers as men–the idea that there wouldn’t be a market for an anatomical Prince Charming (or irl choose-your-own-Twilight-hunk robot) and women will all just regretfully “compete” for the remaining men and wish they’d been more open and appreciative to being stalked and dehumanized and judges by guys who didn’t have all that much going for them themselves is a straight-up MRA fantasy.

And don’t forget, ladies tend to be more open to bisexuality and experimentation than men,in my experience, and sexuality is fluid. (I’m a bi woman myself). Maybe the surplus ladies will just pair off and live happily ever after, rather than drop their standards deep down to negative numbers and learn to like being treated like an ambulatory dick receptacle and having their own thoughts and desires dismissed. There’s a lot of ways this kind of thing could go, and technically “men will become scarce and women will wring their hands, knash their teeth, and curse the day they turned down that schlubby mouth-breathing jackass at the bus stop for the hundred and thirty-seventh time” is the least likely scenario.

Ohlmann
Ohlmann
8 months ago

Note that he still did not explain why robot partner would be more used by men than by women. He probably have no good answers for that.

Moon Custafer
Moon Custafer
8 months ago

Is there a reason you all feel obliged to spend Christmas giving a troll virtual handjobs?

21st-century equivalent of playing Monopoly-the-Board-Game with relatives?

IronCthulhu
IronCthulhu
8 months ago

@kupo

I mean, none of that’s actually going to happen and you don’t seem to know much about how either brains or electronics work, but cool, I guess.

I didn’t say it was happening tomorrow. The rudimentary technology is still only in the laboratory. But a guy can dream.

@Ohlmann

Note that he still did not explain why robot partner would be more used by men than by women. He probably have no good answers for that.

Why are mostly men the early adopters for sex dolls/robots rather than both men and women in roughly equal numbers? Sex doll companies know who their customer demographic is. Sex doll brothels know who their clientele is.

Once it becomes more socially accepted I expect that there will be an uptick in the number of women who use them too, but I see no reason to believe they will ever be more than a small secondary market. You really think sex doll manufacturers are ignoring women and just don’t want women’s money or something, and that’s why they barely make any male sex dolls?

The interest doesn’t seem to be there. Not on anywhere near the same level as it is for men anyway. For sex toys, yes. For dolls & robots not so much.

@Demonhype

I said that women would be relieved if the guys who refuse to stop harassing women who have made it clear theater interested and/or only see sexual value and nothing else in women would just go for an artificial vagina

Okay fine. Those particular men. Mr Cheeto Breath Neckbeard who’s giving you the Charles Manson stare. You’d be happy for him to just go get himself a Stepford wife and leave you alone.

But that whole StacySmartyPants thing of:

*unless* he’s tall, has a handsome face with chiseled features and dark hair and eyes and an athletic muscular ripped body that I can see, is smart, kind and compliant and does what I tell him but without being a wimp about it and still being masculine…

Yadda yadda yadda yadda… That’s not going to be a thing any more unless she’s actually the pick of the litter herself. She’ll have to be in order to expect all that. Women who want to limit themselves to that segment of the male population are going to feel the squeeze.

the idea that there wouldn’t be a market for an anatomical Prince Charming and women will all just regretfully “compete” for the remaining men is a straight-up MRA fantasy.

Some women will buy sex dolls & robots. I already responded to Ohlmann about that.

Maybe the surplus ladies will just pair off and live happily ever after, rather than drop their standards deep down to negative numbers and learn to like being treated like an ambulatory dick receptacle and having their own thoughts and desires dismissed.

Lesbianism is also pretty likely in a scenario of male scarcity. Plus they will drop their standards, just not to negative numbers. More like “okay & average” numbers as opposed to Chad Thundercock numbers.

Naglfar
Naglfar
8 months ago

@ManganeseCthulhu

But a guy can dream.

MGTOWs have been predicting the sexbotpocalypse for years, and it has yet to show any signs of materializing. Dream on.

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

IronCthulu,

Look around you. Plenty of average looking men are already partnered. One internet comment from a woman who only wants a conventionally attractive partner isn’t data.

cornychips
cornychips
8 months ago

C-fuckyou says:

I’m not talking about MRAs & MGTOW. Even if they were all misogynists (they’re not, just like how feminists don’t all hate men)…

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!

Finding a self-proclaimed MGTOW that wasn’t a misogynist is rarer than finding hen’s teeth. Bruh, who do you think your are fooling?

IronCthulhu
IronCthulhu
8 months ago

@Nequam

Is there a reason you all feel obliged to spend Christmas giving a troll virtual handjobs?

More like virtual ball torture TBH

kupo
kupo
8 months ago

@Nequam

Is there a reason you all feel obliged to spend Christmas giving a troll virtual handjobs?

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Excuse me? Is there a reason you felt obliged to spend Christmas making extremely inappropriate, over-the-line comments on perfectly normal behavior for this blog? Did that make you feel better?

Cyborgette
Cyborgette
8 months ago

Oh look, @IronCthulhu is both an MRA and a Singularity cultist. How tiresomely predictable.

You’re incredibly melodramatic. Extrapolating genocide from the sort of crass talk that some people like using on the Internet? Take a chill-pill. Nobody wants to genocide your species.

IDK, what would you call thousands of years of systematic rape and enslavement? Centuries of medical abuse? Decades of icepick lobotomies and cognition-killing drugs? If it’s not genocide, it’s certainly systematic subjugation. You damn well bet we resent it, and look at any new technology with an eye to how it could be used to control us; at this point we’d be foolish not to.

BTW, congrats on apparently learning everything you know about biology from Jimmy Neutron.

I ain’t. Decentralized & powered by the blockchain, baby! That’s the Internet of the future. One of the driving forces behind its early adoption is the desire to escape de-platforming & censorship, something you lefty progressives are very zealous about doing to anyone you disagree with. Without knowing it you are forcing the evolution of a better Internet. You are doing the world a favor, just not in the way you imagine. I’ve literally considered pretending to be a lefty progressive for that very reason.

You know even less about computers than about biology, don’t you.

Catalpa
Catalpa
8 months ago

There’s already a segment of the population with no desire or drive to become partnered (aroace represent!) and we haven’t caused society to collapse. I doubt that an increase in the number of people who don’t want partners will impact society very much at all. If AI technology becomes advanced enough to replace human companionship, then there’s no reason that wouldn’t also apply to companionship for women as well as men. And as for the sex replacement aspect, women who enjoy penetration have had options for a facsimile of that for literally thousands of years. I’d expect that approximately the same proportion of both the male and female population would choose a virtual partner, leaving the scales relatively balanced for the folks who definitely want a human.

Crip Dyke
8 months ago

Ich

women will have to compete over the remaining men!

also Ich

Some women will buy sex dolls & robots. …
Lesbianism is also pretty likely in a scenario of male scarcity.

Me:

We don’t have to. Free will exists.

Ich:

Then why do otherwise heterosexual men and women start playing for the other team when they’ve been in prison long enough? Yes, consensual sex does happen in prison.

Me: ???

Isn’t consensual sex the opposite of compelled sex? Or have you not figured out what rape is yet?

Ich:

Biology isn’t everything, but it’s there and it’s a factor and it will effect the behaviors and choices of lots of people. That doesn’t mean they will abandon all rationality and free will and revert to their reptilian brain or something. That’s black-white thinking.

Me:

Wait, what? Biology won’t compel women to do anything, b/c people won’t abandon all rationality and free will?

Don’t look now, but I think that the person you’re arguing against is … Iron Cthulhu. But don’t let that hold you back! That black/white thinking asshole definitely deserves your contempt.

Allandrel
Allandrel
8 months ago

Okay, now that IC has outed himself a a singularity cultist, what is the probability that he takes the fractal idiocy that is Roko’s Basilisk seriously?

K-2SO voice: It’s high.

opposablethumbs
opposablethumbs
8 months ago

IrCsome is a daftie.

First he takes it for granted that most men have no desire for a relationship with a human being and would actually prefer a sort of robo-slave-fleshlight (if one were to exist, and they could afford it). Assumes facts not in evidence; where are your figures, IrC, your vast cohorts, where are the studies to support your hypothesis? After all, in many societies it’s no longer socially demanded to marry/couple up (socially encouraged, perhaps, but not as strongly demanded as even a mere hundred years ago – and this has been the case for men for far longer than it has for women), so even while the tech of your imagining is in its infancy you should be able to drum up some solid evidence.

But then he also fails to note that in the case of any such men, as several people have pointed out above, women would be very much better off and happier without their ‘attentions’. Más vale sola que mal acompañada, as one might say.