By David Futrelle
Men’s Rights Activists — and their close cousins the MGTOWs — fret endlessly about what they see as the unfair power women wield over hapless straight men seduced by their sexy bodies.
MRA granddaddy Warren Farrell has been warning men for decades of women’s “cleavage power” and the apparently hypnotic spells wily women can cast with their asses; these days, MGTOWs and racist conspiracy theorists alike obsess over the evil effects of women wearing yoga pants on the fragile male psyche.
But one MGTOW Redditor wants his fellow lady-avoiders to be wary of another hidden tool women have in their sex appeal arsenal alongside their actual arses: their unclothed arms.
Damn these diabolical body-having ladies and their infernal … limbs!
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What are the odds that this guy is also an Islamophobe who will bend your ear at any opportunity about how TEH MERSLIMZ are going to implement Sharia law and put every woman in a burqa? 🤔
O/T: I recently discovered a Japanese female punk band called “Otoboke Beaver” (apparently named after a “love hotel” near the founders’ high school). Check out the BLATNAT MISNADRY in this video! Disgraceful!
This is the best one I’ve heard yet. Lady arms are apparently sexual objects now.
@Cat Mara
Is “blatnat” the sound made when the political career of a nationalist like, say, Sargon of Akkad, hits the pavement?
This seems to be another guy who might have a time machine hidden away someplace. His fear of bare arms makes him sound like some sort of Victorian era prude.
@tim gueguen
No one tell them that these young ladies are also not wearing their stockings and corsets. They get boners from thinking about those sexy uncovered ankles
I’m afraid of the answer, but what does TRP and TBP means?
This article might be amusing to all y’all:
New Bones and Huge Testicles Tied Up With String, These Are a Few Of Incels’ Favorite Things
I wish I could just hibernate underground until the temps reached 15 degrees every year. That sounds lovely.
@eprovonost
The red pill and the black pill. Black pill is incel nonsense, red pill is mra nonsense.
@eprovonost
The red pill and the black pill. Black pill is incel nonsense, red pill is mra nonsense.
Sorry if a double post, I think my first post got eaten by the spam filter.
@tim gueguen:
If he has a time machine, and he’s talking about dangerous creatures emerging from underground to harvest weak men, I want to know whether sort of well-like structures are involved. Because then we might be dealing with Morlocks. Or possibly Sadako, I suppose.
For the last three years, I’ve been dog walking for a living. It’s very different from office work. But one obvious difference is that my lady arms are significantly stronger than they were. Last night my dogs were desperate to go for a walk at 3am. So off we went. The Labradoodle had a couple of sprints after cats and I stayed both upright and not letting go of any of the 4 dogs. Not sure my upper arms look any different, but gosh are they delivering with the strength.
So there’s that. Maybe womankind has taken up mass dog walking.
Besides my boobs, my arms are the fattest part of my body. But even though I have body image issues and hate my arms, I still don’t cover them in hot weather. So, now that it’s tank top season, I happily wave my arm blub in this douchebags general direction. Take that and my pale Minnesota winter legs too.
@Rabid Rabbit
No, “blatnat” is when one achieves such an exalted state of awesome that one is permanently VIP everywhere.
Full Disclosure: I speak other languages.
This word doesn’t actually exist in the wild, but given the rules of Russian word creation and portmanteau formation, it should totally exist.
For example, much like “kompromat” is a portmanteau of “compromising materials” this should be a portmanteau of “natural blat” where “blat” will be something like “flyness” in this case.
“Blat” is a complicated concept.
Used as a noun it means “perk” or “pull” such that “I have blat” or “I got it by blat” means “I have perks [at this place] or pull [with this person]” or “I got it after it fell of a truck and was slipped to me under the table.”
Similarly, one can get into places “by blat” via the front door if one is very “blatn(oy/ya)” or the back door if one is either a bit less or a lot more so.
Thus, “blatnat” should be the state of having a lot of spontaneous blat, as in “she has so much blatnat, BTS gives concerts in her living room.”
I now return you to your regularly scheduled programming.
Bring back the Victorian era, when even table and piano legs had to be covered, lest some “gentleman” forget himself and get a huge boner.
On second thought, don’t. Let’s just let this incel sad-sack with a persecution complex get his useless boners and die mad about it.
To be honest I’m really into Victorian fashion type goth stuff so that would be fine with me. Make it more common for me to wear a big skull pendent and a black lace veil. Yes please.
I am someone who envies how women can wear sleeveless tops in more situations.
I believe that the manospherians should just ally themselves with Wahhabi Muslims already, the denomination or movement I believe even other Muslims aren’t as keen on. I don’t want Islamophobic and otherwise pro-Christian or even just plain secular media giving them any more credibility.
Aren’t these guys (some of) the ones stuck on the constitution and the second amendment? Don’t they know it upholds the right to bare arms?
I’ll see myself out. 😋
🙄🙄🙄
OK, forgive me for being super boring, but if furniture legs were actually being covered, it would be to protect them from scuffing… but I think the joke that people in particularly stuffy locales covered them to maintain their decency was used even then!
@kupo
Fine, I’ll just try not to envy then. Sorry to be catty, but I thought I’d give my perspective on this.
Yes, there was a time when this wasn’t even a thing for women, but it is insulting that people want to go back to a time when people were far more repressive in terms of how they would express themselves.
@dashapants:
That was brilliant. Thank you. So having blatnat would be what gets you into the nightclub ahead of everyone else and without having to pay the cover charge, but not because your daddy knows Putin, just because of how cool you are?
@Bina, Diptych
I wonder if they ever actually caught some guy humping the piano legs. It seems like it would be an awkward position to do that. Unless they caught the dog, and were afraid the children would see?
OT: You know what, I don’t care if Gillette is just virtue signalling. I’m honestly pretty fine with them doing so. Especially since this new ad suggests they’re sticking with their “wokeness” rather than letting it be a oneoff from earlier this year, and damn the MRA torpedoes. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/28/gillette-ad-shaving-transgender-son-samson-bonkeabanut-brown
What was that, David? I was hypnotized by that lady’s noddle arms.
@Nequam
I wonder what new excuses they’ll come up with when they discover that looking like a “chad” doesn’t help them. (blame the surgeon, probably)
@ Bina, Diptych, Rapid Rabbit
I’m with the ‘protection from scuffing’ hypothesis, protecting the furniture from kitty claws too. I understand Victorian rooms were often over – furnished to the point of cluttering by early 21st Century standards, if the inhabitant could afford furniture.
It’s also possible, in case hard times came calling, the furniture might then be salable or pawnable for more money. Victorian – era folk might not be willing to admit that last one though, since for those ‘who’d made it’ any whiff of poverty in their past, present or possible future would be a huge taboo.
Is her left arm grotesquely elongated for a reason?
Lot of people rented their furniture too, another good reason to protect it from scuffs and bashes.
From MovieReviewMgtow in the same thread:
Oh yes, this is a very common occurrence. I see it all the time.
Another very common occurrence on the streets of the city where I live.
So much truth from MovieReviewMgtow.
OT
So often outsiders exhort incels to improve themselves (get a degree, exercise regularly, brush your teeth) and the dates will follow. This advice — boring! — probably falls on deaf ears.
Some incels have decided to take a shortcut to success by getting plastic surgery. But only some of them — this type of procedure is very expensive.
https://www.thecut.com/2019/05/incel-plastic-surgery.html
@dashapants: I actually studied Russian in University¹ but I never noticed the resemblance of “blatnat” to a Russian word…
O/T: New study finds single women are happiest, longest-lived humans. I’m sure Stefan Molyneux will be along shortly to ‘splain why this cannot be because cat ladies or something 🙄.
¹ For some value of “studied” anyway: the goal of the course was basically to fit students with enough knowledge of the Cyrillic alphabet and basic Russian grammar that we could translate a technical paper with the aid of a dictionary. Actual ability to speak the language as a result of taking the course was a nice-to-have. FWIW, it did help me be a better Irish speaker as Irish has a similar palatal/velar distinction as Russian but it was never adequately explained by my Irish teachers; after learning the little Russian I have, the whole thing made much more sense to me…
My feeeemale arms are not only exposed, but tattoo’d, so MGTOW heads can explode with rage thank you very much.
Oops! Ninjaed by Nequam — which actually has a certain ring to it. That said, although the topic is the same one (incels getting plastic surgery), the articles are different.
I’m pretty sure the photo is one of those “panoramic shot fails” that happens when people move when a panoramic photo is taken with a phone. There’s a whole bunch of them on the internet.
Is that a photoshop job removing an ex who’s actually holding the fishing pole?
@Rabid Rabbit
Both? Blat comes in both innate and delegated varieties. You can have it because you’re awesome and/or because you’ve got connections. In the case of “blatnat” I would go with spontaneous blat by definition, as Putin blat isn’t natural but contrived. It can also be viewed as mysterious force, as in “we came to the club with Vlad, and were an instant shoo in… such blatnat!!” wherein Vlad is suspected of having had something to do with it, but nothing is certain.
@Cat Mara
Well, as I have mentioned “blatnat” is not in fact an extant Russian word, though “blat” is; however, it is a slang word, so probably not something that is normally taught in class. I just sort of pivoted from existing slang to modified, using a common practice of shortening and stacking words together to create verbal shorthand. Largely, because I felt that it should be a word, and Russian (with its generous selection of prefixes, suffixes, endings, and other ways of modifying words) allows this on the regular.
@CapnMubbers
To tempt MGTOWs and test their resolve, obviously!
@Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
When I was growing up, my dad pretty much lived in shorts and would only resort to long pants when it got to -15 C or so. I wonder whose attention he was desperately trying to attract. I also wonder what kind of mushroom he is. 🤔🤔
I admit, I haven’t read that incel cosmetic surgery article yet, but it’s sure interesting that it’s getting so much attention. It’s seen as completely normal for women. Not just normal, but in some subcultures, expected. Women are just supposed to go through pain and expense to be beautiful, but when men do it, it’s a sign that something is wrong. Men? Going under the knife to meet society’s beauty standards? Well, I never!
Another argument I can make in favor of “blatnat” as a valid, useful word is that the word “natural” is used much the same way in Russian as it is in English. So converting it to its adverb form “naturally” would carry the same double meaning of “by a natural process” and “obviously” in both languages. Thus, “blatnat” is not only natural blat but also obvious blat, blatant even to the oblivious, making this a nuanced concept rife with connotation. 🙂
Imma just gonna stop talking now.
Indel 1: When spring comes, bare-armed ladies pop up like mushrooms
Incel 2: Ah yes. I too have seen bare-legged ladies in winter. This proves your claim.
These guys are not very good at logic
it is time to start harvesting
Re: furniture — I’m also going with the “anti-scuffing” hypothesis. I’ve seen Victorian furniture – the legs don’t look remotely human.
Apparently, however, they did have a parlour game in which a gentleman would pretend to flirt with a chair, and a lady would comment something like “excellent performance, wrong audience,” and whoever could get through this without laughing was the winner – at least I seem to recall reading about this, I can’t find it now, just a bunch of Victorian parlour games that involved kissing somebody *through* the slatted back of the chair.
I feel as though the moral here is that Victorians were less repressed than people think and did not actually have to resort to ogling furniture.
You gotta love this site. Come for the progressive discussions, stay for the Russian etymology, troll dismantling, and weird photomanipulations like that one that got Sebstian Gorka fired by Trump, not to mention yon shot of Reed Richard’s sister fishing!
Talking of panorama fails, I once managed to photograph a portal:
http://sheilacrosby.s3-website-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/portal900.jpg?x75792
@Big Titty Demon I’m glad I wasn’t drinking anything when i read that.
big titty demon, btw wow Walter Sobchak really anticipated them on that 2nd emendament shit “I didn’t watch my buddies die face-down in the mud” rants about free speech.
Mgtow: Now what about men’s body positivity and men’s right to bare arms.
Feminist: You can bare your arms and even your whole chest and torso.
Mgtow: Yeah but it’s not considered elegant.
Feminist: Neither for us.
Mgtow: Don’t feign misunderstanding with me, you know the bitter red pill truth but you’re trying to dance around the issue.
Feminist: Which is.
Mgtow: Sure it’s even illegal to bare chest for women, in some places, but there’s reason for it, coz follow me, you women don’t desire men’s chests as much or they do only for Chads, perfect six packs and pecs dunno -throws smoked red herrings around – but but… see women bare arms are considered elegant, men in bare arms are considered skanky, tacky, even rude, shorts at most casual.
Feminist: I like men chests and i can settle for four packs and less barrel like pecs -kidding -,but beyond that the whole man counts, but I can only speak for myself unlike you, not other women. Maybe we don’t dream of making a guy cover just because some might catch our glance. I remember some of your pals complaining that we supposedly want you to wear shorts which are a smarter fit than cargos as being entitled to daring to suggest men might wear something more flattering to their nice legs. You protested these women were objectifying men. Did you reflect on wether such gender roles are enforced by patriar… ehm toxic mas.. er, I meant chauvinism or by feminism. The real equivalence would be with shaved or non hairy men legs or arms, try to compare how they are treated on men and women when as hairy.
Men: The usual lazy hairy legged feminist, I knew you wanted to hint at that, that’s even antihygienic..
Feminist ….
@Moon_custafer:
Now imagining a Victorian PUA negging a sofa.
So, let me see if I’ve got this-
Woman trying to attract men- women bad
Man trying to attract women- women bad.
Is that the gist of it?
Rv97:
Ops sorry it wasn’t aimed at you as I overlooked your very comment on envying women’s bare arms apparently being more accepted, I wasn’t implying you were a mgtow at all, nevertheless it might contain the answer, though in a satire form.
I’m all for expanding fashion choices for men and I think with the right clothes even a guy can pull of a sleeveless top elegantly, it depends on how he carries it on and the attitude. Of course some people keen on traditional gender norms might curl their nose, but screw them. It’s just that since the 90’s mainstream men fashion stopped challenging established norms too overtly so it has to start over from scratch every time.
P.s. Am I in moderation? If the new (temporary) handle is inappropriate, I’m back on the old one, but seeing others, didn’t seem a problem 🙂
Also woman not trying to attract men – women bad ugly and unkempt frigid man hater
For these people, I think the compilation I saw on the other thread makes sense, seems to be just about women existing.
But I think in their mind it’s because they think men trying to attract women is linear, it’s just to get laid, otherwise they wouldn’t give what they deem as uninteresting beings the time of a day. To them women attracting men is to feet their ego without getting laid, which is the “money to pay” men with, they want to tease and attract any man.
They subscribe to that proverb for which men desire women body, and men desire men’s desire, I don’t know whose was this, oh I googled it, Freud, really?
I certainly desire a woman desire for me too and I’m sure it’s the same for other straight male friends of mine. That I know they are both necessary conditions to be met which together and not alone constitute desire, imho the passing desire a woman or a man might feel for another person they find attractive at glance =/= directly wanting to sex that person, which is an act of sharing which needs reciprocity. A woman or a man, well sometimes I mean, might even feel like masturbating thinking about them, but isn’t it a whole different level, well, to fuck with that person I mean. So I don’t get how finding an arm attractive is perceived as a tease!
P.s. If you somehow register me trying to send the duplicate comment, it wasn’t me trying to spam, but to verify if the comment is in the system albeit not yet visible.
This might just be me, but does anyone with depression. Does your depression get a lot worse during the winter when it’s cold. when I have to be under mountain of clothes and it’s cold out, mind get at least 40% worse then what it normally is. Normally I can handle it really well, but then my suicidal thoughts get worse (I swear I wouldn’t act on them) and I’m just in a tired, disinterest fog about everything. But then when there is more sunshine and I can wear the clothes I like, it gets a lot better. It’s like I can feel joy again.