By David Futrelle
The dating world is rough.
What kind of world do we live in when a man with so much beef to offer can’t find himself a decent woman to settle down with?
Maybe someone should put him in touch with this woman.
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Alone in the middle of several hundred acres with only a freezer full of beef to keep you company while the Man is off Providing.
That’s stimulating.
What’s a “puncher by trade”?
Now, this really amusing when I think of in Finnish, as a Game of Thrones spoof.
Iron Throne = rautavaltaistuin
Beef Throne = nautavaltaistuin
700 lbs a year is quite a lot, though not enough for one person’s “carnivore” diet.
But what does it even mean? This guy gets a huge amount of beef as a job benefit? I sometimes get berries and potatoes because I work in plant production research, but it’s not in any way official or regular.
@Lumipuna
That’s hilarious! Though I have to point out that 700lbs of beef is more than enough for one person per year. It’s enough for 30.6 ounces per day. 4 ounces is a reasonable serving. This would be two HUGE steaks worth of beef every single day.
@kupo
How much would one have to eat per day if they were eating exclusively beef?
@Naglfar
~2 lbs of beef runs ~2200 kcals, so you’re alright if you don’t do anything strenuous.
@Lainy
He herds cattle for a living, and is allowed one steer a year as his personal allotment. That works out to 600-700 lbs of meat, depending on the size of the live animal (usually about a third of the weight is bones and gristle etc.)
Now we’ll have meatcels complaining that it’s over for them because they only have 150 lbs of beef.
…by the rancher whose log cabin I live in.
@Naglfar
Assuming a 2,000 calorie diet, which is low even for sedentary people, 28 ounces if we’re talking 85% lean. But you’ll die of scurvy before you get through the whole 700 lbs. ?
@kupo
That would be my main concern for anyone trying to eat an all meat diet. That and other vitamin deficiencies. I’m a vegetarian and generally don’t have a problem getting all the vitamins and macronutrients from my food and supplements (though I tend to have less iron than I should), but I imagine that an all meat diet is rather lacking in many of these.
@Naglfar
You can get your nutrients from an all-meat (or almost all-meat) diet, so long as you eat all the organs and some of their contents.
“And I swear you women would rather have a loser than a provider”
Yeah, chief, I just did a quick, informal poll amongst my lady-friends and each one of us found being referred to as “you women” quite unfathomably repellent.
Please refrain from such usage in the future, lest you die even more alone than you already will be.
Beef for dinner again?
I suppose it would taste better than seagull.
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Or he could try this solution, offered by the comic Preacher. I’d advise brain bleach.
I follow this guy on Facebook who’s a physiotherapist, and so doesn’t do research on nutrition himself, but regularly blogs about research in this area, in a very thourough and impartial manner. It’s interesting to read his stuff, because most people who write about nutritional research does so from within a particular bubble – like vegan bloggers only writing about research that supports veganism, low-carb bloggers only writing about research that support THEIR diet, etc for other diet groups. They’ll both cherry-pick studies, and twist the results or report about them in a misleading way.
(Note: I’ve been a vegan myself for 23 years now, for animal rights reasons. And a GOOD vegan diet – which is not any vegan diet whatsoever – is undoubtedly healthy. That doesn’t change the fact that you get a skewed picture of the health benefits from health-vegan bloggers and writers. Just like with any health-diet-fans.)
ANYHOOO, at some point I said to this physiotherapist dude online that surely Jordan Peterson is lying because otherwise he’d be dead from scurvy. And physiotherapist dude replied, also referencing research, that there are, for instance, small amounts of vitamin C in raw or barely-cooked meat; overall, you can get a sufficient amount of all vitamins etc not to get really ill or die from an all-meat diet. So JP might, for all we know, be telling the truth. And if you switch from regular western eating habits to almost ANY diet whatsoever, you tend to a) lose weight, and b) get improved readings on certain health measurements, at least initially.
There’s no reason, though, to believe a carnivore diet is long-term good for you, even if you SURVIVE on it and don’t actually die from scurvy. There’s a wide span between surviving and thriving. And yeah, obviously. You’d have to be EXTREMELY sectioned off in your own little internet bubble to think a meat-only diet would be GREAT, health-wise.
Re this provider bullshit… I’ve got tenure now, and a good salary, and I support Husband so he could quit working at the railroad and go to university and study to be a librarian instead (which is perfect for him, since he reads so much and loves books). Before that, he was falling to pieces with stress; a new company took over at his old job in 2016 and they were way worse than the old one, he had to work CRAZY hours, was in a fog of tiredness all the time and even began to get heart arythmia. Things are a million times better now.
Now he doesn’t have some kind of “provider” hang-up, but imagine how sad it would be to think that your worth in a relationship rests on bringing MONEY to the table. Ugh.
@Dvärghundspossen
I still doubt it. This is Jordan Peterson we’re talking about. He lies about everything else, what would make him any more likely to tell the truth on this issue? For folks like him, I assume everything they say is false until proven otherwise.
@ naglfar
Well not sleeping for 25 days straight is bound to be disorientating; cut the guys come slack!
Hahaha, yeah the sleep thing was obviously false. I was just surprised to learn that it’s possible to survive on an all-meat diet and not just die of scurvy or something, so I shared that piece with you, but yeah… it’s not like I’d be the least bit surprised if he drinks orange juice when no one’s watching.
@Battering Lamb
I know this site is by no means a “safe space” etc., but in the future could you please at least provide a warning before the embedded image when you post stuff like that? Aside from just being gross, without context and at first glance my brain jumped to “illustration showing a woman’s butchered corpse” and just fuck no. I’ve gotten enough imagery like that second-hand from hospital waiting room TVs without even trying.
@ Dvärghundspossen
It’s all quite interesting about carnivore diets; although the Masai thing turned out to be a myth.
A lot of people do report immediate health benefits once switching; but that’s because the carnivore diet is a pretty broad spectrum elimination diet. So if you had a gluten intolerance you were unaware of, then that would clear up.
Yeah buddy. Most women I’m aware of consider financial stability in a partner to be a big plus, whether they’re looking for a “provider” or not, and 700 pounds of beef a year isn’t a BAD thing for most (less of a selling point than you seem to think, though), so I have to wonder what’s wrong with YOU that you’re having so much trouble. As others have pointed out, starting out your address with “you women” probably doesn’t help.
If what you want is a woman to live alone (plus any kids you produce) in the middle of the hundreds of acres you live on, taking care of your paid-for housing (what odd phrasing…do you actually OWN the hundreds of acres and the housing, or is Buttercup right?) so you can be The Provider? Yeah, that’s gonna narrow down the field for you a little bit.
@ Dvärghundspossen:
If I understand things correctly, the problem with the naval provisions of hard tack and salted meat was not just the lack of fresh fruit, but that the meat *was* salted and preserved – fresher meat might have had some vitamin C. Also the lime cordial didn’t necessarily help because while it was made from citrus fruit, the vitamin C had also been broken down by the preservation process. Basically, if you’re trying to get your vitamins from food, freshness is a big deal?
Moon Custafer: Yeah exactly, the meat can’t be dried, it’s gotta be fresh and raw or barely cooked. You can, like, survive on just meat, and this isn’t based on massai but some more recent research in the western world. BUT probably still pretty bad for you, at least in the long run.
Whenever someone tells me an extreme diet improved their health, I kind of don’t believe them. Because short term good feelings are usually conflated with health. And as someone who has experienced an eating disorder, I can confirm that in the short run, undernourishment leads to euphoric feelings. Being high isn’t health.