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Incels unimpressed with STEM School shooters, dismiss them as “amateurs” with a “weak score”

By David Futrelle

The incels have evidently raised their standards for mass shooters. On Tuesday, two high school students opened fire in the STEM School in Highlands Ranch, Colorado, wounding eight other students and killing another. On Incels.co, the largest incel hangout outside of Reddit’s Braincels, the regulars reacted with a collective “meh.”

The biggest problem? The shooter’s “weak score” — with “only” one death reported. “What’s with all these amateurs lately smdh,” one commenter complained.

“Is it really that hard to get kills?” another wondered.

Still another lamented that the shooters hadn’t gone after the right targets.

When is one of these guys going to show up to a slut walk to congratulate women and help them celebrate female empowERment. They keep missing the chance to make a huge diffERence in women’s lives

The inappropriately capitalized “ERs” are a reference to mass killer Elliot Rodger, whom incels still regard as a martyr for their cause, a righteous incel executioner of “normies” and “foids” (females).

Another commenter fantasized about taking out some “significant” target like “the corporate offices of Buzzfeed or Visa or something.”

Still, there were a couple of incels on the site who thought the older of the two shooters, 18-year-old Devon Erickson, could turn out to be, in the words of one of them, “a fellow incel who went ER.”

But not many on Incels,co would bite. Some dismissed Erickson as a “prettyboy, normie-tier,” or even “a high tier normalfag or a chadlite.” Others, noting his decidedly non-macho appearance, dismissed him as “a fucking f*ggot” with “fucking dyed pink & purple hair” and “a literal f*ggot liberal soyboy.”

Erickson’s accomplice was described by police as a “female juvenile,” which struck the Incels.co regulars as inherently hilarious. “Well now we know why it failed so badly LOL !” wrote one commenter. “She got mad she couldn’t get a chad probably,” a second joked.

Still another added:

foids can’t do anything right.she didn’t have that high T rage that other shooters have tbh

After hearing reports that Erickson’s accomplice was not actually a “foid” but rather “a transgender male who was in the midst of transitioning from female to male,” one commenter mocked him as

a tr*nny, this has to be one of the biggest fails of a school shooting ever tbh

Another laughed that “this is kind of like an lgbtq+ version of columbine kek.”

The only person involved in the incident that the Incels.co regulars regarded with more contempt than the shooters themselves was 18-year-old Kendrick Castillo, reportedly shot dead while attempting to wrestle the gun away from one of the shooters. As one commenter wrote:

this fat f*ggot lunged at the shooter instead of running for his life, he was either blackpilled and wanted to die or a cuck

Most of the other commenters agreed that Castillo was the latter. “[H]is face screams cuck,” wrote one.

Another mocked anyone willing to risk their life to protect others.

JFL if you’re not using a foids body as a human shield in 2019. Fuck putting your life on the line for cucks and foids … throw them into the line of fire.

Even when incels aren’t cheering on murderers they somehow still manage to have the least humane responses to killings humanly possible.

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Ooglyboggles
Ooglyboggles
1 year ago

But these people aren’t terrorists honest! /s

tim gueguen
1 year ago

Yep, they’re just lone wolves, because they don’t have a flashy organisation name for themselves.

On a more serious note it’s scary to think that some of these responses are as much about jealousy as anything else. They’re denouncing the attack because they, so far, haven’t been able to muster the courage to engage in murder themselves. Of course I hope they never do.

Yutolia the Green Hash Pronoun Boner
Yutolia the Green Hash Pronoun Boner
1 year ago

This is just so gross. I know they’re incels and I’m not surprised… I’m just sick of this shit.

JUST! STOP! WITH! THE! FUCKING! SHOOTINGS!!!!!!!

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!

Anonymous
Anonymous
1 year ago

I wonder how much the incels are “unimpressed” because the shooting was allegedly done by left-wing / trans people (if the reports are correct). If the shooting were done by an “incel”, they would be praising it to the sky.

Even when supporting random murder, they cannot help being bigots with double standards – those beta cuck soyboy trannies can’t shoot random people like us *real men*.

Mels
Mels
1 year ago

This is grim even for the usual content covered on whtm…

MissEB47 (Resident Rainbow Lorikeet and Beak Typist)
MissEB47 (Resident Rainbow Lorikeet and Beak Typist)
1 year ago

Another shooting?! It seems like there is one every few days. I wish it would stop.

Anonymous
Anonymous
1 year ago

You ever wonder if they’d start singing a different tune if they were actually at one of these shootings? I doubt they’d be so approving of mass murderers if they realized they’d be just as likely to get targeted as anyone else.

Knitting Cat Lady
Knitting Cat Lady
1 year ago

Wow. They have scraped right through the bottom of the barrel and are digging to China now.

That, incels. That mindset. THAT is why no woman will touch you.

I don’t know why you don’t have a shred of empathy.

Did your parents raise you to be a selfish, entitled prick? Or did you hang around the cesspools of the internet too much?

Seriously, get offline. Get a therapist to dislodge the conditioning you managed to program yourself with.

And maybe, once you’ve learned how to be a decent human being and not a complete asshole, woman will stop running away at the sight of you.

Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
1 year ago

What’s with all these amateurs lately smdh

Yeah, it’s baffling why professional killers aren’t targeting schools.

Amy E
Amy E
1 year ago

The foot soldiers of the MRA movement. This is Paul Elam, this is Warren Farrell, this is Jordan Peterson, this is Cassie Jaye: every single MRA leader is responsible for these comments, and the attitudes behind them. I hope they’re proud.

Victorious Parasol
1 year ago

@Amy E

The sad thing is, they probably ARE proud hearing/seeing their attitudes copied so far outside their own personal circles.

rv97
rv97
1 year ago

Pro-gun advocates need to stop deflecting the blame on “violent video games” and porn for the reason that shootings happen. Yes, vile ideology motivates these shootings, but so does America’s easy access to guns.

Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
1 year ago

I just can’t. This hits too close to home. A friend of mine has a son who goes to that school. Thankfully, his son escaped unharmed, but his family is in shock and trying to process this.

Meanwhile, a bunch of failures are crowing and chortling because some other failures failed at failing.

Incels deserve every single moment of social ostracism, self-contempt and loneliness they feel. I can’t think of any more fitting punishment than having to wake up every single morning as them, buzzing angrily like trapped bees against the glass wall of misogyny and kek that separates them from the adult world. May they rot in their self-created, useless, Pepe-wanking hell. May they be surrounded all day, every day, by obnoxiously happy mixed-attractiveness couples and supremely successful feminists and thriving soyboys and movies that celebrate diversity and people with free minds who are heading for the light, while they have nothing to nourish their souls except the stale E. coli from their own shitposts.

My friend said last night’s vigil was a sham. Some local politicians grandstanded for the media, and turned it into a campaign rally. Any students who wanted to speak were herded outside into the 32 degree freezing drizzle, told not to speak in front of the press, and told not to come back inside. The crowd followed, not knowing what was going on, and eventually dispersed due to the weather. Meanwhile, the media circus continued inside. It’s outrageous that hurting, traumatized students were treated like that at an event that was supposed to be healing.

Catalpa
Catalpa
1 year ago

Another shooting?! It seems like there is one every few days.

In the USA, there’s a mass shooting almost every day.
https://www.vox.com/2019/4/19/18412650/columbine-mass-shootings-gun-violence-map-charts-data

Turan, Emissary of the Fly World
Turan, Emissary of the Fly World
1 year ago

Sorry to go off-topic when the topic is such a serious one, but I thought people here would be interested in this piece from today’s Guardian, about the impact of Gamergate on British politics:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/may/09/gamergate-carl-benjamin-ukip-mep

Cindy
Cindy
1 year ago

@Buttercup

I get a little sick every time I hear someone say we should “help” incels.

They don’t need help. They don’t deserve therapy – save that for their victims. They need to drown in their own self-loathing.

Katamount
Katamount
1 year ago

@rv97

Pro-gun advocates need to stop deflecting the blame on “violent video games” and porn for the reason that shootings happen. Yes, vile ideology motivates these shootings, but so does America’s easy access to guns.

Precisely this. Frankly, any gun-humper needs to be confronted with this very real community that shares mass murder fantasies day-in, day-out and ask if they want to live close to one of these vile creatures.

I’m sorry, but I’m definitely feeling low at this point. Sometimes I imagine myself being able to articulate what’s wrong with the world and our society, but I know that being anxious old me, I’d never be able to do it effectively. To say nothing of lacking the energy of being able to do what’s necessary in politics. I’m tired of seeing these terrible people getting away with things all the time and constant ineffective pushback.

*sigh* The weekend can’t come soon enough.

vaiyt
vaiyt
1 year ago

I’m unimpressed with these guys’ internet tough guy act. “People died, please pay attention to me being loudly apathetic” is the kind of edgelord behavior I’d see back when I browsed 4chan in the late 2000s.

Anonymous
Anonymous
1 year ago

>>>>>>Yes, vile ideology motivates these shootings, but so does America’s easy access to guns.

Guns don’t kill people, people kill people. Perfectly true. But the gun sure helps, doesn’t it? I mean, if I just stood on a street corner going, “bang!” with my fingers…

Moggie
Moggie
1 year ago

@Buttercup:

My friend said last night’s vigil was a sham. Some local politicians grandstanded for the media, and turned it into a campaign rally. Any students who wanted to speak were herded outside into the 32 degree freezing drizzle, told not to speak in front of the press, and told not to come back inside. The crowd followed, not knowing what was going on, and eventually dispersed due to the weather. Meanwhile, the media circus continued inside. It’s outrageous that hurting, traumatized students were treated like that at an event that was supposed to be healing.

I’m guessing this is a strategy hatched since the Parkland high school shooting. They don’t want any more survivors becoming vocal gun-control activists. Every day counts in the news cycle: keep the kids away from the cameras for a few days, and everyone else will have moved on to the next outrage.

numerobis
numerobis
1 year ago

Cindy: terrorists already are drowning in their self-loathing.

The only solutions are compassion and treatment; or hatred and indefinite incarceration (or capital punishment).

Society at large would generally prefer just not solving the problem over using draconian measures, and close family will generally protect their kin until it’s too late if the response is harsh.

So really it’s either solve the problem with compassion, or don’t solve it.

kupo
kupo
1 year ago

So really it’s either solve the problem with compassion, or don’t solve it.

Fuck that noise. I don’t have to be compassionate to people who want me dead.

TheKND
TheKND
1 year ago

@numerobis

Compassion is a pretty hard sell when the opposition bases their entire worldview on labeling it weakness and treason. Sure, I want everyone to have their emotional (and physical) needs met, but I also don’t want those fucks taking society hostage to get things that are currently considered special privileges before anyone else.

Cyborgette
Cyborgette
1 year ago

OMG 🙁 *offers @Buttercup hugs if wanted*

Cindy
Cindy
1 year ago

I’m not dumb enough to believe incels can be helped with compassion. I can’t say any more, due to the comments policy.

Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
1 year ago

@Cyborgette – Thank you, hugs are much appreciated. It’s getting to the point where everyone in the U.S. is only 2 or 3 degrees separated from a school shooting. “The Lottery” was supposed to be a horror story, not an NRA instruction manual.

To add salt to the wounds, the Denver Post spun the incident as a “spontaneous protest”, as if the students walked out of their own accord rather than being tricked into leaving.

@numerobis – I recognize incels’ pain and what drives it, but compassion truly is wasted on them. Whenever anyone tries to reach out to them with understanding, they get viciously spat on and mocked. Incels’ whole identity is invested in being as shitty and nihilistic as possible. No amount of outside intervention is going to fix that. They have to want to change.

50 years of playing nice with right-wing authoritarian demands is exactly how we ended up with Trump.

The thing is, their goals aren’t remotely sympathetic. They aren’t asking for the right to vote, or to be heard, or loved. They’re not being discriminated against. They’re men, claiming victimhood in a society that already gives men a head start in numerous ways. Men complaining that they didn’t get the biggest and best head start. Men competing to see who can be the most antisocial, damaging human being. “Get our dicks wet or we’ll kill you” is not a reasonable (or even new) demand. “Burn down the entire system” because it doesn’t automatically dispense sex and respect: no one should even seriously entertain that for a second.

No, I don’t think incels should be jailed (unless they’re inciting violence), but I do think they should be quarantined, in the same way that trees deal with diseased wood: seal it off with a protective, callused boundary. Their views should be made clearly unacceptable and they should be embarrassed to admit to them in public.

It would help if we didn’t have

1) an orange trash fire in the White House openly telling bigots there are no consequences to shooting people on Fifth Avenue.

2) journalists who earnestly debate both sides

3) universities that give “palatable” misogynists like Milo Y. and Jordan Peterson a platform, a bullhorn, and the veneer of academic respectability

4) print and digital media so desperate for eyeballs that they’ve monetized hatred and controversy

5) a society that treats celebrity as currency, with shooters getting their faces and life stories plastered all over the news while the victims are remembered only by their family and friends.

That would be a start. We can’t fix incels from the outside – they’re a cult – but we can make the soil a lot less fertile.

Nanny Oggs Bosom
Nanny Oggs Bosom
1 year ago

Wow.

Just. Wow.

I’m not a violent person and I have hyper empathy, but hells bells, these creatures push my buttons.

Bina
1 year ago

Between the incels and the FARTs, a strong case could be made for building desert islands out of garbage to house all this human waste.

Boyan Slat, could you get on it, please?