By David Futrelle
Everybody’s favorite racist, lady-hating philosopher-impersonator has found a new target for his wrath: wine moms.
Well, he’s right about one thing: Women do indeed drink more wine than men — 57% percent of the total, according to the Wine MArket Council. And female drinking has increased dramatically in recent years.
But if Stefan were truly interested in pointing out the problems caused by parental drinking — as he insists he is — he wouldn’t just point his finger at mothers. While women drink more wine, men drink more alcohol in general; they’re twice as likely to binge drink and nearly twice as likely to be alcoholics. Wine mom, meet Booze dad.
But don’t worry, moms and moms-to-be! Stefan still wants you to have more babies, at least if you’re not a Muslim immigrant. Or someone with a job. Shortly after he posted his attack on wine moms, he posted these helpful tips for The Ladies:
So chop chop, Ladies, start popping out those babies as fast as you can. Just don’t pop open any bottles of wine when the little buggers have you at wits end.
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So what does Mr Foodblender think Christian (I understand that’s a popular religion in North America) women who attend Mass/Holy Communion are going to do about wine intake if he’s fretting about Muslim immigration?
On a lighter note, house point if you can spot the origin of the following quote:
‘Quaffing is like drinking but you spill more.’
@Crip Dyke
What happened with Watchmen? Is it the Comedian/Silk Spectre bit?
I just LOVE the red pill delusion – sorry; idea that men “gave” women equal rights like some indulgence à-la giving a kid a cookie before dinner and can be taken away again just as easily. It’s usually said right before they hang themselves with their own tongue.
I’m German, formerly Austrian.
Drinking predominantly beer or wine is mostly a regional thing.
My paternal grandpa was from a wine making area (Wachau), my maternal grandparents are from a cider making area (Carinthia).
I grew up in a beer making area (Old Bavaria), and now live in an area famed for its beer AND wine tradition (Frankonia).
And what a surprise, the people in the Wachau drink mostly whine, the people in Carinthia drink lots of cider, the people in Old Bavaria drink beer, and the people in Frankonia drink beer and wine.
All drinks are drunk everywhere, but the one that is drunk most is the one that was the most easily available in the past.
Another thing: Beer is something to drink when you’re thirsty, wine is something to drink more for the taste.
I don’t drink much as I don’t like the taste of most alcoholic beverages.
And I don’t give a fuck about if a drink is manly or not, since I’m agender…
@Kat:
Yeah, as a guy in his fifties, I’m a bit worried about this too. If I suddenly wake up one morning with a young woman’s horniness, I’m not sure what I would do with that. Would I need to change my wardrobe? Should I buy some sex toys in advance, to be prepared? I’m really not happy about this.
The average age gap in hetero marriages is two and a half years in the USA. The reason why older men like Stefan believe women in their twenties are throwing away their youth frivolously, is because they are busy dating men close to their own age. And after a time spent building relationships and gaining relative financial security, having their first kids (on average) in their mid-to-late twenties.
Also, “healthy and wealthy” men in their 40s/50s? Its a horrible fact that midlife men are the highest risk group for suicide. A quick Google suggests 50% suffer some kind of erectile dysfunction. The vast majority aren’t even at all wealthy. Women don’t turn into repulsive crones at 40 and start begging at the door of men who all turn into Peter-Pan-Tom-Cruise-a-likes, laughing with their many youthful girlfriends (who finally appreciate their mature charms). Does this man not live on this planet?
Hollywood taught me that wrinkly old guys are irresistible to conventionally hot young women, and Hollywood wouldn’t lie to me.
@knitting cat lady
German cider?? I’ve never heard of that, I’m intrigued.
I love French cider. I want to try the German cider.
More or less if it comes in a bottle or from a tap, I’ll drink it.
My partner drinks wine. He’s plenty manly enough for me.
I will admit that I look askance at anyone (male or female) who doesn’t have a pint when down the pub. But that is my bad.
I think Finland’s prohibition in the early 20th century taught people to appreciate plain water/alcohol mixes. Some of my great-grand-uncles were actually alcohol smugglers in the 1920s.
In my grandparents’ youth, working class Finnish men mostly drank vodka on weekends and women mostly didn’t drink. Since then, we’ve mostly grown back to our historical beer culture, while also adopting wines and other fancy drinks that were historically only available for the rich.
Here, wine is definitely still somewhat associated with fancy people and fancy drinking, not problem drinking or “thirsty” drinking. It’s a class thing much more than gender thing.
@rugbyyogi
Look up ‘Most’, that’s what we call it in the south.
We steal 20something women’s power just like the Parasite in comics can energy-drain Superman! It’s a treatment they give us in secret Old Guy Powers laboratories.
I’m not as familiar with Molyneux as some of the other misogynists out there. I see I haven’t missed anything.
@Kevin
Almost certainly Pratchett, although not sure which book 🙂
Kind of funny he’s ragging on working or single women for drinking. Wasn’t the stereotypical housewife in the 50’s downing cocktails and barbiturates like crazy?
He’s seriously still bringing up the “Sharia” talking point like it’s 2008?
The fact that he thinks an old man is hotter to a young woman then a guy in his early 20s which has the most energy, is in the best shape of his life, and has a long lasting sex drive amazes me. Muscly looking sex god that I love? Or grey haired old man who probably needs to take something to get it up. Gee I wonder which one I as a 21 year old woman am going to pick.
Side note for both men and women there are people in their 50s that I think look amazing. Would i still consider having sex with them right now? No because i would assume there is something not good about them if they cant attract someone in their age group
Absolutely Pratchett, and I want to say…Feet of Clay? It sounds like a Cheery Littlebottom complaint.
Hmm…
On the one hand, I like beer, wine, spirits, cider, mead, and cocktail drinks (last time I drank alcohol it was in the form of a huge raspberry mojito with 4 ounces in it). I wonder what that makes me according to his standards (for reference I consider myself a heterosexual cisgender male).
On the other, “If you don’t act like you’re already oppressed by sharia law you’ll end up oppressed by sharia law” is… pretty damn flawed, as arguments go…
@Lainy
Stefan here is 53. There is definitely something not good about him. I would never want to be in the same room as this shithead, nevermind sex.
The still paying off student loans bit: Don’t waste your time getting an education, traveling, building a carrer or anything other than making babies in your 20s and 30s! Dude, I did all that in my 20s and 30s and am thoroughly enjoyng my post menopausal 50s. With two cats and a tarantula.
I slacked off on my drinking since I got my weed card and *really* slacked off since cannabis became legal here. For me, it’s just a much better high, and I’ve never been left with a horrible, head-achy, nauseous hangover after a couch-locked bender. Right now, my (home) office is a big mess because I’ve been trimming bud.
That being said, I really enjoyed the wine in Italy while I was stationed there, especially Merlots and Spumanti. I’m way more into beer now, though. So many microbreweries nowadays!
The main reason I don’t drink much anymore is that I spend a lot of my time alone, and don’t enjoy drinking by myself. But I do have a Friday night ritual of eating junk food and drinking a nice kombucha for dinner with some home made edibles for dessert while I watch 80s music videos on MTV.
Speaking of booze…
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/oct/24/vagina-museum-gets-alcohol-licence-despite-warnings
Not to be mean, but men in their 40s & 50s do NOT have the sexual power of women in their 20s ? The manosphere has this fantasy that young women just looove older men, not realizing that “older” means 2.5 years, the average age difference in married couples ? Unless you’re a wealthy silver fox, you’re stuck with women your own age, fellas. & most of them are old enough to know better than to put up with your shit.
Sincerely, an over-the-wall babe dating a mid 20s Chadlet.
@Karalora & Simon Hales
I think it was Guards! Guards! I’m pretty sure it was during our introduction to Carrot
One thing I know about Stefan Molyneux is that he wrote a book supposedly about logic and also neoliberalism, which was apparently truly abysmal. Lots of actual logic professors and other philosophers gave reviews where they pointed out all the wrongness, but this is probably the absolutely harshest one: https://medium.com/@alexanderdouglas/the-art-of-the-ego-review-of-stefan-molyneuxs-stupid-book-4a195ab1a5bc
You simply gotta read this, it’s hilarious!
@Alan, oh no! There might be raucous people in Camden Market!