By David Futrelle
So, you ask, or maybe you don’t, what are the incels on Reddit getting mad about today? Well, at least seventy of them — to judge by their upvotes — are getting pig-biting mad at a cartoon by a woman who enjoys having her hair pulled during sex.
Specifically, this cartoon:
Posting the cartoon in the Braincels subreddit under the thoughtful title “All girls grow up into degenerate whores who crave to be dominated by Chad,” the incel Redditor who calls himself ASS_F declared:
All this because of … hair pulling? Hair pulling.
Jesus, dude, hair pulling is one of the most garden-variety fetishes out there, so common it barely even rates as a fetish. In terms of “degeneracy” it’s probably up there with “earlobe nibbling” or “nipple pinching.”
But, apparently trying to prove to the world that they can get mad about literally anything, some of the commenters in the thread were less angry about a cartoon character who enjoys getting her hair pulled than they were about the hypothetical cartoon character they imagined was doing the pulling — assuming that the (possibly) Asian woman in the cartoon was dating a Chadly white dude rather than an Asian guy of similar attractiveness.
Yes, this self-described “Ricecel” is an Asian guy calling Asian women “noodlewhores.”
AMAF, by the way, means “Asian Male/Asian Female.”
As fucked as all that is, it’s not quite as fucked at the comment by this guy, who decided to use this thread as an opportunity to expound upon his vision of the ideal heterosexual relationship.
Huh. I thought the Reddit admins had banned all the hate subreddits. I guess none of this counts as hate?
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Yeah these boring fucks would run out of the house screaming if they got put in a sexual situation with me. “you want me to wear what? and put what where? hanging from the ceiling? a water pipe? this is gonna last how many hours!”
Barf
Barf
Barf
On a side note, that cartoon is gold
Oh for the fuck of shit. I bet most women DON’T like having their hair pulled, even during consensual sex. I sure as hell don’t, and if some guy tried it on me during that, it would be the last he ever saw of me. And possibly some crucial part of his anatomy, too.
Which, ironically, could make him an incel for real.
Funnily enough, it’s make me laugh when incels laugh at people describing their wife as their best friend. It’s like “How are you a person who can determine what makes a good friend or good wife, based on your lack of experience?”
@Bina
As I recall, according to the Christian worldview at least, being bereft of the ability to fornicate doesn’t count as celibacy, voluntary or otherwise. You can’t prove your ability to give up chocolate cake if there’s no chocolate in the first place.
According to incels my parents would never have gotten together.
My mum looked really stunning as a teen.
My dad was gangly, short, thin, had no muscles, and had horrible acne.
In other words, my dad was what the typical incel claims to be in the looks department.
My parents started dating when they were 15. They eventually got married and are still together over 45 years later…
It ain’t the looks, guys.
@Knitting Cat Lady
Well, sure, but surely your dad would never have looked at your mum if she hadn’t been stunning.
Plus, your “as a teen” suggests that she’s no longer stunning, so, see, she tricked your beta dad into sticking with her despite that.
The only thing that doesn’t make sense in your story is that I don’t see Chad there. Clearly Chad snuck in through the cracks and is your actual father.
I’d love to see the nuclear explosion if an incel proposed this face-to-face to your parents.
A nuclear family reaction?
The dad jokes have arrived
What kind of person bases human sexuality on what they see in hentai pornography? It’s kind of a simple question, uh?
@Rabid Rabbit:
Obviously my mum stopped being stunning as soon as she turned 20! Duh!
And once my dad finally hit a growth spurt and his acne cleared up, I guess he turned into a gangly, no muscles, Chad? He was blond and blue eyed…
I mean, he’s still blue eyed. And he still has most of his hair. But it’s grey.
We should all base our view of the world on 2-panel hentai comics and old Seinfeld jokes.
And why aren’t these people on, like, all the police watchlists?
Lord knows what will happen if they find out about spanking.
@Lainy
Women who like spanking should be treated like crops, since they enjoy being thrashed. Or like minerals.
No, you hate us because none of us will fuck you.
Unchecked, none of us will fuck you. This is not tragic.
The only accurate idea here is that women find attractive men more attractive.
*****
I ventured into quarantined Reddit territory to retrieve this incel comment:
You’re one of the antisocial men, not one of the good men. There’s nothing amoral or hypocritical about a woman preferring a good man and shunning an incel.
A lot more shit? Nah. You ran out of ways to express your rage about the fact that no woman will fuck you.
This, along with many other posts on this blog, gives me the impression that incels are actually disgusted by the idea of having sex with a woman, and are just trying to imagine reasons why that feeling is the woman’s fault; which of course mostly relies on the virgin-whore dichotomy which massively predates them.
Though the main take away if that when they see ANY indication that women are submissive in bed they assume it is vindication for the “All women love Jerks!” narrative. The “NiceGuys(TM)” used to do the same, but of course the incels extend this into a “Female sexuality will Doom us all!” narrative. In reality it is just turning irrational anxiety into a world view. Lookup “Incels Contrapoints” on Youtube, the best explantion of how you can start with common male anxieties and end up with this nonsense. (Of course most of you probably also watch the Contrapoints videos already)
@QuantumInc
I have long held that incels have never mentally advanced past the age of 12, when everything’s telling them they ought to be wanting to have sex but they’re still kinda grossed out about it because girls are icky.
*Thinks back* OK, so when I was 12 I’d moved past the “they’re icky” stage. But you know what I mean.
Isn’t it time they recognised that they’ll treat us as livestock anyway. All the projections of what we “all” want are just getting their justifications in first.
By the way, I have no idea where dude there is at university: the campus where I teach has a lot of Asian students, especially in the masters’ programmes, and many many many are in couples by the end of the course.
Not always straight het couples: our city’s Pride parade coincides with the start of teaching on the Overseas students induction course, and some of us make sure all the students know it’s there.
Can’t imagine why these guys have problems getting laid…
Christ on a effing stick…
@theKND
This inspired me to make my own comic. I’m gonn a credit this laid and make one where the first pannel is like her hating her hair being pulled but accept when my parents would threaten to spank me and then now with my fiance it’s like oh yes thank you sir, may I have another.
Wow, I mean, where to start with this? It’s completely telling about how much they lack any concept of relationship dynamics and the disdain they have for women’s sexual agency. When I read the first post, I was confused at first as I figured that hateful assholes would be in to dominance/submission kinks if it meant they were the dominant ones, but as the bile flowed, it started to mesh with the rest of their awfulness, as they’re under the impression that any woman deriving pleasure from submission is a sign of the “degeneracy” of the gender as a whole. But what they really hate is that women have any choice in who it is that gets to do the hair pulling (or as Bina pointed out, if they get to do it at all). From what I understand*, dominant/submissive relationships are built on a deep abiding trust and require that trust to derive pleasure in a manner safe for both parties. Whatever submission is symbolized by the pulling of hair, it’s one that is consented to by a partner seeking that pleasure and done with the goal of shared pleasure in mind, it’s not done with contempt for the pull-ee on the part of the pull-er and that’s what these guys are unable to wrap their heads around.
*Note: I know nothing about BDSM, so if I get any of this wrong, feel free to straighten me out.
@Thomas Andrews
The same kind of person that bases human sexuality on any kind of pornography, not realizing that they’re carefully structured fantasies and not an accurate reflection of reality.
As a side note, I couldn’t help but notice the “Falcons blew a 28-3 lead” meme. I’ve seen more than one CHUD touting this meme… is there a white supremacy aspect to this (Atlanta the black city/team, Boston the white city/team) or am I just reading too much into stupid CHUD memes?
Bluecat:
Yeah, I was also going to say that interracial South Asian and East Asian couples are vanishingly rare on my campus, too, and there are a lot of them attending courtesy of the med school… but then I got too grossed out that apparently dating your “looksmatch” also involves only dating within your race. The trajectory from Manospherean to Nazi is made ever more clear.
Off-topic, but Julian Assange has just been arrested in London.
@Katamount: Mostly it’s just making fun of the fact that the Falcons choked in Super Bowl 51 after having a 25-point lead late in the third quarter. Kyle Shanahan, who was Atlanta’s offensive co-ordinator at the time, is an arrogant dipstick who thinks he knows everything; his miscalculations helped set the table for New England’s fourth quarter comeback and eventual win in OT.