By David Futrelle
It’s getting harder and harder to tell the difference between a certain subspecies of contemporary leftist — the anti-“identity politics” types who take a naughty delight in dismissing their foes as “retarded” — and the pepe-posting assholes of the alt-right and/or the woman-hating dinguses of the Men’s Rights Movement.
Take, for example, the putatively leftist podcaster and Twitter provocateur/bad-take-factory Aimee Terese. Several weeks ago, you may recall, Terese caused a bit of a stir by suggesting that journalist Talia Jane, who had gone public about the skeezy sexual DMs she’d gotten from a male colleague, has such an unbeautiful face that she should have been flattered that any man would “even contemplate ejaculating on it.” (No, really, she actually said that.)
Today Terese is back at it again, posting comments about #MeToo that are virtually indistinguishable from some of the worst things that professional misogynist Paul Elam, founder of the hate site A Voice for Men, has said on the subject.
How indistinguishable, you ask? Well, see if you can distinguish them. One of the quotes below is from Terese; one is from Elam; and one I made up for this quiz.
1) “#metoo is [a] long awaited catharsis for ageing starfuckers everywhere. That time your naked 19 year old self gave a handy to a celebrity photographer is now your trauma ticket to the 15 minutes of fame you were denied back then.”
2) “Elderly ex-star fuckers have seized on #metoo both as a means to take down the alpha males they once idolized and to round up a white knight brigade of emasculated shitlib soy boys eager to tell them they’re still oh so pretty.”
3) “[Prominent celebrity’s] victims? Or just a bunch of drug whoring star fuckers?”
When you’re ready, scroll down for the answer.
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The first quote is from Terese; the third is from Elam (and the celebrity in question was now-convicted-rapist Bill Cosby); the quote in the middle is my best approximation of the sort of rhetoric the two share.
In any case, the answer to the question in my headline is that both Elam and Terese have now publicly called #MeToo accusers “starfuckers,” the only real difference between their rhetoric being whether or not they put a space between “star” and “fuckers” or not.
Here’s the full quote from Terese, in a Tweet today:
In addition to being a reprehensible thing to say about #MeToo accusers in general, Terese’s tweet seems pretty clearly to be snipe at one accuser in particular: model-turned-writer-and-podcast-producer Jamie Peck, who went public with her story of sexual abuse at the hands of predatory photographer Terry Richardson in 2010 — which was, incidentally, a full seven years before the #MeToo hashtag went viral. Not coincidentally, it also took seven years — and countless other women coming forward with similar stories about the powerful photographer — before publishing giant Conde Nast and several large fashion houses finally dropped him.
As for Elam, here’s a link to a post I did on Elam’s horrific take on Cosby. The quote in question was the title of Elam’s post, in which he also referred to Cosby’s accusers as
a bunch of greedy women who commoditized their bodies like groupies who managed to get backstage at a rock concert.
As it turns out — no great shock here — Terese has had quite a few other terrible things to say about #metoo.
Sometimes she makes an effort to drape her retrograde opinions in Marxoid buzzwords.
When she’s not spouting buzzwords, she likes to present herself as the True Voice of working women — fighting against the rich ladies and the giant corporations (?) that are supposedly benefiting from the movement.
Apparently #MicrosoftMeToo comes pre-loaded with Windows 10. But you can disable it in “settings.”
While Terese normally likes to pretend she’s pushing some uber-enlightened Marxoid philosophy when she attacks #MeToo, she sometimes forgets. It’s pretty hard to discern even a pretend progressive impulse behind a tweet like this:
I dunno, it kind of seems to me that a joke suggesting that #metoo accusers are a bunch of “frigid women” isn’t really very funny, even with a a winky-tongue-sticky emoji stuck in the middle of it? But what do I know? I’m probably just some emasculated careerist shitlib soy boy who needs to read more Marx and 4chan.
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“Denied the fracture”
Please tell me this isn’t referring to vaginas.
I find Aimee Terese’s tweets just leave me confused. I feel like in a few years? (months? days???) she’ll come out with some how-I-converted-to-Conservatism narrative, complete with how she was a big old sinner I mean feminist but has now Seen The Light. Like Roosh, only with a different starting point. Or maybe she’s already done that? I only know her from what I read on WHTM because I can’t stomach any more exposure.
she’s basically a female version of Jordan Peterson.
using buzzwords she deliberately misinterprets the meaning of to get clicks from the ignorati, just like Peterson.
I fucking hate these people.
I can’t even understand what she’s *talking* about. How does a person that generally incoherent get an audience? Reminds me of my motto for political/informational writing in general: if you can’t be bothered to say it in a way that’s understandable to most people, it can’t be very important.
Also confused. But she wouldn’t be the first supposedly independent voice who turns out to be working with the usual suspects. Is the fact that she uses the same vocab as Elam here telling, or is that terminology common?
@ichthyic
Oh Christ she is. You found the perfect words for it
@ theluckyfrog,
Exactly! And also: if you can’t explain it to a reasonably intelligent 12-year-old, you don’t understand it yourself.
@Bakunin,
I’m not sure if you were being sarcastic, but just in case you actually wanted to know:
And yeah, everyone commenting on her horrendous writing is spot on. It’s legitimately terrible.
A female David Horowitz for this generation? Probably.
I won the quiz. I don’ t know whether to be proud or disturbed.
Anyway, I will never understand those women who want to be the cool girl for asshole guys. I just don’t fucking get it.
“They fetishised bourgeoise womens’s rage to manufacture consent for a fantasy that male entitlement was to blame.”
Can someone explain this part to me please? So she’s saying that the people involved in me too exploited middle class women’s rage and directed it at the fantasy of male entitlement? I’m mostly confused by the “consent for a fantasy” part.
Edit: Also, what does it mean to “manufacture consent for a fantasy”?
I can’t stand Marxists.
I’ll bet you dollars to doughnuts she’s a Tankie, too.
@ichthyic & amp;@Lainy:
Sadly, she’d probably take such a comparison as a compliment.
@ObSidJag
It would be interesting to actually call her out on that since Terese made an excellent overview of how idiotic Peterson is on Revolutionary Left Radio, making it especially amusing how much she sounds like him now.
I hope these outbursts cause people who know her to cut ties.
Ohhhhh maybe she just means that the people behind metoo “worship” the anger towards male entitlement held by middle class women?
Does she really think her criticisms of #MeToo are original? Tarana Burke, the person who first used the phrase in this way, talked about class and race inequality in the movement. Lots of people have addressed the need to make it more inclusive WITHOUT going “Oh, we should throw the whole thing away.”
@Mish
I think I’ve just been reading too much garbage lately, with just the tweet David posted I parsed it as “emasculated men who were denied”, not “emasculated men who denied”.
Then again Terese isn’t exactly a coherent writer…
Can someone confirm for certain that this individual is indeed a woman? I have my suspicions.
I knew which one was David’s because, despite the alt-right buzzword madlibbing, the sentence structure was correct.
Edit:
Hey, it’s pretty sexist to assume women can’t be terrible and/or misogynistic people.
I’m no Marxist scholar, but I’m relatively familiar with leftist jargon, and none of those tweets make a single lick of sense to me.
I get the sense that they’re intended to sound like:
“#MeToo is problematic because it only benefits privileged women and leaves marginalized women in similar or worse conditions than they were in pre-#MeToo”
while actually meaning:
“Look at me! I’m attacking women who speak up or otherwise make some men uncomfortable! I’m a cool girl! I can be used to prove that even leftists think things like that #MeToo is going too far and that ableist slurs are totally fine! Let me into the club!”
On her vocabulary, the other thing that struck me is her love of the term “shitlib.” The only other person I’ve run across who seems to like it as much as her is Heartiste.
@Silly-bollocks
“Manufacture of consent” refers to a propaganda model which claims that when the media in a capitalist country are subject to market forces, they will usually produce propaganda encouraging the public to accept things that benefit the market but that the public would normally balk at.
Aimee Terese, however, seems to be using it as a synonym for “creating fake news.” She sure does like this pattern: Economic liberals¹ Xed to manufacture consent for a fantasy that Y was/were to blame.
In just what’s quoted here, we have the following X → Y’s:
fetishized bourgeoise women’s rage → male entitlement
sold a narrative [of bad stuff] → Trump and Putin
spun a narrative [of bad stuff] → Nazi’s, incels and fascism
It’s just your typical conspiracy theorizing and denialism fancied up with leftist buzzwords. The important thing to take away is that this so-called leftist doesn’t think anything in the Y category is, even in part, actually to blame for the state of the world today.
Oh, hey, looks like she discovered this post.
https://twitter.com/aimeeterese/status/1140848015986401280
I’ve always seen me too as a thing; because if rich and in the public eye women are being abused, assaulted, all of that just imagine what women who have very little power are going through. If it’s bad for the people who have resources and money, then those that don’t have that could be even worse. The me too movement needs improvement yes, but it is a good thing that is helping a lot of people.
Oh look red bull woman got her self righteous knickers in a bunch.