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Incel creep: Guys with small dicks should be allowed to have sex with 12-year-olds

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By David Futrelle

In case you missed this horror when it appeared on Reddit last week, here’s an ingenious “solution” for incels oppressed by having non-porn-star sized penises.

Any by “ingenious” I mean “so utterly repulsive it may destroy your last remaining shred of hope for humanity.”

In a post on the Incels.is forums with the seemingly innocuous title “Dick Quotas,” a dude calling himself Mainländer announced what he called “a genius idea to make society and the sexual market fairer.”

Prepare yourself.

We all know being a dicklet sucks and foids will ridicule you for it, and most men want to fuck JBs [jailbaits], so why don’t we make the AoC [Age of Consent] dependent on the guy’s dick size?

[inwardly screaming]

If your cock is 3 inches or less, the AoC is 12 for you.
If your cock is between 3 and 4 inches, the AoC is 13 for you.
If your cock is between 4 and 5 inches, the AoC is 14 for you.
If your cock is between 5 and 6 inches, the AoC is 15 for you.
If your cock is between 6 and 7 inches, the AoC is 16 for you.
If your cock is between 7 and 8 inches, the AoC is 17 for you.
If your cock is 8 inches or more, the AoC is 18 for you.

In addition to everything else that’s fucked-up about this tweet — underage girls aren’t prizes to be given out to men to compensate them for their alleged penile shortcomings — it’s based on a bizarrely pornified notion of what counts as a small dick. The average penis size is between 5 and 6 inches, and most cis men have penises somewhere in or near that range. Only a tiny percentage of men dicks that are 8 inches long or larger. And most women don’t give a shit about dick size. This is just an excuse for Mainländer to fantasize about underage girls.

Everyone wins.

Yeah, everyone except the UNDERAGE GIRLS YOU’LL BE RAPING.

In case you’re wondering, Mainländer isn’t some teenager or drive-by troll. He’s posted more than 14,000 comments on Incels.is, and describes himself as being older than 30. (One commenter in the thread refers to him as a man in his 50s.)

No jokes this time. It really seems like this open pedo shit is becoming more common on Incels.is, with an increasing number of incels convinced not only that they’re oppressed by adult women refusing to have sex with them but also because they can’t have sex with underage girls.

Incel forums are toxic in pretty much every way it’s possible to be toxic. These guys aren’t venting. They aren’t providing support for one another. They’re turning themselves and each other into even worse human beings every day they spend on forums like this. And making themselves ever more miserable and bitter in the process.

H/T — r/IncelTears

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mitzirocker
mitzirocker
2 years ago

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

:deep breath:

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Surplus to Requirements, Observer of the Vast Blight-Wing Enstupidation
Surplus to Requirements, Observer of the Vast Blight-Wing Enstupidation
2 years ago

Anyone who posts regularly to an incel site ought to be on a watchlist.

Ariblester
Ariblester
2 years ago

Mainländer wrote:

most men want to fuck JBs [jailbaits]

Firstly, [citation needed].

Secondly, I’m pretty sure that the converse does not hold true. So why the fuck would this even be worth bringing up?

Oh yeah, that’s because incels don’t regard women as people.

And yet they still worry about “consent”? Or are they using that term simply because it’s commonly used, without examining what it actually means?

Probably the latter.

Lainy
Lainy
2 years ago

STOP WANTING TO HAVE SEX WITH CHILDREN YOU DISGUSTING CREATURES I’M ASHAMED TO SHARE A SPECIES WITH. Got that off of my chest.

Bina
2 years ago

When I was 12, I wasn’t even ready to have a puppy-love, handy-holdy boyfriend yet. Much less sex with a repulsive, way-older “dicklet”.

Ugh.

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

If you have to have acronyms for jailbait and age of consent, you might be a fucked up terrible person.

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Alex
Alex
2 years ago

I’m not big on government observance of internet behaviour, for a host of reasons, but man, if you’re posting justifications for violence against women and rape, especially child rape, that feels fucking justified to me. It’s not just passively looking into it, for research or whatever, but you’re putting yourself out there in support of it. That seems pretty reasonable to monitor to me. I’m not a lawyer, and I understand the civil rights implications, but Jesus Christ, maybe instead of targeting sex workers out of the vague perception that trafficking could be happening, the government ought to be going after people who have proven to produce violent offenders and create a breeding ground for them. Because this shit is fucking terrifying. And it’s only a matter of time someone is arrested for raping a young girl and cites inceldom as his motivation, as all their violent “heroes” have. It needs cracking down on. It’s actively harmful. Terrifyingly harmful, at that.

Scildfreja Unnyðnes
Scildfreja Unnyðnes
2 years ago

Ah, but there’s no such thing as rape culture.

jsrtheta
jsrtheta
2 years ago

Is he sure that’s right?

I though AOC meant something different.

LindsayIrene
LindsayIrene
2 years ago

I think the only gif that expresses how this makes me feel is the one from the pie-eating scene in Stand By Me.

epronovost
epronovost
2 years ago

I’m a strait cisgender dude so my experience might be limited, but I have never, ever, EVER heard any women talk about dick size or care about dick size. It seems to me that the only demographic that seems to care about dick size are a subset of incredibly insecure men and as Simone de Beauvoir said: “nothing is more vicious and contemptful of women then a man insecure about his own virility”.

Rabid Rabbit
Rabid Rabbit
2 years ago

@jsrtheta:

Is he sure that’s right?

I though AOC meant something different.

WE MUST RECLAIM THE ACRONYM FROM THE SJWS! SJWS MUST NOT BE ALLOWED TO HAVE ANYTHING! WE MUST FIND A WAY TO LINK AOC THE CONGRESSWOMAN TO PEDOPHILIA! AOC EATS PIZZA SOMETIMES, CLEARLY SHE’S LINKED TO A CHILD MOLESTER RING!!! SHE WAS HAVING PEDO ORGIES WITH HILLARY!!! HILLARY PROBABLY MOLESTED HER AT A PIZZA PARLOR AND TURNED HER SOCIALIST THAT WAY!!!

Also, I should be allowed to have sex with a 12 year-old. But that doesn’t make me a pedo! Because if I were a pedo that would make me a pizza-eating socialist! And we all know that socialists want to redistribute everything, and females are things that ought to be redistributed to those who need sex! Each incel according to his sexual needs! Wait, didn’t Lenin say that? NOOOOOO! Not a socialist not a socialist, not a…

Note: this post contains multiple levels of sarcasm.

Also, I almost wish Walter hadn’t been banned. I would treasure his thoughts on this.

Ooglyboggles
Ooglyboggles
2 years ago

Brb calling Child Protection Services on them.

Catalpa
Catalpa
2 years ago

I propose a different system. The age of consent remains as it is, except for people who identify as incels and regularly post on incel forums. Age of consent will be the standard age plus 150 years for anyone who is targeted by self-identified incels, in order to protect those who may be harmed by coming into contact with such noxious persons.

Chris Oakley
2 years ago

I’m facepalming so hard right now my neighbors can feel the shockwave.

Rabid Rabbit
Rabid Rabbit
2 years ago

OT: Has anyone else seen this? If you thought the “You don’t mean vulva, you mean vagina” guy was the epitome of mansplaining, someone has decided to challenge him for the title: https://www.theguardian.com/society/shortcuts/2019/mar/06/how-many-tampons-do-you-need-this-man-will-explain

ROBERT B ESTRADA
ROBERT B ESTRADA
2 years ago

Early in my career I worked as an application engineer for the sales department of a small company. There were 3 of us in the group, a 25 year old manager (a born again Christian), a 25 year old me (an atheist since birth), and a 17 year old high school work experience dog’s body {raging hormones}. The manager was always referring to his girlfriend as “*****rotten crotch. I can’t even…. The topper came one day when the dog’s body was bragging about his conquests among the girls at his school and the manager made the statement “Well I like to think that if I weren’t a good Christian I’d be out there getting my share of the girls” One, would a good Christian like to think that? Two, who, the mayonnaise on French fries, ever said that your existence entitled you to any female companion, much less a “share”? These troglodytes have always been around but the net has made them worse.

Meteor
2 years ago

I need that Spider Man meme that says, “I’ll go away, and come back when there’s less weird shit.”

Wetherby
Wetherby
2 years ago

I’m a strait cisgender dude so my experience might be limited, but I have never, ever, EVER heard any women talk about dick size or care about dick size.

That largely tallies with my own experience, to which I’ll add that two partners of mine have reminisced less than fondly about having to deal with the reality of an excessively large penis, which turned out to be about a gazillion miles removed from the fantasy.

I once saw a porn film in which a ludicrously over-endowed man had to use his hand as a spacer to make sure that he didn’t penetrate his partner too deeply. It just looked incredibly awkward and uncomfortable for both parties, and that was in the context of something that was trying (albeit failing) to come across as erotic.

Nequam
Nequam
2 years ago

I wish we had a Font of Sarcasm here so you all would properly appreciate the tone in which I write “I can’t *wait* for Walter to chime in on this one.”

contrapangloss
contrapangloss
2 years ago

@Rabid Rabbit

OMG Period Guy!

I give him +2 points for trying to do math and not totally failing at *the math* portion of it. However, he gets negative infinity points for real world applications.

Because, dude, it doesn’t matter if your 5 ml absorbent magic tampon can hold 5 mls… for health reasons they really, really ought to be swapped out pretty frequently because women tend to not like DYING OF TOXIC SHOCK SYNDROME which can be caused by little things like LEAVING THE STINKING TAMPON IN UNTIL IT REACHES ABSOLUTE OPTIMUM MONEY SAVING SATURATION.

Also, you know, some women can’t use tampons. Like, they just can’t.

@Thread, yelling at the off topic fun thing, because I’m a little too creeped out and horrified to deal with the actual article topic. Like, this dude needs to NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER be around children, EVER.

Also, I’ve been doing thermal systems homework for 5 hours and am super tired, so all caps is a thing?

Rabid Rabbit
Rabid Rabbit
2 years ago

@contrapangloss

I’d love to know Period Guy’s philosophy on best-before dates. Does he agree that something that’s best before 13/04/2019 won’t automatically kill you one minute past midnight on 14/04/2019, or does he start getting icked out at the thought of eating it a month before then?

It’s unfair of me, I’m sure, but for some reason I’m assuming the latter.

(It’s late and I’m tired and mildly inebriated, so the link between the two may not be as clear to everyone as it is in my head. Apologies if this makes no sense.)

TheKND
TheKND
2 years ago

Ok… why are these people not on watch-lists? I mean… this isn’t funny anymore! They literally reduce women to vaginal circumference modifiers! (Points for whoever gets that reference). This isn’t about “Age of Consent”, it’s about “Age of having a sex toy that I can hit when it dares to have an opinion”.

Lumipuna (nee Arctic Ape)
Lumipuna (nee Arctic Ape)
2 years ago

He’s posted more than 14,000 comments on Incels.is

Really? How long has the subreddit even been running? Wasn’t it created just a couple years ago when Reddit was playing Whack-a-mole with hate groups?

Lumipuna (nee Arctic Ape)
Lumipuna (nee Arctic Ape)
2 years ago

I imagine if you’re both incel and genuinely insecure about your penis size, you might too self-centered/intellectually lazy to consider that other people generally have no way of actually knowing your penis size. This is a fairly common intellectual failing.

That is, unless you’re the kind of guy who uses penis size report as a regular pickup line. But then, you probably wouldn’t do that if you felt genuinely insecure?

Then again, incels seem to also often believe that having a large dick correlates with being a “Chad” (or even more so “Tyrone”), so women can easily guess your penis size from your general outlook. Obviously, with the help of porn most incels can easily convince themselves that their own dick is below average, and any incel who actually has a huge dick wouldn’t dare mention it to other incels because they hate anything that disrupts the narrative.

As for ridicule, it seems to be incels’ dramatic way of expressing their chronic sense of betrayal because they aren’t being sufficiently socially validated – with sexual pleasure, love, admiration, respect, friendliness, attention. With this language, incels are convincing themselves and each other that a random woman on street not smiling at you is as bad as literal ridicule or disgust.

misophistry
misophistry
2 years ago

I had sex with a guy with a big dick once. It was awful. Condom kept pinging off.

Someone needs to sort these incels out.

Meerkat
Meerkat
2 years ago

If you die of toxic shock syndrome you won’t require additional tampons, making this the most effective way to reduce expenditure on tampons! Reminds me of that article about computers that learned how to cheat at games and tasks.

Skylalalalalalala
Skylalalalalalala
2 years ago

Wow, that tampon guy is a moron. Not just for the obvious reasons everyone else has mentioned, but because average is well…an average. And, imo, I think it’s low. But assuming it’s an actual average, that means there are women who don’t have anywhere near that much, and there are women who have way, way more. Like Diva cup claims the average period is 1 oz (which is a bit less than the 35 ml), the same size the cup holds. Meanwhile, some women are filling that thing every couple hours or less and would literally be having to change a tampon so often they aren’t worth bothering with.

Also, 9 periods a year???? I wish.

As for the actual post….I just can’t.

rugbyyogi
rugbyyogi
2 years ago

@epronovost and @wetherby

being a straight woman and kind of old and having fairly raunchy female friends, I can tell you that we have engaged in ‘dick size’ conversations. Occasionally about how too big is not good and really big is just not good AT ALL and how desperately sad that situation is. And how average is good and sometimes how a bit above average is really quite nice. Only rarely has anyone complained about too small penis size, but these weren’t average penis sizes but really, super small penises – so small that there were mechanical difficulties that could not be overcome by technique. I myself have never encountered such a penis-haver in such a situation.

But in general, most of my straight women friends have agreed that penis size is really quite incidental to one’s quality as a lover and entirely unrelated to one’s quality as a partner. My lesbian friends find them uninteresting or gross or occasionally an item of curiosity. I have never had a penis size convo with a gay male friend who was actually sexually active. But I would imagine that large penis size in that sphere is even more of an encumbrance. Dunno?

I have had penis size conversations with straight men. Some of them along the lines of Trumpian brags. One guy used ‘reverse psychology’ and claimed his small dick line was really effective when he was trying to pick up women, though he said he was probably just small side of average. I never put it to the test. Saddest and eventually most tiresome of all were ‘average’ dudes who were really hung up about their ‘small’ penis size.

Samantha Kaswell
Samantha Kaswell
2 years ago

Magistrate is looking more and more inviting.

And any puckercords who believe in and act on this nightmarish idea with either of my granddaughters will shortly (pun intended) find themselves having to use a microscope to find any shred of their nasty junk. Weaponizing sex by making it legal to rape children just so a “man,” and I use the term with great reservation, can get his useless rocks off is no way to find what he really wants.

Of course, finding what they really want and need would take time, deep analysis, and dedication. It would also require said “men” to stop blaming everyone else for their own unhappiness. Sadly, that seems to be more than many of them have the insight or patience for.

Is it my imagination that, as conditions for life on earth become more tenuous, more of these guys are showing up?

Ideas like his make me fear that the United States of Gilead may be closer than we think. Religious woman-hating control freaks like this have always been there to offer up women as the root cause of all THEIR evils and miseries, and absolute control of women as the only godly solution. Burn a woman and the world will be healed. And it is only the tiniest of steps to add gays, transexuals, bisexuals, artists and the intelligent and educated of all genders, colors and philosophies to the hate-fest and bonfire.

Samantha Kaswell
Samantha Kaswell
2 years ago

In my above post, magistrate was supposed to be Lysistrata, but my spell check had a stroke.

Sigh.

Yutolia the Green Hash Pronoun Boner
Yutolia the Green Hash Pronoun Boner
2 years ago

Lumipuna:

I imagine if you’re both incel and genuinely insecure about your penis size, you might too self-centered/intellectually lazy to consider that other people generally have no way of actually knowing your penis size. This is a fairly common intellectual failing.

I’ve had this discussion with a few different guys who were complaining that women only go home with guys who have huge penises. Each time when I brought up that we mostly can’t tell someone’s size with their pants on, I was told something along the lines of “well, I can tell how big your boobs are, so I don’t believe you.”

It feels like some weird kind of projection to me.

Wetherby
Wetherby
2 years ago

I’ve had this discussion with a few different guys who were complaining that women only go home with guys who have huge penises. Each time when I brought up that we mostly can’t tell someone’s size with their pants on, I was told something along the lines of “well, I can tell how big your boobs are, so I don’t believe you.”

This is of course stating what should be glaringly obvious, but unless he was sporting a visible boner at the time, this is impossible to tell. Flaccid penises vary dramatically in size, erect penises considerably less so, and I gather that it’s even harder to gauge their likely girth unless they’re erect.

And pretty much every woman I’ve ever discussed this with has confirmed that girth is where it really counts (one openly said that she’d much prefer four fat inches to eight thin ones), and that if they’re significantly longer than the five-to-six inch average there’s a real risk of hitting (and hurting) the cervix.

In any case, there’s loads you can do to satisfy your partner even if you’re one of the tiny percentage of men who really does have a noticeably smaller than average penis. I’m given to understand that a combo of two fingers massaging the G-spot while a thumb attends to the clitoris will significantly outweigh any kind of vaginal penetration by a comparatively blunt instrument like a penis when it comes to the woman’s sexual pleasure, and you don’t even need to have a penis at all to be able to facilitate this.

Lumipuna (nee Arctic Ape)
Lumipuna (nee Arctic Ape)
2 years ago

Samantha:

Magistrate is looking more and more inviting.

In fact, Lysistrata would’ve made a lot more sense if the women had simply sought divorce.

Yutolia:

Each time when I brought up that we mostly can’t tell someone’s size with their pants on, I was told something along the lines of “well, I can tell how big your boobs are, so I don’t believe you.”

Well, that’s an argument I didn’t expect.

Makroth
Makroth
2 years ago

@Meteor

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weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

I see some of you didn’t realize that there is a global penis size database we femoids can access. I even have the app on my phone. It notifies me of the penis size of every cis man within a hundred yard radius.

Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
2 years ago

@Yutolia

I’ve had this discussion with a few different guys who were complaining that women only go home with guys who have huge penises. Each time when I brought up that we mostly can’t tell someone’s size with their pants on, I was told something along the lines of “well, I can tell how big your boobs are, so I don’t believe you.”

I hear that making sense is completely passé these days.

Yutolia the Green Hash Pronoun Boner
Yutolia the Green Hash Pronoun Boner
2 years ago

I know, I was completely floored the first time I heard that. Not only does it not make sense in reality, but they also apparently don’t understand how breasts work.

The times after, it was like, OMG, I guess this is actually a thing… facepalm.

Lumipuna (nee Arctic Ape)
Lumipuna (nee Arctic Ape)
2 years ago

I see some of you didn’t realize that there is a global penis size database we femoids can access. I even have the app on my phone.

Is…the app available for us androids?

(In the light of general manospherian discourse, while it may not be healthy or make any sense, it should be perfectly plausible for a heterosexual man like me to purely non-sexually obsessed with other men’s penis sizes)

Catalpa
Catalpa
2 years ago

Like Diva cup claims the average period is 1 oz (which is a bit less than the 35 ml), the same size the cup holds.

What? That can’t possibly be right. A leading cause of me going all Elizabeth Bathroy on my knickers is having the cup overflow and break the seal, which generally happens somewhere midway through the period if I forget to change things out for 8+ hours. There’s no way that covers even the majority of the flow.

Hmm, maybe I just have freakishly voluminous periods. I suppose it’s possible.

Talonknife
Talonknife
2 years ago

@TheKND

They literally reduce women to vaginal circumference modifiers!

Welp, did not expect to see a F.A.T.A.L. reference here today…

TheKND
TheKND
2 years ago

@Talonknife

And I didn’t expect anyone to get it. Today has been worth it

Katamount
Katamount
2 years ago

Right, so I think we all need some Curious Zelda up in here:

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Setting the awful part aside, this is just another example of why comprehensive sex ed is so freakin’ important. For all intents and purposes (setting aside some of the amateur stuff of real couples), porn is fantasy, so when the fantasy is “hot women enjoy larger and larger objects jackhammering them in every orifice”, without somebody equipped with knowledge and some authority coming along and saying “Yeah, no, that’s really not how that works….,” that’s what the porn viewing public (read: everybody) is going to internalize.

Actually, that gives me an idea. When Premier Crack Mayor’s Brother ran on rolling back the sex ed curriculum to 1998, everyone responded by citing all of the trends of the 90s to show how out of touch they were. Perhaps the better tack would be frame it in the porn trends of the era:

“We should bring our sexual education curriculum out of the frosted-tips Silvia Saint Vivid days and into pubic-hair comeback Riley Reid Digital Playground days! I mean, come on people, get with the times! People have Pornhub now!”

Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
2 years ago

The most disturbing part of this is that the girls aren’t also being matched based on their equipment size….which, while still being incredibly disgusting, at least would make a tiny bit of sense. No, they’re being reverse-matched by SMV to compensate for the man’s underendowment, in an attempt to keep total SMV mathematically constant for each couple. In this ranking system, 12 year olds offer the highest reward and the most social validation (from other creeps, of course, not from society in general).

I don’t understand why incels (Jordan Peterson included) keep insisting so hard on equality of sexual outcome for every single straight man on the planet. Apparently this is the hill they’ve decided to not get laid on.

Ariblester
Ariblester
2 years ago

Buttercup Q. Skullpants wrote on
March 7, 2019 at 9:44 am:

Apparently this is the hill they’ve decided to not get laid on.

I laughed, then pondered the implication that not getting laid is a fate comparable to or worse than death. Which, I mean, to them it is, but…yikes.

Nowherepants
Nowherepants
2 years ago

Poe’s law strike again!

No srsly, obvious TROLL is obvious. Nothing to see here folks….move along.

Hambeast
Hambeast
2 years ago

Warning: TMI ahead

rubiyogi said

Only rarely has anyone complained about too small penis size, but these weren’t average penis sizes but really, super small penises – so small that there were mechanical difficulties that could not be overcome by technique. I myself have never encountered such a penis-haver in such a situation.

I have and I would have taken him over a too-well endowed dude EVERY day of the week!! I won’t get *too* into TMI* here, but he was willing to get me off several times and it was the best fellatio ever for me (no gagging!)

The guy was very good-looking, very respectful, and genuinely nice. So, of course, I never got to see him again because he was at our base (USAF) on temporary duty and returned to his post shortly thereafter.

*The TMI part was the Kama Sutra positions it took to achieve penetration. Luckily, I was young and very flexible back then.

Ariblester
Ariblester
2 years ago

Nowherepants wrote on
March 7, 2019 at 10:48 am:

Poe’s law strike again!

No srsly, obvious TROLL is obvious. Nothing to see here folks….move along.

A guy with 14,000 posts on an incel site that was founded in December 2017 is an obvious troll. Riiiight. 😒

Gaebolga
Gaebolga
2 years ago

@Ariblester

I believe Mr. Pants was speaking of himself…

Nowherepants
Nowherepants
2 years ago

A guy with 14,000 posts on an incel site that was founded in December 2017 is an obvious troll. Riiiight. 😒

How do you know “he” is not a bot? 😛

Also, I think it’s rather naive of you to assume there aren’t trolls on incel sites trying to fuck with these guys as well as trying(albeit quite effectively)to make them look bad. Incels are universally despised. Not just by women, but by other men too.

Do not misinterpret this as a defense of this guy. It is is a dismissal.