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The gunman who killed two in an attack on a German synagogue is a misogynist as well as an antisemite. Because they always are.

By David Futrelle

Earlier today, a gunman killed two in Halle, Germany in a failed assault on a synagogue; had he been able to get into the building itself — the door was locked and quickly barricaded — the death toll would have been much higher. He was quickly taken into custody.

Apparently inspired by the Christchurch shooter, the gunman live-streamed his attack, taking time out before starting the attack to identify himself as “Anon,” in what appeared to be a nod to chan culture, and to declare the Holocaust a hoax. He also took a few moments to rail against feminism, which he blamed as “the cause of declining birth rates in the West, which acts as a scapegoat” — I think he meant “excuse” — “for mass immigration,”

He went on to name “the Jew” as the “root of all these problems,” a reference to alt-right conspiracy theories charging Jews with concocting feminism — and encouraging mass immigration — as part of their alleged plan to destabilize the West.

It’s not surprising to discover that this raging antisemite and apparent alt-rightist is also a rabid antifeminist, because, as Yale University philosophy professor Jason Stanley notes in his book How Fascism Works, misogyny has always been central to “the logic of fascist politics.”

Hitler and his fellow Nazis wanted women, as far as was practical, confined to the arena of “Kinder, Küche, Kirche” — that is, “children, kitchen, and church.” As one Nazi ideologue put it in 1933,

to be a woman means to be a mother … the highest calling of the National Socialist woman is not just to bear children, but consciously and out of total devotion to her role and duty as mother to raise children for her people.

Alt-right neo-Nazi men today — and the alt-right is overwhelmingly male — similarly dream of marrying virginal tradwives who will happily stay home and raise a brood of perfect Aryan children.

Neo-Nazis today aren’t just worried about declining birth rates as a cause of what they melodramatically call “white genocide.” They are also concerned with why they’re falling — because women have the ability and the desire to engage in non-procreative sex, to separate female sexuality from motherhood. This is due in part to better birth control and the availability (currently being eroded) of abortion; it’s also due to the sexual autonomy promoted by feminism.

All this weakens the patriarchal family, and anything that weakens the patriarchal family is a threat to fascist ideology, itself based on a notion of political hierarchy centered around a father-like leader of the nation.

All this is why the alt-right is so freaked out by declining birthrates, And this is why Andrew Anglin of The Daily Stormer insists that a white women’s womb is “OUR WOMB – that’s right, it doesn’t belong to her, it belongs to the males in her society.”

Antifeminism — rooted in deep misogyny — is baked into fascist ideology. And so it’s disturbing, but not surprising, to see the latest alt-right shooter invoke it as one of the reasons for his inhuman terrorist assault.

H/T — The historical examples in this post all come from Stanley’s How Fascism Works, an excellent book you all should read.

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Naglfar
Naglfar
1 year ago

It was Yom Kippur, the holiest day of the year. So sad to hear that this happened. We need to stop white nationalism everywhere, before more people are killed.

vdawg
vdawg
1 year ago

I’m sickened again. People are like “only two people were killed” i just wanna cry. That’s two too many.

Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie
Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie
1 year ago

The “west” is doing a bang-up job of destabilizing ITSELF…

Katherine the Adequate
Katherine the Adequate
1 year ago

I have no words. It is very sad to read this. I’ve heard German laws against Neo Nazis have more teeth than American laws. I hope this is true. This man should not walk free in society, ever.

Crip Dyke
1 year ago

This is the kind of thing where it’s impossible to communicate what it means to have an attack on Yom Kippur. It’s not just that it’s a holy day, or a High Holy day, or “the holiest day of the year”.

It’s the day of atonement. We’re seeing our own wrongs in stark relief and asking that, despite our faults, we get a chance to do better over the next year.

Two people won’t get that chance.

And I can’t even communicate what that might mean to a truly observant jew (not like me) who was there, at synagogue, on this day of all days.

Troubelle: Moonbeam Malcontent, Bard of the New Movement
Troubelle: Moonbeam Malcontent, Bard of the New Movement
1 year ago

“Never again” in our promises, but “not again” on our lips.

…It’s less and less that I know what else to say.

Knitting Cat Lady
Knitting Cat Lady
1 year ago

Re: German anti nazi laws

They do have more teeth, but getting a conviction for ‘Volksverhetzung’ is a badge of honor in neo nazi circles.

And the German justice system, especially the police, is still blind on the right eye.

What I think might happen is a life sentence for ‘Mord aus niederen Beweggründen’ plus ‘besondere Schwere der Schuld’ so possibility of parole after 30 years instead of 15. On a good day they might even throw in ‘Sicherungsverwahrung’, which would make it an actual life sentence.

zesty
zesty
1 year ago

Die Ärzte still put it best when they said
“ARSCHLOCH”.
https://youtu.be/6X9CEi8wkBc

Kevin
Kevin
1 year ago

And you should have seen the Islamophobes and ultranationalists/isolationists crawl out of the woodwork on some sections of social media, then have to crawl back in when it was pointed out that:

1) A synagague congregation was attacked on Yom Kippur (that’s
what set off the Islamophobes.)

2) The customers of a kebab shop were also attacked (according to
the BBC report I read.) The proprietors of such an establishment in
Germany are likely to be Turkish or German Turks, and probably
Muslim. (Some people even tried doubling down on their social
media unpleasantness at this point.)

3) The cops announced they had a German neo-Nazi in custody.

I’ll not draw much satisfaction from their correction. People were murdered. But they must have found it galling the perpetrator was one of their own, or, more likely, that the public were aware of it.

Naglfar
Naglfar
1 year ago

@Crip Dyke
Yes, I simplified the idea somewhat by calling it the holiest holiday, mostly because I was still in shock when I wrote that. This was the first thing I noticed when I checked my phone after the holiday ended and after I had been at a synagogue, and all I can think about is that we aren’t safe. This happened in a country that actually has gun control, that actually has laws against Nazis. I live in a country that doesn’t have those, but has far more Nazis and a president that supports them.

I’m kind of at a loss for words.

Sheila Crosby
1 year ago

The arsehole apparently wanted to demonstrate that you can go on a murder spree with homemade weapons to “inspire” others to do the same.

[Side note: doesn’t he realise he would have “inspired” other kinds of arseholes, like ISIS, to use these weapons too? Maybe they do realise that they’re more violent than ISIS, at least in Europe and for the moment. Or maybe he didn’t think it through.]

Anyway, the home made weapons kept jamming. The live stream shows him repeatedly pointing his gun at someone only for it to jam. Bad as it is, it could have been far worse.

And the Guardian says he got the designs from a Philip Lunty, who lived only a mile or two from where I grew up.

Damn Philip Lunty.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/oct/10/halle-attack-homemade-guns-jammed-repeatedly-video-shows

Ohlmann
Ohlmann
1 year ago

In all seriousness, if the shooter is releasable at all (AKA if he ever show actual remorse and awareness of what he did), 15 or 30 years of prison is already a big enough punishment.

That being said, few peoples are releasable after 30 years of prisons. It’s too destructive on anyone’s mind, which is part of why the “war on drug” is so fucked up. In the case of that shooter, I am much less sympathic, but I start to not be so sure that it’s better than just executing him, outside of the fact outlawing death penalty mean we alway can liberate someone wrongly convicted.

As for the shooter itself, I thought about the shooting in the commute. I was seeing someone play a phone game where you use a sniper rifle to kill people. Coincidentally or not, both the victims he shooted during the brief time I looked at its phone were black civilians.

Bina
1 year ago

“OUR WOMB – that’s right, it doesn’t belong to her, it belongs to the males in her society.”

Bullshit. If it’s yours, it’s in YOUR body. If it’s not, you have no say over it. Women don’t want white ethnostates, we want sovereignty over our own bodies and lives. We will not be your baby dispensers.

And THAT, in a nutshell, is why women reject fascism, fascists, and the whole idiotic concept of white nationalism.

Katamount
1 year ago

My father’s extended family is from Halle. I don’t know if any live there any longer, but it certainly had me scanning the internet for the identity of the victims. Granted, they aren’t Jewish so would unlikely be at that scene… still leaves a worry in the back of my head.

*sigh*

It’s infinitely telling that all the Bernier supporters I interact with online use exactly the same talking points.

Knitting Cat Lady
Knitting Cat Lady
1 year ago

@Ohlmann:

I don’t know what prisons you are referring to, but German prisons very different from the American ones.

There is only ever one inmate to a cell, they wear their own clothes, they cook their own food.

They are encouraged to work. They get normal wages. Half of their wages get put in a savings account for after their release.

Plenty of inmates are only in the prison at night.

German prisons actually manage to rehabilitate and general recidivism rate is rather low.

German prisons are quite like the Norwegian ones.

Naglfar
Naglfar
1 year ago

@Bina

And THAT, in a nutshell, is why women reject fascism, fascists, and the whole idiotic concept of white nationalism.

Unfortunately, there are some women who do support fascism, much like the FeMRAs. Lana Lokteff, Faith Goldy, Justine Tunney, Andrea Hardie, and a few others come to mind. Thankfully, they’re few and far between.

However, among the fascist women that exist, I generally notice that they seem to only want fascist ideas like rape and forced pregnancy for other women and see themselves as exempt from it all. Fascists tend to not to think things through, and these women clearly have not. They don’t seem to realize that fascist societies would not exempt them.

Fascism is awful. I can only hope that more people step up to oppose it as it rears it’s ugly head around the world.

@Knitting Cat Lady
Your prisons sound much better than those in the US. My hope is that one day we’ll have prison reform here to be more like those in Europe. IMO prisons should work to rehabilitate criminals for reintegration into society.

Jenora Feuer
Jenora Feuer
1 year ago

@Katamount, somewhat off-topic, re Bernier:
I work up in Markham-Unionville, where the People’s Party candidate is from Malaysia: Sarah Chung. (She won an Olympic medal in Taekwando for Malaysia.) Apparently she’s also a case processing officer for Immigration Refugees and Citizenship Canada. And she’s running for the most anti-immigrant and anti-government party on the ballot. (It looks like she was previously trying to be an MPP in Ford’s government, but he appointed someone else to run in the riding. And previously lost an election to be a Toronto city councillor.)

I’ve kept thinking to myself (and this applies to FemRAs, Log Cabin Republicans, and a number of other groups)… how do these people not see that the group they’re fronting for is fundamentally opposed to their interests? That being ‘one of the good ones’ only means they’ll get thrown under the bus later rather than immediately?

One article I saw summed it up nicely:
https://www.nationalobserver.com/2019/10/09/news/chicken-voting-colonel-sanders-meet-public-servants-running-peoples-party

Donald Savoie, the Canada Research Chair in public administration and governance at the Université de Moncton, said he’s “dumbfounded” that bureaucrats could be drawn to the People’s Party, whose platform is like “a vote of non-confidence for the institution” at which they work.

“It’s like a chicken voting for the party led by Colonel Sanders,” said Savoie.

rv97
rv97
1 year ago

@Jenora Feuer @Naglfar

Because to them, men are better than women. I read some post about how this was considered the case in a Catholic community somewhere (can’t remember where it was) and the girls just sadly seemed to accept that, at least according to the author who remarked on this.

I don’t know. I think women are better than men because at least women aren’t responsible for most of mankind’s heinous crimes. Murderers are overwhelmingly male. Rapists are overwhelmingly male. I will also sound a little bit like an MRA, but in a few respects, especially regarding self-expression, women are far freer than men in doing so.

But honestly, I feel ashamed that I have to be the same gender as that murderer and that many people of my assigned gender believe this as well as several women too (no thanks to religious fundamentalism and racism).

Katamount
1 year ago

@Jenora Feuer

Ah, and the plot thickens with respect to Sarah Chung: https://canadafreepress.com/article/why-multiculturalism-has-to-be-made-an-issue-this-election

She basically lays out her opposition to multiculturalism there, namedropping Neil Bissoondath (whose fiction I studied in university) and Ujjal Dosanjh to back up her claim of the divisive nature of Canada’s multicultural policy. And introduces a sixth element to add to the five I named above: trauma stemming from ethnic divisions in their country of origin. They fled ethnic and cultural strife, so they see anything less than conformance to the dominant culture as the first step on that road here.

Yet despite all the references to “shared identity” and a “collective memory” with respect to a core “Canadian culture”, it goes entirely undefined! As it always does, because the arc of Canada’s entire history has been one of mediating our differences, with plenty of failures to go along with our successes. The English-French divide is only the most obvious, but the divides were also along religion and class. Heck, Confederation itself was a union of disparate British colonies, each with their own sense of self (paging Louis Riel). Multiculturalism is the way that we co-exist under a secular governance and legal model. It’s better than burning down Parliament Buildings and rioting in the streets.

We’ve also seen the alternative to a robust pluralistic model Far too often.

Moon Custafer
1 year ago

@Jenora Feuer, @Katamount:

Apparently she’s also a case processing officer for Immigration Refugees and Citizenship Canada. And she’s running for the most anti-immigrant and anti-government party on the ballot.

I wonder if it’s a combination of wanting to pull the ladder up after oneself, and work burnout turning one against the clients, with an end result of: “I came to this country fair and square, but these people whose cases I process are having it too easy!”

As you say, she’s allied her self with the crowd who’ll throw her under the bus once she’s no longer useful.

They fled ethnic and cultural strife, so they see anything less than conformance to the dominant culture as the first step on that road here.

I can feel a little more sympathy for that view, though I still think it’s wrong. Sort of like one of my high school classmates who I no longer follow on Facebook because he’s farther to the right than I can communicate with, but I suspect it’s all because his father grew up in East Germany (and he himself is currently living in Saigon) so he thinks any policy even slightly to the left of the current Tories is a slippery slope into Soviet repression/the Khmer Rouge.

Diego Duarte
Diego Duarte
1 year ago

Where is Andrew Anglin hiding anyway? Is he really so competent that he has managed to avoid detection and outing ALL this time, despite heading what is arguably the worst page on the internet?

I keep on thinking that we, as a society, need to go beyond the Nuremberg trials and adopt treaties regarding Hate Speech. Without the tools to dehumanize vulnerable groups it will be far more difficult for fascists to recruit, or spread their bile.

I’m still at a loss at how AlD is allowed to exist in Germany after what Nazism did to the country, and to the world.

Katamount
1 year ago

WordPress appears to have eaten my earlier response, but in addition to noting the “pulling the ladder up behind” mentality, Sarah Chung appears to be a fundamentalist Christian to boot, tagging in Tanya Granic Allen while promoting an anti-gay and anti-trans panel she was on.

So there’s a religious fundamentalism angle here too.

Ariblester
1 year ago

Correction: Sarah Chung competed in, but did not win medals at, the Olympics. She was a regional Asian taekwondo medalist, though.

Also, I find this statement in the article linked by @Katamount very galling:

Having come from a country born out of ethnic secession (Malaysia, which lost Singapore in 1965) and which is still fraught with ethnic strife, I couldn’t agree more.

An explanation of the myriad ways how this statement this is wrong would go on for pages, but the TL;DR is that Singapore’s separation from Malaysia was because its ruling party’s advocacy of multiculturalism threatened the political system in Malaysia, which was (and continues to be) drawn along racial lines.

So, yeah, I guess you could take away the lesson that multiculturalism divides nations from that.

Jenora Feuer
Jenora Feuer
1 year ago

@Naglfar:
I hadn’t seen your last message when I posted mine, but yes, there’s a lot of ‘oh, those rules will only apply to other people, not me, I’m one of the good ones’ in fascist support from people you’d think should know better than to support that.

Like a lot of the anti-abortion support from women is pretty classist, being both biased by being rich enough to take advantage of options unavailable to everyone (travel to other states in the U.S., travel to England from Ireland, etc) as well as the standard sort of ‘keep your legs shut’ attitude that assumes only lower-class people are stupid enough to need that sort of thing.

@Katamount:
Can’t say I’m surprised about the fundamentalism angle. A good chunk of the support for Ford came from various fundamentalist ‘how dare you teach my innocent children that icky gay people exist’ groups, who may not have agreed on much of anything else.

The only good thing is that (as far as I understand it) Ford’s actual changes to the updated sex ed curriculum were just a minimal amount of shuffling of years topics were taught at and making it easier for parents to pull their children out of the classes.

Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie
Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie
1 year ago

They fled ethnic and cultural strife, so they see anything less than conformance to the dominant culture as the first step on that road here.

To me, the obvious problem with this (and it’s been the mainstay of “assimilation” thought for decades) is, THERE IS NO FUCKING “DOMINANT CULTURE” TO ASSIMILATE!!

There is a dominant SKIN TONE, a dominant RELIGIOUS HERITAGE, a dominant GENDER EXPRESSION, etc., but these aren’t traits that can be acquired.

In the late 19th/early 20th Centuries, the immigrants were from Europe, so even if they didn’t meet some of the assimilation criteria, they could (with more or less success) hide that shortcoming, and, hell, after a couple generations, no one could tell the difference.

I’ve discussed this with trumpanzees, and when they want to know WHY the “mexicans, the asians, the muslims, etc.” don’t assimilate, I respond “BECAUSE YOU FUCKING WON’T LET THEM!”

regarding Sarah Chung and “one of the good ones”…

“First they came for the Communists…”

Katamount
1 year ago

@Weird Eddie

To me, the obvious problem with this (and it’s been the mainstay of “assimilation” thought for decades) is, THERE IS NO FUCKING “DOMINANT CULTURE” TO ASSIMILATE!!

Bingo. Canada’s a textbook example of this. Setting the myriad First Nations aside momentarily to focus on the old colonial powers, Canada’s foundation as a nation hinged on an uneasy co-existence between Anglican English-speaking pro-Britain Loyalists and Catholic Francophone anti-Britain Quebecois. By Sarah Chung’s logic, the Quebecois should have ceased being a Francophone enclave, spoke English and joined the Church of England, all in the name of “””unity”””.

I linked the Manitoba Schools Question because it’s the most blatant example of the government interfering exactly in that manner. It ended up taking down two Conservative Prime Ministers and resulted in the election of Sir Wilfrid Laurier. I’m curious whether or not Chung is familiar with that shameful chapter of Canadian history (I’m guessing not).

Surplus to Requirements, Observer of the Vast Blight-Wing Enstupidation
Surplus to Requirements, Observer of the Vast Blight-Wing Enstupidation
1 year ago

AFAICT, the Mexicans, the Asians, and the Muslims for the most part assimilate just fine, behaviorally. They get jobs, they pay their bills, they carry on day-to-day business just like anyone else in North America, and mostly are law-abiding, upstanding citizens, and most of them speak English intelligibly.

It’s just there’s a subset of people who still won’t consider them to have assimilated until they also magically turn white.

Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie
Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie
1 year ago

@ Surplus:

That’s the whole problem… until the “immigrants” blend to the point where they are nearly indistinguishable from the “white folx”, they’re NOT REALLY ‘Muricans (or Canadians)

Additionally, if they have any cultural elements that are different from the “McWasps”, they get the “WE don’t want THEM here”

Lukas Xavier
Lukas Xavier
1 year ago

Yet despite all the references to “shared identity” and a “collective memory” with respect to a core “Canadian culture”, it goes entirely undefined!

Of course. If you defined it, it would quickly turn out that nobody actually agreed on the definition.

I’ve noticed that myself, with the nationalists in my country. They crow about national identity and tradition, but they rarely define it (aside from not-so-subtle cues to how important it is to be white).

I think it’s less about what the supposed culture is and more about what it’s not. Specifically, it’s not the same as those people over there.

The fact that those people tend to be brown is entirely incidental, I’m sure.

Cat Mara
Cat Mara
1 year ago

Speaking of pulling up the ladder after oneself, the current British Home Secretary, Priti Patel, is another such: even though she has family members who came to the UK from Uganda in the 70s when Idi Amin’s regime started persecuting Asian people, yet she has been positively unrestrained in her glee at the prospect of halting free movement post-Brexit. Oh, and she was fired from her previous government post for corrupt arms deals; she only owes her political rehabilitation to the fact that Boris Johnson had a very shallow pool to draw from when it came to filling posts in his Cabinet. A thoroughly repugnant individual.

Naglfar
Naglfar
1 year ago

To add to the immigrants against immigration idea:
I work with a man about the same age I am. He is of Armenian descent, and his parents are immigrants from Armenia. However, he is always rambling about how “America is for Americans” and various other conservative talking points. Because he’s bigger than me and somewhat intimidating, I haven’t challenged him by asking about his parents. He’s not the only immigrant or child of immigrants that I know that opposes immigration.

I’m guessing that these people have a mentality of “well, my family did it legally, so it’s different,” which is obviously an elitist mentality. In addition to the racism of his views on immigration, my coworker is also vehemently antifeminist (he might be an MRA) and transphobic, so this is rather in line with his other bigotries.

Betrayer
Betrayer
1 year ago

“Oh those rules will only apply to others, I’m one of the good ones” isn’t just an attitude fascist women adapt, it’s the same mentality that lets Ellen hang around with a war criminal who tried to strip gay people of human rights. Although in her case it’s “I’m one of the rich ones.”

Naglfar
Naglfar
1 year ago

@Jenora Feuer
The comparison to elitist antiabortion activists seems accurate. I would imagine that fascists are antiabortion (at least in terms of white women), seeing as they oppose bodily autonomy.

Fishy Goat
Fishy Goat
1 year ago

@Naglfar:

I would imagine that fascists are antiabortion (at least in terms of white women), seeing as they oppose bodily autonomy.

Unless, of course, it’s their mistress that gets pregnant…. /s

As long as the MENZ decide which woman does what, it’s fine.

Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie
Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie
1 year ago

re: American “dominant culture”

warning: brutal cynicism ahead…

our (white) culture really consists of football (American), bigotry, guns… and a MULTITUDE of cultural elements stolen from other cultures….

immigrants against immigration

I think a lot of it is, “well, I’M here, so I’M good… fuck the rest”… kinda like survivors of a shipwreck kicking at people trying to get into “their” lifeboat

Jenora Feuer
Jenora Feuer
1 year ago

@Katamount:
And Laurier was a wonderful example of the classic Canadian ‘trying to please everybody and pleasing nobody’ aspect. Witness the establishment of the Royal Canadian Navy, which annoyed both the hard monarchists who thought Canada didn’t need a navy because we had England, and the hard republicans/nationalists who thought that Canada should have a real navy capable of holding our own. Never mind that this was during the build-up to WWI, and ‘having a navy’ was a rather contentious international issue at the time.

@Naglfar:
Well, fascists, at least the local ones, are anti-abortion when it comes to poor people, at least. Rich white people can do whatever they need to do. I was about to say ‘poor white people’ because they really don’t mind if black people die so much, but a lack of abortion is also one of the ways to help keep people in poverty, and I suspect for a lot of these folks keeping black people poor so they can be looked down and abused on is more important than potentially reducing the population.

And, of course, what the ‘my family did it legally, so it’s different’ people ignore is that a lot of the people they’re actively turning away now are also trying to do it legally. At least part of Bernier’s approach is basically to fine tune the filtering system to prioritize people who are already rich (even more than they are already). He’s not trying to keep out ‘illegal’ immigrants, he’s trying to keep out otherwise legal ones who can’t bribe their way past the deliberate obstacle course.

rv97
rv97
1 year ago

Let me say that, regarding FeMRAs and anti-immigration immigrants and other conservatives of more marginalized, they’d consider liberals as being “privileged”, and complaining about more minor problems in their eyes. To them, we’d be “attention seekers”.

I don’t know how we can challenge this, although I believe the MRA movement is built around this ideal.

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

I doubt immigrants today are actually assimilating any differently than 19th century European immigrants did. The children of immigrants and immigrants who came here as small children are completely assimilated IME. It’s common for people who immigrate as adults to not ever become fluent in English and to only spend time with fellow immigrants from their home country, but that’s sure nothing new. I have ancestors from Norway who didn’t learn English when they came here.

Catalpa
Catalpa
1 year ago

My grandparents on my mom’s side were German immigrants to Canada, and yet they are vehemently anti-immigration.

I’d say that I don’t understand but I’m pretty sure I do understand. It’s just racism. It’s not that deep.

Ariblester
1 year ago

(Apologies in advance if this gets double-posted.)

Katamount wrote on
October 10, 2019 at 1:33 pm:

I linked the Manitoba Schools Question because it’s the most blatant example of the government interfering exactly in that manner. It ended up taking down two Conservative Prime Ministers and resulted in the election of Sir Wilfrid Laurier. I’m curious whether or not Chung is familiar with that shameful chapter of Canadian history (I’m guessing not).

See my comment above: She’s not even familiar with the history of her birth country (either that, or she is willfully misrepresenting it), so I’d say that in all probability she does not know about Canada’s history either.

Crip Dyke
1 year ago

@Naglfar:

Just for clarity, I wasn’t trying to criticize you at all. Just expanding from where you started and trying to communicate my own feelings of shock.

ObSidJag
ObSidJag
1 year ago

@Naglfar
Re the Armenian gentleman you mentioned: reminds me of an Indian (sub-continent) gentleman I interact with on a limited basis.

He works in a local convenience store I frequent. Everytime I walk in, he’s got Slush Bumbaugh on the radio. I asked him once how he could stand to listen to that drivel.

“Oh, RL’s all right.”

I’ve never asked him if he doesn’t realize that he is one of the types Bimbaugh is railling against and whom he would turn on in a heartbeat if the right circumstances presented themselves.

SMDH at it all– none so blind as those that will not see…