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Did the pilot of Malaysian Airlines Flight 370 crash the plane as a perverse revenge for his romantic failures?

By David Futrelle

With no plausible official explanation for the disappearance of Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 five years ago, and the failures of the assorted attempts to find what survives of the plane in the deep, dark waters of the southern Indian ocean, you may have assumed, as I did, that we would never know what happened to the mystery plane, or why.

In a must-read story in the latest Atlantic magazine, William Langewiesche argues that — despite the bungled investigation of the matter by the corrupt and inept Malaysian government, and the assorted roadblocks government officials have put in the way of other investigators — we actually have a very good idea not only of what transpired in the final hours of that doomed flight, but also why it may have happened.

It looks, in short, like a murder-suicide by an aggrieved middle-aged pilot, depressed and angry over the dissolution of his marriage and possibly also by his inability to attract the attention of several younger women he had become at least slightly obsessed with.

Usually, these sorts of murder-suicides — which are shockingly common — involve a man taking the life of a woman who has left him or otherwise threatened his sense of control over the relationship, and possibly a few other family members, before taking his own life. (Murder-suicides involving women as the murderers are rare.) In the case of MH370, it appears the alleged murderer took out 227 passengers and 12 crew in his act of “revenge” on the world.

Looking skeptically at the official Malaysian government report, and largely ignoring the vast array of spurious conspiracy theories that have sprung up around the plane’s disappearance, Langewiesche examines the sparse but revealing electronic and physical clues left behind by the plane as it veered sharply off its original flightplan and then, after a series of puzzling maneuvers, ultimately flew six more hours in the wrong direction until it ended up crashing violently into the ocean thousands of miles from its intended destination. He concludes, confidently, that the plane

did not catch on fire yet stay in the air for all that time. No, it did not become a “ghost flight” able to navigate and switch its systems off and then back on. No, it was not shot down after long consideration by nefarious national powers who lingered on its tail before pulling the trigger. And no, it is not somewhere in the South China Sea, nor is it sitting intact in some camouflaged hangar in Central Asia. The one thing all of these explanations have in common is that they contradict the authentic information investigators do possess.

What did happen? It appears the plane was deliberately taken down, almost certainly by one of the two men installed in the cockpit at the beginning of the flight — either the pilot, 53-year-old Captain Zaharie Ahmad or his co-pilot, 27-year-old Fariq Abdul Hamid. (There is zero evidence of a hijacking, and Langewiesche argues convincingly that it would have been exceedingly unlikely.)

“[I]t is difficult to see the co-pilot as the perpetrator.” Langewiesche writes.

He was young and optimistic, and reportedly planning to get married. He had no history of any sort of trouble, dissent, or doubts.

But Zaharie, the pilot,

was often lonely and sad. His wife had moved out … By his own admission to friends, he spent a lot of time pacing empty rooms waiting for the days between flights to go by. … He is known to have established a wistful relationship with a married woman and her three children … and to have obsessed over two young internet models … for whom he left Facebook comments that apparently did not elicit responses. … Zaharie seems to have become somewhat disconnected from his earlier, well-established life.

What happened that awful night? Langewiesche suggests that shortly before turning the plane around a hour into the flight, Zaharie either killed or incapacitated his co-pilot, then depressurized the cabin before sending the plane climbing to 40,000 feet in a deliberate attempt to kill the passengers and the rest of the crew.

Langewiesche paints quite a chilling scene of what likely happened:

An intentional depressurization would have been an obvious way—and probably the only way—to subdue a potentially unruly cabin in an airplane that was going to remain in flight for hours to come. In the cabin, the effect would have gone unnoticed but for the sudden appearance of the drop-down oxygen masks and perhaps the cabin crew’s use of the few portable units of similar design. None of those cabin masks was intended for more than about 15 minutes of use during emergency descents to altitudes below 13,000 feet; they would have been of no value at all cruising at 40,000 feet. The cabin occupants would have become incapacitated within a couple of minutes, lost consciousness, and gently died without any choking or gasping for air. The scene would have been dimly lit by the emergency lights, with the dead belted into their seats, their faces nestled in the worthless oxygen masks dangling on tubes from the ceiling.

Zaharie, or whoever was flying the plane, had access to much more effective oxygen masks with hours worth of supplies; after several hours, he could have re-pressurized the plane, confident that he was the only one left alive. Or he could have taken the mask off after putting the plane on its final course and turning on the autopilot, drifting into unconsciousness and ultimately death long before the plane hit the water.

As Langewiesche is well aware, it’s hard to believe that any pilot would do such a monstrous thing. But, as he points out, there have been several similar cases over the last 22 years, including one that seems to have been inspired by MH370.

In 2015, a year after the disappearance of MH370, a young co-pilot named Andreas Lubitz seems to have deliberately crashed Germanwings Flight 9525 into a mountain in the French Alps after locking the pilot out of the plane’s cabin. As I noted at the time, he was known for his explosive rage — and had just been dumped by his girlfriend, and though he was clearly not an incel, he was quickly adopted as a “legitimate SLAYER” and “incel hero” by the regulars on the incel-centric SlutHate forum (which has since morphed into Lookism). Now that Langewiesche has highlighted the romantic and sexual rejection that may have triggered Zaharie’s alleged murderous act, I wonder if the incels will embrace him as well. (If they don’t, it will likely be because of his age; incels like their “heroes” young.)

As I noted in my posts on Lubitz, men often react poorly to romantic rejection, sometimes lashing out with violence — sometimes as the rejecter herself, other times at the world at large. Roughly a third of all female murder victims in the United States are killed by their exes, and “murder/suicides” in which an aggrieved man kills his partner or an ex-partner are so common in the United States that they’re rarely reported as anything more than local news unless, say, an entire family is killed.

Or, in this case, an entire plane full of people.

Toxic masculinity kills.

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Lainy
Lainy
5 years ago

@Kupo

Thank you for being much more reasonable with this then I am. I am sensitive about these kind of things to be patient and explain it like you did. You put that really well. So just thank you for that because it’s something I can’t do lol.

Luzbelitx
5 years ago

So I would like to believe I am very sympathetic to people with mental health issues.

Just because you would like to believe it doesn’t mean it’s true.

And even less means we should act like you are as sympathetic as the minimum required in this comment section when you are not. No.

In case you are indeed not a troll, you happened to wander into a place with high standards. Be humble and get up to speed or you won’t be allowed to stay. Nothing personal, there simply are no exceptions.

The fact that standards are high does not mean they are impossible or even difficult to meet. But you need to want to meet them and really commit.

A lot of atypical and hurt people hang out here. As someone else said, you can go be your regular you somewhere else. We’re not here to reinforce yours or anyone’s inflated self image.

To be honest, what you are saying about me is absolutely insulting that you would think I am that kind of person.

We’re not talking about the kind o person you are. We’re definitely talking about your behavior. You displayed behaviors against the local rules and people politely pointed it out. Your reaction to it speaks volumes.

You seem way more invested in preserving the image you have of yourself than in listening or understanding. Not cool.

I am a moderate, hated by both sides these days

Did you ever consider that maybe you are not hated because you are moderate but because of the way you treat people? Just a thought.

I will not post here anymore if I am not wanted.

I wouldn’t go as far as to say you are actually wanted, but to be welcome you must be able to abide by the rules and treat people with kindness and respect, even if you felt hurt. Can you?

Dalillama
Dalillama
5 years ago

I am a moderate, hated by both sides these days.

Would you like some cheese to go with that whine? You’re a ‘moderate’: you believe fascists have some good ideas, just not those ones. But still, it’s worth voting fascist now and then if they promise to lower your taxes, amirite?

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

This is all very Joe Biden demanding an apology from Cory Booker for criticizing him for bragging about working with segregationists.

anon
anon
5 years ago

the families of mentally ill people are often extremely negative, misinformed, and ableist about mental illness.
So too can be mentally ill people, & their doctors, bc its pervasive in society.

That is just one reason why it is unacceptable to call people mentally ill automatically *because* they are alleged to do terrible things. It perpetuates the stigma that mentally ill people are inherently bad people.

The OP story actually might not even be what rlly happened, but a non-doctor stranger can diagnose an illness in him? Nah. nope.

I submit to you that it is harmful *for you* to maintain this belief uncritically. Do you not want to have the most realistic understanding possible?

There’s your fckin persuasive debate club essay. Now stick the flounce already.

btw, there are plenty of centrist and multi-spectrum spaces, like a lot of reddit.

anon
anon
5 years ago

Biden is trash. Nonconsensual hair smelling trash

BTGG
BTGG
5 years ago

@anon: I agree with you 90%.

The 10% that I don’t agree with is the fact from the story, if true, suggests that the pilot was showing signs of depression. Which is a mental illness. Depressed people who don’t get helped in time sometimes end up doing terrible things to themselves and even take others with them. Yes, being depressed can indeed make you a danger to yourself and others. Which is why they need our help, not our scorn.

BTGG
BTGG
5 years ago

Most of all, David is really reaching with this post. Equating this event with toxic masculinity sounds highly conspiratorial. Nowhere is there any hint that the pilot was a misogynist. He very likely did have issues which drove him to do this and I see no evidence that he sought attention or notoriety(which is the motive behind mass shootings). He choose a plane because that’s how he earned a living and it was the easiest option for him.

kupo
kupo
5 years ago

@BTGG
Mind the god damn comments policy already

@Lainy
You’re welcome. I had the energy and clarity to write that up just now. Sometimes I’m sapped of energy and have brain fog. The nice thing is that around here we take turns explaining these things. Otherwise it would get exhausting.

anon
anon
5 years ago

@BTGG I do not care what you think bc I dont value your opinion, so dont @ me.

I literally wrote I dont want to debate.

I wrote several times for the other troll to go away.

You are being deliberately disrespectful to try to provoke negativity. That truly fckin sucks, what a shtty way to be.

BTGG
BTGG
5 years ago

@anon:

I’ll @ you as much as I want. Now kindly Fuck Off.

Lainy
Lainy
5 years ago

@BTGG

This is basic pre-school stuff. They asked you to leave them alone so leave them alone. Don’t be a fucking bully.

Mrs. Obed Marsh
Mrs. Obed Marsh
5 years ago

And now there’s two of them.

who the fuck is scraeming "LOG OFF" at my house. show yourself, coward. i will never log off— wint (@dril) September 16, 2012

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Big Titty Demon
Big Titty Demon
5 years ago

@Gaebolga

If you figure it out, lemme know!

@BTGG

Nowhere is there any hint that the pilot was a misogynist.

Hmmm… not any hint… I wonder why he can’t spot it… Oh right! This is the guy that thinks it is fine for a 13-year-old boy to have sex with a 17 year old girl! I knew there was a reason, and that reason is assholery.

Ohlmann
Ohlmann
5 years ago

Also, the hypothesis of the article isn’t conspirational. It’s not documented well enoug to be sure that it’s the reason for the crash, but a well-documented, detailled hypothesis that explain an event isn’t conspirational thinking.

Rhuu - apparently an illiterati
Rhuu - apparently an illiterati
5 years ago

@BTGG – Toxic masculinity doesn’t mean you slap women’s asses and call them ‘sweet cheeks’. It means that the masculine person believes that there are few allowable emotions, and anger is one of the most important. It means they don’t ask for help, because that is admitting weakness. It means they worry and reinforce harmful societal standards of manliness. ETC.

Also… I put it to the community. I really didn’t like the response btgg had to anon… They have been told multiple times about the comments policy. Is it ban time?

Normally i would just email, but btgg isn’t a pure troll so…

Re @Mark – Also the “i have a close experience with a family member who is mentally ill, i have nothing more to learn about the societal treatment of neuroatypicals!!” Reminds me of a post on this very blog… About how the patriarchy couldn’t exist, because then men would be being shitty to their wives! (shock!) They would have put even their own daughters in it!

Could you believe this nonesense????? (/S, lololol)

opposablethumbs
opposablethumbs
5 years ago

@Rhuu, fwiw I agree with you re BTGG’s response to anon.

@anon, if you see this, I’d be glad to read more from you any time you feel like it.

Viscaria
Viscaria
5 years ago

I should not care because this is the internet, but if you want to discuss feelings It does hurt when people say this. I didn’t mention this but even though I am not mentally ill I have very personal and frankly traumatic experiences with mental illness of a very close family member. To be honest, what you are saying about me is absolutely insulting that you would think I am that kind of person.

Mark: Kicks a puppy

Lainy: It’s really awful that you kicked that puppy.

Mark: How dare you say I hate puppies ?? I love puppies so much ??? some of my best friends are puppies actually ??

BTGG
BTGG
5 years ago

@Rhuu:

I’m aware of what toxic masculinity is. But I don’t see this as an example of it. I’ve seen other news articles that describe the captain as a playboy who cheated on his wife with flight attendants. Until the black box is found the mystery of MH370 remains. I didn’t like anon telling me they didn’t value my opinion bc that’s dismissive.

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

BTGG,

The belief that violence is the best or only way to solve ones problems is textbook toxic masculinity. It is not a coincidence that the vast majority of mass murderers, and in fact the mass majority of murderers in general, are men. Patriarchy teaches men to take out their issues on other people and teaches them that they’re entitled to control other people’s bodies and lives.

So the fuck off you got for calling toxic masculinity a conspiracy is well earned.

There are plenty of explainers on the topic available. Rhuu kindly linked to some. No one here is obligated to politely give a 101 education or gently prove anything to you.

NelC
NelC
5 years ago

Wouldn’t “cheating on his wife with flight attendants” be an example of behaviour associated with toxic masculinity? It’s not on the same scale as murdering hundreds of people, but it’s toxic and tied to iconically masculine attitudes.

Rhuu - apparently an illiterati
Rhuu - apparently an illiterati
5 years ago

@BTGG

I didn’t like anon telling me they didn’t value my opinion bc that’s dismissive.

They told you they didn’t want to debate you. Do you believe you get to debate everyone you meet?

“Sheesh, it’s hot today.”
“It’s hotter in other places! DEBATE ME!”

“I enjoyed Last Jedi.”
“It was objectively a terrible film! DEBATE ME!”

“When men commit murder/suicide like it’s alleged in this article, whoo boy toxic masculinity. I don’t want to debate this.”
“It’s obviously not, because he wasn’t misogynistic! DEBATE ME!”

… I mean…

kupo
kupo
5 years ago

I agree with opposablethumbs on both points:
– it’s hammer time
– I also enjoy anon’s contributions to the discussion

anon
anon
5 years ago

lol how you gonna tell me to F off when I didnt say a thing to you and you decided to get in my business when I was not talking to or about you?
Nah bud.
Im telling YOU to F off, and leave ME alone.
You arent entitled to talk to me. Im not obligated to talk to you.
You will get banned when people are sick of telling you to stop, this isnt your space.
That toxic anger tho

anon
anon
5 years ago

Toxic men think they own the entire internet and can use their anger to bully marginalized people out of our own spaces, Ive seen it happen many times.
Except while Im rarely here bc it gets depressing, I am the type of person this space is for – as in, not a toxic man here to troll, and willing to follow comment policy.
There are lots of places people like me cant safely exist without some harassment – ie twitter. These dudes get mad that I can exist anywhere online at all.

The idea he has to talk at me specifically, when I dont consent to talk to him, sounds a lot like the way irl abusers act.