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“Gender Critical” Redditor: Trans women are ruining porn recommendations

It’s positively shocking!

By David Futrelle

Can “Gender Critical” feminists — a.k.a. TERFs — talk about anything without turning the discussion into an excuse to bash trans women?

I was browsing through the Gender Critical feminism subreddit — Reddit’s main hangout for Trans-Exclusionary Radical Feminists —
and ran across a discussion of the ever-more-extreme nature of online porn.

“Stuff from 10 years was your soft porn – missionary, blowjobs, and sure, male orientated but the female had some sort of pleasure at least,” wrote a commenter called DetectiveSpaghetti.

These days the dark stuff (the hardcore youd find ONLY if you really wanted to find) its everywhere. Anal sex, face-fucking, its the norm not the exception. Its disgusting

I don’t doubt that porn is getting more extreme, but anal sex? People have been putting things in their butts for thousands of years, and I’m pretty sure that there were plenty of anal sex videos readily available ten years ago.

Someone called DowntownOrange replied:

Yeah, I went to see what they had in some supposedly soft core/female-oriented category and one of the first vids was something like “skinny teen gets her ***** destroyed by 5 big guys”

She followed up with more results from her, er, research:

I just went to pornhub again to check what they called it and the category name is “romantic”, the first vid is called “Giving her good dick after falling on her Ass In night club”, the third one is “I suck him in the public pool shower and he cums all over me”. Incredible.

She’s got a point, or at least half of one, in that not all of the titles in the “romantic” category are particularly romantic in nature. I just went and browsed the first couple of pages of “romantic” results on PornHub and the titles listed ranged from “Couple have romantic sex” and “Passionate couple falls in love having sex” to slightly-less-romantic-sounding titles like “30-year-old Slav very much asked to work on her fat ass” (huh?) and “Romantic sex leaves her showered in …” well, you get the idea.

It’s at this point the discussion got a little weird.

There’s a separate one “popular with women” that apparently shows the vids that “real women” watch the most. I do wonder how many of those “real women” have dicks though, skewing the results, considering TiMs are obsessed with porn…

Yep, she’s accusing trans women of messing up the video recommendations for cis women with their (presumably) degenerate tastes in porn. (A TIM, or Trans-Identified Male, is deliberately misgendered TERFspeak for trans women.)

I went and looked at the “popular with women” section of PornHub too, and honestly the only particularly weird video I noticed involved someone called Miss Banana taking something called the “Fire Noodle Challenge while getting Fucked.”

I don’t know if it was cis or trans women (or both groups working together) who got that video onto the front page of the “popular with women” category, but I can report that Miss Banana did in fact manage to eat the entire bowl.

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Moggie
Moggie
1 year ago

@Crip Dyke:

I noticed a porn-writing boom in incest stuff a while ago. I think that one of the opportunities provided by incist porn, (and it’s even more true of video porn than written) is that you can say that it’s incest porn by throwing in the stepmom or step sibling labels at some point and then go on with normal porn and for people who want that fetish/kink they feel catered to, but for those who don’t, the fact that they called themselves related at some point in a story/video is easily set aside.

Thanks for your perspective. I still can’t really relate to it, but I’ll just file it under “things I don’t understand about other people’s libido”.

Naglfar
Naglfar
1 year ago

@Katamount
Is it just me, or did Joe D’Amato bear a striking resemblance to Paul Elam?
I think your criticism of American vs European porn is also applicable to American vs European cinema in general. Nobody here seems to be interested in making experimental films when you can instead make a thousand superhero films and make more $$$. I mostly watch foreign films for this reason.

Also, for future reference, my pronouns are they/them.

Katamount
1 year ago

@Naglfar

Duly noted! 🙂

And yeah, ol’ Joe does look a lot like Paul Elam. It’s the beard.

Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie
Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie
1 year ago

I suppose everyone’s seen this, but the comments are priceless….

https://twitter.com/tomilahren/status/1156366940320874496

And… oh, first, content warning: GIRLS PLAYING VIDEO GAMES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/01/tech/ewok-fortnite-soleil-wheeler/index.html

David’s probably ass-deep in the shitty gamergate responses to this….

@ Allandrel:

The All Andrew reply was ‘posed to be a reply to your post… autocorrect is TENACIOUS!!!

Lumipuna (nee Arctic Ape)
Lumipuna (nee Arctic Ape)
1 year ago

“30-year-old Slav very much asked to work on her fat ass” (huh?)

Someone has a fetish for fat-shaming phrases in Slavic languages?

Lainy
Lainy
1 year ago

I had a dream last night that this woman started getting trans porn on ever site she went on because of talking about trans people on other places.

Idk why I had this dream. I think it probably had something to do because I was on pinterest last night. I follow a lot of feminist boards on pinterest, I saw a lot of shit about respecting and stuff that could help trans people and because of that pinterest gives me anything in relation to trans people. Which means I also get so many terf pins that are really horrible.

Cat Mara
Cat Mara
1 year ago

Re: the necrophilia question, I read a manual of human sexual behavior a few years ago that claimed that “pure” necrophiles were extremely rare; it was nearly always only encountered in people with who also showed other extreme personality disorders: think Ted Bundy and Jeffrey Dahmer in the US, or Denis Nilsen in the UK. Though that might just be a reporting issue: such are the taboo surrounding and reverence for human remains in most cultures, anyone with such proclivities is almost certainly closeted, and their activities only come to light if they commit outrages on the scale of the aforementioned individuals. Then again, most cultures have similarly strong taboos around sexual contract with children, yet that hasn’t stopped pædophiles using the internet. I don’t know. This manual was pretty old, as it happens, and had some really regressive things to say about gay and trans people so I’m not sure if it was a trustworthy source.

Cat Mara
Cat Mara
1 year ago

@Katamount: Gonzo porn squicks me out too. I, for one, cheered when that human garbage pile Max Hardcore (one of the preeminent makers of the stuff) was sent to prison a few years ago. A thoroughly loathsome individual.

Naglfar
Naglfar
1 year ago

@Cat Mara
My guess would be that there are necrophiliacs on the internet (I’m not going looking), it’s just we probably put less effort and media attention on them because, well, as gross as necrophilia is, it doesn’t compare to how wrong child molestation is and so police aren’t trying to shut down any necro forums that may exist.
Remind me again what the difference between gonzo and other porn is. Does it just mean the super misogynistic hardcore stuff? Because that stuff makes me sick.

Cat Mara
Cat Mara
1 year ago

Also, @Katamount, re: the Romans and their love of porn: I think a lot of Victorian archaeologists got more than an eyefull when they uncovered the frescoes in Pompeii. And that was before they unearthed the statue of Pan having intercourse with a she-goat (so NSFW) that they locked in a special room for decades that was only opened for– cough– respectable gentlemen.

(Another funny story about Pompeii, particularly in light of the alt-right and general fashy tendency to idolize the Romans as paragons of virtue and enemies of “degeneracy”, was their widely documented practice of anal sex, both straight and same-sex. The former because they had no reliable form of contraception. Apparently, in one of the brothels in Pompeii there’s a sign over one of the couches which would be at eye-level if you were, um, performing that says, “go slow” 😬)

Naglfar
Naglfar
1 year ago

@Cat Mara
I had heard about the Romans having anal sex. If I am not mistaken, they tried various methods of oral contraceptives, but none worked very well.

Moon_custafer
Moon_custafer
1 year ago

@Moggie:

I’m also going with “we can just shoot vanilla porn and claim the performers are step-siblings or whatever.” The other things you mentioned would require special FX to make and/or risk everyone involved getting arrested.

@Katamount:

C’mon, guys, as much as it’s profitable to do endless Marvel movie porn parodies, it’s nice to see something a little more ambitious.

At least two “porn parodies” I’ve heard of– one a Hope-and-Crosby Road Movie thing my husband saw years ago, one a Star Trek piece that vent viral a few years back for the reason I’m about to describe—sound as though they were actually straight-up fan pastiches with some sex scenes thrown in to either circumvent copyright (parody-is-fair-use) or to make them financially viable. I forget the Star Trek “parody” but people on Boing Boing were saying that if you edited out the sex it was a really well-done fan film.

Cat Mara
Cat Mara
1 year ago

@Naglfar: Yeah, “gonzo porn” is that extremely aggressive variety where the woman performer is literally assaulted, verbally abused, spat on, and worse. It turns my stomach, honestly. There is an article in The Guardian by Martin Amis about it that’s extremely grim reading.

Lainy
Lainy
1 year ago

@Moon_custafer

I’m also going with “we can just shoot vanilla porn and claim the performers are step-siblings or whatever.” The other things you mentioned would require special FX to make and/or risk everyone involved getting arrested.

That makes a lot of sense tbh. I’ll admit I’ve watched some of the step siblings stuff not because of the idea they were step siblings but because it was pretty empty of violence and I would just pretend I didn’t see the title. In my own fantasy they are just a married couple or something. Also if both people in it are really attractive I’ve been like “okay gonna give you guys my own back story in my head because the title is gross, this is your very loving boyfriend and your his very loving girlfriend who are not related in anyway by blood or marriage”. Side note when I watch it I was it with sound off so again I can create my own story in my head. I’m more of a erotica reader then a porn watcher because there can be random things that trigger me that weren’t in the description. With so many lonely people in the world I can’t imagine that I’m the only one who does this.

Katamount
1 year ago

@Naglfar

While ostensibly “gonzo” simply means that it’s filmed from a point-of-view shot (taken from Hunter S. Thompson’s “gonzo journalism”), in practice it involves a lot of squicky and arguably degrading closeups in order to titillate the viewer. A lot of content that abuses and humiliates the actress is a direct result of gonzo’s popularity as a genre.

No doubt European producers have their own abusive practices (looking Pierre Woodman’s way), but what they shoot is often more cinematic, which offers a sense of detachment to the viewer, for better and worse.

TheKND
TheKND
1 year ago

@Katamount
There was this one Wizard of Oz parody that was actually pretty ambitious. It had song and dance sequences, they got an little person, adult actress for the munchkin sequence and the Wicked Witch of the West managed to remain green throughout the whole thing.
They also really hammed it up, so it works as a comedy if you just cut out the sex scenes.

Moon_custafer
Moon_custafer
1 year ago

@TheKND:

Yeah, I’m sort of charmed by the concept of alleged porn in which the sex scenes are just there to justify the rest of the movie.

Lainy
Lainy
1 year ago

@TheKND

That sounds hilarious

Talonknife
Talonknife
1 year ago

I saw some SFW clips from an Aladdin porn parody on Twitter the other day that was actually really funny because the whole thing was just incredibly campy and the actors really hammed it up. Some of them really do feel like they were made by competent comedy writers that just ended up in a porn company instead of SNL somehow.

Fabe
Fabe
1 year ago

I saw some SFW clips from an Aladdin porn parody on Twitter the other day that was actually really funny because the whole thing was just incredibly campy and the actors really hammed it up. Some of them really do feel like they were made by competent comedy writers that just ended up in a porn company instead of SNL somehow.

Sounds like the ‘Clerks’ parody, in fact I’m watching a 30 minute edit with all the sex removed as I post this. the people who made it are obviously fans of the original movie.

Rabid Rabbit
Rabid Rabbit
1 year ago

I saw a parody of Kick-Ass once (which, naturally, was called Ass-Kick). It was pretty hilarious, but nothing made it more so than the fact that the performer doing the Nicholas Cage role genuinely managed to get the Cage growl right. The sex was too well integrated into the story for there to be a no-sex cut, though.

Moon Custafer
Moon Custafer
1 year ago

@Fabe:

Are we sure Kevin Smith himself didn’t direct it? 😉

Moggie
Moggie
1 year ago

@Rabid Rabbit:
The sex was too well integrated into the story for there to be a no-sex cut, though.
Please tell me they didn’t sexualise Hit-Girl!

Rabid Rabbit
Rabid Rabbit
1 year ago

@Moggie

Oh, of course they did. If it’s any consolation, at no point did they pretend she was ten.

Allandrel
Allandrel
1 year ago

@Katamount

The use of the term “gonzo” to refer to what is being filmed (degrading or violent acts) versus how it is being filmed (director interacts with the subjects, a la gonzo journalism) seems to come from anti-porn “activists” like Professional Liar Gail Dines.

The industry simply defines gonzo as a filming style – if the director talks to the performers, then a simple striptease video is classified as gonzo.

Dines, and others like her, use whichever definition of “gonzo” suits the purpose of the moment, changing from sentence to sentence and hoping the audience doesn’t notice (i.e. classic Humpty-Dumptying).

There was at least one presentation where she defined gonzo as basically Max Hardcore (his stuff is VILE), claiming that he was the Big Name in gonzo and that all of it was like his product. This is doubly untrue – the Big Name that defined gonzo was John Stagliano, and his work was pretty mainstream in content.

Then, having convinced her audience that “gonzo” meant “Max Hardcore,” she put up stats that showed gonzo was by far the most popular genre the previous year. Except, of course, that she was now using the industry’s stats and thus the industry’s definition of gonzo – which, like I said above, includes things like striptease videos so long as the director converses with a performer.

The audience, of course, was not supposed to notice the deception.

Most of Dines’ for-profit “activism” works like that. In the same presentation, she compared the previous year’s total revenue for the porn industry to Hollywood’s box office revenue. The porn total was somewhat bigger, thus proving that porn was bigger and so “proving” that porn was more culturally influential than Hollywood.

The audience was not supposed to notice that she had compared the total of ALL sources of revenue for the porn industry to JUST box office revenue for Hollywood, which anyone who follows the film industry can tell you is NOT the main source of revenue. She left out all of Hollywood’s other sources of revenue, such as home video, rentals, streaming, and licensing… while including those sources for her porn total. Unsurprisingly, a complete comparison still showed Hollywood eclipsing the porn industry. Hell, Disney’s (non-theme-park) revenue alone eclipses the porn industry.

Allandrel
Allandrel
1 year ago

Two parodies that impressed me:

Wood Rocket’s Bob’s Burger’s parody was pretty unimpressive except for the guy who played Teddy. He was absolutely spot-on in appearance, voice, and mannerisms.

I like when parodies really dig deep into what they’re parodying. There was a series of Star Wars parodies based not on the movies or TV shows, but on the “Legacy” comic book series that Dark Horse put out for a few years that was set over a century after the films. That’s some real nerdery there.

Fabe
Fabe
1 year ago

Oh, of course they did. If it’s any consolation, at no point did they pretend she was ten.

Let me guess they made sure that Hit Girl and all other characters who were minors in the original movie were clearly stated and depicted as being adults .

Naglfar
Naglfar
1 year ago

@Allandrel
Remind me again what Gail Dines’s shtick is. I recall her being over the top in her opposition to porn, but what exactly did she lie about? I don’t remember any of her talking points (which I am sure were fabricated, but I’m curious anyway).

tim gueguen
1 year ago

The comments about search engines reminded me of when Princess Diana died. Some woman got incredibly upset when she entered “Diana, queen of our hearts” into a search engine and got some sort of porn page instead of the results she was expecting. (This was the name of a commemorative plate the Bradford Exchange put out at the time.) She angrily complained that someone had to something about an insult to Diana like that. Thinking about it all these years later I wonder what search engine it was, and if they had any sort of “safe search” settings in those days.

Rabid Rabbit
Rabid Rabbit
1 year ago

@Fabe

I think so. More to the point, given Hit-Girl’s chest size, there was no way they could have pretended she was prepubescent anyway.

paul Michael tidwell
paul Michael tidwell
1 year ago

I happen to be starting to push towards identifying as trans myself and I’m not remotely responsible for the trends towards “Facefucking” or any of it…

I’ve complained before blowjobs are hot for instance but thrusting in the girls mouth I do not understand, you’re supposed to let her do the work in that regard.

the shit i’m into isn’t violent, it’s not necessarily everyone’s taste but violent? not at all.

generally speaking it’s on the amateur side, usually white, and I tend to be into creampies and that sort of thing

honesty mixing Sex and violence is a turn off and if you’ve got a problem with it at this point you’re better off actively consuming so more ad revenue goes towards videos that don’t mix the two…

Hippodameia
Hippodameia
1 year ago

@Allandrel,

So Dines is like the professional version of the “antis” on Tumblr? Gaaaahhh.

Snowberry
Snowberry
1 year ago

I remember reading that Pornhub doesn’t determine the gender of their viewers by the stats of the users who sign up for an account. Because the vast majority don’t sign up, and also people lie. I don’t remember exactly how, though, something involving using Google data to make a best guess I think? Searching for it didn’t help, I wasn’t able to find anything which confirms or denies that.

It’s always possible that something could be messing up the stats, but trans people probably aren’t it.

Snowberry
Snowberry
1 year ago

…Okay, finally found something. I was browsing the Pornhub insights blog and found a mention of them using Google Analytics to determine the gender of viewers. (Coincidentally, it was the trans porn stats entry from 2017.) And also it also reminded me of something that that could mess things up – there’s no “nonbinary” category, so Google Analytics probably sorts them into male and female semi-randomly.

Allandrel
Allandrel
1 year ago

@Naglfar

Dines puts on for-profit “feminist” presentations where she lies about the porn industry (usually through half-truths and omissions like I outlined above) and declares that all porn is rape – but just of women, of course. Why the male performers, who are also being paid to have sex on camera, are rapists rather than fellow rape victims, isn’t terribly clear – unless, of course, Dines subscribes to the patriarchal notion that men will have sex with any woman at the drop of a hat. How very feminist of her.

No idea who is raping the female performers in girl-girl or solo scenes, or whether anyone is being raped in boy-boy scenes – Dines doesn’t seem to think those exist.

Her rhetoric here includes directly telling women porn performers that if they think they consented to their performances, they are WRONG – Dines knows their consent better than they do.

One of the “proofs” that she offers that the female performers are not really consenting is any scenes where the women appear to not be having fun – which basically includes any scene where they make weird facial expressions, i.e. look like people do when they have sex.

“But Gail,” people say. “What about the scenes where the woman’s displeasure is part of the fantasy? Isn’t that just acting?”

“No,” Dines explains, “the displeasure is always genuine because these women are, every single one of them, terrible actresses who cannot fake any non-genuine emotion. If they could, they would be real actresses and not stooping to porn.”

(For someone who claims to want to help female porn performers, Dines displays a LOT of contempt for them.)

“But Gail,” people continue, “You say women never enjoy porn performances, but they frequently do seem to be enjoying themselves, including physical signs of arousal that cannot be faked with acting.”

“No,” Dines explains patiently, “the women NEVER enjoy themselves. EVERY time it looks like a woman is enjoying herself that is acting. They are VERY good at acting like they are having fun even when they are in pain, as this is the job they wanted and they are very good at it.” (This apparently includes controlling their blood flow like a Bene Gesserit.)

I’ll leave it to readers to point out any inconsistencies in Dines’ assessment of porn performers’ acting skills.

Allandrel
Allandrel
1 year ago

@Hippodameia

Very much so, yes. One of her sources of revenue is a “documentary” called “The Price of Pleasure” that she uses in her presentations and also shows at colleges (for profit). This film makes extensive use of clips from porn films without complying with 18 U.S.C. 2257, which is required for any material containing adult content.

Because when you’re a righteous crusader, you can charge people to look at porn without following the laws that govern doing so.

Kind of reminds me of the 911 hijackers hanging out at bars and strip clubs.

Naglfar
Naglfar
1 year ago

@Allandrel
This Gail Dines person sounds less like a feminist and more like a religious right conservative. Much like a religious right conservative, there are at least 3 thing she says that are self-contradictory. By calling herself a feminist, she seems to be actively damaging the movement.
I’d also guess she’s a TERF too.

Allandrel
Allandrel
1 year ago

@Naglfar

Why yes, Dines IS also a TERF! However did you guess?

So far as I can tell, the only difference between TERFs/SWERFs like Dines and the Religious Right is the rhetoric that they use when trying to control women. It’s notable that, while constantly calling each other The Enemy, they are happy to cooperate when it comes to efforts to hurt the Real Enemies – trans women and sex workers.

Part of the reason I loathe these people so much is that I am a Christian and a feminist, and they pervert everything those beliefs are supposed to stand for.

Naglfar
Naglfar
1 year ago

@Allandrel
I just looked it up and apparently Gail Dines is Jewish. As a Jew, I share your frustration that she has appropriated both the religion I practice and a movement I support for her own ends.
The other thing I find interesting is that I thought radical feminism was about destroying patriarchal systems of oppression and rebuilding society to no longer have such structures. Dines’s ideas seem to have nothing to do with overthrowing the patriarchy and everything to do with reinforcing its ideas about female and male sexuality.

ObSidJag
ObSidJag
1 year ago

@Cat Mara (re Victorian archaeologists & Pompeii):
I’d venture to guess the Egyptians also threw a spanner in the works, what with their priapic statues (which, I know, the Roman’s also had) and masturbating mythology.

“Creating the world by self-abuse? I say, old bean, you must’ve mistranslated that papyrus. Do recheck your work. There’s a good lad.”

TMI Warning:
And on the general topic of porn, when my partner (lesbian) & I (bi) were first getting to know each other as a couple, she told me she didn’t watch lesbian porn as “they didn’t know what they were doing” (which I get since a lot of that is geared toward the male viewer).

I pointed out that there’s quite a bit of girl/girl material now that’s written, directed and performed by lesbians or lesbian friendly people, to say nothing of the amateur stuff.

She was still unimpressed. Turns out when, she’s in the mood to “fly solo” as it were, she watches straight porn (but not the extreme misogynistic variety) up until the point it’s about to become “gross” (her word for the “money shot”).

Again, I fully understand this I just found it very interesting.
TMI Warning over.

Leum
Leum
1 year ago

SWERFs neglect of the existence of m/m porn has always irritated me, since a lot of their arguments end up being completely negated by its existence. Of course, on those rare occasions when they do address it they tend to assume that bottoms are effectively women and tops are effectively straight men so…

Rabid Rabbit
Rabid Rabbit
1 year ago

I’m probably going to regret asking, but does she have any opinions on genuine amateur porn, as in videos made by actual couples and not released for money?

Let me guess, in absolutely every case the woman was bullied into it by the man, and then he released the video without her permission.

Moon Custafer
Moon Custafer
1 year ago

Suddenly remembered a Tumblr blog I saw a few years ago that consisted of screenshots of puzzled-looking cats in the backgrounds of their humans’ amateur porn videos.

The best was the woman, presumably trying to shoot a bondage video, whose cat was sitting on her and attempting to chew through her ropes.

Naglfar
Naglfar
1 year ago

@Rabid Rabbit
She probably just pretends it doesn’t exist, like what she does with same sex scenes or solo stuff.

@Moon Custafer
That sounds funny. I assume it’s yet another site nuked by Tumblr’s no nudity rule though, sadly.

Rabid Rabbit
Rabid Rabbit
1 year ago

@Moon Custafer

There’s a gif somewhere out there of a dog trying to nose in on someone giving a blowjob. The cold nose effect is obvious and hilarious.

ColeYote
ColeYote
1 year ago

Christ, no wonder they hate BDSM practitioners so much if they think anal is some dark and/or extreme stuff.

Lainy
Lainy
1 year ago

@coleyote

They have sierous case of really loving vanilla sex and thinking that everyone should love it just as much as them.

Naglfar
Naglfar
1 year ago

@ColeYote, Lainy
I’m also curious as to their stance on femdom. My guess would be they either don’t think it exists or that the man has pressured the woman into it and that actually she hates it.
Also, what do the SWERFs think of lesbian BDSM? I imagine they yet again deny its existence.

Lainy
Lainy
1 year ago

@naglfar

I got into a huge fight with one of these people onces. She used to do bdsm and was a dominated woman for men. She later discovered she was a lesbian and talked about that her having complete control over a man while having sex was a copy mechanisms for repressed sexuality. Now that she’s come to accept herself she had a girlfriend and has only vanilla sex with her and is happy. That would be great for her if she hadn’t started saying this all with “women in bdsm are kidding themselves. Your all traumatized broken women like I was who don’t know what you actually want so I’m going to tell you what you want” so that was one hot take.

Me? I can’t argue with these people any more because I’m a rape victim who was a virgin at the time of my rape. They throw that back in my face at all times. Any sex I do that doesn’t live up their image of a poor traumatized little girl who was brutally attacked doesn’t fly with them. Sierously I think they expect me to cry every time I have sex. After standing up and arguing with those people I’ve given up because they really do give me they feeling that they want me to have only vanilla sex, maybe just with a woman, and I should be so soft and timid that it should only be with a person I love that holds me because I have to cry about my traumas after it. Sierously how they treat rape victims that don’t live up to their standards is gross.

Surplus to Requirements, Observer of the Vast Blight-Wing Enstupidation
Surplus to Requirements, Observer of the Vast Blight-Wing Enstupidation
1 year ago

It’s like they want rape victims to be emotionally crippled for life, and are offended if a victim more-or-less recovers and is able to have normal levels of enjoyment and etc. … now I wonder why that might be? 🙁