By David Futrelle
Today’s Deep Thought from the Incels.co forums. (Well, ok, technically it’s a Deep Thought from January but I just ran across it today.)
The rest of the thread is pretty bad but I’m too filled with existential dread to dig out the worst quotes for you all today.
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As the header says: Fucking yikes.
Incels (at least think they) want pussy, but they don’t want to deal with women as people. This poses a rather insoluble conflict.
15 minutes. I don’t get undressed for anything less then one 1 hour. 15 minutes you can jack yourself off, that’s not worth taking off underwear then showering for a second time that day.
No offense to any normal slimes or FBI who may be watching.
Congrats Brah! You just made all kinds of lists! Roasties? You’re now more popular than Arby’s!
@Lainy
Sure.
But if some woman — this guy doesn’t even demand that she be beautiful! — would just give up 15 minutes of her time, then this guy would be OK FOREVER and NEVER, EVER HURT ANYONE.
Yeah, kind of, if you think about it in a certain way.
Incels: accepting no responsibility for their actions since, I dunno, the year 2000?
“Slinging pussy”? Imma be right back. Gotta get me some chaps and a cowboy hat. Meet y’all outside the saloon at high noon.
@Kat
It takes me that long to take shower. If I’m gonna get more wet in the shower and be wet longer then when having sex, then that’s just not worth it at all.
I swear, these people think of their dicks as some sort of angry volcano god that must be constantly appeased OR ELSE. It demands that we all fling women, social norms, and civilization into the sacrificial pit.
How about no.
Why don’t they do it? First off, that would be appeasement, which is only a quick fix that sets a precedent for horny creeps to act like they want to shoot up a school so women are forced to have sex with them.
Second, it wouldn’t work. You don’t need to get laid. You need a therapist to banish the toxic masculinity from your psyche. That’s why the incels shun therapists. They would show you that the real source of your problem is your own faults that you steadfastly refuse to address.
@dashapants
Heard yous the fastest pussy slinger this side of the Mississippi, Prove your worth and draw.
It is a lovely offer but I think I (and most other women) will pass on the extortion threat.
How about insisting women change to suit you, you work on something you can actually control, Yourself!
Perhaps all incels would like to instead move to Snake Island instead. I hear it is beautiful this time of year. And you won’t have to deal with any of the nasty women. /s
I thought the (((Jooz))) did 9/11, or maybe it was a false flag op and the towers are really still there, or it was the (((J00z))) and the {{{Muzlimz}}} and they celebrated on the rooftops… you’re telling me it was WAHMEN all along!?
Totally OT, but where do people go to discuss anime? I have recently been getting back into it and I don’t know where to go that isn’t a huge dumpster fire.
I appreciate any help.
@Kestrel
Anime Feminist (https://www.animefeminist.com/) is pretty good, but the comments sections of their articles aren’t exactly a hotbed of activity. If you can spare US$5 a month, their Discord is much more active.
Disclaimer: I am a $5/month supporter of Anime Feminist. I am not employed by Anime Feminist, nor am I involved in any capacity except as stated above.
This entire screed is at least extortion if not terrorism.
this person should be arrested immediately.
I find it odd how having sex is no big deal for the woman, a minor hassle at worst, while simultaneously being absolutely life-changing for the man. It’s almost as if there are two different standards being applied here.
How about not in a million years.
https://www.reddit.com/r/IncelTears/comments/6ybrcl/in_case_you_were_ever_thinking_about_giving_pity/
@Teabug
I wasn’t considering pity sex for an incel. But I clicked through anyway. And even though I’m jaded when it comes to incels (not to mention life), even I was shocked that he posted a photo of the young woman who he says was nice to him and had sex with him — but whose appearance wasn’t up to his lofty standards.
Man people will find any excuse to not actually blame like racism and shit for school shootings because like arn’t most school shooters not “Lonely outcasts” but like bigoted bullies?
The fact is, from the incel point of view, if some poor girl took them up on this they’d still act aggrieved and like the victim because it would be the wrong sort of pussy. Not skinny enough, not virgin enough, not pretty enough. Failure to perform, finishing too quickly, that would all be a tradegy too.
One incel, in a discussion on the shame of “looksmatching”, declared that you can’t help who you are attracted to (which us funny considering how in women this is the Ultimate Crime & Degeneracy) and unfortunately they are attracted to never-never, perfect teenage girls.
@Kestrel
The usual response to that is that they can’t change their height, or wrist thickness, or canthal tilt, or whatever other body image issues they have, and you might have well suggested that they flap their arms and fly to the moon. Then they’ll go back to their forums and whine about how yet another stupid normie stupidly suggested self-improvement, which every incel knows is not a real thing.
“This guy might be a murderer so you should have sex with him.” Wow that is really an appealing pitch. Wait, I think I mean appalling.
That’s because women don’t enjoy sex anyway, whereas for men it’s a basic need, like food. FACT.
Ugh. I need chocolate.
@ Kestrel: OT
If the criterium of “not a huge dumpster fire,” which is very subjective, means you can tolerate some rightwingers and the occasional fevered lolicon apologist, animenewsnetwork.com has a decent forum, that’s pretty well moderated. It’s user base skews a bit older than most other sites, fwiw. Crunchyroll‘s forums haven’t been bad the few times I’ve checked in on discussions, and they get a reasonable amount of traffic. Haven’t been there in awhile, but forums.animesuki.com still has ok discussions going on and pretty decent traffic. fandompost.vbulletin.net (formerly animeondvd.net) is ok dumpster-fire wise, but it’s not a real friendly place for newcomers. If you can withstand the “trial period” while you get used to each other, you might like it. Whether you decide to post or not, it does have very knowledgeable people and some fun and useful sections like voice actors, disc glitches and the technical threads, so it’s a useful resource.
YMMV on any of them, so go lurk for awhile and see if any suit you.
they continue to radically overestimate how much sex anyone else is having, and with how many partners.
@Lainy
It ain’t the speed, it’s the accuracy.
*dons hat, plants dancing pole in the ground, then slings around it*
I hate the “I can’t help who I’m attracted to” excuse for shitty behavior. No you can’t help it, and nobody is obligated to have sex with someone they don’t find attractive. However, one can help making derogatory comments about people they aren’t attracted to or preying on minors. And incels, nice guys and assorted other sad boner bros have got to realize that it’s their own choice to have extremely rigid standards for attractiveness. The consequences of that choice is that it’s harder to find a partner. They don’t get to blame the rest of the world for that choice.
Well, THIS is even dumber than “shelter in place”…
Wow, that is ingenious! Imagine the potential applications of this method! We could eradicate rape by simply forcing women to have sex with potential rapists!
Foolproof!
Hark! I think I can hear Ross Douthat’s keyboard clacking away right now seconding Mahlo’s suggestion…..
Nothing hotter than coerced sex, amirite?
@Fetch
Yeah, seriously. I get that hormones are raging at high school age, and when I was the awkward pimple-faced dork I believed every story that “the cool guy” told about all the “tail” he was pulling in and we’ve all been conditioned to believe sex is some kind of life-changing event, but it’s really not. You’re the same person before and the same person after. It won’t change brain chemistry, it won’t cure mood disorders and it certainly won’t curb antisocial behaviour. It’s total bullshit and I think they know it’s bullshit, they’re just trying to push the unpalatable into the conversation.
Food for thought?? More like food poisoning for thought!!
Hi, *very* long time lurker, first time commenter here.
This people are absolutely insane. Not that, after having read since the site was called ManBoobz, I really doubted that. Still, I felt the need to public reiterate it.
I spent some time in the inceltears subreddit recently after this site mentioned them, and Oh My God do the Incels (even on Reddit, which theoretically has standards) say so much absolutely horrifying things. I’ve seen things on inceltears that eclipse even what I’ve seen on this site, which I didn’t think was possible.
Thank you, David, for your hard work documenting all if the shades of horror of the MRA/Incels/whatevers. I wouldn’t have known they existed without your site, and I was once slightly sympathetic to some MRA rhetoric many years ago, though I’m loath to admit it. Thanks for setting me straight.
Also, no incel could possibly have an altruistic motive. This particular disgusting ass just thinks that he’ll be one of the ugly losers that women might sleep with in his fantasy.
As an aside, is there a way to create a permanent profile? I seem to be dumb.
I can’t list everything that’s wrong with this post because I’ll be here all day
But I remember when I was a kid and the World Trade Center went down, nobody suggested Bin Laden should get laid and everything would be perfectly balanced
I may sound Draconian here but I’m in favour of treating incels like any other type of terrorist .
@Dan Kasteray
A number of incels have explicitly supported Elliot Rodgers and suggested that somebody should “go ER”. They’ve also been quick to try to claim any mass shooter as one of their own, an incel who finally “went ER.” They’re not – mostly – terrorists per se, but they’re definitely terrorist sympathizers. The FBI should be all over them, but unfortunately I don’t think the FBI really cares about people who aren’t brown supporting terrorists these days.
“Women ignore us, the good men!” says group of men who need to be bribed not to commit murder. “How can we make them pay for ignoring us, the good men?”
“I know!” says one of the Very Best Men Of All. “We’ll force them to choose between their bodies and their lives!”
The Good Men nod sagely. They wish women wouldn’t make them do this, but it’s so difficult being a Good Man when women refuse to reward them for being Good Men. Sex is no big deal for women, after all (while somehow simultaneously being a life-defining event for men).
Well, that was thoughtful of this guy to take time out of his busy schedule of endlessly spewing misogynistic bile and talking up school shootings to pause for two sentences, and pretend to be concerned about stopping school shootings. Did that count as 15 minutes?
If it’s just about tab B/slot A, then why isn’t he volunteering to “take one for the team”? I mean, his preferences don’t matter. The important thing is an incel gets to have sex.
Dude, just invest in a fucking Fleshlight already. The last thing any woman wants to have sex with is a dude with a violent hate-on for her, and for the world in general.
And, given the changes to a lot of abortion laws recently (very much for the worse), the next-last thing we want to do is get pregnant by a violent hate-wanker.
And also! In many parts of the world, there are just as many dudes not getting laid, but they’re not shooting up schools. Know why that is? BETTER DAMN GUN LAWS THAN IN THE US OF FUCKING AMNESIA.
I mean, it’s absolutely amazing what you can do when you don’t have a gun manufacturers’ lobby to kowtow to…
Right. So if sex cures would-be incel murderers, how are we supposed to prevent church/mosque shooting race war fuckstains? Eradicate all black and brown people?
Dan Kasteray,
I actually have seen the argument that Islamic terrorists are just sexually frustrated. Bill Maher pushes that one.
@Sarity
From the sounds of it, he thinks sex would cure them too:
@Dan Kasteray
The problem with that narrative is that everyone knew bin Laden had several wives, so it would have been hard to justify. Not that I disagree about treating incels as terrorists.
Meanwhile, for just a little bit of money, these people can have a new place to rant where they can be safe in the knowledge that they’ll never be banned unless a US court says so. Jordan Peterson promises!
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/jun/13/jordan-peterson-launches-anti-censorship-site-thinkspot
Yes, of course the first person he went to was fuckin’ Sargon of fuckin’ Akkad.
I particularly like this bit:
I beg your pardon, did you just say this was an anti-censorship site?
Jordan Peterson: terrible at logic since… well, forever, really.
@kat
This thread made me wonder if incels deep down are aware that some nookie time won’t cure them of their inadequacy and self-loathing, even if it is with a ’10’.
@Jackson Ayres
Welcome! Since you’ve been lurking since the manboobz days, I’m guessing you don’t need the welcome package. 🙂
You are not missing anything; there’s no way to create a permanent account. But you can get an avatar to display by going to gravatar.com and creating an account with the email address you use for posting, then uploading an image.
And just a minor side note: please refrain from using “insane” to describe incels/MGTOWs/PUAs/etc. The comments policy explains it best, under “crazy talk.” Thanks!
Apologies. Abhorrent would be more accurate
If I’d ever been told that I needed to service an incel or people could die, I’d like to think I would’ve told said incel, “Go fuck yourself, because I won’t.”
Ah threats, that’s totally gonna bring all the gals to the yard.
I’ve always found the whole “if you don’t do X. then I’ll do [insert horrible shit here] ! ” type of argument completely baffling, as its entire premise rests on the warrant that the person threatening to do horrible shit has any credibility.
If someone’s threatening to shoot up a school, then they’re the sort of person who – on a fundamental level – doesn’t have much of a problem shooting kids. And while I recognize that there’s a world of difference between shooting kids and keeping your word, I don’t think people like that deserve the benefit of assuming that even though they’re a murderous shitstain, they’ll definitely keep their promise not to shoot up a school if we just give them what they want.
And if we can’t trust that they’re not going to shoot up a school even if we meet their demands, then why bother?
Look, I just don’t find abhorrent, murderous scumbags appealing, and if I ain’t getting summut out of the transaction, it ain’t happening Mahlo and other incel twerps. Get a Fleshlight, I , and every other woman on the planet, ain’t things for you to use and Granny told me the golden rule: sin is when you treat people like things. Including yourself. You might want to consider that.
I disagree with the effortless part. I mean, even getting in touching distance, much less actually touching, requires that the martyr/victim continually suppress all their self-preservation and survival urges. Not to mention the consequences of such selflessness/forced labor–feeling unclean for a lifetime.
Also, of course we could totally trust the goalposts to remain firmly planted in such a society-held-hostage situation. Simple, really. Uh, I am not convincing myself here.