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Incel jerks off to a grisly photo of a murdered girl, claims he sent the resulting “cum tribute” to the girl’s mother

Bianca Devins, RIP

CONTENT WARNING: This one is just brutal. If you’re feeling even the slightest bit queasy about the headline, please don’t read any further.

By David Futrelle

Sunday morning, a young man named Brandon Clark allegedly murdered 17-year-old Instagram “e-girl” Bianca Devins, apparently a friend of his, brutally slashing her throat and then slashing his own in an attempt to kill himself. Sometime between the murder and the attempted suicide, he took a photo of her bloody body and uploaded it to 4chan.

The photo quickly spread across social media, including the Incels.co forum, where it was evidently found by a commenter calling himself canino1997, who reacted to the horrific tragedy by masturbating to the picture of Devins’ lifeless body and sending a picture of the resulting “cum tribute” to the girl’s mother (or perhaps her stepmother) as a sort of ‘”lesson” for her.

I did send her mom my condolences together with a cum tribute to the bitch getting rekt. She died coz she was a thot and I hope that she takes this as a lesson on how hard she failed at parenting.

He attached a screenshot of what he said were the messages he’d sent to the mother along with his “tribute.”

Naturally, other incels applauded canino1997’s initiative. “[Y]our doing god’s work,” wrote one commenter. “Based as fuck,” added a second. “Based kikebook Stalkercel,” agreed a third, which is the Incel way of saying he thought that canino1997 is was an excellent Facebook stalker.

On Facebook, Bianca’s stepmother didn’t say anything about
canino1997’s particular act of malicious harassment, but she did post at length about the anguish of seeing the photos of her stepdaughter’s corpse — an anguish amplified by the knowledge that countless strangers were passing the pictures around in an attempt to shock others and, in some cases, to garner new Instagram followers.

It is absolutely disgusting that people are sharing, screenshoting the pictures of Bianca’s (tragic) death!! Wtf is wrong with you people!!?? … I will FORVER have those images in my mind when I think of her. When I close my eyes, those images haunt me. …

Imagine sitting there, in disbelief and praying to God that this is all some mistake and that your baby will walk through the door any minute. Now imagine seeing those pictures and having everything in you break. Imagine not even being able to yell out and scream or cry because your soul has now just been broken.

After writing this blog for eight years, and watching the political developments in the US over the last three, I can’t say I still have a lot of faith left in humanity. But discovering the incel and his “cum tribute” hit me like a punch in the gut; in some ways it feels as gratuitously cruel as the murder itself.

There’s a lot more to say — none of it good — about this case and the assorted reactions to it online. But I will save that for later posts.

NOTE: Canino1997’s original post was taken down by the Incels.co mods, though evidence of it remains in the responses to it from other commenters. I borrowed the screenshots from a post in IncelTears, a subreddit devoted to monitoring and mocking incels.

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Pyxxxie
Pyxxxie
2 years ago

Excellent points, @Surplus.

It’s better to use anti harassment laws than criminalize the possession of death photos. But part of the idea is also to force websites to take swift action to remove such material ASAP and ban individuals involved. And there have to be some very real legal consequences to the individuals who engage in this behaviour.

Lainy
Lainy
2 years ago

@Gaebolga

Who’s tom Selleck?

Gaebolga
Gaebolga
2 years ago

I am old, I am old
I keep the bottoms of my trousers rolled…

@Lainy

He’s an actor who has a rather lush mustache. He was big in the ‘80s, especially for his role as the original Magnum P.I.; he’s currently the lead on Blue Bloods.

He used to be considered a heartthrob.

But only if you were into mustaches.

Lainy
Lainy
2 years ago

Gaebolga

Oh the blue bloods grandpa. yeah I know him.

Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
2 years ago

I just believe looks matter the most.

So do we! All of us, all Mammotheers. That’s why you’re not welcome around here. We’re pretty sure — and yeah, I do speak for all Mammotheers — that you’re a 2 on the Hot Babe Scale.

What — you didn’t know that there is a Hot Babe Scale for men.

Incel157
Incel157
2 years ago

@WTF Thanks for the words but I’m already old, your advice is perhaps good for the teenager normal looking “incels” who are really just insecure.

@Rhuu I said calm down to the people who called me garbage/waste of skin gratuitously, not to you. I use NoScript, I don’t see an option to quote posts.
I don’t like being grouped with extremists and these .co users are the extremists that’s why I decided to “”defend”” myself but I don’t think anything I say will change your stereotype.

@Gaebolga By “looks” I meant like “you have to be average or above average looking”, not “you have to be a model”. Normal looking people can find partners, yes. The characteristics you are talking about are personal preferences, I believe there are physical traits that when combined make you unanimously hideous (to humans in general, not just to women).

Also no HTTPS?

Lainy
Lainy
2 years ago

@Incel157

Fuck off and go away. You are not welcome here. Jesus what is with you incels not understanding the words no and go away.

Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
2 years ago

I believe there are physical traits that when combined make you unanimously hideous (to humans in general, not just to women).

Of course. That’s what I was saying. You’re hideous: go away.

Surplus to Requirements, Observer of the Vast Blight-Wing Enstupidation
Surplus to Requirements, Observer of the Vast Blight-Wing Enstupidation
2 years ago

@Incel157:

I don’t like being grouped with extremists

Then don’t call yourself an incel!

Wetherby
Wetherby
2 years ago

I don’t like being grouped with extremists and these .co users are the extremists that’s why I decided to “”defend”” myself but I don’t think anything I say will change your stereotype.

So stop calling yourself an incel. Because while you might have been able to get away with “not me, guv, it’s those other blokes” rhetoric in the days before incels started murdering wholly innocent people in real life because of their personal inadequacies, adopting the label now represents an unambiguous show of solidarity with them. And of course it will be interpreted as such, as demonstrated by the visceral revulsion to your very first post.

Ask yourself how your posts would have gone down if your name had been @nazi157. Right now, there’s pretty much no difference – if your very name explicitly aligns yourself with a viciously toxic and occasionally even deadly hate movement, it’s not at all unreasonable for people to assume that you subscribe to its ideology. And your follow-up posts haven’t been much of a corrective.

Ariblester
Ariblester
2 years ago

Incel157 wrote on
July 17, 2019 at 12:12 am:

@WTF Thanks for the words but I’m already old, your advice is perhaps good for the teenager normal looking “incels” who are really just insecure.

@Rhuu I said calm down to the people who called me garbage/waste of skin gratuitously, not to you. I use NoScript, I don’t see an option to quote posts.
I don’t like being grouped with extremists and these .co users are the extremists that’s why I decided to “”defend”” myself but I don’t think anything I say will change your stereotype.

@Gaebolga By “looks” I meant like “you have to be average or above average looking”, not “you have to be a model”. Normal looking people can find partners, yes. The characteristics you are talking about are personal preferences, I believe there are physical traits that when combined make you unanimously hideous (to humans in general, not just to women).

Also no HTTPS?

Hey, look at that, I managed to quote your post. It’s called “Ctrl-C, Ctrl-V and knowing how to use the <blockquote> and <a> tags in HTML”.

(j/k, it’s a userscript I wrote. You can write one too! I believe in you.)

So, you think that there is a specific combination of physical traits that automatically make you anathema to the sum total of humanity.

What is this combination, and what evidence do you have that this single combination is especially repugnant?

From what I have seen, this theory doesn’t wash: The incel community is full of subgroupings focused on either disjoint combinations of traits (such as “ethnicel”, which is everything from Black to East Asian) or alternatively, people who obsess over individual traits (such as “canthal tilt”, height and wrist diameter) which they feel sufficiently estrange them from the baseline of normality.

Clearly, they cannot all be uniformly unattractive. So, are looks really the fundamental factor?

Pyxxxie
Pyxxxie
2 years ago

You guys: ignore Incel157

Obvious troll is obvious.

Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
2 years ago

@Pyxxxie

That’s not what we do here. For one thing, we’re writing for whoever reads our comments, not just for any random troll who happens to post here. For another, some of us enjoy toying with trolls at least some of the time.

yzek
yzek
2 years ago

@Incel157

Don’t bother, nec Hercules contra plures

Rhuu - apparently an illiterati
Rhuu - apparently an illiterati
2 years ago

@pyxxxie – wtf, is this your first troll rodeo here? We know he’s a troll. We aren’t pushing back against him to change his mind, but

A) to make it clear that we think he’s wrong, so there is at least one space online where his incel bullshittery is called put for the mysogynistic horror show it is.

B) for any lurkers who think he might have a point, the undecided people.

C) for any lurkers who don’t feel safe commenting, because the internet is what it is and they might not have the apoons to push back.

D) because ‘don’t feed the trolls’ LITERALLY DRIVES AWAY VULNERABLE PEOPLE, BECAUSE TROLLS DON’T JUST GET BORED AND LEAVE AND STOP BEING TROLLS. VULNERABLE PEOPLE SEE THEIR SPACE BEING USURPED AND CAN’T PUSH BACK BECAUSE THEY. ARE. VULNERABLE!

If this rule WORKED, why do we STILL

HAVE

TROLLS?????????????

E) STOP SETTING RULES. YOU ARE NEW. You seem to think that everyone will listen to your opinions, and follow them. In this thread, you have told Lainy not to mock you, and us how to deal with trolls.

This isn’t a good look, my friend. This is behaviour that results in some side-eye from me.

Gaebolga
Gaebolga
2 years ago

Incel157 wrote:

The characteristics you are talking about are personal preferences, I believe there are physical traits that when combined make you unanimously hideous (to humans in general, not just to women).

Oh? And what would those traits be?

…but for the sake of argument, let’s assume you are absolutely correct that looks are both the most important trait and there are some baseline characteristics that, in some combination, make one considered “hideous” by literally everybody. Even blind people.

So, assuming that’s true, either your belief also implies that literally everyone values looks so much that no other traits can mitigate the universally acknowledge hideousness of some people, or it must acknowledge that other traits are also valued (thought not as much as looks) and that such other traits can — either singly or in combination — overcome that universally acknowledged hideousness and allow such poor unfortunate souls (hi, Ursula!) to find partners.

Judging from your words and tone, I’m going to assume you believe the former. Which means you think that every human who has ever lived (’cause it’s “unanimous,” natch!) is inherently shallow and incapable of valuing any other human trait — again, either singly or in combination — more than looks. Even blind people.

Damn, you’re stupid.

Rhuu - apparently an illiterati
Rhuu - apparently an illiterati
2 years ago

@incel157 – oh look, you do have someone on your side! Yzek! He also likes to defend homophobic and transphobic priests who think men can’t control themselves around the sight of luscious bare shoulders!

And also is an incel who pretty obviously hates women. (Start of a thread.)

This is kind of like tromp defending Pelosi. If this is the allies your actions get you, you might want to wonder
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If you can’t blockquote, you can tag people by going ‘@’ and their username, and a short summary of what they wrote that you are replying to. Or type out the html.

Again, telling people to ‘calm down’ has layers, my dude, and i find it iiiiiiinteresting you didn’t tell us if you had thought about that word choice at all. I doubt you have ever thought about it, you just know the effects it has, and maybe not even consciously.

As to people’s reactions to someone with ‘incel’ as the totality of their identity in their user name, well, if someone came in here called ‘gamergator157’, i would think that they hate women and minorities and probably harass them, not that they care about ‘ethics in games journalism’.

If someone came in here with ‘flatearther157’, i would be wondering if they were antisemetic, sexist, homophobic etc. Not because flat earth is those things, but because if you believe babbies first conspiracy theory, you probably believe more.

Qanon157. PUA157. MRA157. Libertarian157.

Basically i am saying that you had a chance to present yourself as a decent person to the commentariat, and for some unknown reason… You chose to be ‘hideous’. YOU chose ‘incel157’. Your reception here is all on YOU, how YOU behave and what YOU choose to throw your support behind.

Hmmmm… Could this have any sort of ‘analogy’ potential to other parts of your life? Hmm… HMMM…

https://giphy.com/gifs/l41JUepQ8rqpnI5ZS

Rhuu - apparently an illiterati
Rhuu - apparently an illiterati
2 years ago

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FART. Juuuuust ran out of edit time! This is the gif at the end.

Gaebolga
Gaebolga
2 years ago

@Rhuu

Why do you hate him because of his looks?

WHY??!???!!!???!!!?

(/s, of course)

Rhuu - apparently an illiterati
Rhuu - apparently an illiterati
2 years ago

@all – i am getting really tired of explaining that we don’t subscribe to ‘don’t feed the trolls’ here. Does anyone else think it might be a useful addition to the rules?

(Sorry for all the posts, today!)

Eta: lolllll Gaebolga, hahahaha. Why do i? (Also /s, i dislike him for his support of mass murderers and general incel bullshittery. Just to be clear to incel157!)

Viscaria
Viscaria
2 years ago

@Incel157

Wow. I’m being polite, calm down please.

You and I have radically different ideas of what can be considered polite. I’m not sure what you’re giving yourself so much credit for. Does polite to you just mean you didn’t come in here and call all of us “roasties”? If so, congratulations! I have baked you a celebratory cake.

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weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

No matter how appalling the subject of the post is, you can always count on Yzek to implicitly defend it.

Anyway, if you think looks are all that matters, you’re never going to attract people who care about other things. People who are passionate about art, physics, politics, their faith, cooking, running, or whatever else tend to want someone they can share those passions with. If all you do is obsess over how everyone looks and how they stack up in some attractiveness hierarchy, no one with any substance or interests will ever find you interesting and want to spend time with you. I’ve never met a single couple that doesn’t have some common interests. I’ve never dated anyone that doesn’t share my political views I don’t think.

yzek
yzek
2 years ago

@Rhuu – apparently an illiterati

… if you say so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Ariblester
Ariblester
2 years ago

Rhuu – apparently an illiterati wrote on
July 17, 2019 at 8:02 am:

@all – i am getting really tired of explaining that we don’t subscribe to ‘don’t feed the trolls’ here. Does anyone else think it might be a useful addition to the rules?

I’ll agree with the sentiment, though David did address this somewhat in the policy already by saying:

Sometimes I do let trolls and MAGA-heads and MRAs through, but only if I think they might be kind of fun for the regular commenters to bat around for a while. I will ban them if they become more offensive/annoying than entertaining.

But evidently it could be stated more explicitly.

Diego Duarte
Diego Duarte
2 years ago

@Pyxxxie

I’m cynical to say the least that South Park is to blame for the rise of the alt right.

I don’t entirely attribute the rise of the Alt Right to South Park alone, but regardless of whether or not you’re cynical about it, it did sow the seeds for many of the attitudes that characterise it. For one, South Park doesn’t itself limit itself to be a satire, it espouses and propagates many reactionary views. Incidentally, the show is very popular with 4chan and other similar minded communities, of relatively young adults that grew up watching it during the nineties.

South Park has made the case for a number of the following notions:

– Affirmative Action is racist against POC.
– Liberals who promote tolerance are literal Nazis, who want to shove the idea of tolerance down your throat.
– Global Warming is a hoax (a recently recanted view, which comes too little too late)
– Criticizing people for holding bigoted religious views is bigotry.
– Asking people NOT to be overly racist, misogynist, homophobic, etc is “Political Correctness”

Their use of Alt Right jargon is also noticeable, such as the common mockery of using “Stunning and Brave” to demean any act of resistance or opposition to status quo.

Again, was it solely responsible for the rise of the Alt Right? No, there were several factors involved, but you cannot deny the significant influence it’s had on the foundational culture of the movement.

kupo
kupo
2 years ago

@yzek

if you say so

Rhuu linked to your words, cowpoke.

Rhuu - apparently an illiterati
Rhuu - apparently an illiterati
2 years ago

@yzek – I mean, *you* say so. I linked to you.

You know we remember things, right? And that we can link to them, when you post them? It’s not like you coming back after a while means you get a completely clean slate.

But yeah, let’s listen to the fellow who figures that while he could withstand the smexxiness of bare female shoulders, he wouldn’t want others to have to do the same.

Also in that post he’s talking about going to a nude beach, not someone showing their shoulders in mass? How are the two equivalent???????

I can keep finding some nice tidbits of your opinions, yzek. You really haven’t shown the best of yourself to us. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

(Your allies, incel157! Enjoyyyyyy~)

yzek
yzek
2 years ago

@Rhuu – apparently an illiterati

Whatever keeps you in good mood, dude.

kupo
kupo
2 years ago

Whatever keeps you in good mood, dude.

I can’t speak for Rhuu, but you put me in a bad mood, every time. So could I request, fir that “whatever” you seem to be offering, that you…go your own way? Away from this blog?

Viscaria
Viscaria
2 years ago

This is the weirdest gaslighting attempt I’ve ever seen. “Here’s a bunch of stuff you said.” “Yeah, sure I did.” “Yes… you did? You wrote it down. There’s a record. I have already linked to the record.” “Whatever you want to believe 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️”

yzek coming in with the “Who are you going to believe: me or your own lying eyes?”

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

Yzek,

Your trolling skills have severely regressed. You sound like a bratty 10 year old. It’s not making anyone look bad but you.

Rhuu - apparently an illiterati
Rhuu - apparently an illiterati
2 years ago

Why would linking to a post about a sexist, homophobic, and transphobic priest put me in a ‘good mood’?

You… you know there are real world consequences to your beliefs and actions, right? Oh my goodness… Do you not realise that? That if you go “there is appropriate clothing for CHURCH and it is FULL COVERAGE FOR WOMEN” has like… effects?

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yzek
yzek
2 years ago

@Viscaria

I’ve already learnt there’s no use explaining myself after any of regulars pinned “kick the incel” label on by back.

Yutolia the Laissez-Fairy Pronoun Boner
Yutolia the Laissez-Fairy Pronoun Boner
2 years ago

@yzek: no one pinned that label on you. Any label that has been pinned on has been done by you with your own words.

Rhuu - apparently an illiterati
Rhuu - apparently an illiterati
2 years ago

@yzek

HMMMM
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(this is the linked comment, from a thread about incels getting plastic surgery, from that New York magasine story.)

But fair. I try not to use ‘incel’ as an insult, I only want to use it on people who have taken a shine to the ideology. And while I feel like you tick all the boxes, if you claim you aren’t, then I will make a note not to refer to you as such.

I suppose I could say “Yzek, claims not to be an incel but ticks a lot of the boxes”. I’ll think about it.

ETA – Right! I’m trying to be better about admitting when I don’t know something. Can someone tell me what this means?

nec Hercules contra plures

It seems to be a Polish saying… In latin?

kupo
kupo
2 years ago

I’ll just call him “yzek, defender of incels and other misogynist” or perhaps “yzek, white knight of misoginy”

Rhuu - apparently an illiterati
Rhuu - apparently an illiterati
2 years ago

Ooh, those are good, kupo!

Lainy
Lainy
2 years ago

I sleep in one day after a sprain ankle after teaching my dance class and yutz comes back. You guys I don’t have the strength to deal with one condescending troll and then another who wants to explain to me why I’m a bad Christian because I wear fishnet and a sundress to church in a 105 degree weather. I’ll see y’all on the other threads

yzek
yzek
2 years ago

@Yutolia
“Any label that has been pinned on has been done by you with your own words.”

…as interpreted by high authority of WHTM commenters. I’m also lighter than a duck, apparently.

Yutolia the Laissez-Fairy Pronoun Boner
Yutolia the Laissez-Fairy Pronoun Boner
2 years ago

@Rhuu: it means something like “even Hercules is weak when he is ganged up on.”

Rhuu - apparently an illiterati
Rhuu - apparently an illiterati
2 years ago

Thanks, Yutolia!

@yzek – weird quote… Unless this is another idiom I’m not aware of, it is odd for you to call yourself a witch, when that was used overwhelmingly against people that you most definitely aren’t…?

@Lainy – Take care of yourself. *sends well wishes*

Gaebolga
Gaebolga
2 years ago

@Rhuu

I think yzek is just trying to claim the mantle of the persecuted other, but doesn’t give enough of a crap about it to actually make his references coherent.

Kind of a half-assed flailing in the direction of meaning, which of course gives ample opportunity to claim that “what I really meant was [insert whatever seems rhetorically convenient at the time]”.

You know: a bullshitter.

Yutolia the Laissez-Fairy Pronoun Boner
Yutolia the Laissez-Fairy Pronoun Boner
2 years ago

@yzek “oh wah someone is trying to hold me accountable for things I say!”:

actually, yeah, your audience is going to interpret your words. It happens to anyone who attempts to communicate. Once you put something out there, the receiver is going to interpret that how they will.

When a lot of people interpret your words a specific way, and it wasn’t what you intended, the problem is still coming from you.

Plus, I don’t really even think you actually believe we misinterpreted you. It’s like you don’t expect us to call you out for some reason, and then you think you can gaslight us into believing you said things you didn’t and didn’t say things you did.

yzek
yzek
2 years ago

@RHuu:
when that was used overwhelmingly against people that you most definitely aren’t…?

Weird, isn’t it?

Lainy
Lainy
2 years ago

@Rhuu

Thank you, I’ll be fine. It’s just a sprain. I’ve been dancing for 15 years, their apart of life at this point.

kupo
kupo
2 years ago

when that was used overwhelmingly against people that you most definitely aren’t…?

Weird, isn’t it?

Weird that you, a misogynist, use a word that was used to persecute and murder women, because society was heavily misogynistic against women and killed them for, well, being women?

No, actually, not that weird. Disgusting, more like.

Big Titty Demon
Big Titty Demon
2 years ago

@Lainy

Still, feel better soon. Sprains suck.

@People who said stuff about South Park

Thank you! I have always loathed that show and been consistently told that it’s because I have no sense of humor and I’m such a square and blah blah blah, and I come back with “but look at what that is really saying!” to no avail. I feel very vindicated in my opinion now. 😄 I knew it all along!

@ yzek

…as interpreted by high authority of WHTM commenters.

Wait, you come in here and comment here, and you think we should have no authority in our own comments community? Who should, in your opinion? What is the correct high authority? Group consensus is out (not least because group consensus is against you), so should it be David? But he listens to group concensus… so maybe no one, because Freeze Peach? What authority should supersede ours?

Viscaria
Viscaria
2 years ago

@yzek

I’ve already learnt there’s no use explaining myself after any of regulars pinned “kick the incel” label on by back.

I can’t figure out if you’re upset about the incel label or the metaphorical kicking. I’m happy not to think of you as an incel specifically if that’s not a label you claim, but I’m going to keep treating incels with derision for their beliefs and treating you with derision for yours.

incel157
incel157
2 years ago

@Wetherby @Rhuu Well that’s guilt by association. Can I call you a TERF? Afterall TERFs call themselves feminists and you are a feminist, therefore… you are a TERF? Doesn’t make any sense to me.
The incel community is the only place I can find people in my situation (in their 30s and KHHV). Since the edgy kids hang out on .co, and I don’t browse that site or condone violence, I really don’t see why I should be in a watchlist like people think we all should be.

@Gaebolga @Ariblester You are putting words in my mouth, I think traits like recessed chins, skin problems (such as vitiligo or cystic acne scars), an abnormal head shape, a nose that doesn’t match your face and others are unanimously considered ugly traits. It doesn’t mean, for example, that if you just have a recessed chin, it’s over; you can compensate that trait with other things. But when you have multiple bad traits and you end up like a 2/10, it’s truly over.
Would you have a relationship with someone you’re ashamed of going outside with? Who attracts judgy eyes?

Lainy
Lainy
2 years ago

@incel157

Hey fuckwit. I have a good friend who lost half his face from a dog attack. He has a lovely boyfriend that is never ashamed of him even if people stare. Even if children ask mommy what happened to that man’s face. Maybe your just shallower then a kiddy pool. I could stand in a puddle of you and not get my feet wet.