By David Futrelle
Western incels often fantasize about solving their no-one-wants-to-have-sex-with-them problem by moving to Southeast Asia where, they assume, they’ll have their pick of attractive, extremely impoverished young women ripe for sexual exploitation.
Incels tend to put it a little less delicately. “It seems that, if you’re white,” one prolific Incels.co commenter called RegisterUserName wrote recently, “the only way you can ascend is through going to Asia and fucking some noodlewhore who’s desperate for a green card … .”
But carrying out this plan would involve moving to, or at the very least visiting, a country far from home, and competing with other Westerners who might be more handsome or at least less objectionable as a person than you, and so for most incels this fantasy remains just that.
But RegisterUserName has some up with some ideas as to how he and his incel colleagues can find similarly poor and/or vulnerable women out there without even leaving their hometowns.
“[W]hen you can’t get what you want with mainstream methods,” he wrote in a recent post, “you have to think outside the box to solutions that have a greater chance of working.”
His suggestions?
Join a 12-step group like “Alcoholics Anonymous or one of those circle meetings to find someone in a rough patch in life.”
Get yourself admitted to a mental hospital so you could “find some crazy bird.”
Start a cult. This might be a bit tricky, as RegisterUserName notes, because you’d “have to be able to be very charismatic and preferably not a turbomanlet.” But if you can pull it off, he continues, you could fill the cult with “girls [who] could be anywhere from 16 (depending on age of consent; obviously don’t break the law) to around 25 or so)” and find yourself your very own Squeaky Fromme.
Join a cult. If actually starting a cult would be too much work, you can always try
Cultmaxxing by leeching on someone else’s cult and finding [a] wife, but be careful that a fellow incel hasn’t made it into a sex cult where he fucks your wife
Exploit homeless girls. RegisterUserName has a somewhat elaborate fantasy of “saving” some homeless teenager, who can’t help but feel so grateful that she “repays” you, her savior, with sex
and then they fall in love with you or something … you gotta have your own house and stuff, preferably be able to fulfill a father like role because she probably had circumstances which led to her never having anyone to be a father … . I think I like this one the most because … you’re actually helping someone so it’s the most morally acceptable … .
Sexual exploitation isn’t “helping,” dude.
Only one of RegisterUserName’s suggestions doesn’t involve exploiting a desperately poor or otherwise vulnerable women. But it does require you commit a violent assault. Yes, we’re talking about the time-honored mating strategy of beating up some cute girl’s boyfriend.
Fight girls’ boyfriends and try to hit on them after. You see all those stories man you never know. (Works best if you’re young, tall, good fighting success. You can snag teenage girls depending on laws in your area so from around 16-25 where they might just get turned on by it and are drunk and are angry at their boyfriends, but it probably won’t be a long term thing ever because, I mean, come on, it’s the type of girl to leave her boyfriend for an ugly subhuman because he got beat up)
As it turns out, RegisterUderName isn’t the only one with fantasies of explaoiting vulnderable girls and women. One of the other commenters, apparently writing from Saudi Arabia, explained that he had
considered … hiring a live in maid and hope she will fuck me to keep her job but that’s nearly impossible to do in Saudi Arabia or dealing drugs and hope one of the tweakers will suck my dick for some drugs but I don’t know anyone to buy drugs from and selling drugs has death penalty here and I’m not ready to die yet.
You know, fellas, maybe if you weren’t the sort of guys who spend your days fantasizing about ruthlessly exploiting desperate women for sex you might be able to get a date with an actual willing woman.
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@weirwood
Hitler tried to change human nature.
Stalin tried to change human nature.
Mao tried to change human nature.
All three are gone. Only human nature remains.
I give this guy 8/10, good grammar, punctuation etc. The arguments about patriarchy=good are totally divorced from my lived reality as a lesbian, but more creative than “Dave’s fat!”
I see others have got the “What makes Incels think they can actually pull these ideas off”, “No seriously, this wouldn’t work out for you the way you think it would”, and “Richard is a horrible, horrible person who attributes his horrible beliefs to SCIENCE!” issues covered.
So I just have to ask:
“Ascend”? Like fucking a woman you think of as a “noodlewhore” is Reaching Enlightenment or something? WTF?
@ Cyborgette: “Faint” is a legit basic human threat response? I always thought it was an attempt to carry out one of the other responses that was foiled by a corset making it impossible to breathe as deeply as an adrenaline rush demanded.
What situations would that be useful in?
Richard,
Interesting you should bring up Hitler. His idea of what roles men and women should have in society was actually the same as yours. He was all about the heteronormativity. If we go by your worldview, Hitler was trying to preserve human nature, but the left got in his way.
Not that name dropping a few authoritarians is much of a counter argument. I guess I should assume you’re conceding that you don’t know anything about biology, anthropology or history? I mean, I can’t help but notice that in your time at WHTM, you’ve shared your assumptions as though they were facts, but never presented even a shred of evidence.
More “proof” I’m not actually a woman. ?
@CAcollins
Absolutely! Lesbians and MRA,s should be allies. Why does a lesbian need laws to bind heterosexual men to her anyway.
The real purpose for the savage divorce laws we have in the U.K. is to make it difficult for men to divorce. If he does then he will lose his children and so on.
Lesbians are the only group of women who do not profit from this.
@Seraph
It’s also called the shutdown response – but that don’t begin with F. 😛 Sort of the common freeze response taken to the maximum possible.
It’s not very useful at all in any situation I can think of, but some people (as well as the famous goats) do just overload and shut down completely at times. Unlike the with the goats, it is neither invariable nor predictable.
Not too common – I’ve seen it happen maybe three times in my life. One were a prisoner, one during a bombing (This one’s the maybe – guy was untouched, well outside the blast zone and just totally out cold), and the funniest from a jump scare in a damned movie. He did NOT live that down.
@Richard
I thought MGTOWs didn’t believe lesbians existed. So now you want to be allies? I get the feeling this will be like that time incels wanted to ally with trans women. By which I mean: no lesbian would want to ally with MRAs.
Richard
Dude, you do realize that until fairly recently, getting a divorce in the UK required an Act of Parliament specifically on your behalf?
Dear Richard is sadly confused. Let’s see if I can help clear things up.
“I am a man and I am in pain because someone I love is gone.” <—- Worthy of sympathy, not mockery.
"I am a man and I am in pain because someone I love is gone. Women shouldn't be allowed to leave men! We should make them financially dependent on us so that they have no choice but to stay in relationships with men, regardless of how those men treat them." <—- Oops, looks like this is a misogynistic asshole.
"I am sad because our system of capitalism means it is nearly impossible for me to support myself and my dependants." <—- A sad reality for many, many people, absolutely deserving of sympathy and concern.
"I am sad because I'm not sure I can support my dependants. FYI, women need to be 'regulated.'" <—- Bit different.
"I feel really awful all the time, and I can't pin my finger on why." <—- Been there. It sucks. Nothing but sympathy.
"I feel really awful all the time. I'm pretty sure it's because women are disgusting sluts." <—- HMMMMM
@Dalillama
And before that, it required splitting from the Catholic Church and inventing a brand new church. At least, that’s what Henry VIII did.
Breathing isn’t an instinct; it’s a reflex.
You really don’t know what the hell you’re talking about, like, at all>/I>.
I, for one, am not into mocking men who express pain.
Now, I might mildly tease men who use pompous language for questionable ends:
In the words (almost) of James Joyce: I will strive to type in the “Leave a Reply” box of my soul the uncreated conscience of my fellow MGTOWs!
Have you actually read some of the things David has unearthed? That isn’t pain; that’s bile and hatred, directed exclusively at women. All women. I see no love behind those words. Do you consider these people your kindred? That’s a toxic environment.
And there are plenty of spaces for men to “vent” without being pulled into the bucket of crabs that is the “manosphere”. r/MensLib on Reddit is one I have frequented (it leans left, but do not let that dissuade you). r/AskMen on Reddit is generally politically-agnostic, at least from the posts I see on the front page. r/relationship_advice and r/AmITheAsshole are good for seeing what not to do in a relationship.
@ariblester
No I do not consider these people my kindered. My reaction is a shudder and ‘there but for the grace of god go I’.
Fortunately I had the gift of introspection. I realised my problem was not women but the notion that the value of a man is exclusively defined through women. It is quite possible for a man to have value without being in a relationship.
This, unfortunately is not recognised by this blog. It is easy to mock such men as they have no defences against it. They hate themselves far more than you could ever hate them! I have even been able to help a couple of them move on and cannot see a downside to it.
@gaybolga
G. All penguins are blue!
R. No. I just saw a black and white one.
G. You did not, you ignorant fool! Penguins are defined as blue flightless birds.
@Richard
See, there you go again, just like you did with the study about plastic bags: you can’t refute what someone actually says, so you make shit up to pretend like you have a point.
As I said, you really don’t know what the hell you’re talking about.
At all.
@dalilama
So I should be grateful for the little I have?
@viscaria
The trouble is that many on this blog reserve the right to decide what a man ‘really’ means- even when contrary to his words.
@weirwood
Hitler was basically a ‘race feminist’. Replace men and women with Jews and Arians and you could not tell the difference.
As I say. A reforming of human nature. All came to nothing.
@Richard
If by that you mean we are allowed to express our opinions and interpretations of someone’s statements, then yes, we do that. David has provided full sources and context, and we have interpreted what is being said and given our opinions. That’s kind of the point of free speech. What here is contradictory to the OP’s words?
Also, WTF is “race feminism”? Hitler was extremely antifeminist, much like most modern day neofascists. I’m pretty sure you can the difference between feminists and Nazis, mainly because feminists are not trying to kill millions of men in gas chambers.
@Naglfar
That’s a funny little quote from Richard, and – given his most recent set of postings – further proof that when dealing with right-wing shitweasels, they almost always accuse their opponents of the crap they’re most guilty of themselves.
Pathetic and deeply limited.
@naglfar
If someone is wrong. Say so, and say why.
Do not fabricate quotes or pretend not to understand.
NB You do this least of all those on the blog.
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…well, you’re a hell of a lot funnier than Sack, I’ll give you that.