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Women are only attracted to men who retain their semen, man who retains his semen declares

Dude must be filled to the brim with semen

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By David Futrelle

It’s nearly Christmas, and so I’ve decided to give myself an early present by giving in to my strange fascination with the Semen Retention subreddit, again.

Today, some thoughts on “female attraction” and how women aren’t really attracted to any man who isn’t diligently not-fapping, according to a dude who diligently doesn’t fap or, apparently, ever spill his seed in any context.

Female Attraction is mostly nonexistent outside of Semen Retention (self.Semenretention)

submitted 5 days ago by randomfamilydude

The reason why women don't chase men, or why only guys with insane amounts of money, status or social status have girls (and they always have) is because of ejaculation. And even those guys are not REALLY attracting women. They are just "sabotaging" the female instinct for protection and social attention, but the female attraction is not even that strong and eventually makes women unsatisfied.

You are NOT attracting women on a truly spiritual and animal level if you ejaculate, period. Even billionaires, even bad boys, even social butterflies or extreme alpha males, sure they can take women to bed, but the attraction, the REAL attraction is not there.

Masturbation and ejaculation are not natural. If you ejaculate to do anything other than procreating you're a zombie, no matter how much status or women you have.

Your PMO addicted alpha friend who is banging chicks is not even really attracting them. The female feels a small amount of magnetism towards them because of status but it never reaches the natural level, and eventually it just fades away.

No wonder women are unsatisfied and depressed, and men are killing themselves. Semen retention is everything. Semen is the fluid of gods.

Women attraction is useless if it isn't used as a tool to maintain a woman to procreate, so forget it as a "benefit", and look at it as the natural condition.

So there you have it.

This dude’s post got dozens of upvotes on the SR subreddit, because of course it did.

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Naglfar
Naglfar
4 years ago

Masturbation and ejaculation are not natural

Umm…if ejaculation is not natural, then how would babby formed? These semen retainers don’t seem to know much about the birds and the bees.

Also IIRC if your intent is to get a woman pregnant it’s better to have fresh semen than semen that’s been “retained” for a while.

Shadowplay
4 years ago

“Thats not REEEEEAAAALLL attraction.”

Yeah, mate. Walk on. Those grapes are sour as fuck.

TacticalProgressive
TacticalProgressive
4 years ago

The more I hear about Manosphere types waffling on about “seamen retention” and “preserving their precious bodily fluids”: the more I think of General Jack D. Ripper from Dr.Strange Love and that these dinguses watched the film but didn’t catch on that General Ripper was intended to be shown as a sexually stifled, emotionally maladjusted, puritanical machismo dude running off of troll logic, tinfoil chewing conspiracies and pseudoscience who wanted to engulf the world in Nuclear apocalypse and being stupidly dangerous and dangerously stupid for it and generally being the bad guy!

You can’t get any more obvious about the fact this guy and his dubious reasoning is bad road and yet the ilk parroting Rippers rational and “values” think “yeah he was onto something”.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
4 years ago

Will I regret asking, what is “PMO“?

Fishy Goat
Fishy Goat
4 years ago

@Alan Porn, Masturbation, Orgasm. (I figured it was probably NOT Prime Minister’s Office. *snerk*)

Crip Dyke
4 years ago

Semen retention is everything. Semen is the fluid of the gods.

This is, more or less, what the ancient Greeks thought. It worked hand-in-hand (or something-in-something anyway) with their tradition of older men taking younger men as lovers. The younger men were to receive the semen of the older and as a result the magical essence of the older man would help the younger become as knowledgeable, wise, healthy, skilled, and able as the older.

It was the gods who imbued the semen with its magic, but the semen of each individual man transmitted something of that individuals character (which is why the children sired by one man tended to have similarities with that man). The younger men simply took advantage of this divine magic to capture something of the nature, experience and character of the older.

So I wonder if this semen-retainer – or, indeed, all semen-retainers – with his misogyny and magic semen is on a path to reintroduce that tradition.

I mean, isn’t that the logical outcome of magic semen + hating women?

Hippodameia
Hippodameia
4 years ago

Ugh. Gaaahhhhh. Ugh.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
4 years ago

@ fishy goat

Porn, Masturbation, Orgasm

Thanks for the explanation. In fairness to the original poster, that would be a plausibly logical progression.

Moggie
Moggie
4 years ago

@Hippodameia:

Ugh. Gaaahhhhh. Ugh.

Oh no! A zombie! Run!

You know, I’ve seen a number of zombie movies, and I don’t recall ejaculation playing a part.

Naglfar
Naglfar
4 years ago

@Crip Dyke
Wouldn’t that be the opposite of semen retention, if the older man is giving up his semen to the younger man? Even if they weren’t homophobic, semen retainers would be too selfish to give their semen to other men. They’d want it all for themselves.

Dalillama
Dalillama
4 years ago

@Naglfar
They’re so brimming over with manliness they can afford to share some with young Chads-in-waiting

Ann K
Ann K
4 years ago

A semen-retentive man has as much of a place in nature’s grand scheme as no man at all. One who is proud of it is a notch lower.

Definitely not Steve
Definitely not Steve
4 years ago

This has some strange evolutionary implications that I’m sure this dude hasn’t considered. If semen retention attracted females, then through the course of evolution humans would have selected for significantly larger prostates (we’d probably all get prostate cancer by the time we’re 40, for those of us with prostates).

We probably would have also lost the ability to have wet dreams, and the urge to masturbate would be selected against. For how much these people think about not masturbating, they really don’t think very deeply about the implications of what they claim.

Naglfar
Naglfar
4 years ago

@Dalillama

They’re so brimming over with manliness they can afford to share some with young Chads-in-waiting

But then they’d lose all their power and women wouldn’t be attracted to them. At least, not for another 3 days. It always shocks me how short semen retainers think it takes to gain the powers. Most people have probably gone much longer than 3 days without masturbating.

@Definitely Not Steve

For how much these people think about not masturbating, they really don’t think very deeply about the implications of what they claim.

They’re probably too busy thinking about semen and how great it is to think scientifically.

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

Will I regret asking, what is “PMO“?

I know the questions already been correctly answered, but my first thought was definitely “pre-menstrual officer”

I don’t know what that means.

Amtep
Amtep
4 years ago

I’ve seen some serious argument that semen is also the “living water” referred to in John 4 and John 7.

In John 4: Jesus meets a Samaritan woman at a well, and offers her the living water, describing it as “everlasting” compared to ordinary water. When she asks him how she can get some of this living water, he tells her to fetch her husband.

In John 7: Jesus said “He that believeth on me, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water”.

I think it means the semen retainers have it backwards.

Lizzie
Lizzie
4 years ago

Well, David, I hope that isn’t your only Christmas present, at the very least maybe the cats could hoick up a furball or catch a moth for you! Best wishes to you and the furry overlords and for good health in the year to come.

Naglfar
Naglfar
4 years ago

@WWTH

I know the questions already been correctly answered, but my first thought was definitely “pre-menstrual officer”

I don’t know what that means.

A policewoman the day before her period begins?

@Amtep

I think it means the semen retainers have it backwards.

If we’re looking at the Bible, the semen retainers also have it backwards another way. The Bible is very clear that men should have frequent sex with their wives. Most hardcore semen retainers seem to think that semen should not be given to women under any circumstances, which is not in line with the Bible. At least, not the way I’ve seen it interpreted.

Surplus to Requirements, Observer of the Vast Blight-Wing Enstupidation
Surplus to Requirements, Observer of the Vast Blight-Wing Enstupidation
4 years ago

The “living water” might be wine, or another form of low-concentration alcohol. Back in those days, pre-sanitation, pre-antibiotics, and pre-water-treatment-plants, water was typically sufficiently unsafe to drink, especially near or in population centers, that undistilled alcohol was widely used instead, since it has antimicrobial properties.

Alcohol was also used to preserve food: pickling in alcohol is one common low-tech way to do so, with pickling in brine being another. (Both are apparently beat by pickling in honey. The ancient Egyptians did that, and stuff they preserved 5000 years ago is reportedly still unspoiled and safe to eat.)

Catalpa
Catalpa
4 years ago

Yeah! That attraction that women feel towards sexy men is only fleeting and shallow, not like the everlasting attraction that women feel towards men who don’t ejaculate. Because, you know, it’s really simple to be able to just eternally never ejaculate, especially when women keep uncontrollably throwing themselves at you.

Zemyla
Zemyla
4 years ago

This has some strange evolutionary implications that I’m sure this dude hasn’t considered. If semen retention attracted females, then through the course of evolution humans would have selected for significantly larger prostates (we’d probably all get prostate cancer by the time we’re 40, for those of us with prostates).

We probably would have also lost the ability to have wet dreams, and the urge to masturbate would be selected against. For how much these people think about not masturbating, they really don’t think very deeply about the implications of what they claim.

It’s because the (((lizard people))) corrupted the natural course of evolution millions of years ago, with their secret mind lasers and shit. It’s obvious if you think about it for a microsecond.

Buttercup Q. Skullpants

I got stuck on “only guys with insane amounts of money, status, or social status have girls”, and then its immediate dismissal, not because the OP reconsidered how stupid that sounded, but because the stupid wasn’t extreme enough. Women have zero attraction to men; women have sooper sekrit radar that detects when/how often someone has spooged; and the moment Brad Pitt ejaculates, she’s outta there.

(I also love how “status” and “social status” are two separate things.)

What is this “REAL” attraction he’s going on about that isn’t love (but it’s “spiritual”) and isn’t lust (but it’s “animal”)? So vague. So mystical. So self-serving.

Robert Haynie
Robert Haynie
4 years ago

Well, taking the article in question at face value, it suggests something that seems more counter-intuitive than any I have ever considered.

Apparently, by the logic above, the most attractive male to any “proper” female is one who is utterly, completely impotent.

Yeah, not sure I’m buying that one.

IronCthulhu
IronCthulhu
4 years ago

Someone with an addiction could probably benefit from going cold turkey for a bit. They could resensitize themselves. Beyond that, abstinence by itself would probably have diminishing returns in terms of benefits.

Perhaps in combination with some other practice. I remember a feminist blog talking about incels that was making the case that men could be happy without sex. I can’t find it now though. But she mentioned a certain yogi who was a virgin, who had undergone MRI scans while meditating which showed strong gamma waves.

Would it make you more attractive to women? I’d say if you’re already attractive, and on top of that you’re kind of aloof about sex, that would add to the attraction. That’s human psychology of wanting something even more if you’re not able to have it.

Naglfar
Naglfar
4 years ago

@Surplus

Both are apparently beat by pickling in honey

Out of curiosity, is it still possible to buy things pickled in honey? I’m now curious what things pickled in honey taste like.

That reminds me of this comic:comment image