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Women are only attracted to men who retain their semen, man who retains his semen declares

Dude must be filled to the brim with semen

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By David Futrelle

It’s nearly Christmas, and so I’ve decided to give myself an early present by giving in to my strange fascination with the Semen Retention subreddit, again.

Today, some thoughts on “female attraction” and how women aren’t really attracted to any man who isn’t diligently not-fapping, according to a dude who diligently doesn’t fap or, apparently, ever spill his seed in any context.

Female Attraction is mostly nonexistent outside of Semen Retention (self.Semenretention)

submitted 5 days ago by randomfamilydude

The reason why women don't chase men, or why only guys with insane amounts of money, status or social status have girls (and they always have) is because of ejaculation. And even those guys are not REALLY attracting women. They are just "sabotaging" the female instinct for protection and social attention, but the female attraction is not even that strong and eventually makes women unsatisfied.

You are NOT attracting women on a truly spiritual and animal level if you ejaculate, period. Even billionaires, even bad boys, even social butterflies or extreme alpha males, sure they can take women to bed, but the attraction, the REAL attraction is not there.

Masturbation and ejaculation are not natural. If you ejaculate to do anything other than procreating you're a zombie, no matter how much status or women you have.

Your PMO addicted alpha friend who is banging chicks is not even really attracting them. The female feels a small amount of magnetism towards them because of status but it never reaches the natural level, and eventually it just fades away.

No wonder women are unsatisfied and depressed, and men are killing themselves. Semen retention is everything. Semen is the fluid of gods.

Women attraction is useless if it isn't used as a tool to maintain a woman to procreate, so forget it as a "benefit", and look at it as the natural condition.

So there you have it.

This dude’s post got dozens of upvotes on the SR subreddit, because of course it did.

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Naglfar
Naglfar
9 months ago

Masturbation and ejaculation are not natural

Umm…if ejaculation is not natural, then how would babby formed? These semen retainers don’t seem to know much about the birds and the bees.

Also IIRC if your intent is to get a woman pregnant it’s better to have fresh semen than semen that’s been “retained” for a while.

Shadowplay
9 months ago

“Thats not REEEEEAAAALLL attraction.”

Yeah, mate. Walk on. Those grapes are sour as fuck.

TacticalProgressive
TacticalProgressive
9 months ago

The more I hear about Manosphere types waffling on about “seamen retention” and “preserving their precious bodily fluids”: the more I think of General Jack D. Ripper from Dr.Strange Love and that these dinguses watched the film but didn’t catch on that General Ripper was intended to be shown as a sexually stifled, emotionally maladjusted, puritanical machismo dude running off of troll logic, tinfoil chewing conspiracies and pseudoscience who wanted to engulf the world in Nuclear apocalypse and being stupidly dangerous and dangerously stupid for it and generally being the bad guy!

You can’t get any more obvious about the fact this guy and his dubious reasoning is bad road and yet the ilk parroting Rippers rational and “values” think “yeah he was onto something”.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
9 months ago

Will I regret asking, what is “PMO“?

Fishy Goat
Fishy Goat
9 months ago

@Alan Porn, Masturbation, Orgasm. (I figured it was probably NOT Prime Minister’s Office. *snerk*)

Crip Dyke
9 months ago

Semen retention is everything. Semen is the fluid of the gods.

This is, more or less, what the ancient Greeks thought. It worked hand-in-hand (or something-in-something anyway) with their tradition of older men taking younger men as lovers. The younger men were to receive the semen of the older and as a result the magical essence of the older man would help the younger become as knowledgeable, wise, healthy, skilled, and able as the older.

It was the gods who imbued the semen with its magic, but the semen of each individual man transmitted something of that individuals character (which is why the children sired by one man tended to have similarities with that man). The younger men simply took advantage of this divine magic to capture something of the nature, experience and character of the older.

So I wonder if this semen-retainer – or, indeed, all semen-retainers – with his misogyny and magic semen is on a path to reintroduce that tradition.

I mean, isn’t that the logical outcome of magic semen + hating women?

Hippodameia
Hippodameia
9 months ago

Ugh. Gaaahhhhh. Ugh.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
9 months ago

@ fishy goat

Porn, Masturbation, Orgasm

Thanks for the explanation. In fairness to the original poster, that would be a plausibly logical progression.

Moggie
Moggie
9 months ago

@Hippodameia:

Ugh. Gaaahhhhh. Ugh.

Oh no! A zombie! Run!

You know, I’ve seen a number of zombie movies, and I don’t recall ejaculation playing a part.

Naglfar
Naglfar
9 months ago

@Crip Dyke
Wouldn’t that be the opposite of semen retention, if the older man is giving up his semen to the younger man? Even if they weren’t homophobic, semen retainers would be too selfish to give their semen to other men. They’d want it all for themselves.

Dalillama
Dalillama
9 months ago

@Naglfar
They’re so brimming over with manliness they can afford to share some with young Chads-in-waiting

Ann K
Ann K
9 months ago

A semen-retentive man has as much of a place in nature’s grand scheme as no man at all. One who is proud of it is a notch lower.

Definitely not Steve
Definitely not Steve
9 months ago

This has some strange evolutionary implications that I’m sure this dude hasn’t considered. If semen retention attracted females, then through the course of evolution humans would have selected for significantly larger prostates (we’d probably all get prostate cancer by the time we’re 40, for those of us with prostates).

We probably would have also lost the ability to have wet dreams, and the urge to masturbate would be selected against. For how much these people think about not masturbating, they really don’t think very deeply about the implications of what they claim.

Naglfar
Naglfar
9 months ago

@Dalillama

They’re so brimming over with manliness they can afford to share some with young Chads-in-waiting

But then they’d lose all their power and women wouldn’t be attracted to them. At least, not for another 3 days. It always shocks me how short semen retainers think it takes to gain the powers. Most people have probably gone much longer than 3 days without masturbating.

@Definitely Not Steve

For how much these people think about not masturbating, they really don’t think very deeply about the implications of what they claim.

They’re probably too busy thinking about semen and how great it is to think scientifically.

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

Will I regret asking, what is “PMO“?

I know the questions already been correctly answered, but my first thought was definitely “pre-menstrual officer”

I don’t know what that means.

Amtep
Amtep
9 months ago

I’ve seen some serious argument that semen is also the “living water” referred to in John 4 and John 7.

In John 4: Jesus meets a Samaritan woman at a well, and offers her the living water, describing it as “everlasting” compared to ordinary water. When she asks him how she can get some of this living water, he tells her to fetch her husband.

In John 7: Jesus said “He that believeth on me, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water”.

I think it means the semen retainers have it backwards.

Lizzie
Lizzie
9 months ago

Well, David, I hope that isn’t your only Christmas present, at the very least maybe the cats could hoick up a furball or catch a moth for you! Best wishes to you and the furry overlords and for good health in the year to come.

Naglfar
Naglfar
9 months ago

@WWTH

I know the questions already been correctly answered, but my first thought was definitely “pre-menstrual officer”

I don’t know what that means.

A policewoman the day before her period begins?

@Amtep

I think it means the semen retainers have it backwards.

If we’re looking at the Bible, the semen retainers also have it backwards another way. The Bible is very clear that men should have frequent sex with their wives. Most hardcore semen retainers seem to think that semen should not be given to women under any circumstances, which is not in line with the Bible. At least, not the way I’ve seen it interpreted.

Surplus to Requirements, Observer of the Vast Blight-Wing Enstupidation
Surplus to Requirements, Observer of the Vast Blight-Wing Enstupidation
9 months ago

The “living water” might be wine, or another form of low-concentration alcohol. Back in those days, pre-sanitation, pre-antibiotics, and pre-water-treatment-plants, water was typically sufficiently unsafe to drink, especially near or in population centers, that undistilled alcohol was widely used instead, since it has antimicrobial properties.

Alcohol was also used to preserve food: pickling in alcohol is one common low-tech way to do so, with pickling in brine being another. (Both are apparently beat by pickling in honey. The ancient Egyptians did that, and stuff they preserved 5000 years ago is reportedly still unspoiled and safe to eat.)

Catalpa
Catalpa
9 months ago

Yeah! That attraction that women feel towards sexy men is only fleeting and shallow, not like the everlasting attraction that women feel towards men who don’t ejaculate. Because, you know, it’s really simple to be able to just eternally never ejaculate, especially when women keep uncontrollably throwing themselves at you.

Zemyla
Zemyla
9 months ago

This has some strange evolutionary implications that I’m sure this dude hasn’t considered. If semen retention attracted females, then through the course of evolution humans would have selected for significantly larger prostates (we’d probably all get prostate cancer by the time we’re 40, for those of us with prostates).

We probably would have also lost the ability to have wet dreams, and the urge to masturbate would be selected against. For how much these people think about not masturbating, they really don’t think very deeply about the implications of what they claim.

It’s because the (((lizard people))) corrupted the natural course of evolution millions of years ago, with their secret mind lasers and shit. It’s obvious if you think about it for a microsecond.

Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
9 months ago

I got stuck on “only guys with insane amounts of money, status, or social status have girls”, and then its immediate dismissal, not because the OP reconsidered how stupid that sounded, but because the stupid wasn’t extreme enough. Women have zero attraction to men; women have sooper sekrit radar that detects when/how often someone has spooged; and the moment Brad Pitt ejaculates, she’s outta there.

(I also love how “status” and “social status” are two separate things.)

What is this “REAL” attraction he’s going on about that isn’t love (but it’s “spiritual”) and isn’t lust (but it’s “animal”)? So vague. So mystical. So self-serving.

Robert Haynie
Robert Haynie
9 months ago

Well, taking the article in question at face value, it suggests something that seems more counter-intuitive than any I have ever considered.

Apparently, by the logic above, the most attractive male to any “proper” female is one who is utterly, completely impotent.

Yeah, not sure I’m buying that one.

IronCthulhu
IronCthulhu
9 months ago

Someone with an addiction could probably benefit from going cold turkey for a bit. They could resensitize themselves. Beyond that, abstinence by itself would probably have diminishing returns in terms of benefits.

Perhaps in combination with some other practice. I remember a feminist blog talking about incels that was making the case that men could be happy without sex. I can’t find it now though. But she mentioned a certain yogi who was a virgin, who had undergone MRI scans while meditating which showed strong gamma waves.

Would it make you more attractive to women? I’d say if you’re already attractive, and on top of that you’re kind of aloof about sex, that would add to the attraction. That’s human psychology of wanting something even more if you’re not able to have it.

Naglfar
Naglfar
9 months ago

@Surplus

Both are apparently beat by pickling in honey

Out of curiosity, is it still possible to buy things pickled in honey? I’m now curious what things pickled in honey taste like.

That reminds me of this comic:comment image

Lainy
Lainy
9 months ago

These are the dumbest people I’ve ever seen and i had to spend last night watching fox news because I’m at my aunts. Had the most vile woman trying to say an abortion was a mother killing a baby after its born.

Crip Dyke
9 months ago

Most hardcore semen retainers seem to think that semen should not be given to women under any circumstances, which is not in line with the Bible. At least, not the way I’ve seen it interpreted.

Of course, the bible interpreters that have received all the attention to their views have always been men.

This raises the possibility that many of the “semen retainers” on the internet may be married, heterosexual women:

No, honey, didn’t you read that article I sent you? It’s not that I have a headache, it’s just that I want the deepest possible connection to you. I really really want a real attraction, you know? Maybe if you could just take a break from sex for, I don’t know, a year or two? Maybe we would reach a new phase in our relationship? Maybe you would become, you know, like more attractive than a man with Bill Gates’ money, Michio Kaku’s brains, and Dwayne Johnson’s body all rolled into one. You’d like that wouldn’t you? Yes, baby. Sure baby. I’ll only be more devoted to you, more attracted to you, if you just hold off on ejaculating for a few years.

Rhuu - apparently an illiterati
Rhuu - apparently an illiterati
9 months ago

@IronCthulhu

I remember a feminist blog talking about incels that was making the case that men could be happy without sex.

Was it this one? Because men can be happy without sex. Interest in doing sexy things is on a scale, with “yes!!!” On one side and “eh, nah.” On the other.

I’d say this scale is usually subdivided further, with “interest in doing sexy things with others” and “interest in doing sexy things with yourself” as two categories.

Sometimes all someone wants is a little alone time, and they’re good. Sometimes not having a partner for sexy times makes people (men, women, and all flavours of people) unhappy.

Pretty much the point is this: men can deal with their own emotions re: wanting sex. No one owes it to them. If they don’t have a partner, they can still take care of themselves while they look for someone who likes them enough for partnered sexy times.

I’d say if you’re already attractive, and on top of that you’re kind of aloof about sex, that would add to the attraction.

No, this is not quite true. ‘Aloof’ is the wrong way to look at this, since it usually means ’emotionally distant’. Just don’t be obsessed with sex, and getting every woman around you to have it with you. Be cool.

Is it appropriate for you to ask her? Is your relationship one that could include sex?

Is she saying no, either with verbal or non-verbal cues?

Has she told you ‘no’ before (verbally or non-verbally)?

Women (i feel confidant stating these things) like a man who a) they are interested in, and b) isn’t BADGERING them about his dick.

It isn’t aloofness that is hot, re: sex, it’s being able to communicate that you’re interested in a non-creepy manner, and then responding to the answer, be it a yes, no, or maybe later (this might also be a soft no) appropriately and with grace.

Lumipuna (nee Arctic Ape)
Lumipuna (nee Arctic Ape)
9 months ago

Buttercup:

(I also love how “status” and “social status” are two separate things.)

lots of money = economic status
popular celebrity = social status
dark triad bad boy = asocial status
chiseled looks = marble status

What is this “REAL” attraction he’s going on about that isn’t love (but it’s “spiritual”) and isn’t lust (but it’s “animal”)? So vague. So mystical. So self-serving.

Clearly, REAL attraction has nothing to do with whether women will have sex or relationships with you. It’s not something women feel consciously, and certainly not something they associate with you personally.

REAL attraction enables women to have fulfilling, procreating life-long relationships with some other man, as nature intended.

IronCthulhu
IronCthulhu
9 months ago

@Rhuu

I remember a feminist blog talking about incels that was making the case that men could be happy without sex.

Was it this one? Because men can be happy without sex.

She was making a stronger point that men could be happy because of not having sex. She brought up the example of a yogi who had transmuted his sex drive/sexual energy whatever you want to call it.

It’s true that the semen retention/nofap thing has a lot of woo surrounding it so it would be helpful to remember the guys name for the purposes of this post. I can’t seem to find anything by combining the terms “virgin” “incel” “yogi” “meditation” “gamma”. It was shortly after the Minassian van attack & the flurry of discussion about incels that came from that.

Lainy
Lainy
9 months ago

Out of curiosity, is it still possible to buy things pickled in honey? I’m now curious what things pickled in honey taste like

We have to get stuff made by the Amish or the Mennonites. Both make really good traditional stuff like that. Where I live they have several shops. My husband got me this beautiful hand weaved basket as one gift from our first Christmas together. It lives on the coffee table and holds all of my candles right now. You could Google to see if any shops like that are near you. Its worth a Google.

Lainy
Lainy
9 months ago

Damn you block quote

Btw I’m driving home from my aunt’s and just saw a Mennonite buggy and horse go by if that gives you any idea lol

Chinchilla Dave, Owner of Over 40 Chinchillas
Chinchilla Dave, Owner of Over 40 Chinchillas
9 months ago

Hah, ridiculous.

Everyone knows that women are only attracted by the ownership of multiple mid-sized crepuscular rodents.

dashapants
dashapants
9 months ago

Chinchilla Dave is correct. If a man has a chinchilla, I’d be 50% more likely to chat him up. A ball pit full of chinchillas would work even better. There are no diminishing returns on chinchillas.

Paireon
Paireon
9 months ago

Me, reading the blogpost header:

“Huh. Seems like somebody should work on releasing his semen before the accumulation drowns his brains. Welp, this’ll probably be good for a chuckle or two…”

Me, after reading the thing:

“Heh. Hehehee. HehehehAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAHAHAHAAAA
HAHAHAAHAHAAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAAAAA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAaaaaaaa… What the fuck did I just read I don’t even”

Crip Dyke
9 months ago

There are no diminishing returns on chinchillas.

This needs to be a bumper sticker, so that people will see it entirely divorced from its original context. I love this SO HARD.

Ohlmann
Ohlmann
9 months ago

That warrant a “it make just as much sense in context” tag.

Allandrel
Allandrel
9 months ago

What about guinea pigs? They’re mid-size rodents, but not crepuscular (they basically alternate between short periods of activity and sleep – which they do with their eyes open). Do women experience Real Attraction to men with guinea pigs? Asking for a friend.

Paireon
Paireon
9 months ago

I also would like to say that the only one of my my cis/het guy friends who owns a chinchilla is about 50% percent likely to be as much of a virgin as I am, and whether or not he is is a question whose answer definitely lies in this pre-chinchilla days, so take that as you will.

That chinchilla’s fur is really fucking soft, though, so there’s that.

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

They are dang cute

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Naglfar
Naglfar
9 months ago

My ex-girlfriend had 2 chinchillas. The little chinchillas were so adorable and soft.

dashapants
dashapants
9 months ago

@Allandrel

I would hypothesize that guinea pigs are not as effective, but this needs field testing. Send pigs.

In fact, I think all guys out there should give this a shot. Unsolicited pics of guinea pigs would definitely go over better than photos of their pants weasel.

Ohlmann
Ohlmann
9 months ago

Guinea pigs are like pants weasel : it’s something intimate I would not show to strangers on the internet.

Allandrel
Allandrel
9 months ago

@Ohlmann

Guinea pigs are like pants weasel : it’s something intimate I would not show to strangers on the internet.

Oh, dear. I show strangers on the internet pictures of mine all the time.

My piggies, that is.

Crip Dyke
9 months ago

Unsolicited piggie pics are, to me at least, quite a few steps up from unsolicited dick pics.

Naglfar
Naglfar
9 months ago

I should hope I have not offended anyone with the unsolicited image of my Siberian Husky that serves as my avatar.

Ohlmann
Ohlmann
9 months ago

Eh, that’s a case of different persons having different standards, that’s all. You would get photos of thoses from my dead, cold hands.

(TBH, it’s the intent that count for me more than what is shown. What make dick picks incredibly offensive to me is that the intent behind it is rapey at the very best)

(also, I am particulary prude, and wish to not see a lot of stuff that society say is acceptable ; sadly the only acceptable solution in most cases is to not say to anyone that I am uncomfortable)