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Incels cry foul after the US Army warns service members about possible incel attacks on Joker movie screenings

Joaquin Phoenix as the Joker

By David Futrelle

In a remarkable memo obtained by io9, the US Army warned service members of a possible plot by “involuntary celibate (“incel”) extremists [to] replicat[e] the 2012 theater shooting in Aurora, Colorado, at screenings of the Joker movie at nationwide theaters.”

The memo, supposedly based on “disturbing and very specific chatter” on the dark web, urged soldiers planning to attend the movie to scout out two possible escape routes from theaters and to be prepared to “run, hide [or] fight” if, you know, someone gets up and starts shooting.

Presumably this advice applies to everyone else planning to attend this particular film as well. Unfortunately, the “very specific” dark web chatter wasn’t specific about which particular theater or theaters would be targeted by the hypothetical shooter or shooters. so I guess just be careful wherever you happen to go.

On Incels.co — the biggest online incel hangout outside of Reddit, where the regulars talk and joke openly about carrying out similar attacks all the time — commenters are crying foul, complaining that it’s unfair to incels for the Army to warn anyone about possible attacks by incels. Even though the people engaged in the “disturbing and very specific chatter” that led to the warning were apparently incels and the movie in question apperently portrays the Joker as something of an incel.

“Huh…we raise our voices a little and everyone loses their minds, imagine if we actually do something,” wrote an extremely prolific Incels.co commenter called JeffGoldblumInTheFly, with more than 6000 comments to his name, apparently forgetting about all the times incels have done “somenthing.”

So this is how normies want it, they won’t help us, they won’t try to change this rotten society to welcome us just a little, no… they will create narratives to make us monsters, they will make people believe we are the next ISIS, even tho all the attacks and mass shootings had nothing to do with incels, but someone need to be the scapegoat, might as well use the ugly one, right?

A commenter called wizardcel, identifying himself as a “transager, lolicon and anti [age of consent] advocate,” added

hahahaha. Guys who can’t get laid are extremists, What a time to be alive. It’s like we’re living in an alternate reality.

A commenter calling himself feces demanded that the military take action against … young girls.

To the intelligence officials reading this comment in the board room, can you take action on the degeneracy young girls are taking part in? Why cant our modern nation ensure a hard working young man gets the chance at creating a family and having someone to love?

In another thread on the same topic, the incels.co regulars blamed the media for writing about incels in the first place.

“Just lol, at this point it just feels like the media actively want [a shooting] to happen and are desperately pushing this idea to get someone to do it,” wrote one site mod.

Other incels took this idea and ran with it, predicting that the media or some other mysterious “they” would soon stage a “false flag” shooting hoax.

“They are tempting fate and for a socially inept and mentally ill individual to be their Scapegoat so they can demonize all Men further,” wrote FlyFace.

Wouldn’t surprise me if there was a False Flag at this rate.. imo it is all their fault anyway.. reporting in such an inflammatory way should be illegal for it will lead to violence. How people let the scummy media do this is beyond me..

But not all incels were willing to play the victim. Alongside FlyFace’s (and others’) predictions of media-organized “false flags,” other commenters joked about shooting “normies.” One of the commenters in the thread even has James Holmes — the actual Aurora shooter — as his avatar.

In yet another thread on the topic, one commenter went further, joking about combining

the existential nihilism and rage of incel jokERrism with the blind moralism and pathological altruism of ecofacism. Let us sweep across the EaRth exterminating the breeders.

“Uprising when?” joked someone called ERadicator, the capital E and R a reference to incel mass murderer Elliot Rodger (as were all those capital ERs in the previous quote).

Elsewhere on Incels.co today, the regulars celebrate their love for misogynist mass killer Marc Lepine, praise Hitler as a “legend,” and fantasize about making “femoids” (women) miserable.

I would be happy to never have to write another post about an incel mass murder. Unfortunately I doubt we’ll be so lucky. Incel ideology is so poisonous, and does such damage to those it infects, that further incel shootings are inevitable; the logic of the incel ideology pushes desperate young men to violence, against others or against themselves. You can’t blame the media, or the army, or the Jews for that. That’s on the incels themselves.

H/T — thanks to everyone who brought this story to my attention.

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Diego Duarte
Diego Duarte
11 months ago

Damn, looks like there are about 30 republican senators who want to impeach Agolf Twitter:

https://www.mediaite.com/trump/gop-insider-drops-a-bomb-on-msnbc-in-a-secret-vote-30-republican-senators-would-impeach-trump/?fbclid=IwAR2VjD76RApyHsvTv2ZgrKrpyFn7-OvgYOdwuUlR5WtlxDXUpL4DNgQ6h5Y

Just wondering how legit the claim might be and whether or not Mitch McConnell will let it happen.

Naglfar
Naglfar
11 months ago

@Diego Duarte
I pray that this this true. And that Republicans who want impeachment can maybe grow spines for once and ignore Moscow Mitch.

Diego Duarte
Diego Duarte
11 months ago

@Naglfar

My understanding of the process, and I might be wrong because I’m not an expert on these types of procedures in the US, is that if McConnell doesn’t call a vote, it doesn’t matter if the remaining 99 senators agree on impeachment.

The only work around would be to have him step down as majority leader, I think.

Naglfar
Naglfar
11 months ago

@Diego Duarte

The only work around would be to have him step down as majority leader, I think.

Is there a way to force him to step down? If 30 senators agree, that’s more than half his party.

Dalillama
Dalillama
11 months ago

Is there a way to force him to step down? If 30 senators agree, that’s more than half his party.

Normally the majority and minority leaders are chosen after each election changes who’s in Congress. OTOH, they have no actual legal authority, or indeed existence. There’s nothing but custom stopping the Republicans from just making someone else majority leader instead (well, and lack of desire). Indeed, McConnell has technically got no authority to do any of the shit he does, legally that responsibility belongs to the President or President pro tempore of the Senate. The former is the Vice President, the latter is currently Chuck Grassley, who has delegated it to McConnell, as is customary. the Senate could in principle vote at any time to replace him, and any Senator could introduce a motion to do so, or he could rescind his delegation and order a vote on the impeachment himself. These things won’t happen, but there’s nothing but inertia and spinelessness preventing them from happening.

Surplus to Requirements, Observer of the Vast Blight-Wing Enstupidation
Surplus to Requirements, Observer of the Vast Blight-Wing Enstupidation
11 months ago

30 Repubs plus all of the Dems in the senate equals a supermajority. If McConnell can be routed around, stick a fork in Trump. He’s done.

Amtep
Amtep
11 months ago

Keep in mind that Trump will still be around. Losing in 2020 won’t stop him from tweeting. Quite the opposite, I expect. Whatever the Republican party looks like after 2020, it will still have to contend with Trump and his base.

Specialffrog
Specialffrog
11 months ago

Amtep: And running a Trump-like campaign will be seen as a viable strategy for other Republicans. All the elements of Trumpism were already present in the GOP anyway.

Diego Duarte
Diego Duarte
11 months ago

Remember he’s committed crimes though, so he won’t be tweetting from jail. Also, Weld said he wants the death penalty for Trump, considering he committed treason, which earns you the capital punishment.

So he’s acting all unhinged now, because the stakes have been raised higher by a member of his own party.

Jenora Feuer
Jenora Feuer
11 months ago

On related news, the police interview with Alex Minassian, the van attacker in Toronto, was just released from a publication ban after the deadline for appealing the decision to lift the ban passed (content warnings all over the place):

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/alek-minassian-police-interview-1.5298021

I have no plans on watching the video, the few audio clips on the morning radio show were bad enough. The guy claims he had been actively talking to Elliot Rodger before the Isla Vista shooting, insisted that he never had a girlfriend because he was ‘too nice’, planned this out for weeks, and only stopped his attack because somebody’s drink got splashed on his windshield and he was worried he’d crash the van without hitting anybody else.

When asked in the video how he feels about the deaths and injuries, Minassian, clad in a white jumpsuit, tells Det. Rob Thomas, “I feel like I accomplished my mission.”

Minassian answered the question in the same matter-of-fact tone he used throughout the interview, whether he was asked about his university course work or the events on Yonge Street that Monday afternoon.

The publication ban got lifted despite the defence attorney arguing it would taint potential witnesses after a Superior Court Justice argued it would be “hard to imagine a witness being called who will not already know that Mr. Minassian drove a van down a Toronto sidewalk killing and injuring many people.”

He’s currently set for a judge-only trial in February, so a tainted jury won’t be an issue.

Dalillama
Dalillama
11 months ago

@Diego Duarte

Also, Weld said he wants the death penalty for Trump, considering he committed treason, which earns you the capital punishment.

i
He hasn’t committed treason any more than he did any the other times people have blithered about it. Treason in the US requires aiding someone the country is formally at war with, which hasn’t happened since 1946

Yutolia the Laissez-Fairy Pronoun Boner
Yutolia the Laissez-Fairy Pronoun Boner
11 months ago

@Dalillama: the Rosenbergs would disagree with you.

Dalillama
Dalillama
11 months ago

@Yutolia
Why? They weren’t charged with treason.

Yutolia the Laissez-Fairy Pronoun Boner
Yutolia the Laissez-Fairy Pronoun Boner
11 months ago

@Dalillama: you’re right, I was misremembering things.

Dalillama
Dalillama
11 months ago

@Yutolia
Understandable, it’s been a long time since anyone was actually threatened with capital punishment for espionage, but it’s still on the books as a capital crime if the prosecution wants to make it one.

Moon Custafer
11 months ago

@ Jenora Feuer:

and only stopped his attack because somebody’s drink got splashed on his windshield and he was worried he’d crash the van without hitting anybody else.

Note to self in case of future van attacks: it’s at least worth a try to throw coffee, milkshake, whatever might block the driver’s view.