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By David Futrelle
In case you missed this horror when it appeared on Reddit last week, here’s an ingenious “solution” for incels oppressed by having non-porn-star sized penises.
Any by “ingenious” I mean “so utterly repulsive it may destroy your last remaining shred of hope for humanity.”
In a post on the Incels.is forums with the seemingly innocuous title “Dick Quotas,” a dude calling himself Mainländer announced what he called “a genius idea to make society and the sexual market fairer.”
Prepare yourself.
We all know being a dicklet sucks and foids will ridicule you for it, and most men want to fuck JBs [jailbaits], so why don’t we make the AoC [Age of Consent] dependent on the guy’s dick size?
[inwardly screaming]
If your cock is 3 inches or less, the AoC is 12 for you.
If your cock is between 3 and 4 inches, the AoC is 13 for you.
If your cock is between 4 and 5 inches, the AoC is 14 for you.
If your cock is between 5 and 6 inches, the AoC is 15 for you.
If your cock is between 6 and 7 inches, the AoC is 16 for you.
If your cock is between 7 and 8 inches, the AoC is 17 for you.
If your cock is 8 inches or more, the AoC is 18 for you.
In addition to everything else that’s fucked-up about this tweet — underage girls aren’t prizes to be given out to men to compensate them for their alleged penile shortcomings — it’s based on a bizarrely pornified notion of what counts as a small dick. The average penis size is between 5 and 6 inches, and most cis men have penises somewhere in or near that range. Only a tiny percentage of men dicks that are 8 inches long or larger. And most women don’t give a shit about dick size. This is just an excuse for Mainländer to fantasize about underage girls.
Everyone wins.
Yeah, everyone except the UNDERAGE GIRLS YOU’LL BE RAPING.
In case you’re wondering, Mainländer isn’t some teenager or drive-by troll. He’s posted more than 14,000 comments on Incels.is, and describes himself as being older than 30. (One commenter in the thread refers to him as a man in his 50s.)
No jokes this time. It really seems like this open pedo shit is becoming more common on Incels.is, with an increasing number of incels convinced not only that they’re oppressed by adult women refusing to have sex with them but also because they can’t have sex with underage girls.
Incel forums are toxic in pretty much every way it’s possible to be toxic. These guys aren’t venting. They aren’t providing support for one another. They’re turning themselves and each other into even worse human beings every day they spend on forums like this. And making themselves ever more miserable and bitter in the process.
H/T — r/IncelTears
I’m sorry that I posted about the whole “obviously a troll” thing, @nowherepants. I didn’t want to pile on. But after I posted, a whole bunch of other posts showed up above mine! Mea culpa.
I mean just adding a “just kidding” or its “trolling” to something doesn’t take away the pain it inflicts. It’s like if someone “pretend” like they were going to hit you to make you flinch and then act like it’s the funniest thing in the world. Not taking into the account the number of times someone might have thrown a punch and not be joking.
OT: Doug Ford is trying to privatize health care in Ontario.
https://act.leadnow.ca/health-care/
1. How do I ensure that it doesn’t happen? (If it does, it will likely kill me eventually.)
2. Whyyyyyy? It seems like Canadian politics is a constant repetition of a) legislators ask “can we do $(awful_thing)?”, b) the people yell NO!, c) maybe they back off, but if they do, after a few months or years they ask again. And again and again and again, until eventually the people give in and let them do it.
What we need is a way to say not “NO!”, but “NEVER!” and then they CAN’T start proposing the same damn thing (cutbacks, privatizations, or whatever) ever again, or at least not for a very long time, or not without first a referendum on whether to even put it back on the table again. And that referendum must get a supermajority for them to do so.
It’s so tiring and requires such constant vigilance. It’s like dealing with a two year old. Turn your back for ten seconds and he’s reaching for the cookie jar (on behalf of giant megacorps). Slap his hand away, start doing something else, and before you know it he’s grabbed for it again and started unscrewing the lid. Slap his hand away and tighten the lid, go to work, come home and find the jar empty. We need to be able to put the jar in a safe that only WE, THE PEOPLE can open. Not our “representatives” but us, directly.
@Scildfreja:
But you explained it very well, and made points the other posts did not make.
I’m not as nice as Scild, so I am going to pile on.
NowherePants,
If you’re trying to troll us, can’t you find a more entertaining way to do it? You were on the right path when you tried to ‘splain vaginal fluids to us. This is a step backwards. Since Contract Jack melted down and got banned so quickly, we need you to step your game up.
If you’re not trying to troll, you really, really need to pull your head out of your ass. After a large state troll operation likely influenced the outcomes of the 2016 US presidential election and the brexit referendum and after Facebook trolls contributed to the genocide of the Rohinga in Burma, are you seriously trying to pull the “ignore the trolls and everything will okay” line? Seriously?
We’ve already had incel mass murderers. We’re already seeing incel views normalized by conservatives with large platforms like Jordan Peterson and Ross Douthot. The last fucking thing we need to do is ignore this shit.
@Surplus
That’s exactly what the right is trying to do, except in reverse.
The entire right wing’s agenda in this generation is tearing away the rights of people who fought tooth and nail in the previous generation.
We got those rights by protest, and not the ‘civil, polite’ kind of protest, which is why the right is pushing their gaslighting and brainwashing so hard. By stripping minorities of the very tools that gave us our rights AND those rights themselves, they hope to turn back the dial on time and snap the dial off forever.
Just found on page 1 what I was missing.
14.000 posts means the board believes the guy to be legimate.
A troll doesn’t survive that long.
And if that stands somewhere whitout resistance means that is acepted in the forum.
In this moment the question if the original poster is a troll is irelevant.
@Jane Done:
The difference being that the majority of the population (at least here) is in favor of keeping universal healthcare, among other things. Only one side of this is the majority having to repeatedly slap representatives of the minority away from the cookie jar they want to raid.
@Surplus
True, though 1%ers are not considered a political minority because they control the vast majority of wealth and power. Minorities, when combined, outnumber those trying to fuck them over, which just might be the most important truth in the coming years.
Off topic, the asshole (probably Trump supporting) judge gave Manafort a slap on the wrist. 47 months for 8 counts. He called him someone who had lived an otherwise blameless life.
This Clarence Darrow speech from 1902 is great but disheartening because nothing changed.
http://www.bopsecrets.org/CF/darrow.htm
So very relevant.
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I’m fucking PISSED. I’m glad Manafort is getting another sentence from a different judge who sees through his bullshit a lot more.
Mainländer (and guys like him) want super young girls because they’re easier to groom and mold into the submissive
victimwaifu of their dreams. After all, if they get their claws in early enough theirvictimwaifu won’t know that being abused isn’t normal.Yuck.
Brain bleach time? Brain bleach time!
(All pictures from the itty bitty kitty committee)
@Pagan Reader – Misandrist Spinster
The logic of his “defenders” escape me. “How can you tell he’s not a bot? It’s impossible to tell the difference on incel.me !” In other words, it’s impossible to tell the difference betweem *real* incels’ view and the alleged parody which advocates mass rape of teenage girls. Some “defense”.
@Who?:
Oh, I totally understand that. I do that stuff too. My comment was supposed to be addressed to Nowherepants, who said the OP was a troll and should just be dismissed. I forgot to indicate that, so sorry to everybody for being unclear!
For some reason, this post dredged up an incident from the 80s I’d all but forgotten about. Does anyone else from the UK or Ireland remember Mandy Smith? She was a teenager back then who married Bill Wyman from the Rolling Stones when she was 16– and it came out that he had been grooming¹ her since she was 13 years old. How Operation Yewtree never came for his skeevy old ass, I’ll never know.
Needless to say, the tabloids had a field day with this– in their usual simultaneous pursed-lipped disapproving way but also in the same victim-blaming, “c’mon, guys, you would, wouldn’t you? I mean, if she looked like that, you would, wink wink” you still see being trotted out against R. Kelly’s accusers even now (or is still the creepy stock-in-trade of rags like the Daily Mail with their endless “she’s all grown up now” articles ?). Of course there’s no rape culture, guys! It’s an SJW delusion! ?
Smith’s and Wyman’s marriage lasted all of two years. She tried to turn some of her tabloid notoriety into a pop career, some of the results of which you can see here (I think this was her debut):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Keu-Ny-bsQ
I just remember the pretty incessant slut-shaming of her that went on at the time (though in my 15-year-old shitlord eyes it was probably a worse crime that she was produced by the Stock, Aitken & Waterman “hit factory” in the UK that was responsible for filling the charts with wretched, soulless assembly-line pop I hate them I hate them I hate the– um, sorry, 15-year-old me still remembers ?) Looking at that video I see a kid barely older than I was, hardly able to carry a tune, so uncomfortable in their own skin they’re barely able to dance, trying desperately to be edgy and grown-up by making veiled references to an inappropriate relationship… it’s downright cringy. Everyone involved bar the woman herself should have been ashamed.
According to her Last.fm profile, she’s still performing; I hope she got a bit more out of life than endless tabloid harassment and being the punchline of shitty jokes about “jailbait”.
¹ Back in the 80s, terms of art like “grooming” weren’t in common use yet, though the practice certainly was. Nor was “sex addiction” which was apparently the excuse Wyman trotted out for why he was carrying on with a bloody teenager in the first place. He was the real victim, you guys! ?
Why stop at the Stones? David Bowie had sex with fifteen-year-olds back in the 1970s. The double standard with regards to men having sex with young girls has always been appallingly one-sided.
I remember a local radio station had a show where the male DJ had a countdown clock for when the Olsen twins became legal. Especially gross when you take into account that they’re petite and young looking and could’ve passed for 13 or 14 at that time.
@Ariblester:
And the dudes from Led Zeppelin, and that’s before we even get to out-and-out repugnant arseholes like Ted Nugent who like to wrap themselves in the flag nowadays but who explicitly liked to brag in their songs about raping¹ the underaged back then. But, yeah, a lot of people have gone on the record as being seriously uncomfortable with the speed at which Bowie’s crimes in this area were overlooked in the rush to dub him Greatest Rock ‘n’ Roll Innovator Evar in the wake of his death. I mean, sure, I like his music too, but he did and said a lot of shitty things in the 70s.
The unusual thing about Mandy Smith’s case that probably brought it to my mind was that the whole affair was carried out in the full spectacle of a tabloid feeding-frenzy at the time and Smith herself became a (minor) celebrity when very often the victims are only encouraged to speak long after the fact, and then only anonymously, and are quickly forgotten. People are quick to trot out the “it was a different time” line and it’s true; but for all that things have changed, some things– the excuse-making, the victim-blaming, the slut-shaming– don’t.
(Aside: one other thing I noticed watching that Mandy Smith video now that would have passed me by then because I would have lacked the cultural references: while her look is in some ways quintessentially “80s”, some parts of it– the big, tousled blonde hair, the eye make-up, the lips– make me think her stylists were trying to cash in on her resemblance to Brigitte Bardot. Who would have meant absolutely nothing to her contemporaries– and ostensible target demographic– like me; but for a certain, shall we say, older cohort of men, Bardot was the ultimate in smouldering, no-holds-barred, sex on a stick. Men in the same age group as Smith’s former husband, for example. If that was a conscious decision on Smith’s stylists’ part, to make her appeal to older men, then eww. Double fucking eww.?)
¹ A minor can’t consent, Ted. Which part of “statutory rape” don’t you understand?
@wwth:
I remember there was similar shit too around the time Emma Watson turned 16, and with the singer Charlotte Church in the UK. Church, who got famous around the age of 8 or 9 for releasing an album of religious songs entitled Voice of an Angel had to deal with a double dose of tabloid nonsense. This was because not only had she to go through puberty in public and the usual aforementioned leery British tabloid, “isn’t she all grown up now, eh, lads?” stuff¹², but every time she was photographed doing normal adolescent things like smoking a cigarette or falling out of a nightclub the worse for wear, she had to deal with “ZOMG NOT AN ANGEL!!!1!” headlines too ?. Still, she turned out alright, she still performs, and she writes a fairly incendiary (albeit infrequently-updated) blog on social justice issues. Example.
¹ Which culminated in one particular incident where one tabloid was simultaneously frothing about a special episode of a satirical comedy programme, Brass Eye, which was mocking media coverage of pedophiles, while right beside it the tabloid had a picture of the then 15yo Church in a tight top with the usual creepy “all grown up” caption… ?
² There were even rumours that some of the tabloids had a “bounty” on her virginity with a large sum of money on offer to whichever cad did the deed and told the tale. Yes, really. Given the shit that came out of the Leveson inquiry, I wouldn’t be surprised if this were true. Also, I have to throw up now ?.
@ Cat Mara
Thank you for the Charlotte Church link. She fell off my radar when she went crossover (I am a classical music hipster), and thus I had not come across the magnificent phrase “like the Tories wouldn’t have made even more of a Jackson Pollock of it.”
@Tovius
Bless
@Rabid Rabbit: As someone whose music tastes run to the goth/industrial end of things, I never much appreciated Charlotte Church’s work in either phase of her career tbh. The quality of her voice is something else, though; she could probably record an album of jingles from ads and make it sound good. And she comes across as a very warm, level-headed and passionate person in interviews despite (or maybe because) of the tabloid hate machine she’s been through.
Good interview with Church in the New Statesman from 2016.
Ew, talk about not understanding how consent works at all, or understanding why the age of consent is necessary in the first place. There should be some sort of mandatory consent talk in grade school. Plus, what exactly makes them think underage teens would want them either since grown women apparently don’t?