By David Futrelle
Racist trolls are planning a Halloween version of the “It’s Okay to be White” poster campaign that garnered them a good deal of press — as well as support from the likes of David Duke, the Daily Stormer, and Tucker Carlson — when it was originally launched back in 2017.
One of the places they’re looking for recruits just happens to be the Men Going Their Own Way subreddit, where a post championing the postering campaign has garnered more than 300 upvotes and spurred a heated, if somewhat lopsided, debate. “There is a war on men in the West,” wrote MyBordersMyChoice.
White men are considered to be the worst kind. That’s why “It’s Okay To Be White” posters will be going up this Halloween … in public spaces around the world. All are welcome to join and help undermine this anti-white, anti-male ideology. Who’s in?
Apparently more than a few MGTOW Redditors.
Some argued that the postering campaign is necessary because SJW “bigotry” against white males might cause them to become racist.
“Good,” a commenter called TigPlaze wrote of the postering plan.
I used to think there was no need for that, and some years back there wasn’t. There is a need for it now. Some bigots, especially feminist ones, think there’s something wrong or evil with being a white male. They think flipping bigotry around is a great way to get rid of bigotry, but they’re only exchanging one type for another. Or maybe not. The hate against while males might encourage white men to feel anger toward others and even cause more bigotry.
Another commenter added that “Straight white christian men are the most oppressed group on earth.”
Still others suggested the campaign wasn’t about racist but “pride.”
“For decades now they have been telling us that whites are the only group not allowed to be proud of their heritage or be proud of their race,” wrote someone called Jarin01. “It’s time to stop bowing to people that hate us and start working together for our own best interests.”
And then there were those who didn’t bother with the concern trolling or careful euphemisms, instead letting their racist freak flags fly. One commenter suggested potential posterers skip the “It’s Okay to be White” posters and simply post propaganda from Atomwaffen instead, because, in his view, the racist terrorist group, whose members are already responsible for five murders, is “the only ideologically consistent pro white group that exists.”
More than a few commenters issued vague but threatening “warnings” to SJWs supposedly defaming white men and whites in general. “Push a man into a corner with nowhere to go but forward and see what happens,” warned someone called datdbui6.
Several commenters suggests that “what might happen” is that whites could launch a new Holocaust and unleash global devastation. “Don’t piss off white people,” wrote RedCBR900.
They’re weak and stupid until they aren’t anymore, and no one on the planet can dish as much at them.Beware.
0signal0 made the threat more explicit:
Friendly reminder that when whites chimp out, world wars happen.
The last time a white nation said “we’ve had enough”, Europe got destroyed.
It’s not wise to piss off people who exhibit both a high IQ and organization talent.
Yes, these guys are identifying with the Nazis in their imagined scenarios.
There were, of course, some who were troubled — if not horrified — by the poster campain, and the discussion itself. “This isn’t mgtow related content this is way to political,” complained one.
Meanwhile, a former subreddit regular called zUltimateRedditor lamented that the subreddit had become “a white supremacist shithole. So glad I left.”
Apparently the subreddit’s pervasive misogyny is fine but the racism crosses the line.
MGTOWs and white supremacists have skirmished over the years, with some of the latter even suggesting that the MGTOW movement is a Jewish plot to destroy white marriage and lower white birthrates.
But the two groups have largely set aside their differences on the white baby issue to come together over their shared hatreds —though some MGTOWs are loath to acknowledge it. If the subreddit’s mostly warm embrace of this racist postering campaign is any indication, the Venn Diagram of MGTOWs and white supremacists may ultimately come to resemble a single circle.
If you see any of these posters up in your area, please document them. And then maybe do this.
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I read that article and am fuming. The basic gist of Meghan Murphy seems to be “I’m not transphobic, I just don’t recognize trans* people.” Reminds me of the manosphere classic “I don’t hate women, I just think they’re not equal to men.”
I’m not very familiar with DiManno, but she seems odious. She seems extremely transphobic herself and seems to think trans* folks are a punchline.
@Naglfar
Rosie DiManno is The Toronto Star’s token contrarian. If there’s a hot button topic, she’s there to write something obnoxious for clicks. When she’s not writing on sports (seriously). I’ve come to anticipate her bullshit at this point.
So I was watching the HBO show Watchmen, and there’s a reference to the Tulsa Oklahoma Race riots which a lot of people don’t know about, as evidenced by the fact that that was a high Google search the next day. Anyway, doing that research, will inevitably, lead a person down the path to other atrocities that were committed in the name of Whiteness, some of which are absolutely stomach churning in nastiness, and sheer viciousness!
The irony of a bunch of White men complaining that people see their race as bad, is not just precious, but kind of incredible. I mean Wow!
You know, every February, there’s a call by certain, deeply ignorant, White people, to have a White History Month, and I am now a firm proponent of the idea.
We absolutely should teach White History every March or April, (the information received would be so stomach churningly awful, there would probably be immediate calls for a repeal).
At any rate, I figured out that these were not in fact Race riots, as that implies that both parties contributed to the chaos. In every instance of these “riots” Black people were minding their own damn business very well, before they were set upon by angry mobs of White men and women, lynched, and brutalized. These were usually Race Massacres. So when I hear some yahoo on the internet, whining about starting a race war, what I actually hear is, they want to ambush, and then massacre any groups of people, they happen not to like. Kind of like the various mass shootings we’ve been seeing in the past years.
@Ikeke35
A shocking number of people are now pushing back against teaching slavery. I imagine the conservative news hosts would explode if this were to be taught.
The other day I got into an argument with some idiot who wanted to claim that white men collectively (and therefore he, by extension) can take credit for all kinds of inventions. After trying to explain that not everything was invented by white men and getting incoherent arguments back I said that he could take credit for lightbulbs (that was his example) if he also took credit for the Holocaust, the Holodomor, every fatality in WWI and WWII, and all the deaths in the Belgian Congo. That shut him up for a bit.
@Naglfar:
Critics of the head of TPL have pointed out that there was a similar (in some ways) case a few years back in which they permitted neo-nazis to hold an event at a library branch on the pretext that it was a memorial for the free-speech-absolutist lawyer who’d defended Ernst Zundel back in the day, and totally not a nazi rally.
(Semi-related—I did see a historical reenactor play a phrenologist at an event twenty years ago. In retrospect I hope no one took it seriously. At the time there seemed no danger anyone would. How naïve I was.)
@Ikeke35
I have a similar take on conservative apathy towards mass shootings. Not sure if I’m just stating the obvious or reaching, but they vast majority of them seem to want them to happen, given that the victims are usually people outside of their voting block.
It would certainly explain the disingenuous bullshit reasons they keep on spouting, despite how verifiably false they are. They way they see it, they are not the ones dying and each death is one less vote for the democracts, and one less person for them to contend with.
@Diego Duarte
That seems to be a big part of it. As is, they see the shootings (and other bigoted murders and assaults) as a way to maintain white supremacy. Fear and attacks is a strong way to keep power over a group.
That being said, I think it would be giving them too much credit to say they want the mass shooting to continue. It’s less conscious than that ; they don’t care about the victims so can’t be arsed to move even a tiny inch, and that perpetuate the system.
In some way, it’s the worse way of evil, because it’s impossible to make them realise what they do, or discuss why they do it.
So much for anybody who didn’t think MGTOWs aren’t part of the Alt-right.
This especially bothers me because there’s a theory in the CJ field called “labeling theory” – the idea is essentially that if you label someone a convict/criminal, people will treat them that way and it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. It’s a very valuable tool in the field, but lately this whole “You called me a Nazi so I became one” thing has been feeling like someone heard about labeling theory and completely misunderstood what it actually means.
weirwoodtreehugger: and I keep reading it as a “posturing” campaign.
Regardless it’s silly. And hateful.
@Naglfar, Diego Duarte, Ikeke35:
People have pointed out in the past that the NRA very much approved of gun control back when it was the Black Panthers talking about arming themselves.
I mean, he’s technically not wrong…
@ Talonknife
I’d say that in a nutshell, it’s another case of the difference being one of systematic oppression vs. individual incident, i.e. if someone can’t get a job because every potential employer does a background check, sees a conviction, and turns them away, then there’s an effective pressure for them to return to crime (and likely to harder crime if their original conviction was actually for something like marijuana possession), just in order to survive.
Contrast this with someone not facing any kind of systematic bias who tries to argue that, now that people are criticizing something they said or did as racist, they now have no choice but to align themselves with the acknowledged racists.
Oh, well, guess I don’t have to worry about pissing off white supremacists and MRAs, then.