Everybody’s favorite malignant baboon of a congressman — Rep. Steve King, R-Iowa — is one of those politician dudes who opposes abortion SO HARD that he even opposes it in cases of rape and incest.
Today, speaking to the Westside Conservative Club in Urbandale, Iowa, he offered a defense, of sorts, of this position, by suggesting that if we erased all the children of rape and incest from human history that we wouldn’t have much human history left — and not many humans left at all.
What if we went back through all the family trees and just pulled out anyone who was a product of rape or incest? Would there be any population of the world left if we did that?
Considering all the wars and all the rapes and pillages that happened throughout all these different nations, I know that I can’t say that I was not a part of a product of that.
Huh. The fact that bad shit used to happen all the time in human history doesn’t mean that we should keep doing that bad shit for history’s sake. Countless women in history were re-traumatized by having to raise children conceived in rape and incest. Let’s maybe leave that in the past, huh?
You can watch the whole horrible thing in the video below.
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Anyone want to start taking bets as to how long it will take Sack to point out how successful Hitler and Mussolini were, no matter what you think of em?
Sack, if there is any integrity left in your brain after FOX News rotted out: this isn’t Red vs. Blue antics. This isn’t like McCain vs. Obama. King is a white supremacist. He has tried to defend the idea that only white cultures have ever produced anything of value. Publicly. Even if you disagree with the majority on this site about abortion, a man with those commitments should have the taste slapped out of his mouth for daring to tell anyone else about right and wrong.
And just remember: next time you don’t like George Soros, or Obama, or AOC, or any other politician or public figure you disagree with… they are “successes” so your criticisms are invalid. Unless you don’t believe the words you say and are just screaming knee jerk abuse into the void. Maybe ask yourself why you have that reaction and if you really want to be so easily controlled by others?
@Sack
The emperor is naked.
Ok suppose we did do that the psychopath gene would likely be gone from our gene pool no more serial killers and a lot less wars. I lot more harmful mentally defective genes would probably be eliminated too (not all rapists are psychopaths).
Yes I know the Warrior Gene as long as we have some wars the side with the most psychopaths wins because they like to kill people so the theory goes .
Or do they? during Viet Nam Dick Cheney, Donald Trump, GOP Chicken Hawks all dodged the draft why psychopaths like victims they don’t like a fair fight.
It just goes to show that you don’t need to be buff or wealthy or even in good health to have some really well-thought-out ideas.
King went on to say:
Look at that: “or of the mother”. He believes that being raped is a sin. No doubt he believes that having to carry the pregnancy to term is punishment for that sin.
@Sack: even if what you said was true, what would it amount to ?
There’s plenty successful incompetent baboon, both in history and currently. There’s plenty people whose talent was recognized only after their death. And there’s plenty obese people who are genius.
Of course, asking you to think is probably pointless.
@Things Come Undone
Genetics doesn’t work like that. There isn’t one gene for evil that can simply be weeded out. Genes aren’t destiny. Personalities aren’t preset, and culture certainly isn’t. Please stop.
He seems to be refuting an idea that nobody put forward, that anyone conceived by rape needs to be erased from the timeline? I’m guessing he thinks this is why we want abortion in cases of rape, because he doesn’t recognise the pregnant person as a person with thoughts and feelings at all.
@Mexican Hot Chocolate
I haven’t looked, but I’m actually wondering if he already has said stuff in denial of the Holocaust. I’m not up for the task of sorting through everything he has said, but it’s possible this is just the tip of the iceberg.
@Sack
I don’t know where you got this idea that weight is linked to being right. I get the feeling you are a fan of Donald Trump, who is obese, yet you don’t seem to believe that he is wrong. On the other hand, I support David Futrelle and I despise Trump because Trump is fascist scum. This is not about weight. It is about what someone does and supports.
In addition, as other commenters have pointed out, Steve King doesn’t seem to have many accomplishments. The only things he did that anyone knows about were things like making comments in support of white nationalism and getting condemned by the House.
It also is interesting that you seem to know David Futrelle’s financial status. I don’t know, but I doubt that he is broke. If he is, he’s clearly still doing more than you are. Let me know when you get published in national newspapers.
If you’re going to troll, at least be a little bit humorous, like that masculist man who showed up a while ago with a very strange distortion of reality. It’s just a sign of lack of creativity when you repeat the same non argument over and over again.
You just don’t get the trolls today we had when I was younger. Back in my day, we had much more entertaining trolls that could display a variety of fallacies. They took PRIDE in being obnoxious and displayed some real craftsmanship in their bloviating. Not like the trolls of today, who think they’re smart just to fling about childish insults. I tell you, there’s no respect for the craft anymore.
Damn kids need to stop playing on my lawn….
@Big Titty Demon
Aka
“There are no curses in Elvish, Entish, or the tongues of Men…
@Things Come Undone
Everything you just said can be refuted by taking half a semester of epigenetics.
It’s also a Lionel Hutz defense:
Buttercup:
Well isn’t that the whole point of authority, that you don’t need to explain others why they should respect you?
Troll:
Argumentum ad adiposem, perhaps? BTW I’d appreciate if someone told me what the proper formulation is.
Re Representative King
What a sorry excuse for a human being. I would attempt to explain the wrongness involved, but the obviousness of it would make it sound like I was talking to toddlers. And toddlers don’t deserve to be exposed to this person’s nonsense.
I’m going to go cuddle my dogs.
Snowberry:
Well said. I also think he was going for the idea that if some people in his (or anyone else’s) ancestor network hadn’t been born, it’d alter history and prevent him (or any other currently existing person) from having been born.
It’s the same rhetorical trick as when anti-choicers ask, “what if your mother had aborted you?”, designed to conflate your current existence with your previous existence as an embyo/fetus. Or in this case, with the potential of you being conceived in the first place.
King shouldn’t extrapolate his behaviour to others…
I’m ace, so I have no first hand experience.
But the vast majority of people is of the opinion that sex is tremendous fun when done properly.
@Naglfar – Donald Trump is not obese because he keeps getting docs to add inches to his height on their reports to bring him into the BMI category of ‘not quite obese’.
But at any rate, obesity doesn’t cause your brain to rot or your views to be less relevant in a democratic society. Which we still, just about, have.
I’m fat, too – and I think Rep. King’s views are repugnant. But I’m quite certain you don’t have to be fat to think so.
@Sack that is such a pathetic effort, dear – surely, surely you can do a little better than repeating one wee dribble of sub-playground invective over and over again?
You could, let me see … you could consider trying to defend one of Steve King’s diatribes. If you think you’re up to it, of course.
I’m pretty convinced at this point that Steve King is a rapist, and quite possibly incestuous. Like Katamount mentioned in a previous thread, this is a very specific defense.
@Rugbyyogi
I was not trying to shame overweight or obese people. I was trying to poke holes in Sack’s reasoning or lack thereof. I know that weight has nothing to do with being right or wrong.
@Sack
Please come up with more interesting antics. Give me something good to mock and debunk.
@Naglfar
You’re making me nostalgic for Scild’s elegant takedowns of the more interesting (than Sack) trolls.
The extra height is just a side effect of bone spurs in his feet.
This troll could be replaced by a very small shell script.
Just swat the bug and move on.
Since no one has yet, I’ll just point out the absurdity of King thinking that rape and incest victims seeking abortion is a new phenomenon. It’s really not. People have been inducing abortion with plants for millennia.
People lived short brutal lives. The last 200 years or so great efforts have been made to ensure that people can live longer and less brutal lives.
But clearly there is a strong element who feel we should continually show our gratitude to our dudebro overlords for these improvements.
@ Nicholas C Kiddle:
I assume this is rhetoric and King doesn’t actually believe abortion is retroactive to the origins of humanity, right?
Also, I’m pretty sure everyone who currently exists does so because at various points in their family tree two people met and married because they were both refugees from the same war or disaster, or because smallpox had killed off their original spouses, or they were making the best of some other bad situation. This still isn’t a reason not to try and prevent or end disasters, wars and epidemics.