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Rep. Steve King: Rape and incest make the world go ’round

Steve King: Just imagine the awful shit bouncing around in his brain

Everybody’s favorite malignant baboon of a congressman — Rep. Steve King, R-Iowa — is one of those politician dudes who opposes abortion SO HARD that he even opposes it in cases of rape and incest.

Today, speaking to the Westside Conservative Club in Urbandale, Iowa, he offered a defense, of sorts, of this position, by suggesting that if we erased all the children of rape and incest from human history that we wouldn’t have much human history left — and not many humans left at all.

What if we went back through all the family trees and just pulled out anyone who was a product of rape or incest? Would there be any population of the world left if we did that?

Considering all the wars and all the rapes and pillages that happened throughout all these different nations, I know that I can’t say that I was not a part of a product of that.

Huh. The fact that bad shit used to happen all the time in human history doesn’t mean that we should keep doing that bad shit for history’s sake. Countless women in history were re-traumatized by having to raise children conceived in rape and incest. Let’s maybe leave that in the past, huh?

You can watch the whole horrible thing in the video below.

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Sack
Sack
1 year ago

No matter how indignant you get, no matter how much you write, the facts are there, stubborn and immutable:

These men are winners – at their jobs, with women, in life.

Redsilkphoenix: Jetpack Vixen, Intergalactic Meanie
Redsilkphoenix: Jetpack Vixen, Intergalactic Meanie
1 year ago

Uhm, Sack, you are aware that Rep. Steve King IS NOT famous horror writer Stephan King, right? While I have no idea who is richer (a fast Google search says he’s worth around 400 million dollars), Stephan has arguably done more for people by writing his stories than Steve has done while in the House.

Plus, I strongly suspect that Stephan would have Things To Say if people stared saying his accomplishments are also Steve’s accomplishments based solely on them both being old rich white men. You know, like how many of the White Nationalist like to claim the accomplishments of random successful white guys as their own based solely on skin tone.

Victorious Parasol
1 year ago

Since we haven’t gotten a satisfactory or entertaining or original or mature answer from Sack, I propose a shift to a more entertaining topic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLMaSII_URU

Weasel-rah
Weasel-rah
1 year ago

Steve King just about admitted, at least in subtext, that no woman has ever laid down with him willingly, and he thinks that’s just normal amirite fellas?
Also, barely upper middle class, and not notable for his accomplishments. As to fit, hard to say. Doesn’t look like any kind of Adonis to me, even for his age, though maybe he can run a marathon as well as run his mouth.
Not much of a winner.

Kevin
Kevin
1 year ago

@ Sad Sack

Married, parent, and probably money wise worth more than you or most of the sorry types we mock here. It’s no great trick, and you aren’t even capable of answering the questions put to you here.

Weasel-Rah
Weasel-Rah
1 year ago

(Also, Watership Down fist bump to all interested parties)

Victorious Parasol
1 year ago

In memory of Hazel-rah! (fist bump)

Big Titty Demon
Big Titty Demon
1 year ago

@sack

He was censured by the House, by his own Republican Party, and removed from all his congressional committee seats because of his heinous remarks. McConnell said he should find another line of work and Romney said he should quit. How successful at his job again?

Talonknife
Talonknife
1 year ago

@Redsilkphoenix

Uhm, Sack, you are aware that Rep. Steve King IS NOT famous horror writer Stephan King, right? While I have no idea who is richer (a fast Google search says he’s worth around 400 million dollars), Stephan has arguably done more for people by writing his stories than Steve has done while in the House.

Plus, I strongly suspect that Stephan would have Things To Say if people stared saying his accomplishments are also Steve’s accomplishments based solely on them both being old rich white men. You know, like how many of the White Nationalist like to claim the accomplishments of random successful white guys as their own based solely on skin tone.

Stephen King actually made a tweet the other day that just said “No, I’m not THAT Steve King.”

Sack
Sack
1 year ago
Viscaria
Viscaria
1 year ago

@Sack

These men are winners – at their jobs, with women, in life.

Which men? Are you one of the winmen? Are you the best at women and also jobs?

cornychips
cornychips
1 year ago

Dude you are cracking me the fuck up. You are gettin reeedickulous and it making this ole stoner chuckle quite a bit.

Hippodameia
Hippodameia
1 year ago

What a tedious little shit you are, Sack. Do you think that if we mock you it’ll magically make you “successful?”

Catalpa
Catalpa
1 year ago

@Kevin

Still living in your parent’s basement are you?

Hey, don’t be derogatory towards people who have different living situations than you. Mind the splash damage. Folks who live in their parents’ basement are fully able to be kind, reasonable, and empathetic people, traits which our troll does not possess.

Naglfar
Naglfar
1 year ago

@Sack
You do know that citing encyclopedia dramatica is like citing the onion, right? Nobody’s falling for it.

Naglfar
Naglfar
1 year ago

Good riddance. What a dull troll.

Lainy
Lainy
1 year ago

@Redsilkphoenix

The first time I read that I thought it was the horror writer and I was like
“no please, I loved it so much” and was actually relieved it wasn’t him.

epitome of incomprehensibility

What a disingenuous jerk, implying that letting women have abortions means discriminating against people who were conceived in violent or coercive situations. Like Catalpa said, it twists causality and it’s cruel.

Plus, since seems a bunch of Republicans aren’t even against rape, people should focus on abortion choice for anyone that’s pregnant. I mean, they already do, but people shouldn’t have to talk about pregnancy from rape as the only situation where someone might want an abortion. What about poverty, health conditions, etc.? What about just let the pregnant person decide?? (Grr at Repubs for this.)

Encyclopedia Dramatica, eh? When I last saw/heard of that it was “edgy” troll content, so it wouldn’t surprise me that it’s gone to right-wing troll content.

As a teenager I liked to read the other wiki-parody site, Uncyclopedia.* They had a running feud going with E.D., a thing that miiight have been
problematically elitist at times (focusing on being better educated and all that), but at least they didn’t have so much vitriol, gross-out stuff, and pedophile jokes. They did have an article calling murder “extroverted suicide,” which was the kind of morbid thing my 17-year-old self would laugh at, but the articles relied more on “random” humour than cruelty. (It’s where I first heard of Theodor Adorno – go figure.)

*Oh dear, I googled and this still exists. I pray to Agnostic God that I won’t get into a nostalgia-fueled time-wasting binge – I need to do other stuff.

Jesalin, Goddess of Lust & Pleasure
Jesalin, Goddess of Lust & Pleasure
1 year ago

That was the most pathetic troll I’ve ever seen. My pet rock could do better.

Cat Mara
Cat Mara
1 year ago

Violence linking to Encyclopedia Dramatica is the last refugee of the incompetent

Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
1 year ago

Sack is like something out of a Greek myth, condemned to sit in a puddle and repeat the same boring, untrue sentence for all eternity.

Alex Miller
Alex Miller
1 year ago

@Sack

Did you seriously just link to Encyclopedia Dramatica? I haven’t been on there since I was in high school 10 years ago dude. You’re a joke,

mildlymagnificent
mildlymagnificent
1 year ago

And that rock in that puddle can’t even claim to Live On The Beach!

::those were the days::

Naglfar
Naglfar
1 year ago

@EoI
I used to waste time on Uncyclopedia too…I hope it hasn’t gone to the alt-right the way Encyclopedia Dramatica has.

tim gueguen
1 year ago

Curses, I was hoping sack would get around to proving my suspicious he looks like a cross between Brad Pitt, George Clooney, and Justin Timberlake. How will I go on?

Prith kDar
Prith kDar
1 year ago

@ epitome:

That’s what drives me nuts about this whole topic. That the Rethugs have successfully shifted the issue towards rape and incest exceptions rather than forced birthing. It’s like, “If we keep trying to exclude rape and incest exceptions, then people will say, ‘Oh, ok, you can outlaw all the rest, but not that!‘” and everyone fell for it.

We need to keep making that point wherever it comes up. This fight is not about preserving exceptions for rape and incest, but preserving abortion rights, period, because women aren’t incubators. We can’t let them keep framing the issue on their terms.

Victorious Parasol
1 year ago

Speaking of doofusy GOP stuff…

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49367792

Trump wants to buy Greenland. Greenland has told him they are not for sale.

Gaebolga
Gaebolga
1 year ago

@Victorious Parasol

Well, it makes sense: after all, Greenland is mostly white…

…I’ll show myself out.

Wetherby
Wetherby
1 year ago

I’m not interested in “doing better” or making you laugh. I’m just reminding you of a simple fact, one you would prefer to ignore: the men you mock are winners. Your leader, David Futrelle, is a loser. Presumably most of his fans are as well.

David isn’t “my leader” – he’s just someone who for much of the past decade has posted intelligent, insightful and surprisingly hilarious (given the topics) coverage of some of the more worrying trends in contemporary civilisation. I couldn’t care less about his weight, finances or connections, as they’re nobody’s business but his own.

Conversely, every time I see Steve King’s name popping up on the interwebtubes, it’s in the context of him saying something appallingly bigoted and tens of thousands of people pointing out that he’s a loathsome piece of shit, which is why his Wikipedia biog includes an entire headlined section on “racist comments”. I similarly couldn’t care less about his weight, finances or connections.

Put it like this: if I was forced to have dinner with one of them, it wouldn’t be the hardest choice that I’ve ever had to make. And I’d be happy to foot the bill, too.

Surplus to Requirements, Observer of the Vast Blight-Wing Enstupidation
Surplus to Requirements, Observer of the Vast Blight-Wing Enstupidation
1 year ago

@Victorious Parasol:

Trump wants to buy Greenland.

I think I’ve figured it out. This “Donald Trump” character is actually a disguise and the man beneath the orange mask is none other than … LEX LUTHOR!

You can print money, manufacture diamonds, and people are a dime a dozen, but they’ll always need land. It’s the one thing they’re not making any more of. In fact, they’ll pay through the nose for it.

It’s Luthor’s classic plot: buy some worthless land somewhere, then cause some large-scale catastrophe that makes it valuable. In this case, buy a giant glacier and then ensure that climate change turns it into prime arable land (with a diamond mine or two, even) while everyone starts starving as the tropics and Midwest dry up and blow away on the wind.

(In fact, I read somewhere recently that in his earliest comic book appearances Superman’s usual villain nemeses were slumlords, operators of unsafe mines, and other commercial crooks. Luthor must have grown from starting as another such villain. And guess who was a New York slumlord before he became national and worldwide bad news? Trump. And his father before him.)

Catalpa
Catalpa
1 year ago

That’s what drives me nuts about this whole topic. That the Rethugs have successfully shifted the issue towards rape and incest exceptions rather than forced birthing. It’s like, “If we keep trying to exclude rape and incest exceptions, then people will say, ‘Oh, ok, you can outlaw all the rest, but not that!‘” and everyone fell for it.

On top of that, there’s not even a logistical way to allow for the ‘in cases of rape’ exception. How are women supposed to prove that they’re actually rape victims? Anti-abortion assholes aren’t going to be happy with a woman being able to go “I was raped” and get an abortion, oh no no no. There has to be proof! And it can’t just be issuing an accusation of rape, because what if later the courts find the man not guilty and then a fetus that didn’t “deserve” to be aborted got aborted? Nope, women will need to wait for their rapist to be convicted of rape before being able to get an abortion. Oh, and look at that, the courts will take too long to convict and now the timeframe for which abortion is allowed has passed. Too bad, I suppose she’ll just have to have that baby.

“Abortion would be acceptable in the case of rape” has always been a lie, and its one that the discourse is way too easily distracted by.

numerobis
numerobis
1 year ago

Victorious: Trump is too stupid to know how offensive his suggestion is, but holy shit. It’s just about the most colonialist shit you could come up with.

Rabid Rabbit
Rabid Rabbit
1 year ago

My “favorite” bit of anti-abortion propaganda has always been the “Do you want to flush away this fetus? Yes? Guess what, you just flushed away Beethoven!” one. I’m constantly amazed that they think this is such a great argument, when it’s so easily refuted by “How do you know it wasn’t Stalin?” Which is an equally idiotic argument, to be sure, but does leave them sputtering and going “Uh… Because Jesus?”

@Surplus:

Well, that would explain his insistence on wearing that nest on his head. Of course, Ivanka’s let out the secret that he’s actually bald, so the suspicion that he’s Luthor might grow.

Big Titty Demon
Big Titty Demon
1 year ago

@Gaebolga

Well, it makes sense: after all, Greenland is mostly white…

I thought the population was like 90% Inuit? Or were you referring to the color of the ice sheets?

I was wondering myself if he was thinking he was trying to buy a white country and just mistaken, or knew he was speculating about buying people of color and how bad it looked from that perspective, or like if he even had a brain at all. The latter possibility seemed the most likely; just nothing in his skull at all. Random farts of air pretending to be thoughts going through.

Allandrel
Allandrel
1 year ago

The idiocy of Luthor’s scheme in Donner’s Superman movie is one of the many things I loathe about that film. Most of it comes down to Mario Puzo being an okay writer at best and an absolutely incompetent screenwriter.

Did you know that when Puzo was hired to write screenplays for Superman and Superman II, his fist draft came out to 500 pages? That’s not two movies, that’s four EPIC movies.

If Puzo had understood anything at all about screenplays as a medium, you would think that when he got to page 50 (midpoint of a normal screenplay) and Clark was still a little kid, that he would have thought hey, MAYBE I should reconsider my approach. When he got to page 110 (end of any normal screenplay) and Clark had JUST put on the costume, he might have thought “this is a complete mess, I should stop writing and try that ‘outlining and breakdown’ process that all those professional screenwriters talk about.”

But no, he kept going to 500 pages. And then, he was so incompetent that, having created a completely unfilmable brick, he TURNED IT IN to his employers. And they, being as incompetent as Puzo, did not immediately fire him, throw the screenplay out, and hire someone who understood the basic mechanics of the medium. Nope, they went “Eh, well just cut out… 300 pages of it, it will be fine.”

Which helps explain how we got a series of films whose only good points were Christopher Reeve’s performance and John Williams’ score – the latter of which they stopped using after one movie.

Prith kDar
Prith kDar
1 year ago

BTD sez:

I was wondering myself if he was thinking he was trying to buy a white country and just mistaken, or knew he was speculating about buying people of color and how bad it looked from that perspective, or like if he even had a brain at all.

I think he may have had a vague awareness that there are some not-European people there, which to him means the place is “uninhabited,” in the same way that North America was “uninhabited” when the Euros showed up. Also, he appears to think Denmark is the sole owner of it, so any government or population that happens to be there has no say in the matter.

Next he’ll be asking Norway to sell us Iceland. It’s so much smaller it ought to be more affordable, right? /s
(to be clear, I know Norway doesn’t own Iceland, and that its most recent ties prior to independence were actually with Denmark. But I’ll bet Trump thinks Icelanders are all Norwegians that emigrated.)

Ariblester
Ariblester
1 year ago

Prith kDar wrote on
August 17, 2019 at 5:16 am:

But I’ll bet Trump thinks Icelanders are all Norwegians that emigrated.

…aren’t they? Well, Norse, so same geographical area but not the same nation-state, and it was several centuries ago, and there has been immigration since, but the population is all interrelated enough that they have a genealogical database to prevent accidental incest… er, what was my point again.

Gaebolga
Gaebolga
1 year ago

Big Titty Demon wrote:

I thought the population was like 90% Inuit? Or were you referring to the color of the ice sheets?

The second one; I have an embarrassing affinity for puns that involve literal misinterpretations.

As for the whys of Drumpf’s desire to buy Greenland, honestly, who cares? The only thing we can know for certain is that it wasn’t part of a coherent or workable strategy of any kind.

Gaebolga
Gaebolga
1 year ago

@Ariblester

Well, according to Wikipedia, Greenland is 88% Inuit – including Inuit/Danish mixed – and 12% Danes and other Europeans, so…no?

Wetherby
Wetherby
1 year ago

I’m just waiting for the day when he tries to buy Scotland, citing his Scottish roots as a reason.

Obviously, he’ll fail, but the reaction from the Scots should be glorious.

Ariblester
Ariblester
1 year ago

Gaebolga wrote on
August 17, 2019 at 6:35 am:

Ariblester wrote on
August 17, 2019 at 5:50 am:

Prith kDar wrote on

August 17, 2019 at 5:16 am:

But I’ll bet Trump thinks Icelanders are all Norwegians that emigrated.

…aren’t they? Well, Norse, so same geographical area but not the same nation-state, and it was several centuries ago, and there has been immigration since, but the population is all interrelated enough that they have a genealogical database to prevent accidental incest… er, what was my point again.

Well, according to Wikipedia, Greenland is 88% Inuit – including Inuit/Danish mixed – and 12% Danes and other Europeans, so…no?

Er, @Prith kDar was talking about Iceland, which is majority Icelandic, who descend from Vikings from the Faroe Islands, what is now Norway and potentially the British Isles. I know that Greenland is majority Inuit.

Gaebolga
Gaebolga
1 year ago

@Ariblester

Oops! Reading fail; my bad, and my apologies!

Ariblester
Ariblester
1 year ago

No big, just didn’t want to be taken for a smart Alec. God knows there’s enough (i.e. one) in the other thread 😄

moregeekthan
moregeekthan
1 year ago

Frith and Inle, I get busy for a couple of days and I miss bag being banned, as well as all the Watership Down content. Best thing I have to add there: my daughter likes to tease me by telling me about all the tatoos she is going to get when turns 18. The other day, she was trying to convince me we should get complimentary tatoos in the style of the mythic stuff from the 1978 Watership Down.