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Stop conflict at work by making women wear an LED to warn everyone when they’re on their period, Reddit dork proposes

Careful, fellas, she’s raggin it today!

By David Futrelle

Attention vagina people! Turns out your regular vagina processes are disrupting the efficiency and well-being of everyone you work with, in that every time Aunt Shark Week stops by for a visit you get all crabby and start fights with everyone else.

That is, in any case, the worry of one Reddit dude — who has, happily for us, provided a solution to this problem: Have working women (sorry, “females”) wear some sort of LED device to warn everyone else they’re on the rag! Or maybe, like, a red necklace?

Females with sensitive menstruation should share their monthly calendar with colleagues self.unpopularopinion

submitted just now by foadsf

I know I will be toasted for this idea but I have to share it.

I know some females have more sensitive menstruation and their personality and anger threshold is prone to their hormones. That's absolutely fine. that's part of females nature and as a male human being I am all respectful for that. But at the same time we could be victims of fights we have no idea about.

Females could share their monthly calendar with other colleagues in one way or another and they could just avoid any arguments in certain times. If they are not comfortable saying in words, there could be some sort of wearable LED to sync its color with specific times. or they could have some sort of dress code, like red necklaces or bracelets or something.

I'm sorry that I'm sharing this idea and know females won't like it but it could be really helpful for everyone.

Foadsf, well aware that his idea probably wouldn’t go over too well with anyone, not just the “females,” posted it in the Unpopular Opinion subreddit, where it proved so unpopular with the subreddit’s mods that it was quickly deleted. (I found a screenshot in the NotHowGirlsWork subreddit and tracked down the original.)

I’m thinking of getting a t-shirt made to express my solidarity. I mean, as a cis dude I don’t get periods, but there are certainly days when I’m in a terrible mood. A t-shirt with some helpful slogan like “I’ve got a case of the grumpies,” or “Havin’ a cranky one!” could do wonders for office morale here at the Mammoth Institute, or at least it could if my co-workers weren’t just a couple of cats who cannot, as far as I can tell, read.

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Fishy Goat
Fishy Goat
1 year ago

Monsieur Foadsf might find that, because of his ‘winning’ personality, his feeeeeemale coworkers would have their LED light up whenever they’re around him.

*shakes head*

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

I’ll just wear a red light permanently, regardless of where I am in my cycle if it’ll keep misogynists away.

However, since men like to tell us how angry and dare I say, emotional sexual frustration makes them, I propose that in the interest of fairness, men should have to wear lights if they gotten laid recently.

Tabby Lavalamp
Tabby Lavalamp
1 year ago

Perhaps we can have a device attached to straight cis men so that when they’re getting a little horny in the office we’ll know to avoid them as that affects their otherwise impeccably logical and reasonable selves?

kupo
kupo
1 year ago

“As a male human being” is absolutely not what an alien would say to convince us he’s really one of us.

Moggie
Moggie
1 year ago

How do you do, fellow male human beings!

Lainy
Lainy
1 year ago

Hell a little alarm should go off with the male when it tells us their horny. Lord knows that’s a lot more dangerous then a period. Men murder when their horny of course and use it at an excuse. I’ve never seen a woman murder someone and claim it was because her period. Well not in real life anyways, saw an episode of law & order svu where some girl did that.

Anonymous
Anonymous
1 year ago

Speaking of periods and shark attacks, turns out sharks aren’t particularly attracted to period blood. Or any kind of human blood, at that matter.

https://www.popsci.com/surfer-period-blood-shark-attack/

So there’s that worry dealt with.

Moggie
Moggie
1 year ago

Number of times I’ve got into an argument with a feeemale co-worker because of a visit from Auntie Flo: zero.

Dude, if you’re frequently getting into fights with women, maybe it’s you?

Lainy
Lainy
1 year ago

@Moggie

Of course not, then he would have to take responsibility for his actions like an adult.

Nick Kiddle
Nick Kiddle
1 year ago

How’s this going to work for trans people? As a trans bloke, will I be obliged to wear a menstrual indicator, or can I safely be around people when Uncle Flo comes calling? And will trans women just designate their most stressful week their period so they don’t stand out? (I don’t think these blokes have enough awareness to realise some women never light up red, but why take the risk?)

Big Titty Demon
Big Titty Demon
1 year ago

I bet this genius idea would totally solve the problem though. No one would ever accuse women of tampering with their lights if they got in an argument during the off weeks. They would just be all “hmm, well, you are not on your period so you must be thinking with only cold logic, and I am probably in the wrong.” That’s definitely what would happen. 100%.

Simon
Simon
1 year ago
Lumipuna (nee Arctic Ape)
Lumipuna (nee Arctic Ape)
1 year ago

How does one avoid picking fights with female colleagues during the red alert period? I mean, other than not being an asshole generally?

Rhuu - apparently an illiterati
Rhuu - apparently an illiterati
1 year ago

I know there are more violating things, but this feels so violating. No one deserves to know the *interior, private workings* of someone else’s body. No one.

And doesn’t PMS usually happen *before* the period starts? ‘PRE-menstrual-symptoms’, I believe?

I’m sure the symptoms continue throughout for people, our bodies are never the same, but like… This idea is just bad, except in using hindsight, I guess?

Also… If anything a womz says while she has her period indicator light on is basically disregarded as ‘illogical’ and ’emotional’, do womz now get paid to stay home? If they can’t contribute at all during that week?

(Note: Not a good solution. Having half of your workforce taking a week off would put them as ‘lesser’ in your workforce. You wouldn’t assign anything important to them, and it would just be bad all around. But what else would you do, where women are incapable of doing anything during their period?)

The idea that heightened emotions make one incapable of thoughts or expressing opinions is just terrifying. PMS doesn’t create conflict or emotions out of nothing, it just heightens what is already there.

If you’re getting into fights, OP, it’s becuase you’re a shit head and the people you’re dealing with have less patience with you than they normally would.

And blaming their reactions on their raging hormones just sort of proves the point.

Victorious Parasol
1 year ago

Speaking as a person with a uterus, sometimes I’ve had bad moods that are connected to it being Shark Week. Sometimes the bad moods are connected to it being the week before Shark Week. Sometimes the bad moods are because people are being idjits.

Most of the time I’ve been able to hang on and wait to vent with a sympathetic person. What I’d really like is a button that could make other people respect boundaries – not just mine, but everybody’s. I’d probably break several bones ‘cos I’d hit that button so hard.

Robert
Robert
1 year ago

After all this time, I am still taken by surprise at how bizarrely squicked some men are by menstruation.

I worked in an office for twenty four years, and I don’t recall ever wondering if any of the women I worked with were menstruating or not.

Lainy
Lainy
1 year ago

I’m moody on my period because I get really horrible cramps and or migraines that make want to throw up.

Viscaria
Viscaria
1 year ago

But at the same time we could be victims of fights we have no idea about.

Women keep getting mad at me! It must be their irrational hormones and not the fact that I’m the kind of guy who would suggest that everyone who menstruates be forced to wear a sign to tell me about what’s currently coming out of their bodies.

TheKND
TheKND
1 year ago

Thank you, Great Nagus. We’re always happy to hear the “human male” perspective.
Now as for giving every FEEEEEEmale a literal flood-light (I am not sorry for that one), can’t we just… you know… always be respectful and maybe, when there is a bit of aggression in the posture, ask why and be supportive and all that nice stuff that would be good for both genders?
Let’s now hear it from our Klingon ambassador….

Katamount
1 year ago

@TheKND

Let’s now hear it from our Klingon ambassador….

Writch Codex
1 year ago

“… as a male human being I am all respectful for that.”

Yeah, you’re so “respectful” of the monthly burden of a menstrual cycle that you didn’t suggest something to alleviate it like, say, more medical research into menstruation and conditions like endometriosis. No suggestions for ways to make these things more bearable for the overwhelming amount of people who have to deal with a lot of agony every month around their body’s functioning, and therefore may have a shorter fuse because of the pain.

No, that isn’t respectful enough, clearly. The MOST respectful idea is making women and transmen wear literal blinking signs that misogynists will use to justify taking them even LESS seriously than they do normally. Fabulous.

Also, hi. I’m new-ish. Lurker for years. I THINK I might have posted before a long time ago, but I don’t remember for sure. *thumbs-up*

Otrame
Otrame
1 year ago

“PMS is that time during a woman’s menstrual cycle during which she behaves the way men behave all the time.”

Robert A. Heinlein

kupo
kupo
1 year ago

@Otrame
Cute quote, but Heinlein is a misogynist. And benevolent sexism is still sexism. 🙂

Michael
Michael
1 year ago

I am surprised he didn’t suggest a little scarlet M or P.

Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie
Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie
1 year ago

Heinlein is a misogynist.

*was* — he’s 30 years dead. He had a literary “sense” of THINGS that was as big as the universe, and a literary “sense” of LIFE too small to be described by quantum physics. His “aliens” were always human(oid), and his humans were always American. He had many, many very strong female characters, but they were all drawn the literary equivalent of “superheroines in bikini armor”…. Such a talented storyteller, but as far as socially prescribed gender expression goes, he just didn’t “GET IT”….

and be supportive and all that nice stuff that would be good for both genders

STOP that!! … shit catches on, we won’t even have any more trumpanzees….

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

There are physical states besides PMS that make you cranky. Tired, hungry, hot, cold, in pain, etc. Why not have a complicated color coded system of lights where we all flash whichever one applies?

kupo
kupo
1 year ago

@Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie
Oh my God. Please don’t pick apart my grammar. Sorry I used the wrong goddamn tense.

And I completely disagree that the was a talented storyteller. But then, I find writing characters well to be an extremely important part of storytelling.

La chienne
La chienne
1 year ago

While I wouldn’t want to show it to anyone and I hate to give misogynists credit, I would love to own a device that would tell me what the hell was going on with my menstrual cycle. I would ruin less underwear.

sunnysombrera
sunnysombrera
1 year ago

weirwoodtreehugger: turn off the house lights, add a bit of techno and you could have yourself a nice office rave going on there.

Squash
Squash
1 year ago

I once worked for a company with a majority female staff. One of the male supervisors actually kept track of his employees cycles.

Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie
Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie
1 year ago

@ kupo;

Apologies.

I agree about the character depth, and Ol’ Man Dan sucked in that respect. I’m not much of a Heinlein fan, but I guess what I remember of his storytelling was the Ananog era of the 50s/60s. I ran with a grade school crowd of techno-nerds simply glued to the space program, and the sci-fi novels thereabout.

Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
1 year ago

Females with sensitive menstruation should share their monthly calendar with colleagues
Certainly my menstruation is sensitive, just like the rest of me.

submitted just now by foadsf
Oh . . . is foad from San Francisco? And that means I might run into him on public transit?

I know I will be toasted for this idea but I have to share it.

Toasted? No one’s going to raise a glass of bubbly to your brilliant idea.

I know some females have more sensitive menstruation and their personality and anger threshold is prone to their hormones. That’s absolutely fine. that’s part of females nature and as a male human being I am all respectful for that.

Aww, so nice to encounter a male commenter who’s super respectful of female human beings.

But at the same time we could be victims of fights we have no idea about.

So very true. I once reached up under my skirt and into my underwear, pulled out my bloody tampon, and flung it at a male co-worker who asked me the time. (Sorry if that turns you on, foadsf.) So I certainly understand what you’re saying. Good point.

Females could share their monthly calendar with other colleagues in one way or another and they could just avoid any arguments in certain times. If they are not comfortable saying in words, there could be some sort of wearable LED to sync its color with specific times. or they could have some sort of dress code, like red necklaces or bracelets or something.

This is a great idea. And maybe something similar for the male human being leaders who are so tense and edgy that they get us into wars for no good or moral or even legal reason. I’m thinking maybe a scarlet letter acronym: WBAWCIGHAC (Would Be a War Criminal if Given Half a Chance).

I’m sorry that I’m sharing this idea and know females won’t like it but it could be really helpful for everyone.

More respectfulness. I’m melting with gratitude.

Prith kDar
Prith kDar
1 year ago

weirwoodtreehugger sez:

Why not have a complicated color coded system of lights where we all flash whichever one applies?

Plus we could all do something like this whenever we meet another person in the corridors:

cubist
1 year ago

It’s worth noting that Heinlein was born in 1907—seven full years before WWI began. Dude had his issues, no question, but he was pretty damned progressive, considering. Certainly a hell of a lot more progressive than his fiction might lead you to believe, because he had to get his stories past editors like John W. Campbell…

Otrame
Otrame
1 year ago

@kupo

*sigh*

Yes, of course Heinlein was a sexist. So what? Please name me one person writing in those days that wasn’t.

I forget which of the Eight I’d Really Rather You Didn’ts said, “Purity is for water, not human beings,” but I agree with it, if only because when you demand purity from humans you are asking the impossible.

I can’t help wondering. In your mind, should people not read anything written in the past? Who would you recommend we read from the 40s-70s, or, honestly, at any time in the past, who wasn’t sexist. Name one.

Otrame
Otrame
1 year ago

@Cubist

Exactly.

He was more than a little libertarian, too, which is a considerable sin in my book.

However, while he was a sexist, he was not a misogynist. Those words are not interchangeable.

kupo
kupo
1 year ago

Yes, of course Heinlein was a sexist. So what?

So….that quote is sexist. So we don’t need to praise sexist people on here for their sexist reductions of half of the population’s hormonal fluctuations. Nor do we need to shrug off sexism (or racism or what-have-you) because of the time period it came from.

I can’t help wondering. In your mind, should people not read anything written in the past? Who would you recommend we read from the 40s-70s, or, honestly, at any time in the past, who wasn’t sexist. Name one.

JFC, where did I tell anyone what to read? Fucking quote me on it. I can’t point out sexism on a fucking feminist blog now because your sci-fi author hero is untouchable?

However, while he was a sexist, he was not a misogynist.

Really?

mi·sog·y·ny

noun
dislike of, contempt for, or ingrained prejudice against women.

He had an ingrained prejudice against women. Are you claiming he did not?

FFS, when did it become wrong to call out misogyny on here?

cubist
1 year ago

Strongly suspect that Heinlein would have given the current American flavor of Libertarianism a big horselaugh as he tossed it in the dumpster. One of his earliest published stories, Lifeline, was about a lone inventor who created an infallible method of predicting anyone’s date-of-death… and how the insurance industry tried to harass and sue that man out of existence. The judge in the story had some pointed remarks about how it wasn’t the government’s duty to ensure that rich people stay rich. Not exactly the sort of thing you’d expect from people who presuppose that Big Business Can Do No Wrong, you know?

Remember, we’re talking about a dude who predated AmLib by a few decades; it may not be prudent to presume that the current connotations of the term “Libertarian” apply to him. As for Heinlein being a misogynist, Spider Robinson has something to say on the subject (and if you have any interest in Heinlein, the entire rest of the essay is worth reading):

I think one could perhaps make an excellent case for Heinlein as a female chauvinist. He has repeatedly insisted that women average smarter, more practical and more courageous than men. He consistently underscores their biological and emotional superiority. He married a woman he proudly described to me as “smarter, better educated and more sensible than I am.” In his latest book, Expanded Universe… he suggests without the slightest visible trace of irony that the franchise be taken away from men and given exclusively to women. He consistently created strong, intelligent, capable, independent, sexually aggressive women characters for a quarter of a century before it was made a requirement, right down to his supporting casts.

Kevin
Kevin
1 year ago

So foadsf, have you just been reading La Dame aux Camelias/Camille ?

Big Titty Demon
Big Titty Demon
1 year ago

@Squash

That sounds horrifyingly invasive, how did he know unless he stalked the bathroom?

@Prith kDar

That video made me unreasonably happy and laugh so hard. Plus, I would be down with didgeridoos playing out the PA every time I walked down the hall.

Citerior Motive
Citerior Motive
1 year ago

As for Heinlein being a misogynist, Spider Robinson has something to say on the subject

Spider Robinson’s writing displays a lot of the same weird pseudobenevolent sexism as his late mentor’s. I wouldn’t necessarily trust his objectivity on this.

Valkyrine
Valkyrine
1 year ago

@cubist

He consistently created strong, intelligent, capable, independent, sexually aggressive women characters for a quarter of a century before it was made a requirement

What “requirement” is he talking about? Wtf does that mean?

Ellesar
Ellesar
1 year ago

I once wore multicoloured leds in Edinburgh during the festival while I was cycling. That was fun.

But hey, why leds for bleeding times? Why not just a symbol (red triangle perhaps) or a lovely red outfit like a handmaid?!

not clever enough for a cute screen name
not clever enough for a cute screen name
1 year ago

I inhaled all of Heinlein’s books when I was a preteen, back in the 60s/70s. I am pretty sure reading those was what made me unjudgmental of others’ sexuality, but even at that age, I realized the shallowness of the female characters.

Back when I was still having periods, the time just before and 3 days into it would be the times I was able to assert myself. This worked well at work, but was totally discounted by the person I was married to (well, until I divorced him).

ObSidJag
ObSidJag
1 year ago

Wait–aren’t these some of the same jackwagons who swear they can smell a nearby Va-jj?

With a sense of smell that acute, you’d think they’d “catch wind” (as it were) of any passing coworker @ the appropriate time of month 2 steer clear, but, hey, wha’do I know?

PS: if I’ve already been ninja’d by a previous poster, I apologize, but I haven’t read all the comments.

Katamount
1 year ago

Tangentially related to lights/LEDs for staying visible at night, I remember seeing a kid on my bus route who had a backpack with one of those Ampelmännchen reflective keychains.

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I only recognized it because I had read the Wikipedia article for Ostalgie, which is nostalgia for East Germany. The article has an image of one of the iconic Ampelmännchen (little crosswalk man), who was the crosswalk signal shape unique to East Germany.

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I thought the keychain was really I looked up how much one of those keychains cost. 7 Euro! That’s like 15CAD for a piece of reflective plastic! Bloody capitalism! Grrrr!

Viscaria
Viscaria
1 year ago

That Spider Robinson quote seems pretty sketchy to me. It is possible for a misogynist to respect his wife. Lots of bigots make exceptions for the people who are close to them. It is also not “female chauvinist” to hold women to different standards than men. That’s one of the classic ways misogyny operates.

Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie
Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie
1 year ago

re: Heinlein, beloved media and “blatant-isms”

One of the things I loved about Anita Sarkeesian’s “Tropes vs Women” series was her contention that we CAN love media even though it is problematic. It is, however, incumbent on us to recognize the problematic aspects of that media, and to avoid “defending the media in spite of” the problematic aspects of it.

Regarding Heinlein, and to an even GREATER extent, Spider Robinson, yeah, they both had definite problems with women, and those problems are inherent in their writing. Heinlein always had to describe his characters physically, and, for example, Belle Darkin (Door Into Summer) was “… streamlined for about Mach 3… displayed frontal-mounted radar housings…” … Wyoming Knott’s (Moon Is A Harsh Mistress) description, while it DID have a definite bearing on the story line, was very objectifying.

Robinson’s treatment of Rachel in the Callahan’s trilogy (sorry Spider, there’s three of ’em, it’s a trilogy) was frankly unforgivable. A considerable amount of Spider’s defense of Heinlein (cited above by cubist) hinges on a distaste for what would later be called “Political Correctness”… again, I really loved the Callahan’s stories.

One of my favorite Heinlein stories was Starship Troopers. Though not so much misogynist, as there were almost no women characters, and his treatment of Carmen Ibanez was (as I remember) pretty good, the book had an undercurrent of fascism which Heinlein treated as “just another way of running a society”. It would have been easy for him to call out the fascist ideas, but he chose not to. I can, if I choose, simply accept THIS as literary license, but I choose, instead to call him out on it. Nonetheless, I still like the story, and it does have a great deal more depth of character than Moon, Double Star, or some of the others (to my eternal shame, I never read Stranger.)

Starship Troopers, incidentally, earns MY nod for “Movie Which Demonstrates Most Effectively That The Screenwriters Never Read The Book”….

Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie
Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie
1 year ago

Regarding Heinlein as a “product of his time”, as Otrame and cubist argue above, does that, then EXCUSE the bigotry? We read Darwin’s work on evolution and natural selection, and we are aware of Darwin’s ill feelings toward some of the indigenous peoples he encountered. We DON’T excuse the bigotry as a product of the time period, though.

… and wow, did I ever take us down the rabbit hole….

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Katamount
1 year ago

@Weird Eddie

I’ve watched a couple analyses of the film Starship Troopers and I think the most cogent one was the idea that Paul Verhoeven made the movie as if it was an artifact of a right-wing fascist future and presented it the world, as if saying “This is the kind of movie that a fascist society would make.” A vapid teen love triangle with three perfect-looking white people. Unflinching praise of the state. No actual conclusion of the conflict being portrayed. Even in the infamous shower scene, the naked young people don’t even get horny for a second, they just talk about how awesome citizenship is. In 1997, before 9/11 ramped up the militarism, nobody knew what to make of it, but now everyone’s like “Yeah, that’s where things are going.”