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Creepy, woman-hating white supremacists rush to defense of creepy, woman-hating white supremacist Tucker Carlson

Tucker, saying something reprehensible, probably

By David Futrelle

As you no doubt have heard, Media Matters’ Madeline Peltz recently dug up a bunch of rather remarkably creepy things that white supremacist Fox News host Tucker Carlson said on the radio some years back.

Talking to noted radio personality Bubba the Love Sponge, Carlson — among other things — defended a pedophile cult leader who’d just been convicted of facilitating child rape; said he “would love [the] scenario” of 14-year-old girls having sex with each other so long as his own 14-year-old daughter weren’t involved; defended female teachers having sex — that is, raping — 13-year-old boys because he feels they’re “doing a service to all 13-year-old girls by taking the [sexual] pressure off” of them; and that women are “extremely primitive” creatures who secretly love it when men order them “to be quiet and … do what you’re told.”

Today, Media Matters posted more audio excerpts from Carlson, this time full of racist rhetoric and white supremacist talking points; among other things, the Fox News host declared Iraqis to be a bunch of “semiliterate primitive monkeys.” 

So, naturally, MAGAs and their far-right fellow travelers are rallying around him, with many figures on the far right not simply minimizing his remarks — as Carlson himself has, by calling them merely “naughty” — but defending his truly repellent views on child rape and women’s alleged inferiority.

More than a few of his defenders are, unsurprisingly, blaming “the Jews” for Media Matters’ diabolical plan to smear Carlson by … accurately reporting things he said publicly to the massive audience of a radio show he regularly called in to.

So who’s lining up to support Carlson today?

Donald Trump Jr, the alt-right-adjacent son of our white supremacist president.

Then there’s the alt-lite grifter and former Pizzagate conspiracy monger Jack Posobiec, who has tweeted in defense of Tucker literally dozens of times in the past day or so. The not so-coded antisemitic insinuation in this tweet is a bonus bit of terrible:

Former Klan leader and present-day dirty old man David Duke was a little less subtle:

https://twitter.com/DrDavidDuke/status/1105138876010631168

Daily Stormer head boy Andrew Anglin not only denounced the attacks on Tucker by “the Soros-backed organization Media Matters,” he declared that none of what Tucker said “is especially outrageous and I agree with all of it.”

Oddball right-wing grifter/conspiracist/supplement salesman Mike Cernovich — who’s had his own legal issues with rape — has thrown his support solidly behind Tucker on the grounds that all the quotes from Tucker are more than five years old and he probably didn’t really say them anyway, since “audio can be edited to say anything,” though he offers no proof that the audio was doctored and actually hasn’t even bothered to listen to it.

Racist conspiracy-slinger Paul Joseph Watson apparently remembered that the best defense is a good offense, but then forgot to make his offense even vaguely comprehensible. What is he even talking about here?

Gamergate dead-ender Ian Miles Cheong offered a similarly muddled defense of Tucker:

Meanwhile, over on the Nazi-infested Twitter alternative Gab, Tucker fans are having an extremely normal one.


Shane Bunting @P1M
10 hours ago · edited
It is GOOD for girls to marry at 16. David Lane taught this. Bernhardt Klassen taught this. Adolf Hitler concurred and so too Tuck Carlson and Varg Vilernes. What's more, the #14Words endorse polygamy as well as the capture and reeducation of thots. David Lane taught it was okay for a guy to be in his 20s "kidnapping" a 16 year old thot. I stand with David Eden Lane.*

ION✔️ @Ionwhite PRO
11 hours ago · edited
If the Jews themselves can't bring an alpha white male down, they send in their feminists to do it --- and I predict, it's going to work. They will destroy Tucker. 

Tucker talks just like my dad and brother and any other man in my life whom I love and respect.   Fuck Feminists.  Normal women need to abandon all contact with them, and stop approving of "some" things they stand for. 

Either we are all in with these horrible women or we are all out and act defensively against them - for our own and our children's sakes and the sake of men, there is no inbetween.   Our dads, brothers and husbands, our kids are targeted by these freaks and they will destroy them.

The only way to fight back is to refuse these slags any power over right wing women. These are essentially weak and broken women who can do nothing on their own and who's only power is in mob attack and mob rule.
the Moloch worshippers over at Media Matters took a break from the nightly ritual sacrifice long enough to spray some of the sewage which they consume regularly as part of a campaign against Tucker. 

ok the only pigs here are those who are doing the squealing knowing what's just around the corner.

Our old, er, friend Heartiste — everybody’s favorite racist narcissist “pickup artist” — not only agreed with Tucker; he suggested that Tucker stole his ideas from him. (Never mind that Carlson made many of his worst remarks before Heartiste even started the blog that later became Chateau Heartiste.)


Heartiste @Heartiste
a day ago
If tucker said this, then he is practically cribbing from my blog. 
my god, do you know what this means? 
he gathers his family around to read my blog poasts!

Really swell bunch of fans you’ve got there, Tucker!

EDIT: Added tweets from Cernovich.

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Ariblester
Ariblester
1 year ago

James Gunn was summarily fired for less than this. This is apparently what counts for justice to the right-wing.

Redsilkphoenix: Jetpack Vixen, Intergalactic Meanie
Redsilkphoenix: Jetpack Vixen, Intergalactic Meanie
1 year ago

What…is the phrase “Yaaas kween slaaay” supposed to actually be, once the vowels get shortened to their proper length again? (And do I really want to know?)

Not to mention the “10 year old crossdressing boy who strips at a gay strip club in 2019.” What the heck is that a reference too? O.o

kupo
kupo
1 year ago

@Redsilkphoenix

What…is the phrase “Yaaas kween slaaay” supposed to actually be, once the vowels get shortened to their proper length again? (And do I really want to know?)

Yes queen slay. (Oh no, how dare leftists encourage drag queens!)

Not to mention the “10 year old crossdressing boy who strips at a gay strip club in 2019.” What the heck is that a reference too? O.o

Sigh…probably this kid. Apparently it’s okay for little kids to dress up in tons of makeup and hyper-feminine clothing and call it a beauty pageant, but if it’s a drag show it’s immoral.

Jane Done
Jane Done
1 year ago

None of this matters anymore. Words don’t matter. Reality doesn’t matter. Accountability is dead. The world is so upside-down that some(white man) can literally say child rape isn’t rape because *reasons I just pulled out of my ass* and then say “I got myself in a position that seems like I’m defending it” and allswell that endswell.

No consequences. No change. The alt-right white-supremacist male-supremacist nazi machine rages on with no stopping or slowing.

The right-wingers in power actively churn the extremist pot, throwing their support into barbaric, far-right conspiracy groups, and the left-wing governors just apathetically say “please, kind sir, stop that”. I don’t know if the new (democratic) socialist movement is up to the task of slowing this raging-trainwreck-in-progress before it kills us all or if it’s too little too late.

@Redsilkphoenix: IIRC there’s quite a few young drag stars with incredible talent that have made the news in the past few years. “Stripping” is just made-up bullshit because facts don’t matter anymore, all that matters is adding more fuel to the firehose.

Kestrel
Kestrel
1 year ago

@kupo I should not have followed that link. I am over 40 and have not accomplished nearly a tenth as much as he has. I may need to review my life choices.

On the other hand, Desmond is a truly amazing kid and I can’t wait to see how he and those inspired by him change the world.

tim gueguen
1 year ago

I’m guessing Cernovich’s “5 year statute of limitations” lasts about 2 seconds if any of those he considers enemies are involved.

(I keep wanting to call him Cervixitch.)

I wonder if this Watson fellow isn’t referring to high school students doing things like wearing blackface and doing Nazi salutes on Facebook and elsewhere.

Ariblester
Ariblester
1 year ago

tim gueguen wrote on
March 11, 2019 at 11:00 pm:

I wonder if this Watson fellow isn’t referring to high school students doing things like wearing blackface and doing Nazi salutes on Facebook and elsewhere.

Watson was probably referring to the Covington School boys who were at the March for Life.

Rabid Rabbit
Rabid Rabbit
1 year ago

OT but also gross: Today in internalized misogyny, it was discovered that an Italian court of appeals overturned two men’s rape convictions on the grounds that the victim was too ugly. Based on a photo, the judges decided she looked “too masculine” for her story to be credible.

All three judges were women.

Blargh.

At least their verdict was overturned, and there’ll be a retrial…

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/11/men-acquitted-of-charges-because-victim-judged-too-masculine

Ooglyboggles
Ooglyboggles
1 year ago

Well I hope this leads to a loss in advertisements for Fox which would lead to them firing Tucker Carlson.

There’s no faking it when it comes to pundits like these. It’s bigotry all the way down.

Talonknife
Talonknife
1 year ago

The real question is how this was a news story in the first place. Hasn’t Tucker Carlson been saying shit like this on his public television show for years now?

Nikki the Bluth Wannabe
Nikki the Bluth Wannabe
1 year ago

Seconding kupo

Sigh…probably this kid. Apparently it’s okay for little kids to dress up in tons of makeup and hyper-feminine clothing and call it a beauty pageant, but if it’s a drag show it’s immoral.

and Ariblester

Watson was probably referring to the Covington School boys who were at the March for Life.

epronovost
epronovost
1 year ago

I just realised that 10 years ago was 2009. How could this kind of talk be even remotely acceptable back then? That’s the sort of stuff you could expect from a conservative pundit in the 50’s.

Amtep
Amtep
1 year ago

Sebastian Gorka, the third-creepiest man in the Trump Administration, jumped in to defend him, too.

https://mobile.twitter.com/SebGorka/status/1105091565024878592

With supporters like these, who needs detractors?

Weatherwax
Weatherwax
1 year ago

I misunderstood David Duke (which is usually a blessing as what he actually means is generally toxic), and my brain went off on a tangent…

Could there have even been Zionists at the time of the Crucifixion? Were they lobbying for the unification of Judea & Samaria?* Or could you say the anti-Roman rebellion were Zionists?

And then I realised he meant Carlson & Trump, rather than Christ, and (presumably) not literal crucifixion (unless things have taken a turn overnight, although I think that would knock the constant Brexit news off the lead even in the UK).

* Apologies to any actual experts of 1st Century CE history for errors; it’s not really my field.

Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
1 year ago

women are “extremely primitive” creatures . . .

Not like Tucker Carlson, with his well-thought-out, complex arguments.

. . . who secretly love it when men order them “to be quiet and … do what you’re told.”

This argument, for example.

Cat Mara
Cat Mara
1 year ago

I love the way Jack Posobiec feels the need to prefix that he’s an “author” onto his Twitter display name. Is “author” an honorific now? Why didn’t I get the memo?

(I suspect it’s more like the online equivalent of Rincewind embroidering “WIZZARD” onto his hat in the Discworld novels)

Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
1 year ago

@Kat

Also this argument, in which he took Samantha Bee to task for using the c-word to describe Ivanka Trump:

““That one word that [Bee] used. I don’t know any man who uses that word because it is kind of the one word that is actually degrading. It’s the thing that feminists are always telling us. That word really is.”

–Tucker Carlson monologue, 5/31/18

It’s only degrading, of course, when used against white Republican women. Then you get to clutch your fake pearls and assume the standard “did I just shit myself?” right-wing pundit expression.

Words, morality, and self-awareness don’t mean a thing to this crowd, except as a means to keep score and own the libs. It doesn’t matter that kids are being kept in cages, that people are being shot, poisoned, jailed, victimized, and disenfranchised on a daily basis, that life on earth is about to be decimated by climate change. The true outrage is the people who call attention to these problems, not the problems themselves.

All that matters is making sure white men always “win” the playground debate. Talk about primitive logic.

Ben
Ben
1 year ago

Wasn’t Cernovich one of the ones leading the charge to get Gunn fired for tweets that were well over five years old? Not that it matters, language is just mouth sounds and squiggly lines that exist only in order to own the libs.

moregeekthan
moregeekthan
1 year ago

Junior Mint is correct about one thing in this case. I would, in fact, like to see Tucker Carlson’s media career broken and ruined. I would say I plan to stop patronizing any of his sponsors, but any lists I have seen don’t include anything I am currently using. I will double check all the same.

DerangedDan
DerangedDan
1 year ago

Wasn’t Cernovich one of the ones leading the charge to get Gunn fired for tweets that were well over five years old? Not that it matters, language is just mouth sounds and squiggly lines that exist only in order to own the libs.

He sure was. And he even mentions Gunn in his other tweet on the subject, as if he wasn’t completely contradicting himself. Cernovich has never done anything in good faith in his life, though, so it’s hardly surprising.

Violet the Vile, Moonbat Screech Junky
Violet the Vile, Moonbat Screech Junky
1 year ago

It is GOOD for girls to marry at 16. David Lane taught this. Bernhard Klassen taught this. Adolf Hitler concurred and so too Tuck Carlson and Varg Vilernes.

Those are all middle-aged men. It always really makes me laugh when a bunch of middle aged men get together to pat each other on the back while agreeing they, and they alone, know what’s best for teenage girls.

“Because of course we do. I mean, it’s not coloured by what we want at all, is it Brian?”
“No, it’s a completely logical and objective analysis, like us men are good at.”
“And as for the teenage girls, well, they obviously can’t think for themselves at all, can they? Being teenage and girls. Emotions, hormones, small brains. We know best.”
“You’re brilliant, you know that? You have a brilliant mind.”
“No, YOU’RE brilliant. Best damn brain in the business. Have some more port.”
“Thanks, don’t mind if I do.”

Katamount
Katamount
1 year ago

“I’m on television every weeknight live for an hour. If you want to know what I think, you can watch.”

That’s kinda the problem, Tucker. This shit is entirely consistent with the backwards attitudes you reinforce every night.

I was listening to Chapo’s take on this and they pointed out that this is the kind of sad, out of touch dad comedy that sounds awkward at best and horrific at worst to anybody under the age of 45 (or anybody with a functional empathy chip), but kills with a certain kind of throwback Boomer who embarrasses their son with stuff they heard on Stern. Apparently this kind of comedy was big in the mid 2000s. I never listened to satellite radio, but even in my late teens bouncing between Ebaumsworld and SomethingAwful days, I came across Bubba The Love Sponge clips and laughed at some of his Ned crank calls.

The problem is that this kind of “comedy” is the “stuff we all believe, but don’t say in polite society” genre. Hell, a female teacher raping her student and it being some kind of plaudit was the plot of the 2012 Adam Sandler movie That’s My Boy. It’s the kind of bro-culture bullshit that gave us Stifler from American Pie. These attitudes have been baked into the culture for a really long time and while nobody batted an eye 10-20 years ago, they’re starting to get some badly-needed re-evaluation now.

Katamount
Katamount
1 year ago

Incidentally, I think Paul Joseph Prison Planet is referring to the Covington kids getting blowback on Twitter.

Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie
Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie
1 year ago

Wow… it’s inspiring! (and by “inspiring, I mean “revolting”)….

No one can play the “silenced, oppressed, victim” like a white man worth $16m who hosts the third most watched opinion program, on a network that has 9 of the top 12 most watched news programs….

It’s really a wonder this story even made the papers.

Nowherepants
Nowherepants
1 year ago

Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie
Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie
1 year ago

@ Katamount:

kind of sad, out of touch dad comedy that sounds awkward at best and horrific at worst to anybody under the age of 45 (or anybody with a functional empathy chip), but kills with a certain kind of throwback Boomer who embarrasses their son with stuff they heard on Stern. Apparently this kind of comedy was big in the mid 2000s

My generic for this kind of “comedy” is/was Andrew “dice” Clay

Jenora Feuer
Jenora Feuer
1 year ago

The closest thing to a positive non-alt-right comment I heard on this was from Ed Brayton, who pretty much hates everything Carlson stands for:

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/dispatches/2019/03/12/tucker-carlsons-misogynistic-comments-resurface/

But I’ll give him credit for refusing to offer an apology that no one would believe anyway. Any apology he offered would be empty because his current views are just as disgusting as the ones he expressed before.

Granted, that’s not exactly ‘positive’.

AsAboveSoBelow
AsAboveSoBelow
1 year ago

I prefer novelist Tim Dorsey’s fictional version of Bubba: Boris the Hateful Piece of Shit. At least the name is accurate.

Shock jocks are assholes.

Moggie
Moggie
1 year ago

Weird Mike refers to himself in the third person? Well, my days of not taking him seriously are certainly coming to a middle.

Lumipuna (nee Arctic Ape)
Lumipuna (nee Arctic Ape)
1 year ago

Weatherwax – I’m not quite sure about the proper definition of “zionist” myself, but I get a sense that the likes of David Duke use it vaguely to mean “Jew who’s particularly dedicated in being Jewish; Jewish supremacist; Jewish elite cabal member”.

They seem to use it like some antifeminists use “radical feminist”, trying to pretend they care about distinctions, they aren’t necessarily against all Jews/feminists, it’s just that some Jews/feminists are particularly evil in some unspecified way.

Lainy
Lainy
1 year ago

. . . who secretly love it when men order them “to be quiet and … do what you’re told.”

Honey try to plan a surprise party for me and you’ll find out how much I like to do what I’m told. No one in my life can surprise me because I refuse to do anything or go anywhere unless you tell me what’s going on.

Jane Done
Jane Done
1 year ago

@Weird Eddie: of course tucker is pulling the “oppressed” card (while also strutting out his “they’ll never beat us” and “triggered snowflake libs don’t stand a chance”. Funny how that
totally-not-fascist simultaneously strong and weak thing keeps coming up)

As I’ve said countless times, the loudest whiners are the most privileged, coddled infants.

[Tucker] also said that women enjoy being told to “be quiet and kind of do what you’re told”

Truth be told, I DO enjoy being told that. I also enjoy responding with “make me, little boy” 🤣

Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie
Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie
1 year ago

@ Jane Done:

(full disclosure, I’m a white guy… white, male, xian upbringing, cis, het, not skinny, but not really fat… great bleeding shit, I’m EVERYBODY’S enemy 🙁 🙁 🙁 )

Anyways, the “white male as oppressed minority” thing is growing real long in the tooth…. I’ve hit up trumpling acquaintances about it, and after I give them the straight skinny on how white guys are REALLY doing (which they already know), I get a look from them that just screams “I know, but I get away with crying about my poor lot in life, anyway”…

I’m following with glee (and popcorn) the scandal about rich folks cheating and bribing their mediocre kids’ way into high-end colleges…

https://deadspin.com/here-are-all-the-incredible-details-from-the-college-ad-1833236579

… tempered, of course, by the knowledge that people in that socio-economic class NEVER go to jail 🙁 🙁 🙁

Diego Duarte
Diego Duarte
1 year ago

@Rabid Rabbit

Today in internalized misogyny, it was discovered that an Italian court of appeals overturned two men’s rape convictions on the grounds that the victim was too ugly. Based on a photo, the judges decided she looked “too masculine” for her story to be credible.

Yup, a fellow countrywoman. Not too surprised by this because Italians are notorious for being disgustingly racist. Internalized misogyny is a thing too, but the most obvious factor here is the fucking racism behind claiming that a Latina is too masculine to be considered “rapeable”.

Victorious Parasol
1 year ago

@WeirdEddie

I’ve been semi-following the college admission scandal, and I’m torn between feeling disgusted at the parents who make the bribes, and disgusted at the universities who accept the bribes; and feeling sorry for the kids who never asked for this, and who probably assumed they were getting in on their own merits.

Chris Oakley
1 year ago

As I said at Kinja.com yesterday, Tucker Carlson’s very existence calls Darwin’s theory of evolution into question.

Rabid Rabbit
Rabid Rabbit
1 year ago

@Diego Duarte:

Ah, crap, I didn’t even consider the racist angle. It all suddenly makes (a horrible sort of) sense.

@Weatherwax:

Could there have even been Zionists at the time of the Crucifixion? Were they lobbying for the unification of Judea & Samaria?* Or could you say the anti-Roman rebellion were Zionists?

They were gone before the Romans, but the Maccabees would probably count, in terms of people looking back to them as what had been and might be again. And the Zealots would probably have a good claim.

The real Zionists, though, were clearly the Judean People’s Front. Or possibly the People’s Front of Judea.

Curious_Diversions
Curious_Diversions
1 year ago

Compare the reaction to “rape little girls” to what happened when Milo tossed out his “pedophiles are good fun for little boys” comment. Tucker gets held up as a hero for by the worst of humanity. Milo gets shunned and abandoned by same. They’re both garbage humans.

Illuminating regarding the value placed on vulnerable humans based on their assigned sex.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
1 year ago

Splitter!!!

Alexis Filth
1 year ago

@Katamount
I dunno, I quit listening to Chapo when it became clear that their entire mission in life was to be smug purity trolls and shit on everyone that isn’t living in a blue enclave and therefore has the luxury of demanding leftist perfection from their politicians.
Also, the last episode of theirs I listened to was them using transphobic “jokes” to dunk on someone, and I don’t willingly subject myself to that sort of shit.
Maybe they’ve improved since late 2017, I dunno, but for the most part they actively bother me.

Catalpa
Catalpa
1 year ago

great bleeding shit, I’m EVERYBODY’S enemy 🙁

Privilege doesn’t automatically make someone an enemy. It does mean that that person benefits from societal hierarchies that systematically harm and oppress people who do not enjoy the same privilege, though. Which tends to make privileged folks:

1) less likely to be aware of, understand, or sympathize with people who go through struggles the privileged folks have never had to face.

2) more likely to be invested in maintaining their unfair advantage, either by claiming it doesn’t exist/isn’t as bad as it seems or by actively participating in the harmful systems rather than working to dismantle them.

Climbing out of (and staying out of) these two shitty mindsets takes effort, since they’re basically instilled in us (I’m whiter than printer paper myself) from birth. It’s something that has to be consistently maintained and improved. But it can be done, and it is worth it.

(Yeah, I know you were most likely being facetious and I’m not saying anything new, but, eh. It’s been typed out now.)

IgnoreSandra
IgnoreSandra
1 year ago

@Lainy

Honey try to plan a surprise party for me and you’ll find out how much I like to do what I’m told. No one in my life can surprise me because I refuse to do anything or go anywhere unless you tell me what’s going on.

Honestly this just sounds like a good survival strategy. I’m the same way, folks keep getting on my case for “ruining” things.

Kevin R.
1 year ago

The problem is that this kind of “comedy” is the “stuff we all believe, but don’t say in polite society” genre. Hell, a female teacher raping her student and it being some kind of plaudit was the plot of the 2012 Adam Sandler movie That’s My Boy. It’s the kind of bro-culture bullshit that gave us Stifler from American Pie. These attitudes have been baked into the culture for a really long time and while nobody batted an eye 10-20 years ago, they’re starting to get some badly-needed re-evaluation now.

The thing about Stifler was, he was a villain in the first American Pie movie, the douchebag jock who harasses the protagonists for the amusement of himself and his friends while pretending to be their buddy.

But, as if to prove your point, he was also many people’s favorite character in that film. A lot of the American Pie ripoffs that came out in the early ’00s featured Stifler-esque characters as unambiguous heroes, and even the sequels expanded his role and turned him into a lovable goofball.

Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
1 year ago

@Buttercup Q. Skullpants

I don’t know any man who uses that word [cunt] because it is kind of the one word that is actually degrading. –Tucker Carlson

Ha, ha, ha. Of course he doesn’t know any man who would call a woman a cunt. Of course.

All that matters is making sure white men always “win” the playground debate. Talk about primitive logic.

Nailed it, BQS.

Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
1 year ago

I don’t know any man who uses that word [cunt] because it is kind of the one word that is actually degrading. –Tucker Carlson

Because those who use these words to describe a woman are not attempting to degrade her: battleaxe, cocktease, hag, nag, slut, bimbo, bitch, harridan, dog, mattress, etc., etc., etc.

AcidTrial
AcidTrial
1 year ago

What really gets me about these people’s is the outrage is always selective. There is no consistency to their ideology other than just wanting to be as obnoxious, hateful, and generally-an-ass as possible. Whenever the topic is sexual assault and its victims, they complain, “what about he male victims”, and yet, when one of “their guys” (like Mr. Carlson here) are equally dismissive of said victims, their responses range from “don’t care” to “well, he’s right”.

I guess I should know better than to expect any kind of intellectual or moral honesty from the right, and yet here we are.

Rhuu - apparently an illiterati
Rhuu - apparently an illiterati
1 year ago

WHOOPS WRONG TAB. nothing to see here~

Robert
Robert
1 year ago

Weatherwax, Rapid Rabbit – the situation in Judea under Roman rule/control is both remarkably complicated and utterly dismaying. When the Maccabees seized control, they set up the Hasmonean dynasty, which some opposed because it wasn’t part of the Davidic covenant. Then the Herodians overthrew the Hasmoneans and exterminated the heirs, which added an entire layer of horror. The Zealots wanted the Romans out, the Sicarii terrorised Jews who collaborated with the Romans, and nobody liked the priestly families who were running the Temple. If the Romans *had* just pulled out, it would have been like the Thirty Years War in an area smaller than New Jersey.

It’s amazing that anyone ever got anything done.

Jane Done
Jane Done
1 year ago

@Weird Eddie

Surely by now you have read about the hilarious FBI bust on and subsequent dismantling of The Edge College & Career Network (aka The Key), and its nefarious efforts to get the underachieving sons and daughters of the rich into colleges they either didn’t deserve to attend on merits or couldn’t bribe their way into the old-fashioned way.

Personally I can’t laugh at yet another reminder that enough wealth allows people to take anything they want and that, in over a thousand years, things have barely improved.

@Weird Eddie, Catalpa

[privilege causes people to be]

1) less likely to be aware of, understand, or sympathize with people who go through struggles the privileged folks have never had to face.

2) more likely to be invested in maintaining their unfair advantage, either by claiming it doesn’t exist/isn’t as bad as it seems or by actively participating in the harmful systems rather than working to dismantle them.

Number 2 can and does happen even without privilege, as internalised bigotry. I was homophobic as a kid. I also used to think welfare et. al, higher education was a waste of money. The craziest thing is, I grew up being always hungry because my parents couldn’t afford to feed their kids enough food as children. Not that I starved, obviously, but snacking was never an option, and meal portions were given frugally, and yet still my dad always trotted out that one time that one person tried to do something while on welfare and it went terribly, ergo all government handouts are bad, unless you’re literally starving to death and homeless. Also people with drug problems don’t count cause they did it to themselves (so he said).

Personally this is why I think society needs to stop emphasising empathy, and focus on sympathy. Everyone in the world can’t possibly experience everything. People need to be able to feel a shared humanness without sharing experiences.

kobun37
kobun37
1 year ago

Looking at the comment sections of a couple of articles about this on other sites, I think what apalls me the most is the number of people lining up to support him because “He’s our guy and we have to defend him against teh liberals.” They try to minimize it by saying it was to long ago to matter or it was on a shock jock radio show, as if those things matter. Or they defect by pointing at Bill Clinton or Robert Byrd.

They either actually support what Carlson said because it’s what they believe or they are so brainwashed it doesn’t matter to them because he’s “one of us” and there is nothing he could have said or done that they wouldn’t excuse. If there was evidence he committed a terrible crime they would probably dismiss it.

I don’t know which is worse.